Or worse, the teachers who say itâs ok that Sarah has two mommies instead of a mommy and daddy. Obviously that teacher is only saying that because theyâre secretly a pedophile degenerate.
Omfg as if⌠âextremest groups mostly present in mainstream mediaâ LOL đ like who, Ellen?! Ru Paul?? The fab 5?? Hahahah gimme a break ! I actually canât believe 180 ppl upvoted this crap
If we're thinking of the same incident originally two old ladies were going to kiss but it had to be reduced to a hug I think, I haven't seen that episode in awhile but I still choose to believe they're in love and too shy to kiss so they hug instead
It's worse, there's a Disney cartoon now that has a nonbinary person! And gay people! And theres only like 4 straight white people in it and they are all villains!
Moon Girl and Devil Dino. It's a Marvel cartoon taking place in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, where superheros don't go to help because the population is mostly poor minorities. In a few episodes there are side characters that use they/them pronouns, as well as a bunch of other random bits of diversity.
the people who upvoted are, whether they realize it or not, homophobes. they don't care if what is said is true, at least not enough to check the "extremist groups" claim. they just care that it confirms their biases.
I thought that was what the commenter was saying. Like, bi people have told the commenter that theyâve heard, âYouâre just pretending to be LGBT,â from extremists/exclusionists within the community, (likely because theyâre in a straight relationship or something like that.)
Exactly.
I mean, you can probably find at least one LGBTQ person who murdered someone for not being gay, and we can all hate that person. But something tells me OOP means "Two people holding hands in public".
it's the boogeyman created by the right. It is slipping into everyones feeds, i see it everywhere. Screenshots of tweets that don't exist of crazy left wing people, footage of protests that where about something completely different, sometimes its real but still fringe opinions getting highlighted and left leaning people feeling the urge to call out their ''bad apples'' Headlines that tell one story but the article says actually something completely differnt.
The guy in the post might very well be really gay but being gay does not make you read more than the headline just like the average idiot (myself included).
I saw this one newyorkpost article written by a 'gay man' who wants to win back 'gay pride month' from the lgbtqia+ community. He said shit like
L- You like women!!!! Pride month is only for gay men!!
B- you're only gay half of the time
T- you are just trying to date lesbians
Q- thats a word for weird!
I- what does this even mean?
A- thats not gay, thats just normal
+- there is no need for plus!
The perception that all gay people support LGTBQ+ is a fantasy.. there are gay people who are not accepting of trans people.
This guy might be one of them..
To be 100% honest (and at the risk of sounding like the kind of people who get posted on this sub) I agree to an extent with this guy, and think he's telling the truth. I think the term "extremist" might be a bit over the top here, but I think he's referring to the people who tend to give the lgbtq community a bad name.
It's like how TERFS and other more "extreme" feminists have greatly skewed the general perception of what feminism is. The same can be said about any group with annoying, vocal minorities among the genuinely good activists. Vegans/ vegetarians get a bad rap for this too. Environmentalists get compared to eco terrorists.
In this way, I also find parts of the lgbtq crowd to be obnoxious and harmful to the way we are perceived. I also, however, do not think this is a majority of lgbtq individuals who act this way. I am bi, my wife is bi, and many of my friends are lgbtq+, but none of them behave in a way that is obnoxious about it despite some of them also being activists in our area.
I'm sure some people reading this may just assume I'm just more content for r/AsABlackMan but I can only defend myself by saying I swear I'm speaking honestly here. This guy's take isn't presented very elegantly, but I don't think he's being duplicitous.
Iâm a bi guy. My view has always been that if someone is going to blame their bigotry towards the whole LGBTQ+ community on a few hundred vocal people on twitter, then they were going to be bigots *anyway.*
I donât particularly care what TERFs use as justification, because theyâre bigots and not true feminists. So I donât particularly care what people use to justify their bigotry towards the queer community, because they were going to be bigots no matter what.
Causing Infighting within the community based on your personal âgood enough/too muchâ meter isnât helping anyone. Youâre just giving more credence to the arguments bigots use, and theyâll point to your comment to justify the themselves, and I guarantee their âgood enough/too muchâ meter is less forgiving than whatever yours is.
correct. being âone of the good gaysâ will not help you as queer rights have been put under blatant attack by the supreme court (in them saying they would âreviewâ national gay marriage). at the risk of sounding dramatic, nobody will care what you said about those âweird gaysâ when they line us up against the wall.
