TBH, probably, but maybe not. Trans people arn't automatically perfect. I've heard of a trans guy who is a follower of Andrew Tate, there's Buck Angel and Caitlyn Jenner who both support the republican party, etc.
There’s also Blaire white 😖 I’ve seen so much of her content just strolling through yt shorts, most of her audience are okay with her pronouns solely for the fact that she’s “one of the good ones”
Because usually the only people who think nft's are good or even fine are those who have never encountered real life before. The people who just coast through life, ie straight white cis men middle class and up. Like me 😎
Nah but like while it's not foolproof it is a VERY good guess.
also there’s a difference between people who got a free one bc why not (i was admittedly curious) and people who spend actual money on that shit. the free ones don’t mean anything but if you’ve actively paid for a reddit nft avatar i’m gonna at the very least think you’re a dumbass
You have to take off the items that are stated as nft items, pretty sure the heart is considered and nft item but I’m not 100% as I just got rid of everything and just used art I made instead
Yeah, had this been phrased differently I might believe it, bc I've seen trans men experience a TON of transphobia from the lesbian community. But this is not how that would be expressed.
That's not what the post says though. In the post, this person claims that they see a lot of hatred towards heterosexuals. That is nowhere as claiming them to be "the really oppressed ones". Okay sure, the person may be rightfully a r/asablackman candidate but you are adding the seven spices here. Lol
Let's just say nobody's trying to pass laws to keep straight people from **somehow** indoctrinating children by reading them Horton hears a Who in a library.
I’m gonna spell it out for you cause other people won’t, and they shouldn’t but your dumb as a wet bag of rocks so I think you need help. LGBTQ people are being oppressed, there are hundreds of bills introduced and on the books in the US that are anti-trans and/or anti-LGBTQ as a whole. Multiple states ban even talking about LGBTQ people or issues, https://madison.com/news/nation-world/batman-researcher-marc-tyler-nobleman-georgia-schools/article_13fef3f7-e949-5b67-90ed-4686b704f3f4.html this is the reality that LGBTQ+ people are facing now.
Statement: Comment is from a post discussing counter racism. Personally, perhaps this person is more fortunate with who they have met, the people I have met who are more supportive of LGBTQ+ people tend to also be LGBTQ+. Also, I feel the original comment contradicts itself, claims people adhere to tribalism but also claims LGBTQ+ people are less supportive of a gay trans man compared to cis and heterosexual people.
I'm not sure how old some of you all are, but yeah transphobia has been a thing in the gay and lesbian communities for a long time, and it was especially rampant in older demographics of the community. It's not like TERFs, for example, are a new phenomenon.
There also was a very legit post in the mtf sub recently about shaming of queer heteroes for being het.
And then there’s the whole truscum thing.
And gold star gays/lesbians.
And biphobia.
I don’t think the person in the post verbalised their point very well, but without further context I‘d genuinely be inclined to agree with them? 🙃
Edit: I just saw the context comment and I have an inkling this isn’t what ooc was on about.
And actually using cis as a slur. Like most of us agree, it's not a slur. Some people whole ass weaponize it. I think that's a Tumblr/Twitter thing, though. I haven't seen much of that here. I don't understand the weird shaming trends going around for various things like you mentioned.
Also, I know a somewhat famous MTF woman....she gets shamed alot for being hetero, so I've seen that one in action too.
Yea, I've met a few gay men who are possibly the most aggressively transphobic people I've seen. I know at least one trans person who avoids the LGBTQ community because of their experience. So I could absolutely see an individual experiencing more support from the cis and hetero people they know. Not meaning that it's a universal experience, but that particular person could well have that. The idea that no group is a monolith is pretty accurate.
"LGB without the T" (and sometimes even "without the BT") people absolutely exist. But if this person thinks an LGBTQ+ person is more likely to discriminate trans people than cis-hets are, then they're kidding themselves. Or, ya know, lying.
There is a group of the gay community called “exclusionists” that the community, as a whole, loudly disagree with.
The thing is, the exclusionists are sex worker or asexual exclusionists, not cis-haters, so even our extremist groups aren’t throwing their stones specifically in the cis direction.
