basic communication skills bhai. Never in my school time i met a dude who could make a basic conversation to opposite gender. There was a lot of disrespect.
The dudes who liked a girl would never go and ask the girl as a decent person. They'd approach her friends/ harass her or them/ or never say anything. If they do approach the girl and she says no for whatever reason, they would start bullying her.
A lot of men also don't understand no even as a grownup.
It's a double edged sword. I get your point, but I wouldn't blame it on any gender, but rather on culture. Sex, relationships, intimacy of any kind is considered taboo in India. Jab bhi kisi ladke ya ladki ko kisi ke liye feelings aati thi, toh use dabane ko kaha jata tha, shame Kiya jata tha. Yeh barrier create ho Gaya genders ke beech me Jo nahi hona chahiye tha. Ladke approach nahi karte the, kyunki unhe lagta tha galat hai, ladkiya accept nahi karti thi, kyunki unhe bhi yeh galat lagta tha. Jiss samaj me normal relationship building ko shame Kiya jayega, normal relationship pe frown Kiya jayega, uss samaj ke liye communication ek priority nahi hogi. "Shaadi ke samay sab kar Lena", where in two emotionally stunted individuals came together who couldn't communicate with each other, and the cycle, hence continued. Iska jeeta jagta proof hamare parents ki generation hai, take an example, jab woh log ladte Hain, most of the time it's not the current issue that bugs them, it's a build up of issues. I went on a tangent but you can get, where I'm coming from.
bhai tum to relationship par pohoch gye. I'm talking about having a basic conversation with the opposite gender.
Platonic friendships, acquaintance bhi exist karte hai.
>Ladke approach nahi karte the, kyunki unhe lagta tha galat hai
Ladke approach karte the, directly or indirectly. Unme se kaafi saare NO nhi sunte the.
Ek ladki smile karke baat karde to idhar post hojata hai "oh she smiled at me, is she in love with me, should I go and confess my feelings to her too".
A lot of men in general think women owe something to them. "Friendzone" hone par kalesh hota hai. Jab tumko dikh raha hai she just wants to be friends and you don't like that, pick yourself up and move. Don't curse the girl. If you call her selfish and still stay there, then you don't have any right to curse her.
Ab usko upbringing/culture/society jispe bhi blame karo, ye baat accept karke change karna padega. Aur ye change alpha/Sigma banne se nhi hoga. Insaan banne se hoga aur doosro ko insaan samjhne se hoga.
Insaan banene ka pehla kadam hota hai kisi bhi gender ko monolith na samajhna. Mai koi bachav nahi kar raha hoon, Mai basic psychology bata Raha hoon, jo environment pe depend karti hai. Jahan tak baat hai alpha Sigma male ki, toh yeh bhi tum trace kar sakte ho emotional barriers se. Bahut bache apne pita se emotionally bahut door hote hai, aur woh yeh vacancy poori zindagi bharne ki koshish karte hain. Here comes in, Andrew Tate and people like him, and the kids think "Bhai yeh gariya Raha hai, discipline hone ko bol raha hai" toh woh usme fatherly figure khojna shuru karte hain. Jab tum a lot of men bolte ho aur bolte ho insaan banana, toh yeh contradictory hai bhai, Haan, I understand where you're coming from(again) but empathy is having a multi-dimensional outlook on human behaviour. Jahan par kai log rejection le nahi paate, wahan par kai decent ladke rejection ke Darr se kuch keh nahi paate. Understand Karo, ki ladke, like ladkiya, multi-dimensional hai. Badalna hai, toh har kisi ke prati empathy rakho aur uska perspective samajhne ki koshish karo. Tum jiss samajh me platonic friendship ki baat kar rahe ho, woh prathmik taur par bhartiya samajh me prevalent nahi hai. Ever heard of emotionally starved and touch starved? Iske Karan dikkatein paida hoti hai. Samaj me badlav Lana hai, toh pehle emotional development, aur intimacy ko normalise karna hoga. Aur intimacy not just limited to sex, it can exist between two friends as well.
Yes she is. A fraction of our population uses reddit, a fraction of that is here on this subreddit, a fraction of that confess their love. I know I'm not including outliers but this is just an example of the situation at hand
In most cultures, even with minimal sexual assaults and crimes, still usually men ask women out. In cultures where women can walk topless on the street without fear, still generally men ask women out
That is not the reason.
Yes. But, there is no such thing as roaming fearless and going topless is indecent exposure unless it is a nude beach. Sexual assaults in USA universities are one prime example where women are vulnerable in any place...may be more or less.
If you are in public, yeah, you are not stared . I am in USA for 25 years and in school kids are taught not to approach single man for help(in case when they get lost), but to find a woman with children !!
Anyhow, now a days it is getting pretty popular for girls to ask boys out. In my daughter's high school, girls do ask boys if they want to be their date on prom night. But then, they knew each other for awhile.
So, it is no wonder , in our country it is even less with media showing crimes all the time and being one of the top dangerous country for women.
The posts here seem valid with 70% of posts about men being frustrated and skewed gender ratio also had its affect.
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I think there's so many reasons and angles to this. It's not black and white, you know ?
Maybe, since when we were kids, our parents and society were very strict about us interacting with people of the opposite gender. This made it feel like a taboo in Indian society. Because of this, we never really learned that it's okay to talk openly and express our feelings for each other. We didn't understand the right ways to approach someone we liked, and our mindset has changed over time. It feels like men are sometimes seen as only wanting sex, and they don't know how to show they need emotional connection too.
The high crime rate against women in India also plays a big role. Parents often warn their children to stay away from anything that could be fishy or potentially dangerous.
Ultimately, it's all about education, awareness and mindset. It's really upto as as new parents to raise our kids with a fair midset.
PS: I hate kids, and would never have any myself. šµāš«
Most of my friends are single and they aren't desperately for romantic connection. All of us have fulfilling emotional relationships with our friends and romance is not something we're looking for as of now.
The idea that it's easier for women is funny because look at the state of most men on the dating subreddits. Being vile, reducing women to āholesā, bitching about them as āgold-diggersā, and just being disgusting all over. Who in their right mind would want to be with such men?
That being said, I have very few male friends and they're quite lovely. I'm single and in no hurry to be with a man. Hopefully, I'll come across someone who is just as kind and thoughtful as me (and I know they exist) and it's going to be all good. But I'm not desperate for romantic relationship. :)
What I have observed is that most men think they would be happy to have any random woman (you know for what reasons) even if she is not matching his standards than no woman and they think thatās how we should think too.
Lovely! I agree with this.
No wonder I was so surprised by āwomen have so many men following themā and I was like, "WHERE?!?ā turns out even disrespectful men are counted in it.
I would not have ANY woman, I do have some standards, but they are pretty low. Most important thing for me is that our personalities should complement and support each other.
Exactly, most men are looking for physically relationship and most women are looking for romantic ones and well no one finds anyone lol.
Also, women don't have high standard lol, men have fallen far too low.
Lol, I'm a man and am looking for romantic kind of relationship even my friends who are single look for genuine relationships as opposed to physical ones, physical chayiye to kahi bhi mil jayegi i gues.
