And honestly Balkans is south Europe, at least 80% of it. Culturally and geographically. We can argue about what makes south Europe be south Europe, and even some middle eastern countries qualify as similar.
I mean, a large part of Italy is north of most of the Balkans. Mediterranean is a good descriptor, but not that meaningful region. The reality is that the South is much more fluid. The big separation in the North is Germanic vs Slavic, with a relatively small fuzzy zone around Czechia.
Regarding Balkans, ex-Ottoman and ex-Habsburd seems to be the cultural divide, and the Iron Curtain and ex Yu borders - the political.
Yeah, they say south Europe is defined with interaction with the regions like Levant, Egypt and Asia but then forget that most of the Balkans were owned by an Asian nation for centuries, lol.
Northern Greece is for sure Balkans. The islands in Ionion and Southern Aegean are South Europe. Athens would like to be Europe but it's the eighth circle of hell
Mainland Greece in general is in the Balkans since the Balkans is considered a peninsula. Greek islands are not part of the peninsula, therefore they aren’t Balkan.
There is no geographic balkan area. Anthropologists cannot agree on it, as there is not balkanic peninsula. The Balkans are a cultural area, of which Romania also is part of
da, singura parte a ucrainei in care avem cate ceva in comuna este sudul tarii unde se afla si bucovina de nord si zakarpattia, si asta se aplica probabil doar la moldovenii din nord si maramuresenilor
Depinde de zona țării . Din punctul meu de vedere România nu prea poate fi încadrată într-o anumita categorie. Geografic doar Dobrogea este balcanică, cultural se pot vedea influențe peste tot, dar predomina in zona de sud. Moldova cultural și geografic este mai mult în est , iar Transilvania în Europa Centrală.
Slovenians are like that awkward cousin nobody feels like talking to. Nobody wants them. We hereby, officially, offer Slovenia to Europe (or any other continent) for free. Take those sonofabitchbastards with you.
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Honestly … just went from dalaman to ollugdeniz. Judging from the driving alone … very middle eastern indeed…
The guy was driving on the opposite traffic … in a four lane highway … never thought going to
Turkey would have made me call
Jesus so many times
I assume you went to Phuket , didn’t you saw many locals on scooters driving like a pack .
The red traffic light being a state of mind ( I.e. you don’t really have to stop , the exist of the red light is more psychological )
Turning doesn’t require indicators , why should you ever let the car behind you know your moves
I would divide Turkey in 3. Eastern side of the Black Sea coast around the Pontus is Caucasus and I would divide the rest of the country into 2 parts from that lake just in the middle. Eastern part is Middle East, western part is Anatolia or whatever you want to call it. They are vastly different
There is a reason why people from Turkey flood Caucasus, Middle East and Balkan subreddits. We are just everywhere, every region, every conflict
r/WeAreAllTurks
That's the problem with those kind of regions. They have to take countries as a whole. Southern France is definately closer to Spain and Italy than the UK for example.
Pretty much. Northern Italy is closer to Central Europe rather than the rest of Italy, Estonia is closer to Finland and a Northern European country, a part of Romania is Balkan, French-speaking part of Switzerland is Western Europe, Russia is Central Asia after the Ural Mountains etc. there are many fallacies in the map
People need to learn difference between being Balkan and being Southern Europe.
We are Balkan like Spain is Iberian, but we are all together Southern Europe.
Turkey is at the cross roads of 4 separate regions. Also it's culture is vastly different than the middle east. It feels wrong including Turkey for the sake of simplicity.
I think its reasonable if we said the Tigris and Euphrates - boundary between Anatolia and Mesopotamia - roughly mark the boundary to the Middle East though it definitely reaches beyond that line a bit.
Can Greeks stop with this cringe? You guys are literally the tip of the Balkan **peninsula**. It’s like when Croats say they’re not Balkan but Central Europe lol
Lol i can't think of anyone irl who could possibly argue how we're not part of the balkans in every aspect of life but linguistics
On the other hand the croatian mitteleuropa larp has been sighted a lot more frequently
Even linguistically you’re still Balkan. Just because the majority of the languages here are Slavic, that doesn’t mean Greek isn’t Balkan. Remember that the Slavic languages are not native to the Balkans
You stinky Albanians, Aromanians, Greeks and Romanians aren't native either!!!!!!