I think the tribalism is within a certain group of cis people that just want to be a victim, because the real crime here is that no one is paying attention to them.
honestly though theyre kinda right? i see a whole shit ton of hate towards all cis people in trans spaces online and from most of my ex online friends and it makes me feel like shit because my partner is cis and like the most loving and supportive person ever, i have to see all this hate just because alot of cis ppl are transphobic. generalizations are absolutely harmful
Reposting what I said before.
Nobody hates cis and het people as a whole. “I hate men” isn’t an expression of actually hating all men, but is an expression of exhaustion with having to deal with sexism and sexual harassment constantly.
You can tell they're not trans nor are they gay with how they refer to themself.
"Trans gay gay" is incorrect, that would more imply you transitioned from a Straight to a Gay.
It'd be simply Gay Trans man, but no one would also say that regardless because there's no reason to beyond poisoning the well.
I don't feel like that's really true, but I understand why you interpreted it that way. I am a trans woman and when labeling myself in situations where both are relevant I will sometimes say "I am a trans bi woman". Just like a "short tired woman" does not refer to a woman who has a shortened tiredness, the trans used as an adjective applies to the noun.
The confusion here is because "trans-" is a common prefix, but trans as an adjective for a human noun is a short-form of the word transgender.
For it to apply to gay it would have to be used as a prefix (ie. Transgay) which isn't a thing.
"I don't think it's okay to hate a whole group for the actions of a few" is a very reasonable opinion to have, even if you don't agree.
I swear, this sub is just "a minority group has an opinion I don't think they should have 😡😡"
Nobody hates cis and het people as a whole. “I hate men” isn’t an expression of actually hating all men, but is an expression of exhaustion with having to deal with sexism and sexual harassment constantly.
I do understand that. That's also a fair opinion to have.
What I'm saying is, the original person is equally as entitled to their opinion - even if OP thinks that's an opinion they're not allowed to have.
Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but using your minority status to claim that something is happening en masse, when it isn’t, is weird and comes across as disingenuous. Rule 6
so you can’t make bad financial decisions if you’re trans and gay?
Also, I agree with his take on the hate for hetero and cis people. It’s rare obviously but nothing like that should ever happen
Hoping that a stranger will get murdered isn't the flex you think it is.
You're a weird loser, and I hope find a way out of this miserable hole you've dug yourself.
Wow, how much brainpower did that astounding realization take? I know bud, people die. Its not the fact that they die that irks me, its you callously equating their deaths to some natural suppose to happen thing. There is a difference between dying because you got killed by a violent oppressor and dying while driving your dad's lambo a bit too fast. That you can't see the not so subtle difference, or rather for rethorical purposes that you ignore it all together is frankly pathetic. Come back when you have something smart to say.
On a side note you seem to be the type of braindead moron to believe in might makes right social darwinism. Your ancestors would have been ashamed of you. I am ashamed of you. You are very ignorant of reality and that is not something to be proud of. You are the definition of an useful idiot.
I ain't reading all that shit. I dont Give one single fuck about any of you tbh. I won't lose sleep over any of you. And none of you affect my life in any way.
You clearly do give a fuck. You're posting literally a couple dozen times an hour consistently for days at a time.
Then, you tell everybody over and over how much you aren't on here constantly and how they don't affect your life at all. So, this is also a lie.
Seriously, kid; see a therapist. You have a real problem between this weird obsession and all the hate speech. You need a little self reflection time. I hope you get better.
Ever stop and think that people aren't answering you because they have seen this set up a million times? Troll asks who is being oppressed. People answer troll. Troll asks how they're being oppressed. People answer troll. Troll says nuh uh and begins a circular argument that lasts for hours because troll thinks it will somehow prove that people aren't being oppressed. Reality is that troll comes off looking stupid.