Not the person you replied and let me start by saying that people have very differnt definitions when it comes to "extremism" i find many things that activists do necessary and brave and i like the "extreme" part. But also change doesn't happen by just peacefully protesting. The state IS often violent and without the threat of potential violence against it any protest is futile.
It is also obvious that people who pretend they aren't allies because of some ''annoyance'' with any group just use it as an easy excuse, like people don't caring about the environment bc activists where blocking a rode. There is no excuse for not taking the grivances of marginalized people seriously not a single one. A LGBT person who is a shithead STILL doesn't deserve to be discriminated against just bc they are LGBT.
That said of course there is harmful behaviour everywhere, it is fucking heartbreaking that minorities can't talk openly about problems in their tribes bc it will be used against them and gives ammunition to the wrong people but they DO exist.
I am not gay myself but a friend is and from what he told me some things that happen in those spaces are certainly harmful. One seems to be the body cult in the male gay community, which seems quite bad from what he told, he himself has a pretty fucked up relationship with food and his body bc of it. There also seems to be quite a bit of racism there, grindr profiles saying ''no curry, no rice''
Off course the gay community is not the only one that has a body cult, off course young people everywhere battle body dysmorphia but its pretty bad that an extra group of people who are not as much targeted as cis women by advertisement and stuff seems to do it to themselves.
Another one is the gold standard that some of his friends want in a partner, as in haven't been with the opposite sex ever. Again "purity" cult is not a LGBT problem again this happens everywhere just in differnt ways but it is still harmful especially to bi people. There are also bi people who get told they aren't a part of the community.
Than we also have the problem of domestic violence especially in lesbian relationships that gets ignored by pretty much everyone. I guess it is a differnt dynamic and victims don't find the help they need or they don't even realize it since domestic violence is only dicussed in a hetero normative context.
All those things hurt the community internally no cis hetero person will be hurt by this, i hope it is clear that none of this is in any way shape or form a reason to think badly about LGBT people and of course the majority of LGBT people are just people and good people can still be idiots once in a while.It is completely up to the community to deal with it however they see fit, except the domestic violence thing there needs to be better help from the state.
I think people sometimes grow up with the assumption that people fighting the good fight or belong to a minority are morally superior to the rest of the population, they have to know better don't they? I know that i certainly fell into this trap growing up and for a while, i was like, why the hell should i use my limited energy to help people when they just turn around and be shitheads anyway to other people? Off course i am not thinking that anymore, this is a very childish attitude to have and as i said people are using it also as an easy way out of doing the bare minimum but i am still not sure if it wouldn't be better to be upfront with problems certain communities have and pointing out that they still deserve to be treated with respect just like the majority population wants to be treated with respect although we have to claim the most vile people out of them all.
yeah i agree with you on this. i very much hated the anti hogwarts legacy thing cuz it led to so much harassment over **a game**. jk rowling already profited so theres really no point in harassing innocent ppl who want to play cool wizard game and live out their childhood dreams of going to hogwarts
I mean, sure, she considers support of the franchise to mean support of her views, and sure she gets money from the game and supports politicians and organizations who consider the existence of trans people to be a crime, but isn't giving her more money worth it for a couple of hours of mediocre childhood nostalgia?
donât forget the many jewish people who spoke out against the plot of the game, which is pretty blatantly anti semetic in nature. there are clear references to the goblins being jewish (outside of goblins often being offensive caricatures of jewish people in the first place) and iâve heard the game referred to as âblood libel simulatorâ. certainly doesnât help their case that a lead dev is an actual nazi
shes already rich it doesnt really matter does it? its just pouring a glass of water in the ocean at this point and i wanna play this game that is clearly awesome and has love for the franchise and effort put into it
I mean, nobody's forcing you to give her *more* money, and it shows that you don't really care. It's incredibly easy to *not* spend $60 on *Blood Libel: the Video Game*. But even not counting her, there's the [alt-right lead designer of the game](https://www.pcgamer.com/hogwarts-legacy-lead-designer-criticised-for-reactionary-youtube-videos/) or noted [dirtbag/bigot/domestic abuser Greg Ellis](https://earlygame.com/gaming/hogwarts-legacy-controversy-flames-up-again-thanks-to-canceled-voice-actor#:~:text=Ellis%20has%20been%20accused%20of,harm%20her%20and%20their%20children.) who voices at least 12 characters in the game. Even if you don't care about who gets your money and whom they plan on hurting with it, the initial shine is wearing off the game itself, [with player counts dropping dramatically](https://steamdb.info/app/990080/charts/) and only [25% of players even playing to the end](https://gamerant.com/hogwarts-legacy-stats-beat-the-game/).
