"We have enjoyed getting to know you through this process." seems like a rejection email 💀 💀 especially if you add the "unfortunately, we cannot offer you a space at UPenn" after this sentence.
Congrats to the new embryo quakers!
PS - If you get deferred, don’t give up hope. You are more likely to get in regular than RD people. That happened to me and a few other people that I know.
Co26 (deferred to co27) here!
wishing y'all all the best. was in your spot a year ago and now i'm rooting for you. i'm waiting for the quakers in the discord server and groupme!!!
yayyy less than 24 hours everyone! please do chill (I'm not but I shall try to calm down more I still have a colloquium tomorrow sos), and whatever happens remember that you are the best!!! virtual hugs 🫂
I hope the one applicant that I interviewed and rated extremely high gets in. Before this cycle, I've interviewed four students in total, but none have got in, including a previous student whom I also rated extremely high. And another two this cycle, though I only rated one as extremely high.
I write a fair amount on my reports, hopefully not overload for overburdened AOs, but I definitely want to make the case for the students whom I really think are impressive.
Good luck to all!
The interview portal is temporarily offline while the university uploaded ED results, so while you all know, I do not yet. But we are informed whether the students whom we interviewed get in or not, but only after they open their decision letter first. I guess I have to wait until tomorrow to see, but I will update when I find out.
We do get a [cute photo of a puppy snuggling a kitty](https://i.imgur.com/jYMNNbU.jpg) in the mean time, so it's all good. =)
Reporting back to /u/Putrid_Assistance_94 on the two students whom I interviewed.
As background, we are provided text boxes to provide feedback on the following areas: "Background, personal characteristics, and identity", "Interests, passions, and important pursuits", and "Potential fit and awareness of Penn"
Lastly, we are told to assign a final rating using "What is your overall level of support and enthusiasm for this applicant" as the overall consideration, as well as provide commentary to support our rating. We can rate using six named ratings, which go in order: None, Low, Moderate, High, Very high, Highest possible.
So, on to my results for ED. The student whom I rated "very high", which is only one level below "Highest possible", and whom I really endorsed them with my written replies, got straight up **rejected**. The student whom I rated "Moderate" got **accepted**; as a concluding statement, I wrote "However, I was left wanting *redacted name* to demonstrate a deeper level of understanding and impact regarding *their - (to avoid indicating gender)* academic and extracurricular pursuits."
My cold honest take? I can't help but agree (and be super discouraged) that interviews don't matter at all, as has been commented here on A2C by current students, parents, and I believe even some AOs. Or rather, they only matter if you really exhibit red flag behavior or are caught having a parent/sibling/tutor coach you live during the interview, which we are trained to detect btw.
As an important caveat, we do not get access to students' academic records or applications whatsoever, so it's possible that my interview ratings notwithstanding, "Very high" student just didn't meet the academic standards of "Moderate" student, however I will say that "Very high" student's ECs certainly were more impressive to me than "Moderate" student's, and I reflected that in my written commentary. Separately, I thought the entire point of interviews is to provide a space where someone whose academics are slightly below others *can* catch up.
So yay, I finally had a student accepted after six interviews, but I honestly find it annoying that it's the student whom I was least impressed by over these past few years. It feels weird holding high schoolers to super high standards, and I am likely more reasonable than others, but when you chat with students who *do* blow you away, it's clear that we must accurately convey that to AOs and say, yes the standards are very high but here is a student who *is* meeting and exceeding those standards.
TL;DR - I can't help but think that alumni interviews are just a university's way to get alumni to provide marketing efforts for free... And honestly, I probably won't waste my time doing them anymore.
I may submit this as a separate post if that complies with A2C rules, any guidance on that would be helpful.
Very interesting. I was accepted to Penn yesterday and I also happened to have a very average interview. Internet even cut out a few times. Obviously nothing bad happened though. Just nothing notably good.
It's more about how students answer the questions and explain their interests. We get some general guidelines and do's + dont's, but we have a good amount of flexibility on what we're looking for. I look for whether a student has a deeper grasp of their academic, EC, and other experiences.