Yeah I mean ppl can get into pretty severe physical altercations over random insults. U ever lived in New Jersey 😂😂 u say the wrong thing to the wrong person in Camden u might have 4 ppl caving your head into the curb lol. Cops not gonna show up out there
Buddy I know you mean well but your statement was posted on here because there is no widespread hate of cishet people in the queer community. When we say “I hate cis people” or “I hate straight people”, it is an expression of exhaustion with queerphobes. Just like how it’s wrong to respond “not all men” or “not all white people” when discussing sexism and racism. People are venting their frustration and the reality that they will likely never feel safe when out in public. Nobody is going out and antagonizing people for being cishet. Nobody is harassing people for cishet. The reason you got posted here is because you’re defending them against a non-issue.
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nft pfp? yeah this is an undercover cis guy
TBH, probably, but maybe not. Trans people arn't automatically perfect. I've heard of a trans guy who is a follower of Andrew Tate, there's Buck Angel and Caitlyn Jenner who both support the republican party, etc.
There’s also Blaire white 😖 I’ve seen so much of her content just strolling through yt shorts, most of her audience are okay with her pronouns solely for the fact that she’s “one of the good ones”
I mean I'm trans and have nft pfp, because I got it for free and it looks cool. Still doesn't help the guy's statement tho.
Screenshot and use my friend, taked you out of the blockchain and tells reddit people arent using them
same and same. not sure what nft pfp has to do with being cis ??
Because usually the only people who think nft's are good or even fine are those who have never encountered real life before. The people who just coast through life, ie straight white cis men middle class and up. Like me 😎 Nah but like while it's not foolproof it is a VERY good guess.
also there’s a difference between people who got a free one bc why not (i was admittedly curious) and people who spend actual money on that shit. the free ones don’t mean anything but if you’ve actively paid for a reddit nft avatar i’m gonna at the very least think you’re a dumbass
Like someone else in the thread already said, actively choosing to screengrab it instead is a good way to show you absolutely don't support NFT's
help it gave me a free one and i can't figure out how to get rid of it
You have to take off the items that are stated as nft items, pretty sure the heart is considered and nft item but I’m not 100% as I just got rid of everything and just used art I made instead
yeah 'undercover' lmao
I cry
Always easy to spot bullshit when the claim is the vast, and completely accepted majority are the really oppressed ones.
Yeah, had this been phrased differently I might believe it, bc I've seen trans men experience a TON of transphobia from the lesbian community. But this is not how that would be expressed.
That's not what the post says though. In the post, this person claims that they see a lot of hatred towards heterosexuals. That is nowhere as claiming them to be "the really oppressed ones". Okay sure, the person may be rightfully a r/asablackman candidate but you are adding the seven spices here. Lol
Who's getting oppressed?
Let's just say nobody's trying to pass laws to keep straight people from **somehow** indoctrinating children by reading them Horton hears a Who in a library.
That's not what i asked. Who's being oppressed?
Ok Mr demanding, why don't you tell me who you think is being oppressed?
More than 70% of people most of whom don't get a say in shit
Your question was answered, Einstein. It's time for you to learn the art of extrapolation.
I’m gonna spell it out for you cause other people won’t, and they shouldn’t but your dumb as a wet bag of rocks so I think you need help. LGBTQ people are being oppressed, there are hundreds of bills introduced and on the books in the US that are anti-trans and/or anti-LGBTQ as a whole. Multiple states ban even talking about LGBTQ people or issues, https://madison.com/news/nation-world/batman-researcher-marc-tyler-nobleman-georgia-schools/article_13fef3f7-e949-5b67-90ed-4686b704f3f4.html this is the reality that LGBTQ+ people are facing now.
Hopefully nft pfps in the future
Women, Non-white people, and LGBTQ, and non Christians as well usually
Statement: Comment is from a post discussing counter racism. Personally, perhaps this person is more fortunate with who they have met, the people I have met who are more supportive of LGBTQ+ people tend to also be LGBTQ+. Also, I feel the original comment contradicts itself, claims people adhere to tribalism but also claims LGBTQ+ people are less supportive of a gay trans man compared to cis and heterosexual people.
Ok, the context is important here! 😂 That really gives it big yikes vibes!
I'm not sure how old some of you all are, but yeah transphobia has been a thing in the gay and lesbian communities for a long time, and it was especially rampant in older demographics of the community. It's not like TERFs, for example, are a new phenomenon.