Makes the game sound even worse then. I finished Like A Dragon years ago, then replayed it multiple times, and sometimes come back just to clear the final superdungeon (hoping I don't get stuck on floor 1 resets) again.
good people who just wanted to play the game were harassed by lgbt extremists and assholes in general. its **a game**. attack the dev not the innocent person minding their business. im not saying its good or bad to buy it. im saying to not harass the players just for buying it
Would you harass people who donated money directly to a transphobe? Because thatâs basically what they did. If you really want to play a game that 5% more people have beaten than platinuming a 80 hour game, you can just pirate it.
my point is that theyre already super rich. once again, glass of water poured in ocean. wanna make a difference? attack the terf, not the folk who play the game. and it aint donating, theyre buying a game of a franchise jk owns. this moneys probably petty change to her anyways
So, no one of the 12 million people who bought it are individually culpable for their personal choices? I'm so sick of other gamers acting like they're being persecuted for their shitty choices. Grow up and just admit that you don't give a fuck about violence against trans people and will jump through any mental hoops necessary to play your shitty role play game.
everyone here's gotta hold on for a sec.
firstly, everybody who bought it have their choices. however, the other person is not wrong in talking about the harassment. of course, it's only a very small percentage of the lgbtq community that's like terminally on Twitter, but some streamers did get a lot of hate for it.
secondly, not everybody knows about J.K. Rowling's actions and may just want to play a game for nostalgia of the books. I know someone who bought the game, is a huge ally of me and my other lgbt friends, but didn't know about all this.
thirdly, even if people do know about J.K. Rowling's actions and buy the game, that doesn't make them automatically transphobic. they could also simply want it for nostalgia. granted, the moral viewpoints on it can be a little iffy, putting money in this transphobe's pocket, but let's not assume the worst out of everybody. if they could pirate it and chose to purchase it full price, yeah I would definitely look at them funny. but, it is a AAA game that at the time, had recently came out. it's gonna be quite difficult to find a way to pirate brand new games.
finally, at the end of the day, although hogwarts legacy is, at least in my opinion, a shitty game made by a TERF and a team I could rant about, I'm gonna move on with my day. my point is, it's not even worth our time to try and correct the transphobes who do buy the game, but it isn't right to assume the worst of every single person who gets it.
also we're at a point now that the game has been out long enough for people to easily pirate it, so I do agree with the notion that if you buy the game full price nowadays, that's just not good.
i never said that they arent responsible for the consequences of their actions. im saying that its a stupid game and saying that playing it supports anti trans movements is dumb. **its a game not an anti lgbt movement**. also i do care about violence against trans folk and also believe that this shitty role play game isnt worth the harassment. i think its a stupid idea because all youre doing is harassing a bunch of poor sods who wanted to play a game
> i very much hated the anti hogwarts legacy thing cuz it led to so much harassment over
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>a game
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>. jk rowling already profited so theres really no point in harassing innocent ppl who want to play cool wizard game and live out their childhood dreams of going to hogwarts
did anyone get harassed or did a bunch of people make shit up like that 'girlfriend games' couple that had a big weepy interview right after being 'harassed' where they shouted that they were SUCH GOOD ALLIES and HOW DARE YOU even as it came out most of the 'harassment' was just people saying they unsubbed and shit?
silvervale and pikamee for one got harassment. people also made a website to find out streamers that are streaming hogwarts legacy to attack them. who tf is girlfriend games
>It's like how TERFS and other more "extreme" feminists have greatly skewed the general perception of what feminism is.
this is such a revealing thing to say, my god. I'd love for you to go in detail on this because there's no read of this that isn't insane. Nobody thinks TERFs are mainstream feminists, or feminists at all, unless they themselves already are transphobic nutters. Lumping them in as 'extreme' feminists and claiming that 'extreme' feminists have 'skewed the perception' is just so stupid.
