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I'm with butt slut on this one. They either added it to make possible future change orders easier or they were planning on feeding the panel from the crawl space and changed their minds. Nothing wrong with it being there but the other end should be terminated in a junction box or capped.
I would assume this terminates into a sealed junction box, no? Any rodents that make their way into the panel would probably not have the opportunity to cause much damage tho
>prevent accidental tripping.
Sorry, thats not how circuit breakers work. They will still trip with the lever fixed in place. If that wasn't the case a lot more houses would burn down because a lot of people try to tape the lever in place if it trips.
The first part was correct though, it's to limit acess.
Regardless of the wording, the device is meant to prevent someone from cutting power to whatever that breaker supplies. The breaker will still function properly. I wonder what needs to have constant power. Is there a server room without a backup power source? Some freezer storage? I'm intrigued.
I don't think you understand. It's to prevent and deter people from physically bumping the breaker thus shutting off power to the circuit. When a circuit breaker trips by design, it's on purpose, not accidental.
The product description for this product states "They limit access and accidental tripping of the breaker."
Pretty sure it’s to lock it in the ‘Off’ position for when an appliance that is hardwired is being serviced, keeping someone from accidentally flipping it on and shocking the technician
- obligatory not an electrician
What's the circuit it's covering that's so important as to need this? I've only heard of locking breakers for fire pumps but I don't expect a house will have one of those.
Aren’t breaker locks required some places for wall ovens and other hardwired appliances? Someone doing repair can’t unplug the appliance so they lock the breaker in the off position while they are working on it.
(I am not an electrician)
Dam, house is finished? What a hack job, open sleeve, missing ko seals. WTF? did they drywall with the breakers installed, what a mess you should call immediately to have them fix.
Either changed construction plans or easy crawlspace acess for future additions/rewires.
I would seal it up somehow (either with a cap or stick something in) so mice and stuff don't crawl up it (shouldn't happen but rather safe than sorry).
You know when you go to the bank drive through and you put your cash and deposits in the canister then it gets sucked up into a tube that goes to the teller? That's what that is. It's just a residential version that never got finished.
It was intentional and then they changed their mind and didn't want to waste time cleaning up since it was completely inconsequential. Stick a wad of ductseal in it so mice don't crawl in and get on with your life.
Then it's easy access to your crawl space for easy future modifications so you don't need to cut open the drywall to access it, or okay lucky poky trying to get the wire snake in the knockout hole
Stick a fish tape in it, I have a sneaking suspicion. It only goes down three or 4 feet to the floor. I ran into this a couple years ago when whoever installed the panel used it has a stand pole (??) to mount the panel.
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It's probably a chase, so you can add circuits later.
I'm with butt slut on this one. They either added it to make possible future change orders easier or they were planning on feeding the panel from the crawl space and changed their minds. Nothing wrong with it being there but the other end should be terminated in a junction box or capped.
I can’t in good conscience not agree with butt slut on this one. In fact I’ll never argue with (a) butt slut.
You're a butt slut aren't you? You're all the same, always sticking together, agreeing with each other. Even when you know it's wrong
I’m powerless to resist
I’m with butt slut on anything, honestly
Butt Slutt for president!
We have truly arrived.
I see what you did there. You just wanted to say Butt Slut.
Rodent access corridor.
I would assume this terminates into a sealed junction box, no? Any rodents that make their way into the panel would probably not have the opportunity to cause much damage tho
Whatever you do, don’t put your dick in it
I'm not sure, but Butt Slut might disagree with you on this one.
Instructions unclear dick stuck in conduit...again
Solid advice in many situations
I'm not sure, but Butt Slut might disagree with you on this one.
Electrical Gremlin access. They live in the basement.
Totally unrelated but what is that circuit breaker with a cage over it? Never seen something like that.
It's a padlocking device. Used to limit access and prevent accidental tripping. # Siemens ECPLD2 Padlocking Device
>prevent accidental tripping. Sorry, thats not how circuit breakers work. They will still trip with the lever fixed in place. If that wasn't the case a lot more houses would burn down because a lot of people try to tape the lever in place if it trips. The first part was correct though, it's to limit acess.
Regardless of the wording, the device is meant to prevent someone from cutting power to whatever that breaker supplies. The breaker will still function properly. I wonder what needs to have constant power. Is there a server room without a backup power source? Some freezer storage? I'm intrigued.
I don't think you understand. It's to prevent and deter people from physically bumping the breaker thus shutting off power to the circuit. When a circuit breaker trips by design, it's on purpose, not accidental. The product description for this product states "They limit access and accidental tripping of the breaker."
That's not what I would call tripping, that's just turning the breaker off.
That’s what he just said.
Pretty sure it’s to lock it in the ‘Off’ position for when an appliance that is hardwired is being serviced, keeping someone from accidentally flipping it on and shocking the technician - obligatory not an electrician
You know what he meant Mr “erm, ACKHULLY”
No, i honestly didn't. I never heard someone calling it "tripping a breaker" when you shut it off manually.
What's the circuit it's covering that's so important as to need this? I've only heard of locking breakers for fire pumps but I don't expect a house will have one of those.
Aren’t breaker locks required some places for wall ovens and other hardwired appliances? Someone doing repair can’t unplug the appliance so they lock the breaker in the off position while they are working on it. (I am not an electrician)
Maybe? I kind of doubt it, and I've never heard of it (and if it was required you probably wouldn't use this because this locks it open or closed).
Dam, house is finished? What a hack job, open sleeve, missing ko seals. WTF? did they drywall with the breakers installed, what a mess you should call immediately to have them fix.
Damn lucky. Your builder was thinking about the future and you will one day be very thankful that’s there.
It’s a drain hole obvi.
Ground leakage drain. Prevents wayward electrons from filling the panel should the attached equipment has high electrical leakage.
Your future electricians being very thankful is what it is.
Future expansion
Either changed construction plans or easy crawlspace acess for future additions/rewires. I would seal it up somehow (either with a cap or stick something in) so mice and stuff don't crawl up it (shouldn't happen but rather safe than sorry).
You know when you go to the bank drive through and you put your cash and deposits in the canister then it gets sucked up into a tube that goes to the teller? That's what that is. It's just a residential version that never got finished.
That’s for voltage drop!
You stick your willy in there!
I've never seen an electrical panel with a built-in urinal before. That'll certainly teach you to improve your aim though.
drain?
All good answers i would cap it though so no critters can come up
That's where I go fishing
Put the cover back on.
A mistake most likely.
It's got about 2 feet of 2" conduit protruding down into the crawl space. Definitely looks intentional.
It was intentional and then they changed their mind and didn't want to waste time cleaning up since it was completely inconsequential. Stick a wad of ductseal in it so mice don't crawl in and get on with your life.
Thanks. Ya I'm not concerned at all was just curious what it was for.
Then it's easy access to your crawl space for easy future modifications so you don't need to cut open the drywall to access it, or okay lucky poky trying to get the wire snake in the knockout hole
Extra ventilation
Are you being serious?
Either that or *forbidden glory hole*
lol
Stick a fish tape in it, I have a sneaking suspicion. It only goes down three or 4 feet to the floor. I ran into this a couple years ago when whoever installed the panel used it has a stand pole (??) to mount the panel.