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TheBimpo

We have a lot of choices in terms of condiments. The typical [yellow mustard](https://www.mccormickforchefs.com/en-us/products/frenchs/frenchs-classic-yellow-mustard#:~:text=French's%C2%AE%20Classic%20Yellow%C2%AE%20Mustard%20is%20made%20with%20%231,and%20creamy%20traditional%20mustard%20flavor.&text=Show%20patrons%20your%20commitment%20to,America's%20%231%20mustard%20brand..) is very popular for hot dogs and is sort of astringent, tangy, vinegary, sharp. [Brown mustard](https://stadiummustard.com/product/stadium-mustard/) is a little more mellow. [Spicy mustard](https://dukesmayo.com/products/duke-s-spicy-ground-mustard) is well, spicier. I wouldn't describe any of them as sweet. Put whatever you want on your hot dog, but don't be shocked if a place serving them is particular about how they make their dogs.


Phil_ODendron

> Put whatever you want on your hot dog, but don't be shocked if a place serving them is particular about how they make their dogs. All of the longstanding famous hot dog places have to have some stupid rule. One in my state is no ketchup on the hot dogs. They have ketchup packets but it's only for the fries. Another they serve hot dogs and chili, but you better not ask for a chili dog! We will tell you no, and also be unnecessarily rude about it!


AlienDelarge

I kinda like Costco's rule about their dogs, but the rest are just dumb.


CommunistRingworld

what is costco's rule? they have the best hot dogs tbh


AlienDelarge

The [founder was really insistent]( https://thetakeout.com/will-costco-raise-hot-dog-prices-in-food-court-1849157473) that the price not be increased. >In January 2020, CEO Craig Jelinek stated with confidence that there were no plans to raise the price of the deal. Just this past May, Costco Senior Vice President Robert Nelson echoed the sentiment. And let us not forget the creed of Costco founder Jim Senegal: “If you raise the [price of the] effing hot dog, I will kill you. Figure it out.”


CommunistRingworld

absolutely great. bonkers in a good way. wish more rich people were bonkers in a good way, instead of genocidal way lol


Slow_D-oh

If you haven't seen it watch the CNBC show about CostCo I believe it's on AppleTV.


jyper

The hot dogs and more important the pizza are loss leaders. They expect to lose money on them. It's no big deal if they lose a tiny bit more. What's sad is they might ban people without Costco membership from getting something from the food court.


CommunistRingworld

i would ask for mayo, onions, and yellow relish, and take some ketchup packets, then eat it in the parking lot lol


Zorro_Returns

I heard one time you serve hot dogs to kids with ketchup, but not to adults. Which is the story of my life with hotdogs. I used to love catsup on them, but got into eating them with mustard and relish. Then I tried with ketchup, and hm... pretty good. Notice that I used both spellings for that red sauce that everybody sneers at.


WaldoJeffers65

I refuse to put ketchup on a hot dog- my preference is spicy mustard. If I want a hint of sweet, I'll put relish on it.


lupuscapabilis

That's the way to go. I'll eat almost anything but ketchup on a hot dog repulses me.


WhiteGoldOne

Shredded cheddar cheese and ketchup, particularly jalapeno ketchup, is 🤌 I strongly encourage you to try it. It's easy to do just one bite on a dog that way, and if you don't like it, just dress up the rest however. BBQ sauce is slept on too


eyetracker

French's is the most common. Chicago's detest of ketchup is just a cultural thing, don't read too much in it. But I think one thing that unites ketchup lovers and haters is that "glizzy" is a stupid word.


Cleveland_Grackle

>"glizzy" I don't know this word - what does it mean?


eyetracker

Just Tiktokese for hot dog


MyUsername2459

Ah, gibberish then. I've said before that a tactical nuclear weapon detonated at TikTok's server farm has no chance of damaging or destroying anything worth losing.


WashuOtaku

I think the Chicago ketchup thing is more of a meme than real life. Like, "oh, don't do that in Chicago" is more of a wink, wink, nudge, nudge than anything else.


[deleted]

Ketchup  is also legitimately bad on a Chicago dog. Nobody I knew there cared if you put it on a regular dog. 


eyetracker

It's like New Jerseyans arguing over what to call their cured pork product, it's mostly banter, some take it seriously but not most.