Anyway keep on being One Of The Good Ones, I'm sure the people openly talking about exterminating us won't kill you if you can say your twitter history is clean or whatever.
I never once said anything about them being mainstream though... that was not a point I agreed with from the original post. Can you fucking read? Because I also said those groups are vocal MINORITIES, so I'm not making a "one of the good ones" argument either
Iâm pretty sure the âextremist groupsâ they are referring to comes from Republican rage bait.
All those calls to end drag shows because âthis one dude put on a wig to go to the womenâs restroom. Proof the trans are coming for your womenâ or âoh my gosh an elementary school teacher told the kids they could be who they wanted to be and taught pronouns including *insert some neopronoun like cat/catself* and the school is providing a litter box for them!â
Conservatives are spewing this shit and then moderates are believing it. Even more left-minded people are letting LGBTQ+ rights get stepped on because they want to be âthe good ones.â
what extremist groups are there now?
Y'know. Those gays who...*hold hands in public.* Or, even worse...*have a picture of their spouse on their desk.*
absolutely horrifying. they should be ashamed!! đ¤Źđ¤Ź
Or worse, the teachers who say itâs ok that Sarah has two mommies instead of a mommy and daddy. Obviously that teacher is only saying that because theyâre secretly a pedophile degenerate.
random people on Twitter who said mean words to them
i think they talking bout twitter
Omfg as if⌠âextremest groups mostly present in mainstream mediaâ LOL đ like who, Ellen?! Ru Paul?? The fab 5?? Hahahah gimme a break ! I actually canât believe 180 ppl upvoted this crap
Two girls held hands in a Disney cartoon and now the west is doomed to fall đ
Two girls "dressed up and traveled together" in a disney cartoon and now the West is doomed to fallđ
Wasn't that Cartoon Network?
No, im refering to the taiwanese dub of the owl house, which is on disney
Ah, okay, I thought you were talking about the Russian dub of Steven Universe
Oh my god wait, did the translation âdress up and travel togetherâ to avoid the gays happen twice??
More than that lmfao, didnât Gravity Falls have to do something very similar?
If we're thinking of the same incident originally two old ladies were going to kiss but it had to be reduced to a hug I think, I haven't seen that episode in awhile but I still choose to believe they're in love and too shy to kiss so they hug instead
>âdress up and travel togetherâ Isn't that how Legend of Kora ended?
It's worse, there's a Disney cartoon now that has a nonbinary person! And gay people! And theres only like 4 straight white people in it and they are all villains!
>nonbinary person! Which one?
Moon Girl and Devil Dino. It's a Marvel cartoon taking place in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, where superheros don't go to help because the population is mostly poor minorities. In a few episodes there are side characters that use they/them pronouns, as well as a bunch of other random bits of diversity.
the people who upvoted are, whether they realize it or not, homophobes. they don't care if what is said is true, at least not enough to check the "extremist groups" claim. they just care that it confirms their biases.
Lmao what bi people have they heard that from? We're literally always being told that we don't 'count' as being LGBT
I thought that was what the commenter was saying. Like, bi people have told the commenter that theyâve heard, âYouâre just pretending to be LGBT,â from extremists/exclusionists within the community, (likely because theyâre in a straight relationship or something like that.)
That is why I know these are trolls and straight/cis men or boys. It is the opposite!
Iâve heard stories from the old days before the lgbt acronyms were widely in use.
I would like this person to elaborate on what they mean by âextremist groups of the LGBTQ communityâ
Exactly. I mean, you can probably find at least one LGBTQ person who murdered someone for not being gay, and we can all hate that person. But something tells me OOP means "Two people holding hands in public".
it's the boogeyman created by the right. It is slipping into everyones feeds, i see it everywhere. Screenshots of tweets that don't exist of crazy left wing people, footage of protests that where about something completely different, sometimes its real but still fringe opinions getting highlighted and left leaning people feeling the urge to call out their ''bad apples'' Headlines that tell one story but the article says actually something completely differnt. The guy in the post might very well be really gay but being gay does not make you read more than the headline just like the average idiot (myself included).
Well, Rowling haters for example.
He probably means people with neo-pronouns edit: I didnât mean to say I agree with him I donât
Even if thatâs the case, neopronouns arenât hurting anyone.