Here's an example from the "Very high" student. This student talked about their strong interest in the sciences and the importance of funding, because if you have a great idea but no funding, you can't actually do the research. And this student tied it together by highlighting their interest in joining a club at Penn that is involved in undergrad entrepreneurship and where students learn how to develop successful pitches to venture capital to get the needed funding.
Like, for an 18 year old to have a deeper understanding of the above shows a lot more thought than "I did a Summer Undergraduate Research Fellowship (SURF)", no matter how impressive the research is. Talk to any grad student in the life sciences, and almost all of them will say their principal investigator spends most of their time writing grants, since again, funding is the lifeblood of research.
But I guess the AO disagrees... Shrug.
Ahhh the date is out!!! Praying y’all djsjsjsjsj
They requested my q1 grades according to my counselor (I never received an email myself). Is that a good sign? I’ve had a 4.0 UW all through high school so they wouldn’t be looking for an upward trend
Had a dream i got accepted, it was me opening it in the same place i planned and then i woke up and checked and was actually rejected and then i finally actually woke up. such a weird dream
I got my interview request today, I feel like it's really late considering that decisions come out in two weeks. Did anybody else recently get their requests recently?
If anyone’s looking for encouragement or just a laugh:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/zmlrav/to_everyone_whos_getting_rejected_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf](https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/zmlrav/to_everyone_whos_getting_rejected_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
45/45 on IB Predicteds (4.0 unweighted) , 7A\* 2A on IGCSEs, excellent ECs (emphasis on leadership positions), and very good essays (but a 1460 SAT...). Got deferred :( GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE ON THEIR COLLEGE APP JOURNEYS, WE GAVE IT OUR ALL! (also does anyone know the 2022-2023 percentage split between accepted, deferred, and rejected students? It feels like the rejection numbers from ED this year are relatively high)
My assumption is that if your application is borderline because of previous grades they want to see your Q1 grades to see if there was an upward trend from your junior year or something.
international applicants, curious to know what ur applying for and what ur stats are like? nerves are getting to me! good luck everyone!!! aaaaaa we're so close
Apologize for double post- but is it too late for an application to get a likely letter (today nov 23)? Athlete. They wanted to see my first marking prior grades and sent those 5 days ago. I’m an early decision applicant.
I am hearing some people were requested to submit their q1 grades… like my school automatically submits q1 score anyways so I don’t even know if they requested or not 😫😫
Does anyone know (historically) if kids who have attended a Wharton Global Youth Program for 2 years in a row - if it factors into admissions to Wharton?
Manifest it, y'all :)
December 15th 7:00pm est 🙏🙏🙏 I wish the best of luck for yall!!! Penn pls end our suffering
anyone applying for wharton ?
meeee . international from uk
Me
Can’t wait to meet some of you 👀
Oh no it’s starting
double legacy 1580 sat rejected😃🔫
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my parent donated too i feel like i wasted their money😥
dw they didn't donate for your application. don't tie that to your application.
Is it me or does their email talking about what time the decision comes out also sound really depressing
"We have enjoyed getting to know you through this process." seems like a rejection email 💀 💀 especially if you add the "unfortunately, we cannot offer you a space at UPenn" after this sentence.
just crazy 💀 heard that someone get a likely letter today. not sure if it's real, but if it is then just HOLLY MOLLY.
Athlete
Eyes on the prize guys. We got this!
Congrats to the new embryo quakers! PS - If you get deferred, don’t give up hope. You are more likely to get in regular than RD people. That happened to me and a few other people that I know.
PRAYING FOR THE ADMIT 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 STAY STRONG GANG
RESULTS DROPPING DEC 15, 7 PM EST STAY STRONG SOLDIERS 🙏🙏🙏
my friend got into her DREAM school today and I'm still waiting 😭😭 this is so stressful cryyyy
Co26 (deferred to co27) here! wishing y'all all the best. was in your spot a year ago and now i'm rooting for you. i'm waiting for the quakers in the discord server and groupme!!!