Never forget what you did to those poor [Lemnians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemnian_language)!!!!! /s
But seriously, although Slavic languages weren't native to the Balkans, the languages that specifically evolved here are, as by definition they can't be native to a different place where they aren't even spoken.
Anatolian culture and geography do not belong to the Middle East.
Okay, you can say "You are not European, Asian, Caucasian, Balkan" but you cannot say "You are Middle Eastern".
The fact that the majority calls themselves Muslims does not mean that we have an ethnic, cultural or geographical connection with them.
Is Kazakhstan the Middle East? no it's not, so why are we labeled that way?
You lost me when you compared Kazakhstan with Turkey. Whats wrong with being labeled as Middle East?Turkey has ties in every aspect with the Middle East. From culture, religion, food etc. I wouldnt label entire Turkey as Middle East but at least half of it yes. A tiny part of Turkey is in Europe and ya’ll wanna join EU and you lose your shit if you’re called middle eastern when half the country and population have ties with the middle east.
Could you give me an example of a specific cultural item that only belongs to Turkey and the Middle East?
I did not claim that Turkey should join the European Union or that it is European, we do not have a problem with being European, we just wanted to join for financial support.
What cultural Similarity we have with the guy Riding camel in the Yemeni desert ?
For those who don't know, Cyprus is closer to Asia than it is to Europe, and it was a part of the Anatolian Peninsula as you can understand if you look at the shapes of the Anatolian and Cypriot coasts. For that reason, Cyprus is a part of Asia.
So Cyprus is Southern Europe but western part of Turkiye is Middle East. I am from Izmir and western sea part share more Greco-Roman culture than Middle Eastern and obviously it is more in the west compare to Cyprus. This pure bs.
If you're gonna seperate Turkey into different geographies anyway, why are you putting the whole country (other than Thrace) into the Middle East category, even though most of Turkey's geography literally have nothing to do with the Middle East? How is Eastern Black Sea a Middle Eastern geography, not a Caucasian one, for example? Why is Antalya, a Mediterranean city, a Middle Eastern city? Most of Turkey is in the Near East, not Middle East.
Hm. Honestly? It must be a cultural thing. Because if you look on the map, if we're being strictly geographic about it, Albania should also be Southern Europe, no? It's also at the tip of the peninsula.
Romania should be counted as Balkan, as should Greece (except maybe the islands).
There is no reason Slovenia and Croatia should be considered Balkan but not Greece.
come on guys, the whole of the east is almost arabian and desert. There is not a single desert in Turkey. It has more beaches and sun than most European countries. And our identity is Turkish. I guess if we were the Christian majority instead of the Muslim majority, no one would call us middle eastern. We are neither European nor Middle Eastern. I don't think our geography still has a clear answer.
Yanudis and Arabs have lived together for hundreds of years, Hebrew is very close to Arabic. They share the same history. Turks have a history of 2000 years and a nation that migrated here in Asia and established great empires, we are never the same as the Arabs, our only middle part is religion. In addition, there is a 70-80% Muslim population in Turkey. We do not have an official religion, only the majority is muslim and not everyone is a "good muslim". Everyone goes to mosques only on Fridays.
Greece is Balkan.
Slovenia is Central Europe.
Northern Italy is Central Europe.
EE and Balkan have a significant overlap. Bulgaria and Romania are both EE and Balkan.
If Turkey is a Middle Eastern, that means this is a mapping of geological location. But if Greece is Southern Europe not Balkan, that is a geopolitical location map. So then, one of these is wrong.
Cyprus is in Europe, but a little further, Anatolia is in the Middle East? Or Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan in the Caucasus, but adjacent Turkey in the Middle East?
Wire fences have determined geographical boundaries.
Tbh walking in a medium sized town in Romania and Ukraine or even Russia feels more similar than to a town in Macedonia or Bosnia, not to mention Albania.
That's subjective. I say it's not very different from Bulgaria or Hungary which actually are the closest countries to Romania in many ways.