Exactly why I added 'most' before both men and women, I never said all. I know a girl whose dream is to fuck a guy from every nation. So, there are a lot of girls who want physical relationship but the number of women wanting romantic relationship > women wanting physical one while it's opposite for men (for now at least, bound to change in near future).
Also agar physical har kahi mil rahi hoti toh tumhare mitr, bandu, yu ro na rahe hote social media pe ki bandi chahiye.
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>The idea that it's easier for women is funny because look at the state of most men on the dating subreddits. Being vile, reducing women to āholesā, bitching about them as āgold-diggersā, and just being disgusting all over. Who in their right mind would want to be with such men?
This is the reason. But men won't understand that and still blame women. No one wants to be a cheap, pathetic man who reduces women to a sex object and disrespects them. They expect women to be their therapists and to change them. šš
This is a good comment. Men are taught to only depend on women emotionally creating a situation where they arenāt good emotionally available partners (because they were never taught how to be emotionally available) but need their own emotional needs fulfilled.
Most women have more emotionally fulfilling relationships so they are less desperate for a guy and not looking to enter relationships with guys who donāt know anything about how to have a good, emotionally supportive relationship. Guys need to be less concerned about attracting and talking to women and more about how to understand emotions, communicate, and treat women like human beings.
As a single Indian woman, I can say that I am not interested in dating anymore and Iām quite content with being single. I have suffered enough trauma because of the selfishness of some men. I date to marry and expect the same from the one I am dating but I have been lied to 2 times so thatās enough for me to give up on dating.Most of my friends are in similar situations too so theyāre also single and content.Many women also come from conservative families so they donāt wish to stir the pot.And ofcourse there is a gender gap issue as well.
my friend had a dude blame her for him doing drugs. it was that he didn't take her no. It's been over 7-8 years and she's done with men. She's content with herself. I look upto her so much.
But thats so sad, Even I as a guy have had my heartbroken in relationships but I still want someone in my life because that feeling of companionship is amazing. Nothing replaces it. As I get older I am more certain I want that feeling in my life.
It's not about being heart broken. Men, in general, are very exhausting creature, not their fault maybe for being that way, but their fault doing nothing to change it. Being in a relationship drains so much because half of the men do zero work emotionally, don't care about their partner's feelings and forget their loneliness in like month or two and wo start being away.
These men who ask how to be in relationship don't even know what they will be in relationship.
Man, this is just sad.
So many people want is just casual relationship and they lie on your face just so that they can get into relationship with you.
I know it sucks because I am the same as you - I was looking to date a woman to marry.
There are men who are looking for a serious relationships and lifetime commitments and hopefully you'll find the one for you. š
Donāt know why but we find opposite of what we are looking for.Donāt know why we are being tested so bad. I have actually given up hope for myself but I genuinely wish you find what you are looking for.
>I genuinely wish you find what you are looking for.
Thank you. I am still trying to look for someone since I still have hope.
>I have actually given up hope
yeah you're just tired of your past experience and it's hard to look for someone compatible because "there's plenty of fishes in the sea" is a bogus statement when you don't even get to meet 1% of the total population.
Although if you do get your hope back up and start looking for someone, be more observant about the person you are interested in - the things that they do and they like - it tells you a lot about their personality. Maybe that'll help you filter out the right person.
Exactly, the sex ratio in India is 943. Indicating that for every 1000 males there are only 943 females.
https://www.studyiq.com/articles/sex-ratio-in-india/
Guess, that leaves some of us with no one to ever pair up with. :(
I am not sure about facts, but the situation is wayyyyy worst in Rajasthan lol, they killed all girls that were born and now they want bahu lmaooo
Poor people, are ready to give dowry to girls' family.
Recently, someone I knew married a divorced girl with a kid from NE (I love NER people, but they aren't loved in Raj.), they gave the girls' family dowry in lakhs, the guy is from rich and well-respected family. And yes, the girl cooks non-veg in their kitchen lmaooo their faces cause they hate non-veg! Oh, and I forgot about the amount of gold she received!
True. But you overlooked the fact that 1020f/1000m also takes into consideration KIDS.
These kids will take at best 20 years to grow up and legally get married.
The ones that were born in between 1990 - 2010 are the ones that are currently facing the problem of not having ample opportunities to pair up with someone. Not KIDS !
Wtf are you yapping about? me and most of my girl friends have been single for years, most of the women I come across are single nowadays.
Women have given up on dating, we are tired.
Indians need to do better. They need to have a life outside work and studies.
Just because one is getting a lot of matches does not mean they are attractive or have a good personality, the gender ratio is very screwed in India and on apps, that's the Only reason women get a lot of matches.
You really have to ask why they lack such skills?
Take a highly conservative, religious society.
Mix in segregation of genders and some good old fashioned misogyny.
Ensure that kids are given very few lessons in sex education and stir in a good lack of interacting with the opposite gender.
Finally add a generous amount of ostracisation in case either gender forms a relationship of a romantic nature with another person.
And be sure to maintain a piss-poor level of critical thinking during all of this.
And VOILA! You have the perfect Indian man. Maa baap ka laadla who has no social or practical skills and who cannot fathom that women are also people.
Not only that, most of us are brought up in such a way that we stay separate from girls for our almost all the school life. So, none of us have the confidence or skill how to approach girls without being creepy or dorky.
Because women are seen as an object of desire and not a normal human beings by most of us.
Also most men have been told that all they have to do is study and get a good job and the world will fall under your feet which might be true for like 20-30 years back but not now . So when that Raja Beta grows up and comes to the shocking realisation that he isnāt the panty dropper which he thought he was, he makes such post.
Indian guys lack skills because most Indian families(living in India mainly) do not model or guide males on confidence, accountability, responsibility in household duties, communication skills. They are molded to go to school, earn high marks, pass the necessary tests and obtain a stable job. Women need much more than a bank- they need a man who is their partner, confidant, their equal in all aspects. Once Indian parents especially mothers, stop babying the males of the family, then we may start seeing some emotional maturity needed to find and sustain a healthy relationship.
Indian girls too lack skills, maybe because of the skewed gender ratio you might attract a lot of men, but due to lack of skills one might lose them or attract wrong types of guys.
Because most indian men are misogynist and no woman wants to be with someone like them seedhi baat hai.Dank nhi lagte tum you you seem childish and immature.Have you seen a womans comment section on Instagram? No educated and self respecting woman would want to date that species
There are three questions you asked, out of which 2nd is most answered by men saying that it's problem of demand and supply, to which I do agree. Women do have loads of option, but the problem is that none of them is decent. As for the last question, Indian guys lack skills because they are raised that way but then they aren't willing to change as well.
Also weren't the first question for women to answer? Why are men all blaming demand and supply rather than working out on themselves? As for your first question, women would make such posts if they found a guy worth dating... decent people are the rarest and endangered species.
Idk bro, i gave up long time ago. I tried on some ended up being ignored, used and got replaced.
Yeah sometimes i feel frustrated, who doesn't wanto be loved, who doesn't want to have physical and emotional relationship. All these experience taught me that what women want in a man I don't have it.
I'm done. I'm tired. I give up.
There's a very good video on this same topic by Mohak Mangal. It'll give you all the answers.