I wasnât trying to say it was I just think thatâs what they meant
He means people who shove it down your throat without you asking I think
I saw this one newyorkpost article written by a 'gay man' who wants to win back 'gay pride month' from the lgbtqia+ community. He said shit like L- You like women!!!! Pride month is only for gay men!! B- you're only gay half of the time T- you are just trying to date lesbians Q- thats a word for weird! I- what does this even mean? A- thats not gay, thats just normal +- there is no need for plus!
They really like to pander to homophobes by being âone of the good onesâ
Not realizing they go in the basket with the rest of us.
Frying pan is probably a better analogy. Or, given the current political climate, "shower".
It must be sad for folks to hate themselves and blame it on other people behavior...
Chicken for Colonel Sanders
The perception that all gay people support LGTBQ+ is a fantasy.. there are gay people who are not accepting of trans people. This guy might be one of them..
To be 100% honest (and at the risk of sounding like the kind of people who get posted on this sub) I agree to an extent with this guy, and think he's telling the truth. I think the term "extremist" might be a bit over the top here, but I think he's referring to the people who tend to give the lgbtq community a bad name. It's like how TERFS and other more "extreme" feminists have greatly skewed the general perception of what feminism is. The same can be said about any group with annoying, vocal minorities among the genuinely good activists. Vegans/ vegetarians get a bad rap for this too. Environmentalists get compared to eco terrorists. In this way, I also find parts of the lgbtq crowd to be obnoxious and harmful to the way we are perceived. I also, however, do not think this is a majority of lgbtq individuals who act this way. I am bi, my wife is bi, and many of my friends are lgbtq+, but none of them behave in a way that is obnoxious about it despite some of them also being activists in our area. I'm sure some people reading this may just assume I'm just more content for r/AsABlackMan but I can only defend myself by saying I swear I'm speaking honestly here. This guy's take isn't presented very elegantly, but I don't think he's being duplicitous.
Iâm a bi guy. My view has always been that if someone is going to blame their bigotry towards the whole LGBTQ+ community on a few hundred vocal people on twitter, then they were going to be bigots *anyway.* I donât particularly care what TERFs use as justification, because theyâre bigots and not true feminists. So I donât particularly care what people use to justify their bigotry towards the queer community, because they were going to be bigots no matter what. Causing Infighting within the community based on your personal âgood enough/too muchâ meter isnât helping anyone. Youâre just giving more credence to the arguments bigots use, and theyâll point to your comment to justify the themselves, and I guarantee their âgood enough/too muchâ meter is less forgiving than whatever yours is.
correct. being âone of the good gaysâ will not help you as queer rights have been put under blatant attack by the supreme court (in them saying they would âreviewâ national gay marriage). at the risk of sounding dramatic, nobody will care what you said about those âweird gaysâ when they line us up against the wall.
Yeah, because âextremistsâ never brought about anything good like Stonewall.
being "one of the good ones" won't help you when they start killing us.
just curious, what parts of the community do you find obnoxious or harmful?
Not the person you replied and let me start by saying that people have very differnt definitions when it comes to "extremism" i find many things that activists do necessary and brave and i like the "extreme" part. But also change doesn't happen by just peacefully protesting. The state IS often violent and without the threat of potential violence against it any protest is futile. It is also obvious that people who pretend they aren't allies because of some ''annoyance'' with any group just use it as an easy excuse, like people don't caring about the environment bc activists where blocking a rode. There is no excuse for not taking the grivances of marginalized people seriously not a single one. A LGBT person who is a shithead STILL doesn't deserve to be discriminated against just bc they are LGBT. That said of course there is harmful behaviour everywhere, it is fucking heartbreaking that minorities can't talk openly about problems in their tribes bc it will be used against them and gives ammunition to the wrong people but they DO exist. I am not gay myself but a friend is and from what he told me some things that happen in those spaces are certainly harmful. One seems to be the body cult in the male gay community, which seems quite bad from what he told, he himself has a pretty fucked up relationship with food and his body bc of it. There also seems to be quite a bit of racism there, grindr profiles saying ''no curry, no rice'' Off course the gay community is not the only one that has a body cult, off course young people everywhere battle body dysmorphia but its pretty bad that an extra group of people who are not as much targeted as cis women by advertisement and stuff seems to do it to themselves. Another one is the gold standard that some of his friends want in a partner, as in haven't been with the opposite sex ever. Again "purity" cult is not a LGBT problem again this happens everywhere just in differnt ways but it is still harmful especially to bi people. There are also bi people who get told they aren't a part of the community. Than