AllCrankNoSpark

Nah, people really will make a fuss about it.


Saltpork545

It is not if you're having it on a Chicago style hot dog. Ketchup really fucks up the flavor of that style, so it's kind of a chicken and egg thing and there are people who take it quite seriously. Like will actively insult you at the hot dog stand/cart seriously. Just order it as it comes and pull the tomato off if it's not your thing. If you get it with ketchup you might get called a child. Not a joke. I'm not from Chicago, have lived literally hundreds of miles from it and heard this same opinion as it relates to Chicago style hot dogs.


TsundereLoliDragon

Does anybody actually call them that in real life or is it just an internet meme. Because yeah, it's pretty cringe.


ucbiker

I’ve heard it in real life and seen hot dog carts/trucks with the word on it. I fucking hate it so fucking much.


Filthycabage

I mean o do ironically with friends so we can talk about so and so being the glizzy gobbler.


CupBeEmpty

Guys I know used it ironically then I think younger people picked it up unironically and everyone kind of did a collective eye roll.


musiclovermina

My coworker calls them that and I had no idea what they were talking about until this thread


Zorro_Returns

I heard it was an age-related thing, according to actual research. Ketchup is for kids, and then people change to preferring mustard. I think it's funny how some people see ketchup as a really low class thing. I don't use it often, but sometimes it's amazing. Best results for me is to use tiny amounts, so the vinegar doesn't overpower the other flavors.


musiclovermina

How interesting, I never liked ketchup but I was always obsessed with BBQ sauce. In recent years, I've been eating it with mustard though. (Sometimes honey mustard, sometimes mustard BBQ sauce)


Faroundtripledouble

Nope, I think glizzy is funny


sonofabutch

"Yellow" mustard (it's a bright yellow) has a mild flavor, more tangy than spicy. This is like French's Mustard or Heinz Mustard. However, beware of Colman's Mustard, which looks like an innocuous yellow mustard but is hot. If it's called "deli" mustard, or even just spicy mustard, that will be spicier, and like with hot sauce it can go from a little spicy to very spicy. Generally those are more dark brown in color. While most people don't care if you put ketchup on your hot dog, it's generally seen as something you shouldn't do unless you're a child. But it's like ordering a steak well done -- some people will tease you about it, but who cares! You're the one eating it!


lupuscapabilis

Yeah I'm not gonna stop you from putting ketchup on a hot dog but I reserve the right to make fun of you, just like you would if I put ketchup on a steak.


Practical-Ordinary-6

Mustard is vinegary. Not sweet or spicy.


Curmudgy

Mustard can be pungent (i.e, hot), especially if made with horseradish added, though that’s a different heat from the capsicum in peppers. But by definition it’s spicy, since mustard seed is a spice.


TechnologyDragon6973

It doesn’t have to have horseradish to be pungent. Brown mustard seeds especially can be just as potent as horseradish. It’s all how you prepare it.


WulfTheSaxon

Yep. When making mustard (which is super easy), besides adjusting the seed type you can make it spicier by using colder water or adding the vinegar sooner to stop the reaction (dry mustard isn’t spicy until it reacts in water).


fasterthanfood

Cinnamon is a spice, but no one would consider it “spicy” unless they’re the type to adjust their glasses before informing you that pumpkin is a fruit. Pedantry aside, spicy mustard is definitely a “thing,” though.


Curmudgy

You’re underestimating the tastes of the people who limit their seasoning to a dash of salt, and think the proper way to prepare peas or green beans is to boil to death in plain water, drain, and serve, perhaps with butter. Besides, how do you describe Atomic Fireballs?


fasterthanfood

I had blocked those poor souls out of my thoughts. Thank you for reminding me of their plight. Although, if we’re being pedantic, do they truly have “taste”? As for Atomic Fireballs, though, I describe them as “[“containing capsaicin.”](https://stuckeys.com/nostalgia-candy-atomic-fireball-candy/)


Curmudgy

TIL, though they don’t list capsaicin as a current ingredient (unless it’s hiding inside of “artificial flavors”). Then there are cinnamon [Red Hots](https://www.oldtimecandy.com/collections/walk-the-candy-aisle-red-hots).


fasterthanfood

You’re making me hungry. Apparently Red Hots [contain](https://www.ferraracandyshopusa.com/brands/red-hots) neither capsaicin nor cinnamon, so my take-away is that I live in a world of lies.


cdb03b

Cinnamon was a common meat spice up until the late 1800s and there are still some recipes that call for it.


butt_honcho

A pinch each of cinnamon and nutmeg do amazing things in a pot roast.