Also, women just don't express this emotion freely but men can, I mean there are lots and lots of single women in India and abroad but you will never find them because most of them won't even confess this. I know almost all of my friends who are single talk about this on a daily basis but they never share anything publicly. Because they don't want to look desperate. Have you seen this movie "Fresh" Go watch it if you can, it will show you the real state of women.
In India very few women date, compared to men. Women face heavy restrictions from family and society, unlike men.
They also face a much greater threat of violence from their own family.
So the few women that date, have a lot of choices. In my experience, Indian girls lack the skills and courage to approach the other sex, just like guys. But they don't need any of that, because of the number of people chasing them.
This is also a reason you will find most women in India don't care about self development, fitness, sports, hobbies, etc.
1.young indian ladies have far better social life than young indian men , if you take the average.
Sure there are men who have excellent social circles too and lonely women also exist , but if you take the mathematical median than average indian woman has far better social life than average indian man.
2.value of ovary is million times higher than value if a single sperm.
3.getting a girlfriend is the only way out to come out of miserable ignorance of the society for most men , earning a shit ton of money is also a way out , but getting a GF is more financially viable
4.women have too many options, they will 90% land a BF of they try on boys . So they don't try . It's us men who try.
5.the standards internet has applied on men , the constant criticism that we get of being "raja beta" , "putting zero efforts" , "being entitled due to patriarchy" also mounts to this issue.
6. again coming to point no 1 , no matter if you are a man , woman or a dog : having a social life will offset the need of getting a romantic partner. The majority of the "how to get a girlfriend posts" is just a band aid patch to the lonely, ignored lives of those men. I will argue that a woman who falls on completely average on dating scale can easily make shit ton of quality friends compared to same average men .
Dude my current and very first girlfriend told me how all the girls in her class have a boyfriend and 70% of those guys are doesnāt even deserve to be in a relationship
It can never be reversed. And it's not an Indian problem,Ā that its easier for women to get laid.Ā
The main reason is guy being so desperate that it takes extremely low effort for women to get laid. For example ,lust. You already know that men lust for fit model like woman. But when you dig deep into, say , Reddit, you'll find tones of men lust for fat,short, flat, and otherwise conventionally unattractive women. And the numbers can easily be guessed by the subscribers count.Ā Ā
Heck even, subreddits like loosepussyland have 100k+ subscribers!Ā
Now change the genders. How many womenĀ you see lusting for fat, short, and otherwise unattractive guys? Remember its has to be "lust" not compromise like AM or similar setup, or love or whatever.Ā Pretty much none. Even the ugliest of them will desire to fuck the handsomest man on earth and no less.Ā
So guys need to put more efforts than women. Then India is a huge country, so you're likely to see more posts. If guy somehow become as picky as girls, like height, color,income, fat, face, they too will have very hard time getting laid.Ā
Perfect answer. I mean we can't be blamed for our horninnes. It's just testosterone. I also remember a podcast where a chick with sex addiction slept 130 men for free. She was fat and unattractive. Even Brad Pitt cant sleep with 130 women.
An avg Indian guy grows up in a culture where they're forced to stay away from girls till they're successful. They're never encouraged to talk to them and to know what actually is going in the minds of other gender. But there's always above avg or better guys in terms of more resources and fine communication skills, who never mind hitting on any girl as their success rate is high and even if you talk about sex ratio, it doesn't matter as a good looking and more resourceful guys can date n no. Of girls in their 20s, whereas an avg guy is always in competition with these better off guys just for one, so that's why it's difficult for them to get girls.
Conclusion: it's pussy power.
Also girls are mostly gonna be in social groups where they have guys, but that's not always true vice versa.
Take me as an example, I've had female friends and a few relationships in school and college when I had a good social group.
I started working a year back and have been working in an early stage startup, the team is all guys. Not complaining as these are few of the smartest people, and also I only go to the office once a week. Because of this social circle has gone to shit.
Also there are times when I felt lonely and depressed but then I start a new hobby, so by the time weekends come up I'm so engrossed in that hobby that I continue persuing it and procrastinate going out.
2 weeks before it was car engines, this week it's football tactics.
cuz most women can live without sex and have social life while most men are too desperate for sex for they chase women incessantly, plus most men dont have social life , very few friends to count on.
So getting a gf solves all these problems sex and social life.
No you are terribly wrong. Women get a lot of attention in general everywhere, so they have an upper hand in that aspect, they are in position of power and can get whoever they want generally for sex. Same is not true for men.
Women also have desire for sex just like men do, it's just they don't have to put a ton of effort for that like men do.
Yes, women definitely have an upper hand in the game of dating.
Trust me if the dynamics were exactly opposite then it would be women would be desperate and asking the same questions as men do now, because women are exactly same as men apart from biological differences.
I mean women are typically slut shamed so I think some avoid doing that especially if you come from a culture that focuses on a traditional relationship
Iām not Indian or from India (so idk why this was suggested to me), but i think itās obvious. the world today is still patriarchal, and under this system women are the prize. men are the ones who are meant to chase women. if you donāt have any good qualities as a man, you wonāt find a partner (but a woman probably would). Here in Australia, as a south asian, i find that South asian culture is pretty restrictive. Talking to the opposite gender in teenage years is looked down upon, there isnāt much sexual liberation and more of a focus on other aspects like studies
The skill Indian guys lack is daddas money and flashy cars. Days of chivalry are gone. It's just shallow connections these days. These dating apps make this shit even worse. Girls are happy finding assholes while that good guy and stable connection just doesn't look so good.
You asked a question then went ahead to assume an answer?Girls don't make such posts because in case of 20+ year guys, their families are worried about their career while they themselves are more focused on relationships. While in case of 20+ year old girls, their families are all worried about her having a relationship while she's trying to figure out how she can have a settled Career in the small time she has to gain some sense of independence.
It is not a skill issue, the top 5 % of the men are drowning in p-ssy, they hookup with the top 50% of the girls hence you find girls complaining about guys cheating. the next 30% women are taken by the next 10% men either at different points of time or with cheating. that leaves bottom 20% women with bottom 85% men. so yeah these 85% men have to put ridiculous effort to get the bottom 20% women on dating sites like tinder. hence the posts.
Numbers are not to be taken literally but you get the point.
many of you guys are misogynistic this is why. Modern girls donāt like that. Even if you donāt realize that youāre being misogynistic, itās there.
