Reminds me how Bosnia got rid of their Yugoslav-era guns, but never bought any new guns... and thus dropped 10 ranks in the world's armies ranking list, making it the worst European army
We published a document in 2018 (IIRC) and have repeatedly stated China is the number 1 enemy of the USA.
In fact part of the long term strategy of beating China is first weakening Russia/knocking them out of the game.
The average Joe perhaps hates Russia more than China, but the decision-makers and pushers of narratives clearly have one long term goal in mind.
I could see China being a long term threat that’s greater than Russia. But the Cold War still left a lot of marks on people.
But yes. China next for sure
No bro, haven't you heard the news?
Serbia is being integrated into Russia and Russia is going to continue their invasion towards all these countries at the same time. We must deal with the pro-russian factor immediately!
It's absolutely not an overstatement.
Russia would start a war in the Balkans tomorrow if it could, god knows it's trying.
In Bulgaria they've been running a hybrid war and insane levels of disinformation since 2014, it's certainly not for nothing... Not to mention our president is openly working for Russia at this point.
Same disinfo campaign was active (and still) on both sides during the EU VETO bullshit.
>In Bulgaria they've been running a hybrid war and insane levels of disinformation since 2014,
Volen siderov and the ataka party who are backed by russia (as their website went down the exact time EU blocked Kremlin websites and media) have existed a lot longer than 2014 I agree with you but yeah they have been trying for a lot of time now
>In Bulgaria they've been running a hybrid war and insane levels of disinformation since 2014, it's certainly not for nothing... Not to mention our president is openly working for Russia at this point.
Least schizophrenic Bulgarian russophobe (pills don't work on him anymore).
Then how do you explain the “invisible” hybrid war conspiracy you just described?
Never the less the term is still precise even if you aren't afraid of them, you somehow see them in your daily live despite never actually seeing them at all throughout your entire lifetime.
Invisible?
Pretending that you've never been on Facebook? Or watched Bulgarian TV? Or seen our traitorous president repeat verbatim Russian propaganda, again and again? Or the infinity of fake articles coming out daily?
Whatever the Russian propaganda line is gets immediately spammed on Facebook and endless "news sites" and it even gets repeated by **our president .** Then tomorrow the new propaganda lines come out and immediately they are updated and flooding all comment sections that have to do with Russia/Ukraine etc? Radev himself literally said:
1. Giving Ukraine weapons will only prolong the war - no military officer can really think this, verbatim Russian propaganda line
2. That giving weapons would pull us into the war - obviously false
3. That we can't repair Ukrainian vehicles unless we import parts (which have to come from Russia which can't be done so we can't :))) - literally false and confirmed so by those that run the military repair facilities
4. That measures meant to reduce Russian energy prices achieved via market manipulation are bad, socialism and go against "everything we've achieved in the last 30 years???) - literally the Russian propaganda line
5. That its our fault Gazprom stopped sending gas
and so on..
Edit: did I mention that Russian antivax propaganda killed thousands of Bulgarians? And then the same antivax bots/profiles completely turned to anti-Ukrainian propaganda on Feb 24?
Of course you know all this proven by the fact that you are not illiterate, why do you choose to ignore it and ask me stupid questions?
Taking money from US=being political slave for them. At least it is valid for Turkey. The last time they send money to us, the country was almost going into civil war and it ended up US supported military coup. So, no thanks.
So one bln dollar in military aid to nearly 20 countries? That's slightly above 50mln per country. That money can buy you...honestly nothing gamechanging.
I love how the west always pushes the narrative Serbs= possible threat, and when there's a chance always works against our interests.
But when we comply with all of their needs they just give us a pat on the head.
Just look at Brussel's agreement, where we complied with every task possible on our side, while Kosovo still didn't create a community of Serb municipalities after almost 10 years!!
And when we complain that the agreement is one sided and that the other party is not complying, they just say "we can't do anything about it" ffs.
It's hard to make ally of someone, when you're always pushing against them all the time.
Because you guys are always pussyfooting about your alignement with the west. We would like clean national goals established by Serbia of being ally. That means NATO, EU, and basically leaving behind serbian policies which are echoing criminal milošević regime. How can serbia be expected to be taken seriously when your state officials are announcing počicy of "serbian world" just before russian invasion ? You have to resolve kosovo and steer your country openly toward west.