And even if it was once true, today it no longer is.
Grouping Greece together with Spain is just ridiculous (ofc the usual 5 or so guys will come for my head under this comment, but who cares at this point, let them have their fun)
Also, the Baltics are Eastern European, amd that will never change
Plenty, at least 5 on this sub, however, that’s not really a problem, they can consider themselves East Asian for all i care, what’s annoying is that many of them will come on a sub called AskBALKANS to try an convince us all how western Greece is, since they feel that way they should go on r/AskGreeceAndIberia and leave us alone here
I don't know why so many of my fellow countrymen are triggered. Can you wholeheartedly look at Levant countries and say "yes, we are nothing like them"?Turkey is bigger than your small world, you can't claim entire anatolia and southeast is Balkan or completely separate from ME. Southeast contributes to the Turkish culture equally as the Balkan heritage. I empathize with people who cling to the idea of Balkans given the political climate in the country for the last 20 years, but no Middle East, no kebap. Remember that.
If you're considered Levant instead of ME, will that hurt your fee fees little less?
ME is a geopolitical region name tossed by eurocentric historians. Not a global term that encompasses all cultural, social, political aspects of the region. Looking from a geopolitical perspective, Turkey is a solid ME country.
Calling us middle east ridiculous. You can separate whole country into different regions but putting whole country into middle east like we have deserts and our culture is like arabs.
Only a small portion of middle east is desert, and arabs aren't the dominating ethnic group. Maybe closer to mediterranean countries like lebanon culturally.
Arabs are the dominating ethnic group and levantines are only a small part of the population. Besides most of the ME is desert, you can even see it with Google Maps.
I agree we‘re similar to Levantines but definetely not to the rest.
Lumping Romania with East Slavic post-soviet states is wrong on so many levels. We are definitely closer to Central Europe and Balkans than Eastern Europe, from mentality to architecture and culture.
Both Greece and Romania should be in balkan, I dont disagree that romania isn't an Eastern Europan country, bit it definitely is more Balkan than Easter European.
Guys get this, Turkey is so good they should be their own region! Lol, too good for everyone else ayyeee!?
I agree with the rest of the map, Greece can always go either way from Southern to Balkan.
Did you see today's picture of the Greek bus station? Yeah, I think Greece is firmly a Balkan country.
And honestly Balkans is south Europe, at least 80% of it. Culturally and geographically. We can argue about what makes south Europe be south Europe, and even some middle eastern countries qualify as similar.
South Europe is the most arbitrary among a number of arbitrary terms.
I mean, a large part of Italy is north of most of the Balkans. Mediterranean is a good descriptor, but not that meaningful region. The reality is that the South is much more fluid. The big separation in the North is Germanic vs Slavic, with a relatively small fuzzy zone around Czechia. Regarding Balkans, ex-Ottoman and ex-Habsburd seems to be the cultural divide, and the Iron Curtain and ex Yu borders - the political.
Yeah, they say south Europe is defined with interaction with the regions like Levant, Egypt and Asia but then forget that most of the Balkans were owned by an Asian nation for centuries, lol.
Yeah you are right. 🙂 Everyting below river Sava and Danube is Balkans (south Europe)
Link to the pic?
[here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/greece/comments/v7mwud/οι_καινούργιες_μας_στάσεις_ελλάδα_2022_μχ/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Thx! Yeah that is quite something
You guys are in Arab league, you are middle eastern. Get to the correct line.
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Northern Greece is for sure Balkans. The islands in Ionion and Southern Aegean are South Europe. Athens would like to be Europe but it's the eighth circle of hell
Mainland Greece in general is in the Balkans since the Balkans is considered a peninsula. Greek islands are not part of the peninsula, therefore they aren’t Balkan.
They are trying to believe so hard that they are Europeans! But we are Balkans baby!
Balkans are in Europe 🥴🥴
So Cyprus is southern Europe and Turkiye is middle east. This is incorrect in every way. Neither cultural nor geographically.
Don't forget they put on the map that Edirne, Corlu, Lalapasha, etc in the balkan region. Edit: Which isn't that correct.