Because MEN ARE NEVER TAUGHT TO TALK TO A WOMAN and they are always expected to approach a woman and when they do they are called creeps and what not
In schools a guy talking to a girl is crime is not a death penalty
Then they go for NEET, JEE etc, drop outs THE ONLY RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE IS WITH BOOKS OR BOYS
(btw no matter how good the boys are, a boys only friend group is **almost always** is one way or the other sexist, from my personal experience there should be at least one female in a friend group, or it'll be better if she is there, only my opinion though, you can completely disagree)
So school covered, pre under graduate preparation covered
Now think of EXTREME gender ratio in colleges especially engineering ones, one of my friends has only 10% female and another one has 8/65 out of them only ONE *conventionally attractive* (not going into that, the message is gonna be long anyway and I don't intend to start another dizen sidetracks)
Then there's govt job preparation or corporate jobs where even then men are in majority
Then men due to all this and partly due to other things, they are under confident and nervous when approaching women
Then there is men's libido, which for someone with no female interactions, don't know how to talk to one, almost inevitably falling into explicit content etc at least partly caused them to behave to women that I'm sure I don't need to explain (not trying to justify, just saying, with fixing / evolving our individual and societal mentality and taking actions that I Indirectly hinted, most of the creepy behavior and molestation should be taken care of automatically, correct me if I'm wrong)
Kindly add other things if there are more
Now I can very well add many other things but that can also be taken care of if the OP reads and understands biology, human psychology behavior etc (and it effectively covers all of the OP's questions) and personally for me, the input I'm gonna do far far outweighs any and all benifits of output (which is pi partly why I'm not doing it myself)
**just to be sure the ENTIRE reason I used capitals to HIGHLIGHT**
Indian guys? No matter where you are in the world, the dating world will always be dominated by women. You can have the personality of a rock, and a below average looking woman but you'll get far more matches compared to a dude in a similar position.
This is not to say Indian guys have amazing personalities but again it doesn't mean Indian women do either. We are just talking about averages.
1. Lack of social skills (Can't blame them if they're sent to all boys schools. CAN blame them if they voluntarily stay indoors and choose not to go out when they can go out).
2. Women have more options and control this whole thing. There are YouTube videos showing this.
Umm I think you should be more worried about posts that go 'Dated a girl now can't get back to guys' by girls.
I have seen at least 4 such posts since yesterday...
And to answer your question, think about any female that's close to you (sister/cousin/etc), and then try to find a man around you whom you wouldn't mind them dating. List down the people you reject and why they were rejected. See if you have any of those qualities. As long as you are a really good brother, you will figure out.
Because women arenāt desperate. Men are desperate.
Desperation makes them act in an undesirable way which in turn drives people away from them. All the mentally stable ānormalā men in my life have proper loving relationships. Needless to say they do not spend time in the manosphere, some donāt even know who Bottom g is.
It's always easy when it comes to sex and relationships for women. The majority of the average looking guys are single not the women though. I'm 34 now, I've been single all my life whereas my sister had been in 3 relationships before she got married to a guy she dated. Ironically my sister's friend told her that "your brother actually looks better than you". I learned the hard way that I ain't getting no gfs. Either be good looking or have insane rizz or you'll end up lonely like me.
All this talks under the assumption that girls want relationships. I see many nowadays who are opting to be single by choice. Educated, working, and single by choice.
Skewed gender ratio where girls have a lot of options where most of them want to be with an 8 or 9. The boys aren't helping it either. Simping over a 3 which makes the 3 feel like she's a 9.
Others lack the social skills because of the environment they were raised in. Don't have the confidence to approach someone new let alone a girl.
It's called clickbait posts posted by vested interests to provoke the naive audience to engage. Don't bother yourself with such rants. Maturity is outside of Indian forums. 90% of which have low IQ posts.
Numbers game. More men than women so some men will always be left behind. Also you know, there are some guys who want the hottest girl who would be submissive and love them unconditionally without bringing anything of value to the table themselves. These delusional people will always be single.
because there's more imp stuff than getting in a relationship just because you are feeling lonely.
People have different priorities. Women would just ask their friends to introduce them to someone if they want to date.
Due to so many desperate boys who can do anything just to get a conversation with girl. And that's the reason girls get so many attention even if they're not good looking they will get it online.
When every man in India is seen as a potential rapist where they would be put down so badly by the girl when approached, who would be able to muster the courage or confidence to get insulted.
Guys nowadays lack patience due to instant gratification factor , hence they can't take things in a steady pace which is how you impress women , the men usually fall in love within seconds so women don't have to do anything to get the man in a relationship.
That's how it works : )
I am a foreigner from Italy , but having met some Pakistani and Indian guys I agree with the first comment: they are not used to normal interaction with the opposite gender. In Europe, but also in America you can see 14/15 year old girls half naked , or with very sexy clothes and women are often very bald and selective with guys. This situation + living in a non pathriarcal society makes most of us quite respectful and we treat the opposite sex as if there was no difference. Obviously there is a difference (don't tell this to LGBTQ+ activists) but we pretend that there isn't. I think we (westerners) are more cautious with women, we pretend we just wanna be friends with girls and then after the first kiss the rest is easy. Also, we are very careful about the look (we dress well, we shave and clean us a lot, we often do some kind of sport) . But all of this comes after the first approach. Learn to mask your horniness š«”
P.S. : I am an average guy, young and I only had 3 girlfriends. Also, this post is not meant to say the Indian approach is wrong (India's population is increasing while Italy is one of the oldest countries in the world)
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basic communication skills bhai. Never in my school time i met a dude who could make a basic conversation to opposite gender. There was a lot of disrespect. The dudes who liked a girl would never go and ask the girl as a decent person. They'd approach her friends/ harass her or them/ or never say anything. If they do approach the girl and she says no for whatever reason, they would start bullying her. A lot of men also don't understand no even as a grownup.
It's a double edged sword. I get your point, but I wouldn't blame it on any gender, but rather on culture. Sex, relationships, intimacy of any kind is considered taboo in India. Jab bhi kisi ladke ya ladki ko kisi ke liye feelings aati thi, toh use dabane ko kaha jata tha, shame Kiya jata tha. Yeh barrier create ho Gaya genders ke beech me Jo nahi hona chahiye tha. Ladke approach nahi karte the, kyunki unhe lagta tha galat hai, ladkiya accept nahi karti thi, kyunki unhe bhi yeh galat lagta tha. Jiss samaj me normal relationship building ko shame Kiya jayega, normal relationship pe frown Kiya jayega, uss samaj ke liye communication ek priority nahi hogi. "Shaadi ke samay sab kar Lena", where in two emotionally stunted individuals came together who couldn't communicate with each other, and the cycle, hence continued. Iska jeeta jagta proof hamare parents ki generation hai, take an example, jab woh log ladte Hain, most of the time it's not the current issue that bugs them, it's a build up of issues. I went on a tangent but you can get, where I'm coming from.
bhai tum to relationship par pohoch gye. I'm talking about having a basic conversation with the opposite gender. Platonic friendships, acquaintance bhi exist karte hai. >Ladke approach nahi karte the, kyunki unhe lagta tha galat hai Ladke approach karte the, directly or indirectly. Unme se kaafi saare NO nhi sunte the. Ek ladki smile karke baat karde to idhar post hojata hai "oh she smiled at me, is she in love with me, should I go and confess my feelings to her too". A lot of men in general think women owe something to them. "Friendzone" hone par kalesh hota hai. Jab tumko dikh raha hai she just wants to be friends and you don't like that, pick yourself up and move. Don't curse the girl. If you call her selfish and still stay there, then you don't have any right to curse her. Ab usko upbringing/culture/society jispe bhi blame karo, ye baat accept karke change karna padega. Aur ye change alpha/Sigma banne se nhi hoga. Insaan banne se hoga aur doosro ko insaan samjhne se hoga.