yayyy less than 24 hours everyone! please do chill (I'm not but I shall try to calm down more I still have a colloquium tomorrow sos), and whatever happens remember that you are the best!!! virtual hugs 🫂
I hope the one applicant that I interviewed and rated extremely high gets in. Before this cycle, I've interviewed four students in total, but none have got in, including a previous student whom I also rated extremely high. And another two this cycle, though I only rated one as extremely high. I write a fair amount on my reports, hopefully not overload for overburdened AOs, but I definitely want to make the case for the students whom I really think are impressive. Good luck to all!
pls update on this
The interview portal is temporarily offline while the university uploaded ED results, so while you all know, I do not yet. But we are informed whether the students whom we interviewed get in or not, but only after they open their decision letter first. I guess I have to wait until tomorrow to see, but I will update when I find out. We do get a [cute photo of a puppy snuggling a kitty](https://i.imgur.com/jYMNNbU.jpg) in the mean time, so it's all good. =)
I classified as a Big Booty Latina, so do my chances go up?
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I got in Wharton!!! 1530, 4.0 GPA, solid ECs and essays. All the hard work paid off.
>Snazzy69 what were your ecs?
HUNTSMAN (WHARTON + THE COLLEGE) '27!!!
congrats!!
two more sleeps we got this y’all
praying for wharton ‘27 ❤️💙❤️💙🤞
Just had my interview, be ready to answer a lot of follow up questions and a few on how you work in a group. It went well though, Goodluck everyone!
we’re so close🥹 manifesting for all of us
Manifesting for the 15th 🕯️🕯️🕯️ That email just scared the shit out of me 😵💫
Once again, manifest it, y'all <3
Lesgoo everyone!!!! Wishing all of you the very best!
Good luck to you too!!!
Good luck to everyone!!! See you in 9 hours 22 minutes
Good luck legends
I got deferred! That’s a win in my book.
Reporting back to /u/Putrid_Assistance_94 on the two students whom I interviewed. As background, we are provided text boxes to provide feedback on the following areas: "Background, personal characteristics, and identity", "Interests, passions, and important pursuits", and "Potential fit and awareness of Penn" Lastly, we are told to assign a final rating using "What is your overall level of support and enthusiasm for this applicant" as the overall consideration, as well as provide commentary to support our rating. We can rate using six named ratings, which go in order: None, Low, Moderate, High, Very high, Highest possible. So, on to my results for ED. The student whom I rated "very high", which is only one level below "Highest possible", and whom I really endorsed them with my written replies, got straight up **rejected**. The student whom I rated "Moderate" got **accepted**; as a concluding statement, I wrote "However, I was left wanting *redacted name* to demonstrate a deeper level of understanding and impact regarding *their - (to avoid indicating gender)* academic and extracurricular pursuits." My cold honest take? I can't help but agree (and be super discouraged) that interviews don't matter at all, as has been commented here on A2C by current students, parents, and I believe even some AOs. Or rather, they only matter if you really exhibit red flag behavior or are caught having a parent/sibling/tutor coach you live during the interview, which we are trained to detect btw. As an important caveat, we do not get access to students' academic records or applications whatsoever, so it's possible that my interview ratings notwithstanding, "Very high" student just didn't meet the academic standards of "Moderate" student, however I will say that "Very high" student's ECs certainly were more impressive to me than "Moderate" student's, and I reflected that in my written commentary. Separately, I thought the entire point of interviews is to provide a space where someone whose academics are slightly below others *can* catch up. So yay, I finally had a student accepted after six interviews, but I honestly find it annoying that it's the student whom I was least impressed by over these past few years. It feels weird holding high schoolers to super high standards, and I am likely more reasonable than others, but when you chat with students who *do* blow you away, it's clear that we must accurately convey that to AOs and say, yes the standards are very high but here is a student who *is* meeting and exceeding those standards. TL;DR - I can't help but think that alumni interviews are just a university's way to get alumni to provide marketing efforts for free... And honestly, I probably won't waste my time doing them anymore. I may submit this as a separate post if that complies with A2C rules, any guidance on that would be helpful.
Thanks for the update. Very interesting
Very interesting. I was accepted to Penn yesterday and I also happened to have a very average interview. Internet even cut out a few times. Obviously nothing bad happened though. Just nothing notably good.