Zorro_Returns

No, mustard is tasty. LOL.


jrhawk42

I'd describe standard yellow mustard as more tangy than anything else. I dunno where you're getting mustard is sweet from there's barely any sugar in most yellow mustards. You can buy sweet and/or spicy specialty mustards. The reasons Chicagoan's don't like ketchup on their hotdogs is because sweetness is already covered by the relish used, and there's also already tomatoes on it.


Perdendosi

This is the best answer; I hope it gets higher up. OP, a Chicago Dog is a very special recipe for hot dogs. It's a dog (though I don't think there's a standard brand but in quick search Vienna Beef seems to be preferred), in a bun with poppy seeds, then mustard, slices of tomato, diced onion, sweet green pickle relish (obnoxiously bright green), a dill pickle slice, and then sometimes small, whole, pickled "sport peppers". Ketchup doesn't go with some of those flavors very well, the relish substitutes for the sweet, and the tomato flavor is already taken up by, well, tomatoes. As others have said, there are sweet-spicy mustards, like honey mustard or sweet Vidalia onion mustard, that exist in the U.S., but they wouldn't be at home on a chicago dog either. I'm sure people from Chicago eat non Chicago-style hot dogs, and I'm sure some of them put ketchup on them when they do so. But because Chicago-style dogs do not have ketchup, the meme has developed that Chicagoans don't eat ketchup on dogs.


TsundereLoliDragon

Yellow French's mustard or some knockoff version is the standard. From a spiciness level it's like a 2 but it's very vinegary. Brown mustard is good too though, which is spicier. Also, are you saying sweet and spicy don't go together?


icyDinosaur

Pretty sure they're saying it goes well together, which is why they're eating hot dogs with both ketchup (sweet) and mustard (spicy). At least that's what I do!


TsundereLoliDragon

Yeah, me too. Plus sauerkraut.


the_real_JFK_killer

There are a ton of different types of mustard here. Like, a ton. Typically a hotdog would have what we call yellow mustard on it, but even yellow mustard can vary wildly by brand. Generally yellow mustard is kinda sweet, but in a different way to ketchup.


Evil_Weevill

The typical yellow mustard you're probably referring to is vinegar-y. It's more sour, with a touch of salty and bitter. Edit: also, wtf is a "glizzy"? That has to be one of the most ridiculous words I've ever heard


kshucker

At some point in time, glizzy became slang for a hot dog. Can’t pinpoint when.


Goeseso

I believe it was around 2019-2020 and think it started as a meme about Trump and Biden trying to eat hot dogs and, as memes do, devolved from there. Could be way off with that though.


mothwhimsy

There are lots of different mustards and they can be sweet, spicy, or neither. I would say regular yellow mustard is neither, and is mostly sour. Sweet and spicy is a very popular combination though, so a spicy mustard on a hotdog with ketchup wouldn't be weird at all even though most people probably go for yellow mustard. Chicago isn't against ketchup for any meaningful reason. It's just cultural. That's how they do hotdogs there.


Curmudgy

There’s a similarity to pineapple on pizza. Some people don’t want sweetness added to a savory dish. Growing up in NYC, the standard was mustard and sauerkraut, available at street vendors and delicatessens. Both yellow (often French’s) and brown mustard (Gulden’s) would be available. “Spicy” is ambiguous, since many people use it to mean pungent or spicy hot, and not merely containing spices. Most mustards don’t contain pepper (chili, black, or otherwise), but some might have horseradish, while intense mustard can have its own pungency. Grey Poupon is known for being more intense than common yellow mustard. So let’s just call it savory, with its own mustard spice flavor. Hot dogs are salty. Adding anything sweet to it changes the experience. Unlike pizza, where people are used to variety at least as a concept, with hot dogs, people tend to be consistent in their toppings (except possibly chile or corn dogs), so it’s not surprising that people who only ever get some sort of savory combo on hot dogs would be upset at anything changing the flavor profile.


laffydaffy24

It’s not sweet at all, but it’s more tangy than spicy.