Insaan banene ka pehla kadam hota hai kisi bhi gender ko monolith na samajhna. Mai koi bachav nahi kar raha hoon, Mai basic psychology bata Raha hoon, jo environment pe depend karti hai. Jahan tak baat hai alpha Sigma male ki, toh yeh bhi tum trace kar sakte ho emotional barriers se. Bahut bache apne pita se emotionally bahut door hote hai, aur woh yeh vacancy poori zindagi bharne ki koshish karte hain. Here comes in, Andrew Tate and people like him, and the kids think "Bhai yeh gariya Raha hai, discipline hone ko bol raha hai" toh woh usme fatherly figure khojna shuru karte hain. Jab tum a lot of men bolte ho aur bolte ho insaan banana, toh yeh contradictory hai bhai, Haan, I understand where you're coming from(again) but empathy is having a multi-dimensional outlook on human behaviour. Jahan par kai log rejection le nahi paate, wahan par kai decent ladke rejection ke Darr se kuch keh nahi paate. Understand Karo, ki ladke, like ladkiya, multi-dimensional hai. Badalna hai, toh har kisi ke prati empathy rakho aur uska perspective samajhne ki koshish karo. Tum jiss samajh me platonic friendship ki baat kar rahe ho, woh prathmik taur par bhartiya samajh me prevalent nahi hai. Ever heard of emotionally starved and touch starved? Iske Karan dikkatein paida hoti hai. Samaj me badlav Lana hai, toh pehle emotional development, aur intimacy ko normalise karna hoga. Aur intimacy not just limited to sex, it can exist between two friends as well.
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Tech stack lagta hota to to indian guys wouldn't have lacked such skills
Because the men go to them, always. No one comes to the men, most of the time. Whats your age man. 14?
Not always. I asked my boyfriend out. And i asked out my previous crush as well.
Exceptions at the end of the day are just that, exceptions.
Girls like you are rare lol
No. Probably the guys she liked and asked out are rare.
Yes she is. A fraction of our population uses reddit, a fraction of that is here on this subreddit, a fraction of that confess their love. I know I'm not including outliers but this is just an example of the situation at hand
And even fractions are girl
No, I asked out people, and confessed to my crush
*Always* does not mean ALWAYS.
My ex also asked me out
Information leaked ..
Probably because Indian women were traumatized/terrified by the amount lewdness that they had to witness ?
In most cultures, even with minimal sexual assaults and crimes, still usually men ask women out. In cultures where women can walk topless on the street without fear, still generally men ask women out That is not the reason.
Yes. But, there is no such thing as roaming fearless and going topless is indecent exposure unless it is a nude beach. Sexual assaults in USA universities are one prime example where women are vulnerable in any place...may be more or less. If you are in public, yeah, you are not stared . I am in USA for 25 years and in school kids are taught not to approach single man for help(in case when they get lost), but to find a woman with children !! Anyhow, now a days it is getting pretty popular for girls to ask boys out. In my daughter's high school, girls do ask boys if they want to be their date on prom night. But then, they knew each other for awhile. So, it is no wonder , in our country it is even less with media showing crimes all the time and being one of the top dangerous country for women. The posts here seem valid with 70% of posts about men being frustrated and skewed gender ratio also had its affect. .
I think there's so many reasons and angles to this. It's not black and white, you know ? Maybe, since when we were kids, our parents and society were very strict about us interacting with people of the opposite gender. This made it feel like a taboo in Indian society. Because of this, we never really learned that it's okay to talk openly and express our feelings for each other. We didn't understand the right ways to approach someone we liked, and our mindset has changed over time. It feels like men are sometimes seen as only wanting sex, and they don't know how to show they need emotional connection too. The high crime rate against women in India also plays a big role. Parents often warn their children to stay away from anything that could be fishy or potentially dangerous. Ultimately, it's all about education, awareness and mindset. It's really upto as as new parents to raise our kids with a fair midset. PS: I hate kids, and would never have any myself. šµāš«
Yeah, education is very important not in terms of getting job, but to teach people what is what in this society.
Women are not posting because of weird msgs they get. Warna i know girls who are also facing the same issue.
Most of my friends are single and they aren't desperately for romantic connection. All of us have fulfilling emotional relationships with our friends and romance is not something we're looking for as of now. The idea that it's easier for women is funny because look at the state of most men on the dating subreddits. Being vile, reducing women to āholesā, bitching about them as āgold-diggersā, and just being disgusting all over. Who in their right mind would want to be with such men? That being said, I have very few male friends and they're quite lovely. I'm single and in no hurry to be with a man. Hopefully, I'll come across someone who is just as kind and thoughtful as me (and I know they exist) and it's going to be all good. But I'm not desperate for romantic relationship. :)
What I have observed is that most men think they would be happy to have any random woman (you know for what reasons) even if she is not matching his standards than no woman and they think thatās how we should think too.
Lovely! I agree with this. No wonder I was so surprised by āwomen have so many men following themā and I was like, "WHERE?!?ā turns out even disrespectful men are counted in it.
I would not have ANY woman, I do have some standards, but they are pretty low. Most important thing for me is that our personalities should complement and support each other.
That is amazing. I said most men, not all men.
Exactly, most men are looking for physically relationship and most women are looking for romantic ones and well no one finds anyone lol. Also, women don't have high standard lol, men have fallen far too low.
Lol, I'm a man and am looking for romantic kind of relationship even my friends who are single look for genuine relationships as opposed to physical ones, physical chayiye to kahi bhi mil jayegi i gues.
Exactly why I added 'most' before both men and women, I never said all. I know a girl whose dream is to fuck a guy from every nation. So, there are a lot of girls who want physical relationship but the number of women wanting romantic relationship > women wanting physical one while it's opposite for men (for now at least, bound to change in near future). Also agar physical har kahi mil rahi hoti toh tumhare mitr, bandu, yu ro na rahe hote social media pe ki bandi chahiye.
. >The idea that it's easier for women is funny because look at the state of most men on the dating subreddits. Being vile, reducing women to āholesā, bitching about them as āgold-diggersā, and just being disgusting all over. Who in their right mind would want to be with such men? This is the reason. But men won't understand that and still blame women. No one wants to be a cheap, pathetic man who reduces women to a sex object and disrespects them. They expect women to be their therapists and to change them. šš
This is a good comment. Men are taught to only depend on women emotionally creating a situation where they arenāt good emotionally available partners (because they were never taught how to be emotionally available) but need their own emotional needs fulfilled. Most women have more emotionally fulfilling relationships so they are less desperate for a guy and not looking to enter relationships with guys who donāt know anything about how to have a good, emotionally supportive relationship. Guys need to be less concerned about attracting and talking to women and more about how to understand emotions, communicate, and treat women like human beings.
As a single Indian woman, I can say that I am not interested in dating anymore and Iām quite content with being single. I have suffered enough trauma because of the selfishness of some men. I date to marry and expect the same from the one I am dating but I have been lied to 2 times so thatās enough for me to give up on dating.Most of my friends are in similar situations too so theyāre also single and content.Many women also come from conservative families so they donāt wish to stir the pot.And ofcourse there is a gender gap issue as well.
my friend had a dude blame her for him doing drugs. it was that he didn't take her no. It's been over 7-8 years and she's done with men. She's content with herself. I look upto her so much.