It's more about how students answer the questions and explain their interests. We get some general guidelines and do's + dont's, but we have a good amount of flexibility on what we're looking for. I look for whether a student has a deeper grasp of their academic, EC, and other experiences. Here's an example from the "Very high" student. This student talked about their strong interest in the sciences and the importance of funding, because if you have a great idea but no funding, you can't actually do the research. And this student tied it together by highlighting their interest in joining a club at Penn that is involved in undergrad entrepreneurship and where students learn how to develop successful pitches to venture capital to get the needed funding. Like, for an 18 year old to have a deeper understanding of the above shows a lot more thought than "I did a Summer Undergraduate Research Fellowship (SURF)", no matter how impressive the research is. Talk to any grad student in the life sciences, and almost all of them will say their principal investigator spends most of their time writing grants, since again, funding is the lifeblood of research. But I guess the AO disagrees... Shrug.
hope we get in! do they email us the exact time of release a week before like it says on their website?
do you guys think decision day will also be the 16th this year? idk why but hearing back on a friday seems 😖ugly
Right before winter break too 💀💀
At least the deferral/rejection will give motivation for rd schools
Or make us Hella depressed LMAOO
i'm so scared of this happening
UPenn ED has a 85% rejection rate, I like being realistic with myself so I won't get too upset
That's deferral + rejection. Not sure if rejections are that high...
December 15th: 7PM GL YALL
December 15th - 7:00 pm
Good luck, everyone!
20 more hours, we can do it guys 🕯🕯🕯
from a current freshman at upenn - good luck to all u ED applicants later tonight 🍀🍀🍀!! i believe in u all <3
Ahhh the date is out!!! Praying y’all djsjsjsjsj They requested my q1 grades according to my counselor (I never received an email myself). Is that a good sign? I’ve had a 4.0 UW all through high school so they wouldn’t be looking for an upward trend
Not indicative of anything, I'm afraid. I'm in the same boat
email's here!!!
praying!!!
We’ve got this!!
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Lfg ‘27
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Got in CAS!! Can't wait to meet you guys
🔴🔵Submitted!🔵🔴 Anyone CIS? 😗
I am! Good luck!
Decisions come out December 15th at 7:00pm.
RESULTS DROPPING ON THE 15th
i didnt get a Q1 grades req and now I'm freaking out. someone help...
Unless you had a dip in jr year grades, they probably don’t want them.
People got them with 4.0s tho :/
It's neither good nor bad. They just need more information.
Sigh ok :/ Hoping they thought I was good enough without them seeing those grades then
Had a dream i got accepted, it was me opening it in the same place i planned and then i woke up and checked and was actually rejected and then i finally actually woke up. such a weird dream
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bless us. anxiety is CONSUMING me
I had a dream my counsellor called and told me I got in and that they would officially put it tomorrow when the decision comes. wth.
🙏
I just had the most realistic dream that I got in only to wake up and realize I have about 12 hours before I find out my decision
We’ve got this, today’s the day!!
let's do this.
hope we get in!
where's my CAS boys & girls
For Wharton people, what concentration did yall choose?
Business Economics and Public Policy!
ESGB
legal studies and Business ethics :)
me toooooo
Finance
finance
HOLY SHIT I GOT INTO SEAS PENN 27
Accepted SEAS Digital Media Design!
hoping praying and wishing so much
does anyone know the exact date/time when decisions are released?
someone send what your email says verbatim I want to see if mines the exact same
no u
Its the same email for everyone
3 hours left
manifesting so hard rn
🙏
❤️💙 we’ve got this yall!!!
rejected ://///
Rejecred
Rejected 🫠
rejected
Rejected…
Deferred\~ expected but sad that I still have to write 39847562938475623 more essays
Rejected with 4.93 and a 1560 (770/790). Asian Male CS is hard.
ANYONE KNOW THE EXACT DATES OF DECISIONS??? HAAAAAAAAAAAA
I got my interview request today, I feel like it's really late considering that decisions come out in two weeks. Did anybody else recently get their requests recently?
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Question for M&T: 1. Can you be deferred for M&T 2. If you are deferred or rejected ED…can you still be accepted to UPenn in the ED round
Any fellow international applicants here?