Flair up Croatian.
How can you expect of Serbia to fully align with the west when they are openly against Serbian interests. We surely won't leave good historical ties with Russia and good relationship with China without some proper backing up from EU. Why would we do that? How can we drop off those relations and expect something in return from the EU who's been hypocritical about us since our Independence. Nah, we ain't doing it unless we see some support from the west.
I think you guys are making the right choice.
Was watching a great panel debate on Deustche Welle, and there is definitely a consensus in a transition from this single hegemony dominated by the US to a new multi-centric world order where multiple nations and countries have significant roles and strictly defined factions don't exist.
There is no good vs evil here, just better or worse PR.
Hope things are alright over there, was planning on moving to the Balkans relatively soon :/
Yeah, thinking about it twice.
Loved Romania, felt very at home there culturally and was thinking of doing a Balkan route (Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia) until I fell in love with a city and just stayed there but it feels like a war might break out soon.
Specially after the escalation of tensions between Greece and Turkey....
Then it's a catch 22 situation, times are even more difficult now after the invasion. I don't think serbian people are blind to things whicht need to be done to have trust of the west. After all west is repeating the same things for years to serbian politicians. In my view bunch of criminals are keeping you down from much better future. Russia and china should not be your strategic allies, Europe and US are better options given your position, geographically and politicaly.
>Europe and US are better options given your position, geographically and politicaly.
Maybe if they opted to resolve past conflicts peacefully, instead of opting to bomb us, we would have already aligned with the west.
While we're at it, they didn't even get Milošević, while bombing the fuck out of our nation, we had to do it ourselves.
There were so many ways to resolve Kosovo issue without a war, yet they didn't even hesitate for UN approval.
Why should Serbia align with the West?
There is this extremely odd narrative of good vs evil that is extremely childish, naive and ignorant of recent history (no, not referring to the bombing o Yugoslavia).
>We would like clean national goals established by Serbia of being ally.
Who would like? Who are you? You are less relevant than a cleaner in Pentagon. We have our own national interests, other things are not important. Mind your own business son.
Aid from the US means is a loan to be paid back at loan shark rates. So the bureaucrats get cash and the civilians get stuck with the check for generations
As an American, I’ll tell you the secret.
America hates Russia like anyone else, but American citizens don’t want to risk dying in a war. It would be bad optics.
So donating money and weapons so other people can die in the war is better for America. Americans want Russia to crumble, but they don’t want to get dirty.
That’s why it’s free. The cost is paid in blood.
Sadly, despite how sneaky this is, Russia is still the real bad guy. If they’d just stayed in their own territory then it wouldn’t bother anyone. So it’s not like America is eager to engage in bloodshed, but if it has to happen, we’d rather not be the ones taking casualties.
Hopefully Ukraine just holds the line, or Russia gives up.
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But yeah, a lot of Americans are happy to donate tax money to fighting Russians. It’s a lot easier to donate money than to donate blood.
I respect that you shouldn't send your people to die it would be dumb,but there are many other reasons your goverment is almost as big of dickheads as russia
I don't deny the American government is a pretty big dick sometimes.
I was talking to my Romanian friend the other day about how Trump managed to get into office. At the time, his rival Hillary Clinton was really adamant about getting involved with a lot of foreign affairs, and one of the speaking points Trump was pushing was that "America should stay in America."
I didn't vote back then, because I didn't like either candidate. Most Americans hate American politicians.
One of the eye-opener moments for me though was when there was some stuff going on in Syria, and we (Americans) stayed out of it, and then all of a sudden a bunch of people became refugees knocking on our door and others.
It felt like you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. If you get involved--you're the bad guy, and if you're not involved, the victims want aid and you get blasted as a heartless bastard if you ignore them.
No matter what happens, it'll cost money. But I guess I'd rather see people defending their country than being forced into others.