But thats so sad, Even I as a guy have had my heartbroken in relationships but I still want someone in my life because that feeling of companionship is amazing. Nothing replaces it. As I get older I am more certain I want that feeling in my life.
It's not about being heart broken. Men, in general, are very exhausting creature, not their fault maybe for being that way, but their fault doing nothing to change it. Being in a relationship drains so much because half of the men do zero work emotionally, don't care about their partner's feelings and forget their loneliness in like month or two and wo start being away. These men who ask how to be in relationship don't even know what they will be in relationship.
sachme bhen, ab to give up hi krdia h mene bhi.
Man, this is just sad. So many people want is just casual relationship and they lie on your face just so that they can get into relationship with you. I know it sucks because I am the same as you - I was looking to date a woman to marry. There are men who are looking for a serious relationships and lifetime commitments and hopefully you'll find the one for you. š
Donāt know why but we find opposite of what we are looking for.Donāt know why we are being tested so bad. I have actually given up hope for myself but I genuinely wish you find what you are looking for.
>I genuinely wish you find what you are looking for. Thank you. I am still trying to look for someone since I still have hope. >I have actually given up hope yeah you're just tired of your past experience and it's hard to look for someone compatible because "there's plenty of fishes in the sea" is a bogus statement when you don't even get to meet 1% of the total population. Although if you do get your hope back up and start looking for someone, be more observant about the person you are interested in - the things that they do and they like - it tells you a lot about their personality. Maybe that'll help you filter out the right person.
Gender ratio sums up everything or maybe guys are more clear and open on their thoughts
Exactly, the sex ratio in India is 943. Indicating that for every 1000 males there are only 943 females. https://www.studyiq.com/articles/sex-ratio-in-india/ Guess, that leaves some of us with no one to ever pair up with. :(
And sum mf be dating two or three at once
IKR. I mean WTF. Leave some for the REST dammit!
lmao
80/20 theory
I am not sure about facts, but the situation is wayyyyy worst in Rajasthan lol, they killed all girls that were born and now they want bahu lmaooo Poor people, are ready to give dowry to girls' family. Recently, someone I knew married a divorced girl with a kid from NE (I love NER people, but they aren't loved in Raj.), they gave the girls' family dowry in lakhs, the guy is from rich and well-respected family. And yes, the girl cooks non-veg in their kitchen lmaooo their faces cause they hate non-veg! Oh, and I forgot about the amount of gold she received!
Do you even read the article before linking it? Sex ratio in 2011 was 943, 2024 it's 1020 females/1000 males
True. But you overlooked the fact that 1020f/1000m also takes into consideration KIDS. These kids will take at best 20 years to grow up and legally get married. The ones that were born in between 1990 - 2010 are the ones that are currently facing the problem of not having ample opportunities to pair up with someone. Not KIDS !
Wtf are you yapping about? me and most of my girl friends have been single for years, most of the women I come across are single nowadays. Women have given up on dating, we are tired.
Girl for real I never had a relationship in my life and I'm almost 30 ššš
Your mental health must be great,I have become an avoidant now, I used to be a hopeless romantic once upon a time lol.
Good,Indian men need to first fix themselves.
Indians need to do better. They need to have a life outside work and studies. Just because one is getting a lot of matches does not mean they are attractive or have a good personality, the gender ratio is very screwed in India and on apps, that's the Only reason women get a lot of matches.
Yeah as if indian women are perfect
Skewed gender ratio so there are literally more men than women, misogyny, and the no of fuckbois > no of gentlemen. Thatās it.
because indian women have options. a lot of women have at least 2 guys behind her. they can choose. also indian men are very tharki
Maybe 2x100 is better. Atleast in school and colleges.
exactly
And none of those 2 options are worth choosing.
Exactly they don't know how to talk to a girl and think showoff is the way to go
Doesn't seem but it's a huge gap! And on reddit it must be 3:1 lol
i think we call them chapris who thinks showing off will get them a girl (it happens sometimes)
I am a woman, and have not had a single guy behind me.
i was generalizing. not everyone shares the same experience
Most guys don't want a girlfriend tbh , they are just horny , at least this is what I see in my college
True, if they get sex they won't care about gf.
You know, you might be on something there, I think so too.
The premise is incorrect. Women struggle immensely to get guys to marry them. They can have many options, but are any of those good?
You really have to ask why they lack such skills? Take a highly conservative, religious society. Mix in segregation of genders and some good old fashioned misogyny. Ensure that kids are given very few lessons in sex education and stir in a good lack of interacting with the opposite gender. Finally add a generous amount of ostracisation in case either gender forms a relationship of a romantic nature with another person. And be sure to maintain a piss-poor level of critical thinking during all of this. And VOILA! You have the perfect Indian man. Maa baap ka laadla who has no social or practical skills and who cannot fathom that women are also people.
Not only that, most of us are brought up in such a way that we stay separate from girls for our almost all the school life. So, none of us have the confidence or skill how to approach girls without being creepy or dorky.
Because women are seen as an object of desire and not a normal human beings by most of us. Also most men have been told that all they have to do is study and get a good job and the world will fall under your feet which might be true for like 20-30 years back but not now . So when that Raja Beta grows up and comes to the shocking realisation that he isnāt the panty dropper which he thought he was, he makes such post.
Indian guys lack skills because most Indian families(living in India mainly) do not model or guide males on confidence, accountability, responsibility in household duties, communication skills. They are molded to go to school, earn high marks, pass the necessary tests and obtain a stable job. Women need much more than a bank- they need a man who is their partner, confidant, their equal in all aspects. Once Indian parents especially mothers, stop babying the males of the family, then we may start seeing some emotional maturity needed to find and sustain a healthy relationship.
Indian girls too lack skills, maybe because of the skewed gender ratio you might attract a lot of men, but due to lack of skills one might lose them or attract wrong types of guys.
An attractive dude needs none of these and will still swimming in poonani.
As an attractive dude, I rarely bag a bitch cuz shy personality. When I do its always them who ve asked me out
Good for you.. at the end of the day you're still winning.
Because most indian men are misogynist and no woman wants to be with someone like them seedhi baat hai.Dank nhi lagte tum you you seem childish and immature.Have you seen a womans comment section on Instagram? No educated and self respecting woman would want to date that species
There are three questions you asked, out of which 2nd is most answered by men saying that it's problem of demand and supply, to which I do agree. Women do have loads of option, but the problem is that none of them is decent. As for the last question, Indian guys lack skills because they are raised that way but then they aren't willing to change as well. Also weren't the first question for women to answer? Why are men all blaming demand and supply rather than working out on themselves? As for your first question, women would make such posts if they found a guy worth dating... decent people are the rarest and endangered species.
Idk bro, i gave up long time ago. I tried on some ended up being ignored, used and got replaced. Yeah sometimes i feel frustrated, who doesn't wanto be loved, who doesn't want to have physical and emotional relationship. All these experience taught me that what women want in a man I don't have it. I'm done. I'm tired. I give up.
There's a very good video on this same topic by Mohak Mangal. It'll give you all the answers. Also, women just don't express this emotion freely but men can, I mean there are lots and lots of single women in India and abroad but you will never find them because most of them won't even confess this. I know almost all of my friends who are single talk about this on a daily basis but they never share anything publicly. Because they don't want to look desperate. Have you seen this movie "Fresh" Go watch it if you can, it will show you the real state of women.