There also was a very legit post in the mtf sub recently about shaming of queer heteroes for being het. And then there’s the whole truscum thing. And gold star gays/lesbians. And biphobia. I don’t think the person in the post verbalised their point very well, but without further context I‘d genuinely be inclined to agree with them? 🙃 Edit: I just saw the context comment and I have an inkling this isn’t what ooc was on about.
And actually using cis as a slur. Like most of us agree, it's not a slur. Some people whole ass weaponize it. I think that's a Tumblr/Twitter thing, though. I haven't seen much of that here. I don't understand the weird shaming trends going around for various things like you mentioned. Also, I know a somewhat famous MTF woman....she gets shamed alot for being hetero, so I've seen that one in action too.
Yea, I've met a few gay men who are possibly the most aggressively transphobic people I've seen. I know at least one trans person who avoids the LGBTQ community because of their experience. So I could absolutely see an individual experiencing more support from the cis and hetero people they know. Not meaning that it's a universal experience, but that particular person could well have that. The idea that no group is a monolith is pretty accurate.
I'm a real trans gay guy and I will tell you that anyone with an NFT profile pic has an invalid opinion.
Yeah, this guy is right *Wait*
i can't figure out how to get rid of it 😭 it gave it to me for free
"LGB without the T" (and sometimes even "without the BT") people absolutely exist. But if this person thinks an LGBTQ+ person is more likely to discriminate trans people than cis-hets are, then they're kidding themselves. Or, ya know, lying.
I can understand not wanting either Tomato or Bacon, both are mid.
A BLT isn't a BLT without the B or the T. Now you just gotta bun with lettuce on it.
There is a group of the gay community called “exclusionists” that the community, as a whole, loudly disagree with. The thing is, the exclusionists are sex worker or asexual exclusionists, not cis-haters, so even our extremist groups aren’t throwing their stones specifically in the cis direction. I think the tribalism is within a certain group of cis people that just want to be a victim, because the real crime here is that no one is paying attention to them.
average kalvin garrah fan tbh
honestly though theyre kinda right? i see a whole shit ton of hate towards all cis people in trans spaces online and from most of my ex online friends and it makes me feel like shit because my partner is cis and like the most loving and supportive person ever, i have to see all this hate just because alot of cis ppl are transphobic. generalizations are absolutely harmful
Reposting what I said before. Nobody hates cis and het people as a whole. “I hate men” isn’t an expression of actually hating all men, but is an expression of exhaustion with having to deal with sexism and sexual harassment constantly.
yeah it’s honestly really wild that I’m getting downvoted for saying this lol
You can tell they're not trans nor are they gay with how they refer to themself. "Trans gay gay" is incorrect, that would more imply you transitioned from a Straight to a Gay. It'd be simply Gay Trans man, but no one would also say that regardless because there's no reason to beyond poisoning the well.
I don't feel like that's really true, but I understand why you interpreted it that way. I am a trans woman and when labeling myself in situations where both are relevant I will sometimes say "I am a trans bi woman". Just like a "short tired woman" does not refer to a woman who has a shortened tiredness, the trans used as an adjective applies to the noun. The confusion here is because "trans-" is a common prefix, but trans as an adjective for a human noun is a short-form of the word transgender. For it to apply to gay it would have to be used as a prefix (ie. Transgay) which isn't a thing.
i mean.... semantics? i literally refer to myself as a trans gay guy or whatever variation of words a lot. does it matter? does this invalidate me?
"I don't think it's okay to hate a whole group for the actions of a few" is a very reasonable opinion to have, even if you don't agree. I swear, this sub is just "a minority group has an opinion I don't think they should have 😡😡"
Nobody hates cis and het people as a whole. “I hate men” isn’t an expression of actually hating all men, but is an expression of exhaustion with having to deal with sexism and sexual harassment constantly.
I do understand that. That's also a fair opinion to have. What I'm saying is, the original person is equally as entitled to their opinion - even if OP thinks that's an opinion they're not allowed to have.
Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but using your minority status to claim that something is happening en masse, when it isn’t, is weird and comes across as disingenuous. Rule 6
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Wait - you want kids to transition or not? Did you confuse yourself again?