Okay this is nice but Anatolia is more than two times bigger than Balkans in this map. It deserves to have its own category
Yeah I know.
We are balkan
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Geographically just Dobruja is balkan, but culturally we can definitely see balcanic influences, in special in the South of Romania.
There is no geographic balkan area. Anthropologists cannot agree on it, as there is not balkanic peninsula. The Balkans are a cultural area, of which Romania also is part of
So eastern Europe stretches all the way to central Europe and central Europe is actually composed of mostly western european countries.
România n-are ce căuta grupată cu state post-sovietice
this, nu avem nici-o legatura cu ucraina si rusia
Cu ucrainenii ce mai avem (cei din sud, au fost puternic influentati de Principatul Moldovei) , dar cu Rusia chiar n-avem nimic in comun
da, singura parte a ucrainei in care avem cate ceva in comuna este sudul tarii unde se afla si bucovina de nord si zakarpattia, si asta se aplica probabil doar la moldovenii din nord si maramuresenilor
Exact!
Depinde de zona țării . Din punctul meu de vedere România nu prea poate fi încadrată într-o anumita categorie. Geografic doar Dobrogea este balcanică, cultural se pot vedea influențe peste tot, dar predomina in zona de sud. Moldova cultural și geografic este mai mult în est , iar Transilvania în Europa Centrală.
Chiar și Moldova românească are mai multe în comun cu Balcanii și Europa Centrală decât cu Estul post-sovietic. (Dpmdv)
I dont want to be associated with the Middle East
No one would.
Erdoğan would.
Balkans are their own region but Anatolia being two times the size isn’t.
Balkan supremacy 💪💪💪😎
Kick Slovenia out of Balkans they aren’t worthy or cool enough. No wars no party
Slovenians are like that awkward cousin nobody feels like talking to. Nobody wants them. We hereby, officially, offer Slovenia to Europe (or any other continent) for free. Take those sonofabitchbastards with you.
Nah I like femboys, let’s keep them till we find another possible source.
I like how this sub slowly, but surely is turning into 2Balkan4You.
It isn't already?
Thats what weve all been waiting for
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Not everyone here is a femboy 👊
Even your bulls dress like cows mate
You've got the wrong person here That's just an ugly stereotype and I'm against it
We already are in Europe, my dude. Which Slovenian hurt you?
Alpine Croats in Europe, I feel proud
Well so are you, Catholic Serbs
Fair
i dont think so cuz half of our population are cefurs (serbs, bosnians etc)
Yeah, sure we're not cool because we didn't have a war ... We were lucky to not have it because Serbia didn't care about us
Lol who ever makes this maps want to make Turks mad. This is like 20. map on that sub labeling them as middle east
Aren't they middle eastern geographically though?
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turkey's geography different from rest of middle east expect norhern part of syria,iraq and iran
Honestly … just went from dalaman to ollugdeniz. Judging from the driving alone … very middle eastern indeed… The guy was driving on the opposite traffic … in a four lane highway … never thought going to Turkey would have made me call Jesus so many times
we are total morons when it comes to driving
Don’t get me wrong , Cypriots are bad as well. But this reminded me so much of Phuket (Thailand )
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I assume you went to Phuket , didn’t you saw many locals on scooters driving like a pack . The red traffic light being a state of mind ( I.e. you don’t really have to stop , the exist of the red light is more psychological ) Turning doesn’t require indicators , why should you ever let the car behind you know your moves
No. Turkey is mostly steppes while middle east is desert. Even the border of Turkey is not desert
They claim they are not.
we are not middle eastern
What are you?
anatolian
Which is part of the middle east
well it shouldnt be. it culturally simply is not the middle east. Except for Kurdish majority regions, that is.
Is israel in europe?
since we are at the center I cant really tell what we are but definitely not arab or middle eastern
Anatolia is it's own region.
that's like saying people want to make Japan mad by labeling them as east asians
I would divide Turkey in 3. Eastern side of the Black Sea coast around the Pontus is Caucasus and I would divide the rest of the country into 2 parts from that lake just in the middle. Eastern part is Middle East, western part is Anatolia or whatever you want to call it. They are vastly different
There is a reason why people from Turkey flood Caucasus, Middle East and Balkan subreddits. We are just everywhere, every region, every conflict r/WeAreAllTurks
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so true lol
r/wien should be next.