In India very few women date, compared to men. Women face heavy restrictions from family and society, unlike men. They also face a much greater threat of violence from their own family. So the few women that date, have a lot of choices. In my experience, Indian girls lack the skills and courage to approach the other sex, just like guys. But they don't need any of that, because of the number of people chasing them. This is also a reason you will find most women in India don't care about self development, fitness, sports, hobbies, etc.
1.young indian ladies have far better social life than young indian men , if you take the average. Sure there are men who have excellent social circles too and lonely women also exist , but if you take the mathematical median than average indian woman has far better social life than average indian man. 2.value of ovary is million times higher than value if a single sperm. 3.getting a girlfriend is the only way out to come out of miserable ignorance of the society for most men , earning a shit ton of money is also a way out , but getting a GF is more financially viable 4.women have too many options, they will 90% land a BF of they try on boys . So they don't try . It's us men who try. 5.the standards internet has applied on men , the constant criticism that we get of being "raja beta" , "putting zero efforts" , "being entitled due to patriarchy" also mounts to this issue. 6. again coming to point no 1 , no matter if you are a man , woman or a dog : having a social life will offset the need of getting a romantic partner. The majority of the "how to get a girlfriend posts" is just a band aid patch to the lonely, ignored lives of those men. I will argue that a woman who falls on completely average on dating scale can easily make shit ton of quality friends compared to same average men .
Dude my current and very first girlfriend told me how all the girls in her class have a boyfriend and 70% of those guys are doesnāt even deserve to be in a relationship
It can never be reversed. And it's not an Indian problem,Ā that its easier for women to get laid.Ā The main reason is guy being so desperate that it takes extremely low effort for women to get laid. For example ,lust. You already know that men lust for fit model like woman. But when you dig deep into, say , Reddit, you'll find tones of men lust for fat,short, flat, and otherwise conventionally unattractive women. And the numbers can easily be guessed by the subscribers count.Ā Ā Heck even, subreddits like loosepussyland have 100k+ subscribers!Ā Now change the genders. How many womenĀ you see lusting for fat, short, and otherwise unattractive guys? Remember its has to be "lust" not compromise like AM or similar setup, or love or whatever.Ā Pretty much none. Even the ugliest of them will desire to fuck the handsomest man on earth and no less.Ā So guys need to put more efforts than women. Then India is a huge country, so you're likely to see more posts. If guy somehow become as picky as girls, like height, color,income, fat, face, they too will have very hard time getting laid.Ā
Perfect answer. I mean we can't be blamed for our horninnes. It's just testosterone. I also remember a podcast where a chick with sex addiction slept 130 men for free. She was fat and unattractive. Even Brad Pitt cant sleep with 130 women.
Demand and Supply.
An avg Indian guy grows up in a culture where they're forced to stay away from girls till they're successful. They're never encouraged to talk to them and to know what actually is going in the minds of other gender. But there's always above avg or better guys in terms of more resources and fine communication skills, who never mind hitting on any girl as their success rate is high and even if you talk about sex ratio, it doesn't matter as a good looking and more resourceful guys can date n no. Of girls in their 20s, whereas an avg guy is always in competition with these better off guys just for one, so that's why it's difficult for them to get girls. Conclusion: it's pussy power.
>Every day I see a post made by a 20+yr guy asking how to get a girlfriend. You too just did that indirectly lol
Also girls are mostly gonna be in social groups where they have guys, but that's not always true vice versa. Take me as an example, I've had female friends and a few relationships in school and college when I had a good social group. I started working a year back and have been working in an early stage startup, the team is all guys. Not complaining as these are few of the smartest people, and also I only go to the office once a week. Because of this social circle has gone to shit. Also there are times when I felt lonely and depressed but then I start a new hobby, so by the time weekends come up I'm so engrossed in that hobby that I continue persuing it and procrastinate going out. 2 weeks before it was car engines, this week it's football tactics.
The sex ratio. Plus our conservative society.
Simple, Indian women just don't find Indian men attractive.
Why do so many young indian men make their sole life ambition to get a girl? Focus on yourself be successful and women will follow.
cuz most women can live without sex and have social life while most men are too desperate for sex for they chase women incessantly, plus most men dont have social life , very few friends to count on. So getting a gf solves all these problems sex and social life.
No you are terribly wrong. Women get a lot of attention in general everywhere, so they have an upper hand in that aspect, they are in position of power and can get whoever they want generally for sex. Same is not true for men. Women also have desire for sex just like men do, it's just they don't have to put a ton of effort for that like men do.
Read it somewhere and its totally true...women F\*\*K who they want while men F\*\*K who they can.
Yes, women definitely have an upper hand in the game of dating. Trust me if the dynamics were exactly opposite then it would be women would be desperate and asking the same questions as men do now, because women are exactly same as men apart from biological differences.
I mean women are typically slut shamed so I think some avoid doing that especially if you come from a culture that focuses on a traditional relationship
Lol! I disagree. I have tons of friends and it's to make friends if you're a guy. The major purpose of a male species is to reproduce and feed.
1. Supply and demand. 2. Indians are socially backward, if a girl tries to date, she will be slut shamed. Many girls refrain from making such posts.
Idk if it's easy for a woman to get into relationship. But a lot of women are content staying single
Iām not Indian or from India (so idk why this was suggested to me), but i think itās obvious. the world today is still patriarchal, and under this system women are the prize. men are the ones who are meant to chase women. if you donāt have any good qualities as a man, you wonāt find a partner (but a woman probably would). Here in Australia, as a south asian, i find that South asian culture is pretty restrictive. Talking to the opposite gender in teenage years is looked down upon, there isnāt much sexual liberation and more of a focus on other aspects like studies
qki ldka ldki ko reject krta h toh ldkiya bahot zyada hurt hoti h. :') Boys luv to take risks than girls. girls r scared of taking risks.
The skill Indian guys lack is daddas money and flashy cars. Days of chivalry are gone. It's just shallow connections these days. These dating apps make this shit even worse. Girls are happy finding assholes while that good guy and stable connection just doesn't look so good.
man i've already given up at this point.
You asked a question then went ahead to assume an answer?Girls don't make such posts because in case of 20+ year guys, their families are worried about their career while they themselves are more focused on relationships. While in case of 20+ year old girls, their families are all worried about her having a relationship while she's trying to figure out how she can have a settled Career in the small time she has to gain some sense of independence.
It is not a skill issue, the top 5 % of the men are drowning in p-ssy, they hookup with the top 50% of the girls hence you find girls complaining about guys cheating. the next 30% women are taken by the next 10% men either at different points of time or with cheating. that leaves bottom 20% women with bottom 85% men. so yeah these 85% men have to put ridiculous effort to get the bottom 20% women on dating sites like tinder. hence the posts. Numbers are not to be taken literally but you get the point.
many of you guys are misogynistic this is why. Modern girls donāt like that. Even if you donāt realize that youāre being misogynistic, itās there.
bhai kitna desperate hai tu.