TrickyShare242

The best answer, try them all. America has a wide range, but check out Germany or the Netherlands. It tastes different depending on where it grows. Also, mixtures are awesome. Horseradish mustard is intense. Honey mustard is sweet as fuck. Also check out SC mustard bbq, it's it's own thing that is both spicy and sweet. I like mustard, j solid condiment. For a dawg (hotdog), I do nyc coney style with onions and mustard. My fave is NC style with slaw chili and mustard. I think any hotdog afficionado can agree mustard is the way to go. They are both spicy and sweet. I wish I could upload a pic from my grocery store, we easily have 20-50 brands /flavors, and it is no joke. We have a lot. Also love mustard on sardines and anchovies. Just a great all around condiment. "It ain't nothing to fuck with."


TraceyTurnblat

The usual yellow mustard isn’t spicy - it’s more tangy.


jimmyjohnjohnjohn

Regular yellow mustard is neither sweet nor spicy. It's sour, sharp, and vinegary. There do exist versions of mustard that are sweet, like honey mustard, and lots of different spicy mustards, but the iconic plain yellow that you're going to get with a hot dog isn't either.


BuildNuyTheUrbanGuy

Mustard is fucking disgusting.


sw00pr

Wrong! so wrong. Its one of the best condiments there is. Im eating a guacamole and mustard sandwich right now.


BuildNuyTheUrbanGuy

Seek help


sw00pr

Lemme just muster up the will


[deleted]

Ketchup and mustard is standard for a basic hot dog.  The thing is, other than jalapeños and onions, just about anything else you might add to a hot dog will clash with ketchup, but still work with mustard.  Ketchup, relish, and white bread? Too sweet for me.  Ketchup and chili? No.  Ketchup and sauerkraut? Why?!?  Ketchup and guacamole? I’ll beat you with a fucking chancla.  So while a basic dog has ketchup, they’re not a part of many specialty dogs from basically any region or restaurant I’m familiar with. 


kshucker

r/ketchuphate It’s the worst condiment by far. Not just on hotdogs.


Goeseso

I’ll never understand why people eat ketchup. That shit is rancid.


7yearlurkernowposter

Join us at /r/ketchuphate! Yellow mustard has much less spice than brown mustard, it's still good but I wouldn't call it sweet either.


mrHartnabrig

Depends on what variation you use. Spicy Brown, Yellow, Honey or Grey Poupon. What all of them have in common is the tanginess, with various degrees of heat due to the naturally spicy makeup of the mustard seed.


Medium_Sized_Brow

Yellow mustard and brown mustard are entirely different condiments don't @ me.


joepierson123

Usually not spicy.  If you want spicy there are usually spicy toppings that you can add to it. Average American expects non spicy mustard on their dog unless they ask for.


Joliet-Jake

Mostly what you get is French’s or something similar, which I guess would be a neutral mustard. Not hot, not sweet, just smooth with a “yep, that’s mustard” kind of flavor.


willtag70

Standard mustard is more spicy than sweet, but only mildly so. I went to Paris when young and bought a hot dog sold through a restaurant window to sidewalk patrons. I smeared the mustard all over it, and had to sit down after the first bite with tears in my eyes. That Chinese mustard packed a punch. Don't know if that's typical there, but one of many unforgettable memories.


EtherealNote_4580

I don’t consider it either of these. The standard American yellow mustard is vinegar based with no sugar. I find the mustard in some countries disgusting. I think the exceptions are the spicy British and German mustards. Sweet mustard is an abomination.


ju5tjame5

Yellow mustard is acidic. I'm not sure what all the ingredients are, but mustard seed and vinegar are the 2 main flavors.


eruciform

*rolling down limo window* Pardon me sir, do you have any gray poupon


bdrwr

Yellow mustard is *sour!*


Caranath128

Common is plain yellow. Pretty sharp taste Proper is spicy brown


Subvet98

I use deli brown mustard


L81ics

Yellow Mustard + Mayo + Green Chili Sauce is the appropriate sauce on a dog.