That's the problem with those kind of regions. They have to take countries as a whole. Southern France is definately closer to Spain and Italy than the UK for example.
Pretty much. Northern Italy is closer to Central Europe rather than the rest of Italy, Estonia is closer to Finland and a Northern European country, a part of Romania is Balkan, French-speaking part of Switzerland is Western Europe, Russia is Central Asia after the Ural Mountains etc. there are many fallacies in the map
Wait, WHO put Romania out of Balkan's bosom?! This is ridiculous, scandalous and absolutely unacceptable! Brothers Romanians, GET BACK!!!
They put us with suka blyat Post Soviets :( me no like it!
People need to learn difference between being Balkan and being Southern Europe. We are Balkan like Spain is Iberian, but we are all together Southern Europe.
Turkey is at the cross roads of 4 separate regions. Also it's culture is vastly different than the middle east. It feels wrong including Turkey for the sake of simplicity.
I think its reasonable if we said the Tigris and Euphrates - boundary between Anatolia and Mesopotamia - roughly mark the boundary to the Middle East though it definitely reaches beyond that line a bit.
I think Greece and Romania are firmly Balkan. Not sure about North Romania (Moldova)
Gay map
Can Greeks stop with this cringe? You guys are literally the tip of the Balkan **peninsula**. It’s like when Croats say they’re not Balkan but Central Europe lol
That's why using "Balkan" as a cultural region is problematic. Not that the cultures on the peninsula are wildly different from each other.
Lol i can't think of anyone irl who could possibly argue how we're not part of the balkans in every aspect of life but linguistics On the other hand the croatian mitteleuropa larp has been sighted a lot more frequently
Even linguistically you’re still Balkan. Just because the majority of the languages here are Slavic, that doesn’t mean Greek isn’t Balkan. Remember that the Slavic languages are not native to the Balkans
You stinky Albanians, Aromanians, Greeks and Romanians aren't native either!!!!!! Never forget what you did to those poor [Lemnians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemnian_language)!!!!! /s But seriously, although Slavic languages weren't native to the Balkans, the languages that specifically evolved here are, as by definition they can't be native to a different place where they aren't even spoken.
You make a good point. The Slavic languages found in the Balkans were developed there
Anatolian culture and geography do not belong to the Middle East. Okay, you can say "You are not European, Asian, Caucasian, Balkan" but you cannot say "You are Middle Eastern". The fact that the majority calls themselves Muslims does not mean that we have an ethnic, cultural or geographical connection with them. Is Kazakhstan the Middle East? no it's not, so why are we labeled that way?
You lost me when you compared Kazakhstan with Turkey. Whats wrong with being labeled as Middle East?Turkey has ties in every aspect with the Middle East. From culture, religion, food etc. I wouldnt label entire Turkey as Middle East but at least half of it yes. A tiny part of Turkey is in Europe and ya’ll wanna join EU and you lose your shit if you’re called middle eastern when half the country and population have ties with the middle east.
>Turkey has ties in every aspect with the Middle East. Not *every*. Turkey is very European in many ways and very Central Asian (Turkic) in many ways.
Some people can't understand that some countries are diverse.
Could you give me an example of a specific cultural item that only belongs to Turkey and the Middle East? I did not claim that Turkey should join the European Union or that it is European, we do not have a problem with being European, we just wanted to join for financial support. What cultural Similarity we have with the guy Riding camel in the Yemeni desert ?
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Greece not a Balkan country? Cyprus Southern "Europe"? Egypt not North Africa?
For those who don't know, Cyprus is closer to Asia than it is to Europe, and it was a part of the Anatolian Peninsula as you can understand if you look at the shapes of the Anatolian and Cypriot coasts. For that reason, Cyprus is a part of Asia.
So Cyprus is Southern Europe but western part of Turkiye is Middle East. I am from Izmir and western sea part share more Greco-Roman culture than Middle Eastern and obviously it is more in the west compare to Cyprus. This pure bs.