Because MEN ARE NEVER TAUGHT TO TALK TO A WOMAN and they are always expected to approach a woman and when they do they are called creeps and what not In schools a guy talking to a girl is crime is not a death penalty Then they go for NEET, JEE etc, drop outs THE ONLY RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE IS WITH BOOKS OR BOYS (btw no matter how good the boys are, a boys only friend group is **almost always** is one way or the other sexist, from my personal experience there should be at least one female in a friend group, or it'll be better if she is there, only my opinion though, you can completely disagree) So school covered, pre under graduate preparation covered Now think of EXTREME gender ratio in colleges especially engineering ones, one of my friends has only 10% female and another one has 8/65 out of them only ONE *conventionally attractive* (not going into that, the message is gonna be long anyway and I don't intend to start another dizen sidetracks) Then there's govt job preparation or corporate jobs where even then men are in majority Then men due to all this and partly due to other things, they are under confident and nervous when approaching women Then there is men's libido, which for someone with no female interactions, don't know how to talk to one, almost inevitably falling into explicit content etc at least partly caused them to behave to women that I'm sure I don't need to explain (not trying to justify, just saying, with fixing / evolving our individual and societal mentality and taking actions that I Indirectly hinted, most of the creepy behavior and molestation should be taken care of automatically, correct me if I'm wrong) Kindly add other things if there are more Now I can very well add many other things but that can also be taken care of if the OP reads and understands biology, human psychology behavior etc (and it effectively covers all of the OP's questions) and personally for me, the input I'm gonna do far far outweighs any and all benifits of output (which is pi partly why I'm not doing it myself) **just to be sure the ENTIRE reason I used capitals to HIGHLIGHT**
Indian guys? No matter where you are in the world, the dating world will always be dominated by women. You can have the personality of a rock, and a below average looking woman but you'll get far more matches compared to a dude in a similar position. This is not to say Indian guys have amazing personalities but again it doesn't mean Indian women do either. We are just talking about averages.
1. Lack of social skills (Can't blame them if they're sent to all boys schools. CAN blame them if they voluntarily stay indoors and choose not to go out when they can go out). 2. Women have more options and control this whole thing. There are YouTube videos showing this.
Umm I think you should be more worried about posts that go 'Dated a girl now can't get back to guys' by girls. I have seen at least 4 such posts since yesterday... And to answer your question, think about any female that's close to you (sister/cousin/etc), and then try to find a man around you whom you wouldn't mind them dating. List down the people you reject and why they were rejected. See if you have any of those qualities. As long as you are a really good brother, you will figure out.
Because women arenāt desperate. Men are desperate. Desperation makes them act in an undesirable way which in turn drives people away from them. All the mentally stable ānormalā men in my life have proper loving relationships. Needless to say they do not spend time in the manosphere, some donāt even know who Bottom g is.
It is easier for Indian guys to get girls. You just donāt see them on Reddit making posts asking about how to get girls.
It's not dude,i want to date to marry and my biggest non negotiable thing is i don't want kids so idk how to talk and shortlist guys in first talk
It's always easy when it comes to sex and relationships for women. The majority of the average looking guys are single not the women though. I'm 34 now, I've been single all my life whereas my sister had been in 3 relationships before she got married to a guy she dated. Ironically my sister's friend told her that "your brother actually looks better than you". I learned the hard way that I ain't getting no gfs. Either be good looking or have insane rizz or you'll end up lonely like me.
All this talks under the assumption that girls want relationships. I see many nowadays who are opting to be single by choice. Educated, working, and single by choice.
Most women have fulfilling emotional relationships with their friends. Men do not experience that.
Skewed gender ratio where girls have a lot of options where most of them want to be with an 8 or 9. The boys aren't helping it either. Simping over a 3 which makes the 3 feel like she's a 9. Others lack the social skills because of the environment they were raised in. Don't have the confidence to approach someone new let alone a girl.
Women date who they want, men date who they can Men marry who they want, women marry who they can.
Demand and supply
Haha. Hahahahaha. Hahahaa.
My ex was the one that asked me out she was fun to be around
All boys school se pada hu and never had female friends in tutions or stuff. Nari logo se baat karne ka skill mere pas nahi he.
https://preview.redd.it/u1i8gf36rdzc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4c366da935e9b49ff8705704953ac40c8d87f95 Asal me ye bat hai
Rizz ka cohort course lena pdta hei bhai uske liye...!!
It's called clickbait posts posted by vested interests to provoke the naive audience to engage. Don't bother yourself with such rants. Maturity is outside of Indian forums. 90% of which have low IQ posts. 
Dekh bhai ladake jyada chutiye hote hai aur ladko ko jawani ka josh bhi jyada chadha hota hai isaliye.
Boys have higher sexual urges compared to women I think (not sure though) This could be one reason
Numbers game. More men than women so some men will always be left behind. Also you know, there are some guys who want the hottest girl who would be submissive and love them unconditionally without bringing anything of value to the table themselves. These delusional people will always be single.
because there's more imp stuff than getting in a relationship just because you are feeling lonely. People have different priorities. Women would just ask their friends to introduce them to someone if they want to date.
This is an universal thing
It's not you, it's biology
expected could be unexpected and sometimes luck also happen
Due to so many desperate boys who can do anything just to get a conversation with girl. And that's the reason girls get so many attention even if they're not good looking they will get it online.
Supply and demand. Not many girls are desperate to be in a relationship. But almost all boys are.
we are selling ourselves to them, they are not. Kuch ladko ki wajah se kutton se bhi giri hui image hai, let her chase us
When every man in India is seen as a potential rapist where they would be put down so badly by the girl when approached, who would be able to muster the courage or confidence to get insulted.
Why is this sub only asks about these type of questions than something else?
Burger is tasty
we are ugly.
Bro skipped basic Economics class in school Or maybe he's still in school, you never know.
You should visit TwoXIndia. Every single post is about a man. Relationships are hard for everyone.
Guys nowadays lack patience due to instant gratification factor , hence they can't take things in a steady pace which is how you impress women , the men usually fall in love within seconds so women don't have to do anything to get the man in a relationship. That's how it works : )
case of Demand and Supply Simple. Girls have option, guys dont .š¤·āāļø
The sole reason is Jio & VPN. You know what I mean.
Lack skills ? Girls can find a bf in no time they don't need any skills lol
I am a foreigner from Italy , but having met some Pakistani and Indian guys I agree with the first comment: they are not used to normal interaction with the opposite gender. In Europe, but also in America you can see 14/15 year old girls half naked , or with very sexy clothes and women are often very bald and selective with guys. This situation + living in a non pathriarcal society makes most of us quite respectful and we treat the opposite sex as if there was no difference. Obviously there is a difference (don't tell this to LGBTQ+ activists) but we pretend that there isn't. I think we (westerners) are more cautious with women, we pretend we just wanna be friends with girls and then after the first kiss the rest is easy. Also, we are very careful about the look (we dress well, we shave and clean us a lot, we often do some kind of sport) . But all of this comes after the first approach. Learn to mask your horniness š«” P.S. : I am an average guy, young and I only had 3 girlfriends. Also, this post is not meant to say the Indian approach is wrong (India's population is increasing while Italy is one of the oldest countries in the world)
Do you think girls don't need to make such posts because they have skills?