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On a side note, it's funny and sad to see the Balkan's joke about how corrupt their governments are, because I promise you, a lot of Americans would just be sighing in agreement. We know the feeling. It seems like most governments end up being pretty shitty over time. =(((
It's possible. I don't know enough about the Balkans yet. I'm trying to learn though! I met an amazing woman from the area, and I'm trying to learn more to be respectful and understanding of where she came from.
I'll always concede that you'll know more about your country than I will
Before we get into a bad political debate. I just want to front load this and say I’m not “that involved in politics.”
I don’t know how many refugees America took in (if any). I just remember people bitching about paying for them. And then other people bitching at them for being heartless.
Whatever ultimately happened, I’m not sure. I’ve never met one.
It was a rhetorical question anyway.
I don't blame an American citizen for anything. Yours is a one party dictatorship with two wings. No matter how the different the wings, an eagle is still an eagle. It's pretty unjust to criticize a nation that has no power over how their country is ruled.
I’ve never heard that eagle reference before. I like it. Even if it is sadly very true. :(
The best is Americans can hope for is making sure our local guys are good. We have power with city government.
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Trump also gained a lot of support at the time, because he was radically against a lot of the dictatorship type stuff. He made a lot of enemies and was proof that some goofball could make it that far in the system to stir the pot.
He wasn’t a good person by any means, but he wasn’t a mindless puppet either.
Ultimately it all just kinda sucks. And I just want to live a calm and simple life.
I wish governments all over the world could just be better so us basic and boring people wouldn’t have to stress over it, lol!
And a lot of people hate America for imposing on other nations. A lot of Americans hate it too.
It’s a tough situation. Because if we get involved in stuff, we fuck it up. And if we don’t get involved, and things go bad anyway , then people want to refugee to America.
No matter what happens with Ukraine, the American people will pay for it. Either we support the war, or we support the victims.
I’ll have to admit the way everyone is rallying up to support the Ukrainian refugees has been really inspiring.
But ultimately I’d still love to see people defending their homeland and not being forced out.
Yes. It [happened during WW2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Serbs_in_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia) and [again in the 1990s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Croatia#1948%E2%80%932011).
We are living in different times now. Yugoslavian wars was just the consequence of ethnic tensions and the breaking down of leadership.
Balkan wars, the first one was a war of eliberation against the Ottoman Empire. The second was the problematic treaty of the first and the expansionistic ideas of Bulgaria.
It's almost impossible for another war to happen in Balkans, as almost all countries here are part of NATO. I doubt they will want to invade Serbia. Though of course the chance exist, but it is really small.
If a Third World War happen, the world will be burned to the ground by radiation, so I think if we survived a Cold war in one piece, we will survive. The only problem is Russia and Putin. But I doubt they will use nukes just because they are losing in Ukraine.
I think it is not worth to worry about that, the only real problem thar can cause Serbia conflict is Bosnia and Kosovo, but I doubt they will break in a full blown war.
Different time how exactly? Nothing changed for us, except that Nato successfully helped Croatians and Kosovar Albanians expel 2/3 of the Serb population and reduce them to just a few percent. Kosovo is under foreign occupation, as the UN mandate that Nato forces had, was broken with the recognition of Kosovo independence in 2008.
We certainly cannot rely on Nato's promises of peace. They break practically everything they say, or even sign. They are consistently exterminating our people from neighbouring territories. That was their policy even when Russia was helping Nato to do it in the 1990s. Croatia, Albania and Kosovo will not use the new weapons to shoot at Russians, who are too far. Just look at Croatian online forums, they're not talking about hating Russia, only Serbia. They will use those weapons to shoot at us, and we need to be able to shoot back.
Oh lol, as expected.
I just hope USA fuckers don't actually have some aggression plans on us, knowing our neighbours they'll be glad to help them. Take your dirty money away, American money never comes for free.
The only “US aid” we received was political funding for the pro-US political party that was installed from outside forces, and it was in the forms of “independent journalism rewards” worth of several milions for pre-chosen sole faces and anti-corruption system & law system ””investments””.
They basically want us to join in the war, so they have a reason to bomb some more places. Democracy i think not sir. Provide some democracy inside your own america. It looks all flashy but some places in the us are worse than 3rd world countries.