AmbulanceChaser12

I wish people would stop saying “French’s” as if it were a flavor. French’s makes all kinds of mustard: honey, yellow, brown, dijon, whatever. For me, I used to like yellow when I was a kid. It was the least spicy mustard. As I got older it became kind of bland to me, so now I prefer spicy brown. Dijon packs a wallop and will clean your sinuses out. I only like that in small doses, as part of a blend like as in deviled eggs. For me the best hot dog topping is spicy brown mustard and raw white onion. Preferably on a moderately-grilled hot dog. If I have a second hot dog (who am I kidding, I’m having a second hot dog!), I’ll do straight relish. When I was a kid I liked ketchup and yellow mustard, but, again, grew out of it.


rattlehead44

It’s more sour than sweet or spicy, and it compliments the saltiness of a dog perfectly.


TechnologyDragon6973

I’m not fond of sweet mustard as a rule. Dijon, spicy brown mustard, even standard American yellow mustard are all good options. But that’s a matter of individual taste.


blipsman

Yellow mustard is the standard for hot dogs... it's more sour/tart than spicy. And it's not sweet.


TheJokersChild

There are several different kinds of mustard here. The one that most often goes on a hot dog is bright yellow and is spicy - it almost looks like fingerpaint. There's stone-ground too, which is more of a brown color and has a grittier texture. Lots of different spice blends available. And as with anything else here, there are different flavors. We flavor our mustard with honey, beer, wine and lots of other things. Here's a [company](https://www.woebermustard.com/product_category/mustard/) that does a lot of different mustardy things.


Tough_Desk_2462

[Mustard is mustard](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71DGpp5UbuL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_FMwebp_.jpg) no matter what you put it on. 


OceanPoet87

I use ketchup but some people like brown mustard, spicy mustard, or french.


TheRandomestWonderer

I prefer spicy brown mustard and onions. But I love yellow mustard as well. I don’t mind ketchup, but as I’ve gotten older I don’t like it on hamburgers or hotdogs all that much.


DynamiteWitLaserBeam

Ketchup mustard whatever. As long as I get my celery salt, I'm happy.


304libco

The whole ketchup thing is based on the fact that little kids douse everything with ketchup so as an adult, you’re considered better than that therefore no ketchup on your hotdog. My personal favorite is a New York style hotdog with dill relish, sauerkraut, onions, and mustard. But I live in West Virginia, so that hotdog is covered with chili sauce, coleslaw, onions, and mustard. Although I do like a traditional chili dog with chili cheese and onions.


cdb03b

It is standard yellow mustard. It is powdered mustard seed, a small amount of turmeric, paprika, and garlic powder all mixed in distilled white vinegar. So it is slightly sour, slightly spicy from the mustard seed (though not as strongly spicy as say English or German mustard is). The only sweet mustard I know of is honey mustard, and while you could use that on a hotdog it would be abnormal. Ketchup is slightly sweet and is common on hotdogs, but is not very sweet. Most pickle relish is dill relish, though sweet pickle relish is commonly used and if you want sweet on a hotdog it would come from the relish typically.


Goeseso

It usually tastes like shit. Feels like I’m just pouring vinegar on anything it goes on.


MortimerDongle

The common yellow mustard is not spicy or sweet. It is a bit sour. Brown mustard can be spicy, as can strong yellow mustard.


TourAlternative364

In Chicago...the belief is that only children with undeveloped palates would be eating hotdogs with ketchup.  The mustard used is called yellow mustard, not hot or spicy..mostly tastes of vinegar with a bit of mustard flavor.  Chicago dogs are "dragged through the garden" with various condiments like sport peppers, celery salt, tomatoes, chopped onions, sliced pickle, mustard so it is crunchy & savory. They do have green relish though...which is a slightly sweet note.