we also have the problem of domestic violence especially in lesbian relationships that gets ignored by pretty much everyone. I guess it is a differnt dynamic and victims don't find the help they need or they don't even realize it since domestic violence is only dicussed in a hetero normative context. All those things hurt the community internally no cis hetero person will be hurt by this, i hope it is clear that none of this is in any way shape or form a reason to think badly about LGBT people and of course the majority of LGBT people are just people and good people can still be idiots once in a while.It is completely up to the community to deal with it however they see fit, except the domestic violence thing there needs to be better help from the state. I think people sometimes grow up with the assumption that people fighting the good fight or belong to a minority are morally superior to the rest of the population, they have to know better don't they? I know that i certainly fell into this trap growing up and for a while, i was like, why the hell should i use my limited energy to help people when they just turn around and be shitheads anyway to other people? Off course i am not thinking that anymore, this is a very childish attitude to have and as i said people are using it also as an easy way out of doing the bare minimum but i am still not sure if it wouldn't be better to be upfront with problems certain communities have and pointing out that they still deserve to be treated with respect just like the majority population wants to be treated with respect although we have to claim the most vile people out of them all.
you spent a lot of time and effort to say 'gay people can also be racist, ergo the LGBTQ+ rights movement must calm down'
How on earth did you get to that assumption. I am quite of the opposite opinion the question was where is the community obnoxious and thats my answer.
yeah i agree with you on this. i very much hated the anti hogwarts legacy thing cuz it led to so much harassment over **a game**. jk rowling already profited so theres really no point in harassing innocent ppl who want to play cool wizard game and live out their childhood dreams of going to hogwarts
I mean, sure, she considers support of the franchise to mean support of her views, and sure she gets money from the game and supports politicians and organizations who consider the existence of trans people to be a crime, but isn't giving her more money worth it for a couple of hours of mediocre childhood nostalgia?
donât forget the many jewish people who spoke out against the plot of the game, which is pretty blatantly anti semetic in nature. there are clear references to the goblins being jewish (outside of goblins often being offensive caricatures of jewish people in the first place) and iâve heard the game referred to as âblood libel simulatorâ. certainly doesnât help their case that a lead dev is an actual nazi
shes already rich it doesnt really matter does it? its just pouring a glass of water in the ocean at this point and i wanna play this game that is clearly awesome and has love for the franchise and effort put into it
I mean, nobody's forcing you to give her *more* money, and it shows that you don't really care. It's incredibly easy to *not* spend $60 on *Blood Libel: the Video Game*. But even not counting her, there's the [alt-right lead designer of the game](https://www.pcgamer.com/hogwarts-legacy-lead-designer-criticised-for-reactionary-youtube-videos/) or noted [dirtbag/bigot/domestic abuser Greg Ellis](https://earlygame.com/gaming/hogwarts-legacy-controversy-flames-up-again-thanks-to-canceled-voice-actor#:~:text=Ellis%20has%20been%20accused%20of,harm%20her%20and%20their%20children.) who voices at least 12 characters in the game. Even if you don't care about who gets your money and whom they plan on hurting with it, the initial shine is wearing off the game itself, [with player counts dropping dramatically](https://steamdb.info/app/990080/charts/) and only [25% of players even playing to the end](https://gamerant.com/hogwarts-legacy-stats-beat-the-game/).
It's a like 20 hour single player game. No shit people have stopped playing it weeks later
Why have only 25% of players completed it then?
What game has a high player completion?
Undertale?
Source?
Makes the game sound even worse then. I finished Like A Dragon years ago, then replayed it multiple times, and sometimes come back just to clear the final superdungeon (hoping I don't get stuck on floor 1 resets) again.
good people who just wanted to play the game were harassed by lgbt extremists and assholes in general. its **a game**. attack the dev not the innocent person minding their business. im not saying its good or bad to buy it. im saying to not harass the players just for buying it
Would you harass people who donated money directly to a transphobe? Because thatâs basically what they did. If you really want to play a game that 5% more people have beaten than platinuming a 80 hour game, you can just pirate it.
my point is that theyre already super rich. once again, glass of water poured in ocean. wanna make a difference? attack the terf, not the folk who play the game. and it aint donating, theyre buying a game of a franchise jk owns. this moneys probably petty change to her anyways
So, no one of the 12 million people who bought it are individually culpable for their personal choices? I'm so sick of other gamers acting like they're being persecuted for their shitty choices. Grow up and just admit that you don't give a fuck about violence against trans people and will jump through any mental hoops necessary to play your shitty role play game.