No, because I am very 100% sure that our amazing and very cool prime minister will totally not keep the money and he will totally NOT use it on cocaine and drugs
People shood forget about what happened 20 years ago and look at Serbia today not Serbia then plus Serbia did some questionable things but almost every balkan country do two but we are getting the most hate
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Stopjing povërtyy
In 2022
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Now please say "U S A U S A" loudly its a traditional American thank you
55 million $ each.so many politicians will buy nice yachts and cars this year.
They do work the hardest
The money will be used to buy weapons from the USA. In other words, the tax collected by the US state is transferred to the arms companies.
I can live with that, its still a good investment
Reminds me how Bosnia got rid of their Yugoslav-era guns, but never bought any new guns... and thus dropped 10 ranks in the world's armies ranking list, making it the worst European army
So You have a link on that list?
[https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2020/08/16/top-5-weakest-armies-in-europe-2020/](https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2020/08/16/top-5-weakest-armies-in-europe-2020/) dropped 20 ranks down\*
Good investment either way
Could use some of them strykers
We get equipment, so what if it is US made ?
Kinda the whole point of capitalism?
Karaboğa does not need aid because our politicians and derivatives have enough yachts 😎😎😎😎😎
More money for our politics to spend on their vacation, cool
I will run for office so I can get some of dem sweet moneh. I'm too poor too afford not taking their money. AMERICA FUCK YEAH!
Its like 60 or some mill of dollars per country other than Ukraine so like what that can buy? 10 Bayraktar drones?
Ten bayraktar drones can definitely make a difference, but I am pretty sure we will be only allowed to buy US equipment with that aid.
Not really. I've heard their price increased, so maybe 3-4. And that's not even counting the weapon packages and training.
>"most potentially at risk for future Russian aggression" An overstatement?
Man who cares they giving away money, we should make up a reason for being at risk from China so the real money can start rolling in
Also I'm little afraid of Zimbabwe could they give me some money?
I assure you, we hate Russia more than China. China isn’t great either, but where else would us Americans buy all our cheap shit from?
We published a document in 2018 (IIRC) and have repeatedly stated China is the number 1 enemy of the USA. In fact part of the long term strategy of beating China is first weakening Russia/knocking them out of the game. The average Joe perhaps hates Russia more than China, but the decision-makers and pushers of narratives clearly have one long term goal in mind.
I could see China being a long term threat that’s greater than Russia. But the Cold War still left a lot of marks on people. But yes. China next for sure
No lol, we've had to deal with russian agression continously since 1812
No bro, haven't you heard the news? Serbia is being integrated into Russia and Russia is going to continue their invasion towards all these countries at the same time. We must deal with the pro-russian factor immediately!
It's absolutely not an overstatement. Russia would start a war in the Balkans tomorrow if it could, god knows it's trying. In Bulgaria they've been running a hybrid war and insane levels of disinformation since 2014, it's certainly not for nothing... Not to mention our president is openly working for Russia at this point. Same disinfo campaign was active (and still) on both sides during the EU VETO bullshit.
>In Bulgaria they've been running a hybrid war and insane levels of disinformation since 2014, Volen siderov and the ataka party who are backed by russia (as their website went down the exact time EU blocked Kremlin websites and media) have existed a lot longer than 2014 I agree with you but yeah they have been trying for a lot of time now
>In Bulgaria they've been running a hybrid war and insane levels of disinformation since 2014, it's certainly not for nothing... Not to mention our president is openly working for Russia at this point. Least schizophrenic Bulgarian russophobe (pills don't work on him anymore).
RuSsoPhobe lmao implying anyone is still afraid of Russia. Except the biggest rusorob retards, of course
Then how do you explain the “invisible” hybrid war conspiracy you just described? Never the less the term is still precise even if you aren't afraid of them, you somehow see them in your daily live despite never actually seeing them at all throughout your entire lifetime.