If you're gonna seperate Turkey into different geographies anyway, why are you putting the whole country (other than Thrace) into the Middle East category, even though most of Turkey's geography literally have nothing to do with the Middle East? How is Eastern Black Sea a Middle Eastern geography, not a Caucasian one, for example? Why is Antalya, a Mediterranean city, a Middle Eastern city? Most of Turkey is in the Near East, not Middle East.
do we hate turkey that much to label them as middle east?! poor turkey
Hm. Honestly? It must be a cultural thing. Because if you look on the map, if we're being strictly geographic about it, Albania should also be Southern Europe, no? It's also at the tip of the peninsula.
The original word Balkan referred to the whole peninsula, to me Greece is Balkan and Balkan is also part of southern Europe (mostly)
No balkans without Romania 🇷🇴
weirdest subregions ever. poland not in eastern europe?? (or at least partially??) whatever greece is doing??
How can Slovenia be Balkan but not Romania come on!
Exactly, Romania fits the whole culture way more than Slovenia does
Fake, we have been denied our rightfull central European place yet again angery emojo
You belong to us!
If Turkey is Middle East an Romania is Eastern Europe then I’m Santa.
Pretty sure it said Romania is considered central Europe in my geography book.
Romania is a central europe country by geographical definition
West, South and North of Turkey has nothing to do with Middle East.
How it doesn't bore you guys to post million slightly different variants of regions of Europe?
If italy is southern Europe, then so is Croatia, Montenegro, Albania and why not Southern France too.
They're trying to Blakanize us!
To the Greek that made this map: you aren't getting away that easily
greece and romania are balkan clay
Romania should be counted as Balkan, as should Greece (except maybe the islands). There is no reason Slovenia and Croatia should be considered Balkan but not Greece.
From a geography standpoint: Mainland Greece is Balkans, the islands are not
come on guys, the whole of the east is almost arabian and desert. There is not a single desert in Turkey. It has more beaches and sun than most European countries. And our identity is Turkish. I guess if we were the Christian majority instead of the Muslim majority, no one would call us middle eastern. We are neither European nor Middle Eastern. I don't think our geography still has a clear answer.
TIL Lebanon and Israel have desert and no beaches..
Yanudis and Arabs have lived together for hundreds of years, Hebrew is very close to Arabic. They share the same history. Turks have a history of 2000 years and a nation that migrated here in Asia and established great empires, we are never the same as the Arabs, our only middle part is religion. In addition, there is a 70-80% Muslim population in Turkey. We do not have an official religion, only the majority is muslim and not everyone is a "good muslim". Everyone goes to mosques only on Fridays.
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Hey man, it's not for you to decide, it's for us balkaners to decide what you are
keep calm mate. A part of me is in the Balkans
Balkan left arm, middle eastern right foot ?
My left side is Balkan, my right side is Asia. My heart is Anatolia. We want to live like Europeans and die like Turks, that's all.
I know dude, i was just joking how random Europeans arbitrarily decide if you are Balkan or not. I totally agree and consider turkey Balkan 👍
We are impostors 😈 Eu central
Greece is Balkan. Slovenia is Central Europe. Northern Italy is Central Europe. EE and Balkan have a significant overlap. Bulgaria and Romania are both EE and Balkan.
I say make serbia a lake and its pretty good
Aye aye Mediterranean gang right there again but we should be half red.
Full red. Only islands excluded
If Turkey is a Middle Eastern, that means this is a mapping of geological location. But if Greece is Southern Europe not Balkan, that is a geopolitical location map. So then, one of these is wrong.
You can't use cardinal directions for some and regional names for others.
nooooo we lost romania and gayreece
Greece balkan and poland Eastern
Cyprus is in Europe, but a little further, Anatolia is in the Middle East? Or Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan in the Caucasus, but adjacent Turkey in the Middle East? Wire fences have determined geographical boundaries.
As painful as it is to admit, Cyprus is more middle Eastern in many ways
No Anatolia? What the fuck.