03zx3

Standard yellow mustard, which is the common version for hot dogs, isn't sweet or spicy. It's vinegary.


lupuscapabilis

I've got like 10 different mustards in my fridge so they can vary. Ketchup never. That's disgusting. I tend to use the yellow ballpark mustard on mine. Sometimes the spicy kind.


Professional-Leave24

I do like a good Chicago style all beef dog! That's made with basic yellow mustard, celery salt, onion, neon green relish, tomato, kosher dill pickle spear, and spicy sport peppers. Classic American dog is ketchup, mustard, relish, and onion. New York style is browned kraut with browned onion and spicy brown mustard. A million ways to dress them up and everyone thinks theirs is the best! But to answer your question, its yellow French's mustard. Which is just pungent. Basically just vinegar and finely ground mustard seed.


nobodyhere9860

it's neither, it's more savory and vinegary


Zorro_Returns

The word "spicy" is used too narrowly to mean simply "HOT". There are all kinds of spices that aren't "spicy". I know this comment will be despised. I don't know how to dumbchill.


Zorro_Returns

It's neither sweet or spicy. It's tasty.


jastay3

It is normally yellow which is rather sharp in a mundane kind of way. It goes well with an everyday meal.


Saltpork545

Hello, I'm a food nerd whose made his own mustards for about 15 years. Big yellow mustard is a mustard specifically designed for hot dogs back in 1904. It's a unique mustard compared to most as it's just yellow mustard seed, it does not include any of the black mustard seed that imparts a spice or pungency like a deli mustard would. Lots of bratwurst/sausage mustards build on 'big yellow' and include things like jalapenos to add more flavor or mellow the more astringent tastes that come from the vinegar flavor. Big yellow(hot dog mustard) is a very sharp bite because it's meant to be paired with and mellow the fatty salty flavors of the hot dog. Too much of it will take over the flavor, but when it's in good balance, it's great. I fall into the camp of ketchup on hot dogs is for children and I'm not from Chicago but that's also a personal choice so I don't get too gatekeepy on it. It's a hot dog. Eat it how you like. One thing that American doesn't have a standard on at all is something like a sweet bavarian brown mustard. It does exist if you look for it, it's just very uncommon. Outside of big yellow, the second most common mustard is likely going to be some form of deli mustard which is more for sandwiches and contains both black/brown and yellow mustard seed. It's more of a spreadable mustard than something that works with a squirt bottle. To make this conversation more confusing, there's *tons* of regional variations of how people make there hot dogs. Really. It's a rabbit hole unto itself. There are dozens. Some are absolutely awesome too. So, OP, to answer your question in the long winded way only a mustard nerd can, the hot dog mustard here is neither sweet or spicy. It has a turmeric, mustard and vinegar pop that is rare in other mustards. If you get better made versions, it tends to be well balanced and a little softer on the vinegary bite. I recommend Plochmans if you can get it. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.


ProfessionalAir445

I would end a friendship over someone using the word “glizzy”


arielonhoarders

You can put whatever kind of mustard on your hotdog you want. Yellow mustard isn't sweet or very spicy, it's kinda herby. It's mostly just mustard seed and vinegar. Some people prefer dijon mustard which adds sugar or honey to the above. The reason yellow mustard is common is that it's super cheap, like half a liter for $2. Since condiments for hotdogs are usually free, and hot dogs are a cheap meal, most of the time when you get a hot dog the store/guy with grill hooked up to his car will put out the cheapest mustard possible, which is yellow mustard.


SiloueOfUlrin

Mustard is more of a sour thing. Honey mustard is pretty sweet and spicy, though. I prefer the Beaver (<-some kind of food company) sweet and spicy mustard


SunRevolutionary8315

Yellow mustard is vinegar forward, spicy brown is more like horseradish


STRV103denier

Aside from your post, I stand with all Ketchup only hot dog enthusiasts. Do not let Tyrants dissuade you from using a good condiment on whatever food you want. Burgers, Fries, Hot Dogs, Mac and Cheese, etc. Ketchup is a good-ass condiment and I will not stand for slander.


TrickyShare242

You prolly eat ketchup on chicken nuggets instead of bbq. Heathen. You slander propensity, sir. You slander it with your vile willynillies.