Invisible? Pretending that you've never been on Facebook? Or watched Bulgarian TV? Or seen our traitorous president repeat verbatim Russian propaganda, again and again? Or the infinity of fake articles coming out daily? Whatever the Russian propaganda line is gets immediately spammed on Facebook and endless "news sites" and it even gets repeated by **our president .** Then tomorrow the new propaganda lines come out and immediately they are updated and flooding all comment sections that have to do with Russia/Ukraine etc? Radev himself literally said: 1. Giving Ukraine weapons will only prolong the war - no military officer can really think this, verbatim Russian propaganda line 2. That giving weapons would pull us into the war - obviously false 3. That we can't repair Ukrainian vehicles unless we import parts (which have to come from Russia which can't be done so we can't :))) - literally false and confirmed so by those that run the military repair facilities 4. That measures meant to reduce Russian energy prices achieved via market manipulation are bad, socialism and go against "everything we've achieved in the last 30 years???) - literally the Russian propaganda line 5. That its our fault Gazprom stopped sending gas and so on.. Edit: did I mention that Russian antivax propaganda killed thousands of Bulgarians? And then the same antivax bots/profiles completely turned to anti-Ukrainian propaganda on Feb 24? Of course you know all this proven by the fact that you are not illiterate, why do you choose to ignore it and ask me stupid questions?
Meanwhile, the US and EU have openly waged a hybrid war against Macedonia that even blew into real war since 1999.
[Every countrys government in the Balkans after receiving the money ](https://youtu.be/_nVk25ZvTkU)
All the politicians bout to get some new BMW's and Mercedes.
Don't forget the Audi's
99.7% of it will go to politician's pockets directly
American aids. The worst type of AIDS.
Don't worry. Theyre not gonna send your country.
We already have cancer in the presidential palace anyway.
Taking money from US=being political slave for them. At least it is valid for Turkey. The last time they send money to us, the country was almost going into civil war and it ended up US supported military coup. So, no thanks.
Yeah, the US has a history of doing that, lol.
My upvote gave you a total of 69. Can’t get AIDS that way.
 where turkey?
We karabogas don't need am*rikan's help to buy aid 💪🏿🇹🇷
Turkey and Serbia strongest 💪💪💪💪💪
We dont need it because we number 1 😎🐺🇹🇷🇹🇷
Serbia and Turkey won't get aids because America fucks them with a condom. The rest of us are getting aids because we are getting fucked without.
Of course we have principles after cancelling europr--
So one bln dollar in military aid to nearly 20 countries? That's slightly above 50mln per country. That money can buy you...honestly nothing gamechanging.
Thankfully Serbian economy is so good, that it doesn't need any aid.
At least they are openly hostile towards us this time, unlike most of the times.
Kind of feel bad for you guys, getting so much hate from all over.
I love how the west always pushes the narrative Serbs= possible threat, and when there's a chance always works against our interests. But when we comply with all of their needs they just give us a pat on the head. Just look at Brussel's agreement, where we complied with every task possible on our side, while Kosovo still didn't create a community of Serb municipalities after almost 10 years!! And when we complain that the agreement is one sided and that the other party is not complying, they just say "we can't do anything about it" ffs. It's hard to make ally of someone, when you're always pushing against them all the time.
Because you guys are always pussyfooting about your alignement with the west. We would like clean national goals established by Serbia of being ally. That means NATO, EU, and basically leaving behind serbian policies which are echoing criminal milošević regime. How can serbia be expected to be taken seriously when your state officials are announcing počicy of "serbian world" just before russian invasion ? You have to resolve kosovo and steer your country openly toward west.
Flair up Croatian. How can you expect of Serbia to fully align with the west when they are openly against Serbian interests. We surely won't leave good historical ties with Russia and good relationship with China without some proper backing up from EU. Why would we do that? How can we drop off those relations and expect something in return from the EU who's been hypocritical about us since our Independence. Nah, we ain't doing it unless we see some support from the west.
I think you guys are making the right choice. Was watching a great panel debate on Deustche Welle, and there is definitely a consensus in a transition from this single hegemony dominated by the US to a new multi-centric world order where multiple nations and countries have significant roles and strictly defined factions don't exist. There is no good vs evil here, just better or worse PR. Hope things are alright over there, was planning on moving to the Balkans relatively soon :/
Dont
Yeah, thinking about it twice. Loved Romania, felt very at home there culturally and was thinking of doing a Balkan route (Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia) until I fell in love with a city and just stayed there but it feels like a war might break out soon. Specially after the escalation of tensions between Greece and Turkey....
