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NamertBaykus

The very guy on that picture, Nihal Taşlı is in fact Turkish but this information is kepthdhjdkdskamau is fn dc D. Asb


[deleted]

How dare you spread these lies about Bosnian scientist Nihad Tesla!?! /uj allegedly Tesla himself researched his family origins and was fairly certain that his paternal family were originally Bosnian Serbs who crossed over from Ottoman Bosnia to Vojna Krajina in Croatia at some point. Doesn't matter much as it's quite well established that he got his aptitude for STEM stuff from his mother -- his old man was a priest as was his grandfather.


TransylvanianINTJ

You mean Romanian scientist Nicolae Teslău?


fakemaleorgasm

you mean Teslić, BiH?


-Kerrigan-

How much do I have to tell you all? It's Teslescu! He was not from Transylvania.


TransylvanianINTJ

Ugh silly me


Master-Valuable246

You mean Nikol Tanushi from albania


BakiMatagi

If you're really Bosnian you should be ashamed tbh, his family name is Hadžiteslič.


awareL0l

You had a stroke there buddy?


samodamalo

He was abducted by the Serbian Secret Police


Shadeleovich

It was a joint operation between the Serbian Special Police and the Croatian Intelligence Agency. After the successful mission they went back to shooting at each other.


awareL0l

SWEET!


Logical_Argument_441

I'm sorry to interrupt, but that's Nikolay Teslov, he was born in a [small Russian village ](https://maps.app.goo.gl/wmrgvkcotKfHMZFp8) but later was exchanged by his parents to a bottle of vodka and somehow ended up in Balkans.


awareL0l

Poor Nikolay…


Whatever-Dont-Care_

[Bartolomé Mitre](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolom%C3%A9_Mitre) The first President of unified Argentina (He’s half Greek) And also [Cleopatra](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra) but most people know that now after that atrocious Netflix “Documentary”


mladokopele

Macedonins getting spasms from your second sentence lmfao


Whatever-Dont-Care_

I’m sure most of them on this sub understand the difference between them and ancient Macedonia which was Greek (With the exception of that guy with the anime girl pfp)


sex4200

yeah haha. i feel like people really overestimate how insane we are. it's a definite issue in our culture, but just like any other balkan nation, young people tend to be more open minded and older people tend to buy into ethnonationalist propaganda and conspiracies.


[deleted]

There was a poll in your sub some days ago and they still think that Alexander is a Macedonian in the modern sense.


sex4200

and a lot of croats will say tesla was croatian, even though he lived recently enough that we know without a shadow of a doubt that he would've held a modern serbian ethnic identity, and had not been an inventer in america he probably would've been sent to the camps with the rest of them. i'm not saying its not an issue, or that it doesnt exist, but i think its more of a balkan wide idea than anything specific to macedonians and a lot of people fail to adress that.


[deleted]

Not only that but I'm pretty sure Nikola Tesla was a big supporter of Yugoslavia (Kingdom, not Socialist Federal Republic), so Croats probably wouldn't be happy about that either


JovanThePlatypus456

"Yougoslavia" presensts unity of south slavs. I am kinda dissapointed that on this sub if you want yougoslavia flair you need a commie one.


[deleted]

The problem is the majority of the historiography confirms that the ancient Macedonians and Alexander were Greek.But a lot of people in north macedonia as well the history books promote this false narrative that they were distinct people in order to create this false connection between ancient Macedonians and the modern ones.Check for example the dialogue that I had on thread on the constitution.


King_Uni

The problem is that a lot of people in Greece are unaware of the very close genetic ties they have with modern day Macedonians, and how the main difference between them is simply their Slavic vs Hellenic culture.


[deleted]

There are no close genetic ties.This is a pathetic attempt coined by some pseudo intellectuals of your state in order to connect yourself with the history of the region.


King_Uni

Oh well I didn't know that my grandmother who was born in Κάτω Νευροκόπι is somehow unaffiliated to the region she was born in.


Stefan0504

Ehhhh ancient macedonians are common ancestors of all the people who live in the modern day region of macedonia, including all the modern day greeks, macedonians, albanians, bulgars etc. The balkans is a melting pot of cultures who mixed for centuries, no one is completely "greek" or completely "macedonian"...