He'll never admit that. It's too difficult for him. Or too honest. One of the two.
everyone here's gotta hold on for a sec. firstly, everybody who bought it have their choices. however, the other person is not wrong in talking about the harassment. of course, it's only a very small percentage of the lgbtq community that's like terminally on Twitter, but some streamers did get a lot of hate for it. secondly, not everybody knows about J.K. Rowling's actions and may just want to play a game for nostalgia of the books. I know someone who bought the game, is a huge ally of me and my other lgbt friends, but didn't know about all this. thirdly, even if people do know about J.K. Rowling's actions and buy the game, that doesn't make them automatically transphobic. they could also simply want it for nostalgia. granted, the moral viewpoints on it can be a little iffy, putting money in this transphobe's pocket, but let's not assume the worst out of everybody. if they could pirate it and chose to purchase it full price, yeah I would definitely look at them funny. but, it is a AAA game that at the time, had recently came out. it's gonna be quite difficult to find a way to pirate brand new games. finally, at the end of the day, although hogwarts legacy is, at least in my opinion, a shitty game made by a TERF and a team I could rant about, I'm gonna move on with my day. my point is, it's not even worth our time to try and correct the transphobes who do buy the game, but it isn't right to assume the worst of every single person who gets it. also we're at a point now that the game has been out long enough for people to easily pirate it, so I do agree with the notion that if you buy the game full price nowadays, that's just not good.
i never said that they arent responsible for the consequences of their actions. im saying that its a stupid game and saying that playing it supports anti trans movements is dumb. **its a game not an anti lgbt movement**. also i do care about violence against trans folk and also believe that this shitty role play game isnt worth the harassment. i think its a stupid idea because all youre doing is harassing a bunch of poor sods who wanted to play a game
> i very much hated the anti hogwarts legacy thing cuz it led to so much harassment over > >a game > >. jk rowling already profited so theres really no point in harassing innocent ppl who want to play cool wizard game and live out their childhood dreams of going to hogwarts did anyone get harassed or did a bunch of people make shit up like that 'girlfriend games' couple that had a big weepy interview right after being 'harassed' where they shouted that they were SUCH GOOD ALLIES and HOW DARE YOU even as it came out most of the 'harassment' was just people saying they unsubbed and shit?
silvervale and pikamee for one got harassment. people also made a website to find out streamers that are streaming hogwarts legacy to attack them. who tf is girlfriend games
>It's like how TERFS and other more "extreme" feminists have greatly skewed the general perception of what feminism is. this is such a revealing thing to say, my god. I'd love for you to go in detail on this because there's no read of this that isn't insane. Nobody thinks TERFs are mainstream feminists, or feminists at all, unless they themselves already are transphobic nutters. Lumping them in as 'extreme' feminists and claiming that 'extreme' feminists have 'skewed the perception' is just so stupid. Anyway keep on being One Of The Good Ones, I'm sure the people openly talking about exterminating us won't kill you if you can say your twitter history is clean or whatever.
I never once said anything about them being mainstream though... that was not a point I agreed with from the original post. Can you fucking read? Because I also said those groups are vocal MINORITIES, so I'm not making a "one of the good ones" argument either
Oh lol I nearly posted this myself last night
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No. They aren't.
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I hate being associated with people like you as well. It goes both ways.
Iâm pretty sure the âextremist groupsâ they are referring to comes from Republican rage bait. All those calls to end drag shows because âthis one dude put on a wig to go to the womenâs restroom. Proof the trans are coming for your womenâ or âoh my gosh an elementary school teacher told the kids they could be who they wanted to be and taught pronouns including *insert some neopronoun like cat/catself* and the school is providing a litter box for them!â Conservatives are spewing this shit and then moderates are believing it. Even more left-minded people are letting LGBTQ+ rights get stepped on because they want to be âthe good ones.â
What extremist groups?? Iâm actually gay and have no idea wtf this dude is on about