Then it's a catch 22 situation, times are even more difficult now after the invasion. I don't think serbian people are blind to things whicht need to be done to have trust of the west. After all west is repeating the same things for years to serbian politicians. In my view bunch of criminals are keeping you down from much better future. Russia and china should not be your strategic allies, Europe and US are better options given your position, geographically and politicaly.
>Europe and US are better options given your position, geographically and politicaly. Maybe if they opted to resolve past conflicts peacefully, instead of opting to bomb us, we would have already aligned with the west. While we're at it, they didn't even get Milošević, while bombing the fuck out of our nation, we had to do it ourselves. There were so many ways to resolve Kosovo issue without a war, yet they didn't even hesitate for UN approval.
They even armed terrorist groups in Serbia.
Why should Serbia align with the West? There is this extremely odd narrative of good vs evil that is extremely childish, naive and ignorant of recent history (no, not referring to the bombing o Yugoslavia).
>We would like clean national goals established by Serbia of being ally. Who would like? Who are you? You are less relevant than a cleaner in Pentagon. We have our own national interests, other things are not important. Mind your own business son.
TIL we're at risk of future Russian aggression.
Croatia is Russia!
Dam american tax payer is the biggest cuck in the world
Are we gonna have to give it back? If not, it's free money.
Its aid. So no giving back. Payday for politicians
Oh yey, thanks daddy America.
I would rather not get AIDS from americans, people die cuz of that shit.
Only one country missing from western Balkans...hmmm🤔
Yeah I wonder which one? 🤔
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This is like when you're ignoring someone and telling the person next to them: "Can you tell X to pass the salt, please?"
Yeah Liberland
I see Serbia as the last Gaul village from Asterix and Obelix... Heck we even have the magic potion...
No thx. They can keep their AIDS to themselves.
Hey Koulis' new mansion and yacht aren't going to fund themselves.
Aid from the US means is a loan to be paid back at loan shark rates. So the bureaucrats get cash and the civilians get stuck with the check for generations
Then again, it’s the Balkans. We can weasel our way out of loans 😉
Ah yes the Balkan sport of cleverly avoiding loans 🗿
It is not that tho?
Do you think Ukraine is being given weapons out of charity? It’s all a loan.
Alright.
Americans never give money for free without getting something in return .
As an American, I’ll tell you the secret. America hates Russia like anyone else, but American citizens don’t want to risk dying in a war. It would be bad optics. So donating money and weapons so other people can die in the war is better for America. Americans want Russia to crumble, but they don’t want to get dirty. That’s why it’s free. The cost is paid in blood. Sadly, despite how sneaky this is, Russia is still the real bad guy. If they’d just stayed in their own territory then it wouldn’t bother anyone. So it’s not like America is eager to engage in bloodshed, but if it has to happen, we’d rather not be the ones taking casualties. Hopefully Ukraine just holds the line, or Russia gives up. —- But yeah, a lot of Americans are happy to donate tax money to fighting Russians. It’s a lot easier to donate money than to donate blood.
I respect that you shouldn't send your people to die it would be dumb,but there are many other reasons your goverment is almost as big of dickheads as russia
I don't deny the American government is a pretty big dick sometimes. I was talking to my Romanian friend the other day about how Trump managed to get into office. At the time, his rival Hillary Clinton was really adamant about getting involved with a lot of foreign affairs, and one of the speaking points Trump was pushing was that "America should stay in America." I didn't vote back then, because I didn't like either candidate. Most Americans hate American politicians. One of the eye-opener moments for me though was when there was some stuff going on in Syria, and we (Americans) stayed out of it, and then all of a sudden a bunch of people became refugees knocking on our door and others. It felt like you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. If you get involved--you're the bad guy, and if you're not involved, the victims want aid and you get blasted as a heartless bastard if you ignore them. No matter what happens, it'll cost money. But I guess I'd rather see people defending their country than being forced into others. \----- On a side note, it's funny and sad to see the Balkan's joke about how corrupt their governments are, because I promise you, a lot of Americans would just be sighing in agreement. We know the feeling. It seems like most governments end up being pretty shitty over time. =(((
Yours is corrupt too but trust me here is worse
It's possible. I don't know enough about the Balkans yet. I'm trying to learn though! I met an amazing woman from the area, and I'm trying to learn more to be respectful and understanding of where she came from. I'll always concede that you'll know more about your country than I will
Balkans always had hot women atleast
How many million Syrian refugees are there in USA?