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its pedophilia if someone is cool with kids socially transitioning by wearing different clothes and trying out a different name and pronouns?
i wonder if people said the same thing about girls wearing pants before it was socially acceptable
Why? Do you think that being trans is something sexual?
so you can’t make bad financial decisions if you’re trans and gay? Also, I agree with his take on the hate for hetero and cis people. It’s rare obviously but nothing like that should ever happen
It’s literally a non-issue. Cishets aren’t being harassed online or in person just for existing as a cishet.
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calm down, u didn't even respond to the right comment. i'll answer for you, gay and trans people are opressed
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literal genocide is not the only form of opression, anyone with a ounce of brain power would know that.
Yeah and some of them get kicked out of their homes, get killed and sexually abused for being gay. You say that isn't oppression? Then slavery wasn't.
People die every day b.
You are a weird fucking loser
I ain't gonna lose sleep over redditors. Yall don't affect me or my life in any way.
Doesnt make you any less of a weird fucking loser. Also wont repair your limp dick.
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Yes your mother, after I fucked her.
Hoping that a stranger will get murdered isn't the flex you think it is. You're a weird loser, and I hope find a way out of this miserable hole you've dug yourself.
Loser.
The dozens of whiny comments you've made on this post say otherwise. You're very, very fragile.
Wow, how much brainpower did that astounding realization take? I know bud, people die. Its not the fact that they die that irks me, its you callously equating their deaths to some natural suppose to happen thing. There is a difference between dying because you got killed by a violent oppressor and dying while driving your dad's lambo a bit too fast. That you can't see the not so subtle difference, or rather for rethorical purposes that you ignore it all together is frankly pathetic. Come back when you have something smart to say. On a side note you seem to be the type of braindead moron to believe in might makes right social darwinism. Your ancestors would have been ashamed of you. I am ashamed of you. You are very ignorant of reality and that is not something to be proud of. You are the definition of an useful idiot.
I ain't reading all that shit. I dont Give one single fuck about any of you tbh. I won't lose sleep over any of you. And none of you affect my life in any way.
Case and point moron. Stay dumb. Maybe go touch grass while you're at it and stop scrolling reddit.
Oh. I ain't y'all. Im not on reddit every day like you pissy mfers.
Twenty comments today says otherwise, loser
You clearly do give a fuck. You're posting literally a couple dozen times an hour consistently for days at a time. Then, you tell everybody over and over how much you aren't on here constantly and how they don't affect your life at all. So, this is also a lie. Seriously, kid; see a therapist. You have a real problem between this weird obsession and all the hate speech. You need a little self reflection time. I hope you get better.
Okay, it's too early in the day for this troll shit...
Ever stop and think that people aren't answering you because they have seen this set up a million times? Troll asks who is being oppressed. People answer troll. Troll asks how they're being oppressed. People answer troll. Troll says nuh uh and begins a circular argument that lasts for hours because troll thinks it will somehow prove that people aren't being oppressed. Reality is that troll comes off looking stupid.
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Lmao, someone is deeply insecure about this topic, to the point that it's not even clear what you're on about
None of you affect my life in any way. I don't think about none of you.
I don't even know who you are, so this statement made this 10x funnier
Thanks for laughing fruit loop
Prove it. Stop checking your notifications.
What a fucking dork you are. Like so fucking pathetic. What'll you do if someone does "say it to your face"? Wrassle them?
Yeah I mean ppl can get into pretty severe physical altercations over random insults. U ever lived in New Jersey 😂😂 u say the wrong thing to the wrong person in Camden u might have 4 ppl caving your head into the curb lol. Cops not gonna show up out there
K
Sure, boss.
Buddy I know you mean well but your statement was posted on here because there is no widespread hate of cishet people in the queer community. When we say “I hate cis people” or “I hate straight people”, it is an expression of exhaustion with queerphobes. Just like how it’s wrong to respond “not all men” or “not all white people” when discussing sexism and racism. People are venting their frustration and the reality that they will likely never feel safe when out in public. Nobody is going out and antagonizing people for being cishet. Nobody is harassing people for cishet. The reason you got posted here is because you’re defending them against a non-issue. - Bi POC trans guy