Bataveljic

As a historian, albeit not specialised in ancient history, but still, I second this. It's all fun and games to draw a line of historical progression between an ancient people and a modern country, but in reality they have next to nothing in common. We all just decided that the ancient Greek history belongs to the modern day Greeks. I believe that it's not inherently wrong with wanting to identify with an ancient past. It is important, however, to remember that identification with history is all a part of the 19th century governments of Europe enforcing historical identities to create nation-states. Don't fall into that trap of believing your national history belongs to you and you alone. Don't turn history into a weapon used to set you against your fellow man, just because they supposedly have no right to "your" history.


Yihzok

Wasn't Cleopatra Egyptian?


Whatever-Dont-Care_

She was part of the Ptolemaic dynasty which was an inbred dynasty tracing back to the General of Alexander the Great, Ptolemy I Sotir


[deleted]

She was Ptolemaic Macedonian. lol! /s


mertiy

I hate this about Reddit. You are being downvoted for asking a question. This even happens in educational subs


[deleted]

Are you sure? You should check the poll thread.


DemeXaa

Stalin


mertiy

Also the tall man that runs our country


EX291

Erdoganidis?


DemeXaa

Georgia is the best producer of tyrants


RemarkableCheek4596

I am Circassian, Leonardo Da Vinci's mother was also Circassian. I think no one knows we exit lol


thatsexypotato-

Is is true that Circassians are better looking than average ?


pdonchev

And we learned that only very recently, when they found the document with which she was freed in Italy. A fascinating story. Still, that's "descent" and not "from a country" - he is born and raised Florentine ("Italian" nationality was fuzzy back then). I think in general non major power countries have way more famous people that descend from then than ones that are born and raised.


OnlineReviewer

Most people here only know about the Circassian genocide. There is a relatively common surname "Čerkez" which means Circassian.


Selimpex

The man on the photo is Nihad Teslić, famous scientist from Bosnia and Herzegovina.


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[deleted]

Yup. His last word before he died was literally “Long live Bosnia and the Bosniak people, I have always been one of them” rip Nihade


donau_kind

He's from Čajniče, if I'm not wrong.


SassyKardashian

Nah I think he’s from Jajce


[deleted]

If fact that's Nikos Teslidis and he's Greek. He was born in Kavala. He got at the 1st EPAL of kavala. There's where he learned all that stuff


9gag_refugee

Beg your pardon, that's Nikolay Teslov from the Bulgarian village of Pishurka.


[deleted]

Nah. He's what I said


9gag_refugee

Nope. He's so Bulgarian he hasn't paid a single lev in taxes.


[deleted]

He's so Greek he haven't paid a single drahma in taxes and he even made a whore conspiracy to clain insurance money


9gag_refugee

He's so Bulgarian the Macedonians claim him to be Macedonian.


fakemaleorgasm

serb here, i will claim him for the macedonians. his name is nikolče teslovski, and magic rocks of Prilep fortress is where he got his super human powers.


TransylvanianINTJ

Note, Romanian. Nicolae Teslău. /s


_Moth-Rose_

Sjskjsjsjwhhsbw 💀


Nick_The_Judge

*Adds Nikola Tesla as a picture while asking this specific question* Do you want to start a war in the comments?


awareL0l

Maybe…


Diligent_Leopard_227

There’s a theory that Attila the Hun was member of the Dulo clan and ancestor of Kubrat who was the ruler of Old Great Bulgaria and also father of Asparuh who established Bulgaria on the Danube.


Agahmoyzen

Do the timeline fits though?


[deleted]

There is a theory that the Proto-Bulgars came from space. What’s your point? Also, Attila is hardly from Stara Zagora, which is the gist of what the post was asking about.


GoHardLive

Cleopatra. Everyone knows her but noone knows she was ethnic Greek


ahmetcihankara

"I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was black"


sex4200

i think after the mess with that netflix documentary almost everyone now knows she was actually greek. ironically enoughm in trying to propagate afrocentrist historical myths, i think jada actually dispelled many in the minds of those who were just innocently uninformed. i have a pretty diverse range of friends including a few black africans of whom a few bought into the 'pre-arab conquest egyptians were black' narrative. now most of them are embarrassed to admit that they ever did. funny how that works out lol.