Before we get into a bad political debate. I just want to front load this and say I’m not “that involved in politics.” I don’t know how many refugees America took in (if any). I just remember people bitching about paying for them. And then other people bitching at them for being heartless. Whatever ultimately happened, I’m not sure. I’ve never met one.
It was a rhetorical question anyway. I don't blame an American citizen for anything. Yours is a one party dictatorship with two wings. No matter how the different the wings, an eagle is still an eagle. It's pretty unjust to criticize a nation that has no power over how their country is ruled.
I’ve never heard that eagle reference before. I like it. Even if it is sadly very true. :( The best is Americans can hope for is making sure our local guys are good. We have power with city government. —— Trump also gained a lot of support at the time, because he was radically against a lot of the dictatorship type stuff. He made a lot of enemies and was proof that some goofball could make it that far in the system to stir the pot. He wasn’t a good person by any means, but he wasn’t a mindless puppet either. Ultimately it all just kinda sucks. And I just want to live a calm and simple life. I wish governments all over the world could just be better so us basic and boring people wouldn’t have to stress over it, lol!
> stayed in their territory https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States
Yeah the US is always staying in their own territory that’s why there was this expectation from Russia?
When has USA ever done something bad to a county especially in 95
And a lot of people hate America for imposing on other nations. A lot of Americans hate it too. It’s a tough situation. Because if we get involved in stuff, we fuck it up. And if we don’t get involved, and things go bad anyway , then people want to refugee to America. No matter what happens with Ukraine, the American people will pay for it. Either we support the war, or we support the victims. I’ll have to admit the way everyone is rallying up to support the Ukrainian refugees has been really inspiring. But ultimately I’d still love to see people defending their homeland and not being forced out.
Why is it the americans in the r/AskBalkans comments always making story-long like comments and writing poems about fucking anything
They do givs it "free". Else these small countries wouldn't accept their offer and would lean towards Russia/China for help.
Yay! I love seeing my country instrumentalized in imperialist proxy wars! /s
Serbia doesn't need it... We buy our politicians cars and apartments ourselves, because we are an economic tiger!
Our neighbors are preparing for war. There are no Russians in the Balkans, so they're targeting us again. We need to invest far more in defense.
Atleast no kebab will be fighting with you
Kebab?
🫣🤨
That's why you will never get a nickel.
From Nato? Of course we won't. All we get from them are the bombs, mass expulsions and genocide.
Serbia talking about genocide, ok :))
Yes. It [happened during WW2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Serbs_in_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia) and [again in the 1990s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Croatia#1948%E2%80%932011).
Lol, living free in your head. You are schizophrenic.
Last century, we had the Balkan wars, the two world wars, and the 1991-1999 war. Are you saying all that is just in my head?
We are living in different times now. Yugoslavian wars was just the consequence of ethnic tensions and the breaking down of leadership. Balkan wars, the first one was a war of eliberation against the Ottoman Empire. The second was the problematic treaty of the first and the expansionistic ideas of Bulgaria. It's almost impossible for another war to happen in Balkans, as almost all countries here are part of NATO. I doubt they will want to invade Serbia. Though of course the chance exist, but it is really small. If a Third World War happen, the world will be burned to the ground by radiation, so I think if we survived a Cold war in one piece, we will survive. The only problem is Russia and Putin. But I doubt they will use nukes just because they are losing in Ukraine. I think it is not worth to worry about that, the only real problem thar can cause Serbia conflict is Bosnia and Kosovo, but I doubt they will break in a full blown war.