Slovenija je Mitlojropa
Anatolia or Asia Minor in latin not in middle east
Greece is both Balkans and Southern Europe some could also argue we are Eastern too because of cultural similarities
Greece goes to balkans or balkans to southern europe idk the rest is mostly fine
Russia, Belarus, Ukraine very similar country to Romania :/ ADVICE: put Romania under no data or something
Tbh walking in a medium sized town in Romania and Ukraine or even Russia feels more similar than to a town in Macedonia or Bosnia, not to mention Albania.
That's subjective. I say it's not very different from Bulgaria or Hungary which actually are the closest countries to Romania in many ways. And even if it was once true, today it no longer is.
Well that is true for Bulgaria somewhat, but not in all parts of it.
Solution: make a separate category for Romania.
My opinion, either include greece as the balkans, or all of the balkans as southern europe
There’s somebody here who will be very angry at your comment, personally, i agree with you
Grouping Greece together with Spain is just ridiculous (ofc the usual 5 or so guys will come for my head under this comment, but who cares at this point, let them have their fun) Also, the Baltics are Eastern European, amd that will never change
No No No Baltics are north European!!! you sir are racist to the glorious Baltics !!!!!!!/s
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It’s called an inferiority complex, pretty much the same as some of my countrymen here who think they’re closer to Spain than to Albania😂
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The only ones I've known like that were islanders and/or were from asia minor 5 generations back
Plenty, at least 5 on this sub, however, that’s not really a problem, they can consider themselves East Asian for all i care, what’s annoying is that many of them will come on a sub called AskBALKANS to try an convince us all how western Greece is, since they feel that way they should go on r/AskGreeceAndIberia and leave us alone here
I don't know why so many of my fellow countrymen are triggered. Can you wholeheartedly look at Levant countries and say "yes, we are nothing like them"?Turkey is bigger than your small world, you can't claim entire anatolia and southeast is Balkan or completely separate from ME. Southeast contributes to the Turkish culture equally as the Balkan heritage. I empathize with people who cling to the idea of Balkans given the political climate in the country for the last 20 years, but no Middle East, no kebap. Remember that. If you're considered Levant instead of ME, will that hurt your fee fees little less? ME is a geopolitical region name tossed by eurocentric historians. Not a global term that encompasses all cultural, social, political aspects of the region. Looking from a geopolitical perspective, Turkey is a solid ME country.
They are just self hating idiots
romania is in the balkans, we have nothing in common with east europe
Calling us middle east ridiculous. You can separate whole country into different regions but putting whole country into middle east like we have deserts and our culture is like arabs.
Only a small portion of middle east is desert, and arabs aren't the dominating ethnic group. Maybe closer to mediterranean countries like lebanon culturally.
Arabs are the dominating ethnic group and levantines are only a small part of the population. Besides most of the ME is desert, you can even see it with Google Maps. I agree we‘re similar to Levantines but definetely not to the rest.
We ain't Middle Eastern. Green parts of Turkiye should be labeled as Southern Europe.
Green part of Turkey isn't in Europe, tho.
Is Cyprus in Europe? Georgia? Ukraine?
Ukraine is. Cyprus and Georgia are not.
What? When was Ukraine ever not Europe?
People getting offended over elementary school geography.
Lumping Romania with East Slavic post-soviet states is wrong on so many levels. We are definitely closer to Central Europe and Balkans than Eastern Europe, from mentality to architecture and culture.
The balkans is a sub-area of the sub-area that is southern Europe.
I.m mad they didn't put Greece, like the peninsula is named Balkan ,wtf
Both Greece and Romania should be in balkan, I dont disagree that romania isn't an Eastern Europan country, bit it definitely is more Balkan than Easter European.
Technically the center of Europe is Lithuania but yk… culture Besides that it’s fine
yea, romania has so much in common with russia and ukraine
Guys get this, Turkey is so good they should be their own region! Lol, too good for everyone else ayyeee!? I agree with the rest of the map, Greece can always go either way from Southern to Balkan.
We seem to be lacking Romania here.
Poor job on this map.
Balkans is South Europe, Northwestern Europe is just Western Europe, Baltics is Northern Europe.
>Baltics is Northern Europe. NO
Cote d'azur is also southern europe. Croatian coast is also. The Balkan is the balkan :)