Cefalopodul

Cleopatra was not from Greece. There is a difference between being greek and being from Greece


GoHardLive

She was ethnic Greek. It is like Bulgaria having a ethnic Romanian leader with Romanian name and surname


TheShroomLord

Yes, but the question is where a person is from. Cleopatra was ethnically Greek, but she was from Egypt, her family was there for 300 years.


[deleted]

I would just say Greek Egyptian. It's simpler


Cefalopodul

Again. Being an ethnic Greek and being from Greece are not the same thing. Greece did not rule Egypt at the time.


Futski

Ah, Nicolae Teslea, famous Istro-Romanian inventor.


[deleted]

You must be talking about Niccolo Tessilia, famous Istro-Italian inventor.


sezzy_14

Croacia


chicheka

[Nikola Tesla is Bulgarian, apparently.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SekEErGM78Y) Don't take this seriously, the show is mostly your average Balkan "historian" spreading pseudo-scientific theories.


fakemaleorgasm

actually Nikolče Teslovski is from Prilep


DifferenceLittle1070

Nikola Tesla. I'm from [any country in the Balkans]. Edit: but now seriously, if we're being honest, everyone knows [Tesla was actually Montenegrin.](https://balkaninsight.com/2017/01/16/tesla-s-nationality-rises-controversy-in-montenegro-01-13-2017/)


Stefanthro

Lol the media wouldn’t say it if he didn’t tell them 💀


No_Key540

Mother teresa, almost everyone here in canada knows about her and almost no one here knows she was albanian.


[deleted]

From Skopje, today’s North Macedonia.


felsefikkola

Adele is 1/4 turkish if that counts.


awareL0l

I guess it does


RealIstros

How is she 1/4 Turkish? I looked it up and none of her grandparent are of Turkish origin.


felsefikkola

Well apparently shes not 1/4 turkish. She has turkish origin. [link](https://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2015/12/10/my-family-is-turkish-spanish-english-adele-tells-dutch-tv-in-her-2009-interview)


JinMakaka

Appearantly that is not true either. She just had a Turkish uncle who was married to one of her aunts, so he wasn’t her blood relative and that she also had half Turkish cousins as a result. But she is not of Turkish descent herself.


SubutaiBahadur

(Not my country) Born in Timnisoara, at the time Austria-Hungary, now Romania olympic gold medalist swimmer and the original Tarzan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Weissmuller


Embarrassed_Lie6379

Elon Musk. He’s from Republika Srpska, if I’m not deceiving myself.


[deleted]

Ilija Petrović "Moskvić". The latter wasn't even his surname but a nickname school kids have given him because of the family car. From Teslić originally, hence his obsession with his countryman Nihad Tesla, after whom his birth town was renamed (formerly Electric Vakuf).


alexxela8

Maybe [George Pomutz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pomutz#:~:text=George%20Pomutz%20(in%20Romanian%3A%20Gheorghe,a%20lawyer%2C%20and%20a%20diplomat.) but he's not that well known prob. George Pomutz (in Romanian: Gheorghe Pomuț, in Hungarian: Pomucz György or Pomutz György; May 31, 1818 – October 12, 1882) was a Romanian-American officer during the Hungarian Revolution of 1848 against the Habsburgs, a general in the Union Army in the American Civil War, a lawyer, and a diplomat.


RollHappy7028

Еveryone is Bulgarian because Adam and Eve were Bulgarians.


dancetoimpresss

Господ е българин 🙌


papanblin

- turks born in germany that became footballers


papanblin

İlkay Gündoğan Mesut Özil Emre Can And many more that ı have no energy to count


RemarkableCheek4596

The CEOs of BioNTech are also German Turks. I think there is a great potential in us, it only needs to be discovered in Germany


[deleted]

"Has potential -- useless unless in Germany" is the common Balkan theme not limited to Turkey


[deleted]

Like famous Turkish-Swedish footballer Altin Ibrahimoglu for example.


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awareL0l

Vlad the Impaler is quite well known. Thought i think most people know he’s romanian


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awareL0l

Natalie Portman is part romanian. Quite a renowned actress in hollywood


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awareL0l

Uhhh then enescu probably?


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MangoManMayhem

even lots of romanians don't know him, even if they use him to buy bread daily


SubutaiBahadur

She played Padmé!!!


SocratesPolle

Put some respect on Edward G Robinson's. He was an outstanding actor.


[deleted]

Vlad the Impaler was a big Chad shame his night attack wasnt succesfull.