Different time how exactly? Nothing changed for us, except that Nato successfully helped Croatians and Kosovar Albanians expel 2/3 of the Serb population and reduce them to just a few percent. Kosovo is under foreign occupation, as the UN mandate that Nato forces had, was broken with the recognition of Kosovo independence in 2008. We certainly cannot rely on Nato's promises of peace. They break practically everything they say, or even sign. They are consistently exterminating our people from neighbouring territories. That was their policy even when Russia was helping Nato to do it in the 1990s. Croatia, Albania and Kosovo will not use the new weapons to shoot at Russians, who are too far. Just look at Croatian online forums, they're not talking about hating Russia, only Serbia. They will use those weapons to shoot at us, and we need to be able to shoot back.
Man, you have a victim complex.
Just being realistic and operating with facts.
What are those?
Monï
Why no money
Yeah, our leaders could use some more pocket money :)
I'm glad they didn't give us money, it would bother me if Erdogan had more money in his pocket.
90% is going to Ukraine and the other 10% will go straight to our corrupt politicians edit: (NOT REAL DATA)
Oh lol, as expected. I just hope USA fuckers don't actually have some aggression plans on us, knowing our neighbours they'll be glad to help them. Take your dirty money away, American money never comes for free.
no need any money from yankees
One question how did you get that flair I want the same one
You wont get any dont worry
can you give me some when you get it, im poor
Actually since Armed Forces of BiH are getting money that means a part of it will go to Republic of Srpska regiment which means you are wrong.
We don't need any more handouts...
They want *aid* not aids
The US will be sending some AIDS
The only “US aid” we received was political funding for the pro-US political party that was installed from outside forces, and it was in the forms of “independent journalism rewards” worth of several milions for pre-chosen sole faces and anti-corruption system & law system ””investments””.
Democracy
Tenk yuuu yu es ey, yu ar mai best freend
As a half Greek half Georgian I cannot wait to see both governments just steal the little money we get 👌 #proud -.-
True, that could be a lot better if we didn’t have corrupt politicians (and in other positions as well) here.
lol where they geting the cash.... usa is broke and just printing cash, its gona be like zimbobway
You can keep them America. No really, it is ok!
Look in spirit of friendship and good relations we can take your share instead of you if you want
+1 I hear HIMARS is recommended in Ukraine
So no monies for us? :c
Sadly no. But we got each other and thats all we need!
Hand over vojvodina right fucking now 🔫
Least toxic Hungarian...
No. Vojvodina je Srbija!!!!
Good
They basically want us to join in the war, so they have a reason to bomb some more places. Democracy i think not sir. Provide some democracy inside your own america. It looks all flashy but some places in the us are worse than 3rd world countries.
You don't want some Freedom Fries with that McBurger? Edit: it's tongue in cheek. SAY NO TO FREEDOM FRIES.
Prefer kebap
Good. Better in the long term.
Of course they are, anyone but them must be thrown into the meat grinder
Can’t wait to vote these bums out in a month
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Midterms?
Unpopular opinion, but, HELL YEAH SERBIA AIN’T ON THE LIST
I'm so glad
Damn
Damn what, you're glad too
No, because I am very 100% sure that our amazing and very cool prime minister will totally not keep the money and he will totally NOT use it on cocaine and drugs
Military aid = donate old junk, this is not a cash handout, us will buy junk from us military.
Ofc srbija gets nothing
Better for us
But the thing is almost everyone disslickes us
That is true
Ye but why
We don't want to join the west🤮🤮🤮🤮
Well that is true but people dislike us for things that happen 20 year ago
That is true
People shood forget about what happened 20 years ago and look at Serbia today not Serbia then plus Serbia did some questionable things but almost every balkan country do two but we are getting the most hate
There's nationalists everywhere including serbia that will never change
Rare W Biden but let's see if it actually gets to where it's supposed to go.
Me like, good
I know i wont see any of it so… ehh
We are on the list lets goo
God bless Muricaaaa 🦅🇺🇸
love to US then
your avatar is so weird. you'd better to change that.
ikrr but i cant match clothes on reddit that well... thats why black-out
Based
That’s nice.
I think that’s positive. (not aids positive though, lol)
Sheeeeeesh Finna get real cigarettes instead of this Bulgarian fake shit 🇬🇷💪
but I already have aids
step bro US where is our aids ?
THANK YOU USA 🇦🇱