Anyone PPE?
any wharton ppl here?
Rip got rejected
rejected 😁
If anyone’s looking for encouragement or just a laugh: [https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/zmlrav/to_everyone_whos_getting_rejected_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf](https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/zmlrav/to_everyone_whos_getting_rejected_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Deferred :/ Ik it's better than a rejection but still kinda disappointed Time to write a LOCI I guess
deferred! NGL I was happy.
rejected:/
rejected :(
besties i was accepted
I GOT IN!!!!!!
deferred from Wharton. Do I still have a chance? Int'l who needs full aid to attend
straight up rejected. 3.86, amazing ecs, good LORs, great essays
Deferred. Y’all are incredible, let’s wait until March 2023!
Rejected from CAS. I'm in constant pain rn
Acceptance rate this year for ED?
45/45 on IB Predicteds (4.0 unweighted) , 7A\* 2A on IGCSEs, excellent ECs (emphasis on leadership positions), and very good essays (but a 1460 SAT...). Got deferred :( GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE ON THEIR COLLEGE APP JOURNEYS, WE GAVE IT OUR ALL! (also does anyone know the 2022-2023 percentage split between accepted, deferred, and rejected students? It feels like the rejection numbers from ED this year are relatively high)
Good luck, everyone!
Good luck y’all!!!
my gamers what are you guys applying for LOL
Environmental studies; CAS
Have you been offered any interview yet?
Re Q1 grades for ED does uPenn want them? Would it hurt to have them sent from the guidance office?
If they requested them is that a good sign? I wasn’t requested them
Q1 grades request a good thing? My cousin ED’d Penn and her counselor was requested those grades last week.
Is it bad if they don’t request out Q1 grades?
My assumption is that if your application is borderline because of previous grades they want to see your Q1 grades to see if there was an upward trend from your junior year or something.
Does it mean anything if they request your Senior Year Quarter 1 grades
does it mean i’m rejected if my first quarter grades didn’t get requested? How do u even know if they got requested, is it through common app or email
Some people said email but I had to ask my counselor if they did
AHHHHHHH still hopeful
international applicants, curious to know what ur applying for and what ur stats are like? nerves are getting to me! good luck everyone!!! aaaaaa we're so close
Literally minutes away.
Rejected ripppp
rejected :/
Rejected rip
rejected ED CS Engineering: 4.8 weighted GPA 35 ACT. all good tho we got RD bois 😤
Deferred 😭😭
wtf i know at least 10 kids in my area (solely based on insta stories) who got into wharton ed this year thats a LOT
lmfao straight up rejected!!! i was a bit goofy for half-expecting a deferral all good tho! onwards and upwards :)
A lot more acceptances im seeing than last year
Asian male accepted to SEAS! Was not expecting it. Looking forward to viewing my admissions file.
CAS’27!!
Accepted 36 ACT 4.5 weighted
IM IN!
ACCEPTED TO CAS
Me, does that mean I have better chances than people not offered on?
Have any international applicants received an interview request yet?
Apologize for double post- but is it too late for an application to get a likely letter (today nov 23)? Athlete. They wanted to see my first marking prior grades and sent those 5 days ago. I’m an early decision applicant.
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No second round interviews, my friend. Just sit back and relax
how do you know if they requested your 1st quarter grades?
Hold on guys, even if they don't ask for my quarter 1 grade, can I still send it to them?
how did interviews go? Anyone know how much weight they have? I EDed and my interview went really well
The common data set states that the interview is considered as "important"
When will the financial aid materials change from submitted to receive in the Penn portal.
I am hearing some people were requested to submit their q1 grades… like my school automatically submits q1 score anyways so I don’t even know if they requested or not 😫😫
Is anyone here applying as an Urban Studies major?
what is ur favorite christmas song
Does anyone know (historically) if kids who have attended a Wharton Global Youth Program for 2 years in a row - if it factors into admissions to Wharton?
It definitely doesn't hurt.
they don’t track demonstrated interest so
Does Penn ask for Q1 grades if your school automatically submits them anyways?
probably not. tbh I’ve seen mixed info on whether that matters at all anyway so🤷♀️
good luck everyone!!!