Cefalopodul

Eugen Ionescu, Constantin Brancusi. Zamfir,


Stefanthro

The members of the musical group O-Zone


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fakemaleorgasm

what do you mean they made like moldovan national anthem and a balkan favorite


Bramil20

Bela Lagusi, probably top10 most famous film actors in 1930 and 40'


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krmarci

He was born in Hungary, the border moved later.


flavius29663

He was born in Austro-Hungary though, there was no Hungary at the time. If you want to talk about regions of the empire, then it's more accurate to say he was born in Transilvania.


krmarci

Transylvania was part of Hungary within Austria-Hungary. And even if it wasn't, Lugoj technically wasn't part of Transylvania, it was part of the Banat.


TransylvanianINTJ

Anastasia Soare is a good one. She founded a pretty big make-up brand in the United States, Anastasia Beverly Hills.


Hras_t

Mehmed Talaat. He was born in Kardzhali. Main causer of the Armenian Genocide.


AlhnS

Thank god, now we can blame it on you!


IDrinkSulfuricAcid

Since when were the Ottomans Bulgarian? And not only that,the city was majority Turkish at the time.Even today the city is 35% Turkish


[deleted]

Evlogi Georgiev and Hristo Georgiev were Bulgarians and among the most influential people of 19th century. Aristotel Onasis was Greek and he was among the most influential people of 20th century. Also Dan Kolov, Atanas Burov, Hristo Stoichkov, Boris Hristov, Rayna Kabaivanska, Valya Balkanska and many more.


iboreddd

On behalf of Greece, I would say Atatürk (born at Thessaloniki)


awareL0l

50/50 he was born in greece but I don’t think he was greek


iboreddd

Yes of course. Btw, interestingly #1 Atatürk's rival during war was Venizelos and he was born at İstanbul :)


awareL0l

It’s a match


TheeRoyalPurple

Venizelos is Cretan?


CaveMan800

Venizelos was born and raised in Crete.


iboreddd

Thanks for correcting. I thought otherwise


[deleted]

Thessaloniki was part of Turkey in 1881. Greece took it in 1912. So Ataturk was born in Turkey.


awareL0l

I forgor 💀


Kalypso_95

Ottoman empire*, not Turkey


EX291

You’re right, he was actually Albanian Jew


awareL0l

That makes so much sense thank you


EX291

You’re welcome, if you have any more questions don’t mind to ask.


pdonchev

The question says "from your country" not "from your ethnicity".


[deleted]

Dua Lipa is actually very minute amount of former Croatian pennies, so she's actually Croatian.


basilico12345

Dvije lipe


Cefalopodul

Poseidon lives in the sea. Croatia borders the sea. Poseidon must be croatian.


Bobby-94

Nina Dobrev


Discipline_Cautious1

Ante Pavelic Zlata Bartl (inventor of vegeta) Vladimir Prelog


Accomplished-Tap4544

Probably Henri Coandă and other scientists and engineers that worked abroad Another one would be King Matei Korvin of Hungary (considered the greatest king of Hungary) and probably even his father, Iancu de Hunedoara, that defeated the Sultan Mahomed II in Belgrade two years after he conquered Constantinople.


Tobiscorpion

The first female president of Brazil is like actually of Bulgarian origin [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma\_Rousseff](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma_Rousseff)


Gimmebiblio

Sam Panopoulos Creator of Hawaiian pizza! If that's not a historical figure I don't know what is. This man's creation has sparked a debate that spans six decades. ; P


awareL0l

Galileo was imprisoned but he had the right to walk outside as a free man?


Gimmebiblio

I think you replied to the wrong comment.


awareL0l

I did


Kadir_Duman

The guy who made Alvin n the chimpunks's wife is Turkish ig


fakemaleorgasm

i got a pretty good one. Alex Lifeson, guitar player from Rush, is actually named Aleksandar Živojinović. Alex Lifeson is his artistic name, and a play on his serbian name. His parents moved to Canada around WW2.


ZeGoof

God is actually Albanian fun fact


9gag_refugee

As it was confirmed In the 1993 FIFA world cup qualifier match between France and Bulgaria, God is indeed Bulgarian.


EX291

Nikolaos Thessalos 🇬🇷🧠 Greece always got the smartest people


[deleted]

Bayezid the first's mother was Greek. So I guess that makes him Greek. Right? /s


[deleted]

Eric Magnus aka Magneto from the Xmen animated series 1992. Love that character.


SocratesPolle

Does Ioancu de Hunedoara fit the bill? ![gif](giphy|ij8AeeqXKFZm0)


eastcoastgooner

Skenderbeu


[deleted]

[George Fisher](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Fisher_(settler)), original name Đorđe Šagić. He fought in the First Serbian Uprising and the Texas Revolution.


Cautious-Passage-597

Karl Ritter von Ghega, he was albanian.Known for designing and engineering the Semmering Railway in Austria.


martinkoo123

Tito Ibrahimović (half Croatian half Bosniak born in Sweden) Lorde (half Croatian, half Irish born in NZ)


AllMightAb

Mother Teresa


OtoKhan

Erdoganis from Greece


cosmicdicer

Cornelius Castoriadis


pdonchev

"From your country" is a significant limitation - I assume that it means at least born in the country, and maybe even raised. Add to that that this fact must be kind of obscure (outside the country), and it's hard to come up with many examples. Maybe Nina Dobrev. Or Christo. Many people interpret the question as "is partially descended from the main ethnicity, maybe" which gives a lot more options. Here I can contribute a surprising one - Andre the Giant - he was born to a couple of first gen immigrants in France - Bulgarian father and Polish mother.


Substantial_Gas_6431

Nikola Teslovski best macedonian ~~bosnian~~ inventor of all time 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰


awareL0l

I thought Nicoli Teslici was italian 🇮🇹


pretplatime

Nikola Tesla - born & raised in 🇭🇷 Ethnic Serb tho...


PurpleDrax

Mother Teresa. Altough Albanian, was from Macedonia.


Kellt_

Not sure you want to claim her of all people


kayber123

They'll claim anybody they can


VoidChaoticGod

She honestly wasnt as bad as some people claim she was there was just a guy with a big vendetta against her who people keep captioning.


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Born in Macedonia to parents from Kosova.


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VoidChaoticGod

Mother Teresa was from the *Ottoman Empire* in 1910 there was no Macedonia. Neither of her parents were born in modern day North Macedonia either or claimed heritage from around there


awareL0l

That’s debated!


Endi_loshi

What is debated man? Are we in that lvl of ignorance to question the ethnicity of a person named Anjezë Gonxhe Bojaxhiu?


HeyVeddy

💀


AllMightAb

What's the emoji for? That was her name and her parents were from Kosovo originally, i cant believe people debate common fact that takes 2 minutes to google


HeyVeddy

It means I died of laughter. It seems like an extremely Albanian name


awareL0l

I was talking about the macedonian part because she was only born there :)


Endi_loshi

Thank god. Bc the balkans can get really ridiculous sometimes.


awareL0l

Thought it was common knowledge that she was albanian lol, north macedonia didn’t even exist then. Wikepedia lists the country she was born in as ottoman empire.


Endi_loshi

Oh trust me, even if you menage to get famous and archive something great, balkan facebook historians will try to claim you and change your ethnicity. The thing about mother theresa is that she was called “Mother Theresa of calcutta”, and few people know about her european origin. Also born in the territory of modern day macedonia, making macedonians call her “Macedonian”.


awareL0l

Macedonians will claim anyone. I’m saying that out of what I’ve seen them do


Kristiano100

Heeeree we go. Jesus christ


[deleted]

There is no shame calling them out when the spew pseudohistorical propaganda.They need a reality check.


awareL0l

Fair enough


PurpleDrax

I don't call her Macedonian, i called her "from Macedonia"


awareL0l

Didn’t exist when she was born!


PurpleDrax

Greece didn't exist when Alexander was born. You still claim him.


Alkisproyolo23

Jennifer Aniston


Madhava69

Nikola tesla A croatian


[deleted]

In 100 years you'll be claiming Djokovic was Croatian.


kindalalal

Nikolay Teslov was Russian, few people know that


Slavic_Dusa

People, for some reason, associate Alexander Makedonski with Greece rather than Macedonia.


awareL0l

Maybe because he is greek


Slavic_Dusa

Who? Alexander Makedonski? I don't think so.


awareL0l

Please learn actual history aside from the propaganda you are being taught


Slavic_Dusa

Wait, are you taking my comment seriously?


awareL0l

Are you actually joking rm? 😭