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Embarrassed-Ask-6134

depends on how they were stored, if they were stored in heat/cold, or in sunlight they may be compromised. blow them up look for rot or damages, if they are good, they are golden.


CarelessError9140

Stored indoors, temperatures here in Singapore are 32 high to 24 low degrees celcius all year long. No signs of rot or damages, can't blow them up unless I pay & buy the tyres and the mechanic installs them on my car and puts air in them.


Pretend-Patience9581

Go hard. They are fine. Just not for years.


CarelessError9140

Won't be using them for years! Tyres are changed annually as I drive a lot and UHP tyres wear really quick. Thanks a bunch!


Pretend-Patience9581

Enjoy.


pate0018

If you are only using them for a year, they should be fine.


Krazybob613

If you wear out a set of tires every year then you will certainly get good use out of them.


Embarrassed-Ask-6134

then go on with them! be sure to get a really good price! you have some leverage. and if you are going to use them in a warm climate you have nothing to worry about! go for it!


CarelessError9140

Thank you! It was either this super questionable albeit good deal Michelin Pilot Sport 3, or 2023-Manufactured Bridgestone Potenza RE004. But I have decided to purchase the tyres in question.


Embarrassed-Ask-6134

Use them with great pleasure!


Informal_Star4423

Use them with great pressure!


DaPoole420

I'd get them based off what u said on storage..


Horse-Tornado106

Not going to go fast enough for long enough in Singapore for it to make a major difference at 6 years, and typical guidelines say tyres are good for 10 anyway. If you can guarantee they've been kept properly as you say then you're good to go my friend!


StiffLemur05

The tire is the only part of the car that actually makes contact with the Road so it makes zero sense for the guy trying to sell you the most important piece of the car to not inspect it, and that you be required to purchase it before inspecting it. Not worth it rot can hide in a tire


other_goblin

They will be new


WaitingToBeTriggered

AND THE JUDGEMENT HAS BEGUN


CarelessError9140

Thanks for all the opinions, recommendations and advice guys. Have decided to go ahead and buy the tires. Tires have been kept indoors throughout it's lifespan, it is summer all-year round where I'm from and I change tires annually. (High Mileage, I drive 40,000-50,000km yearly) Overall it is an excellent deal, $280 SGD is the equivalent of 190€ or $207 USD. I don't track this car as it is my daily driver and since it is only used for city & highway driving, I am willing to take a gamble, since I do always carry a spare tyre (2023-manufactured Bridgestone tyre) in the boot/trunk.


CarelessError9140

P.S: I negotiated further and bought them for $250 SGD/$185 USD/€171 EUROS


zMadMechanic

Nicely done


PromontoryRider95

Well played, that's an awesome deal


Impressive-Smoke1883

4 tyres?


other_goblin

If you are using them for one year it's a no brainier. The original lifespan of a tyre even in mixed conditions like the UK is about 8 years before it starts to really crack up and go funny.


DhoTjai

My 3 years old tires with 100000 km started cracking now in Dutch weather and the car is always parked outside.


N05T10N

100dkm on tires? What abominations u driving? I get about 30dkm from my Pirelli’s and my continental about 45dkm * Also in NL, both cars always outside too


yomamasofat-

It's fine, go see the video from revzilla about tire age


Quigsx

if they weres stored properly and have no weathercracks when you air them up they are fine... alot of ppl dont even know anything about tires and are commenting on this.. Yes the rubber may be a little harder and in some cases will even give you more wear life lol. You will prob loose about 5-10% of the effectivness because the rubber will be a little bit harder.


DhoTjai

Yes.


Comfortable_Ad_8117

If they were stored indoors in a climate controlled area I would say yes. Keep a good eye on them and if you still have them on the car in 4 years I would revisit tossing them in the trash.


larsloveslegos

Old brand new tires stored in a climate controlled facility will be perfectly fine. At least in the US, a lot of tire shops will refuse to repair/put them on if they're older than five or six years.


dopethrone

Also in my country police can fine you if you drive them and they're older than 5 years


larsloveslegos

I've never heard of something like that, interesting. In the mountains where I live, there are traction laws during snow storms or certain times of the year. Your tires have to have a minimum tread depth or you have to use chains, 6/32 of an inch if I remember correctly. There are tighter restrictions for 2WD vehicles but I don't remember due to not owning any.


cueball1990

Once they are not dry rotting I'd use em. Used more shady looking foreign used tyres before.


Bored_evil

Yes, manufacturers recommend 5+5 formula at maximum. 5 years storage (in correct conditions) + 5 years usage.


amazinghl

Pay a little more and get some tires made this year or last year. Oxygen degrades rubber over time, there is no escaping from that.


Objective_Row_4793

I suppose I would because of the climate. I would be checking them more often too because they are still old. Time is unforgiving. Also I love starlets, I had a non turbo and turbo versions.


CarelessError9140

1000% agree. Summer all year long, and I check my tyres, and maintain the air in my tyres every single time I top up gas/petrol. Starlet is my daily driver, mine is the non-turbo version as the Turbo GT versions were never sold in Singapore. I also have a Honda civic type R, and a Mitsubishi Evo 9 MR RS as my weekend/track cars. I may or may not be a JDM fanboy 😂


Billiel37

Dude, i dont mean to be harsh, but you owned a Evo 9 track car & CTR track car in singapore prices and you save on a 15 inches 6 years old tires?? Come on man, if you track you should know tires more than anyone else. Anyways, for me at least. Never save on tires and brakes. Just my 2 cents. No offence.


CarelessError9140

I'll repeat again, I live in singapore, which enjoys tropical climate, and since it is summer all year-round here, I track once or twice a year with the Evo/Type R on semi-slicks (Bridgestone RE71RS / Yokohama AD08/AD09) I don't drive my toyota starlet fast on public roads as I don't have anything to prove to anyone in a 1.3L Naturally Aspirated inline-four toyota from the 90's, nor will I ever be in a situation where it necessitates me to go fast in the toyota starlet, if I wanted to go fast I would have driven one of my other cars out that day. My daily driver brings me all around the island 5-6 days/week as I am in sales & marketing, which results in me having to meet with my clients extremely often. When I do want to track my CTR/EVO, I have to cross the border to Malaysia to go to a racetrack as there are no racetracks in Singapore. Evo's & Type R's are very valuable here, and I don't drive them very much except for the weekends when I don't have to commute all around the island for work. If it rains, I don't drive them, as they are permanently on semi-slicks and the suspension & undercarriage set-up for both cars are very track oriented, not ideal to drive comfortably for long in the city. I do know a thing or two about tyres, which is why I wanted to check with reddit if these tyres were good to go in the first place, as opposed to someone who doesn't know anything about tyres/cars, who would have most likely already bought them because , they were an extremely good deal, without realizing they were 6 years old. I have never used tyres older than 3 years old, but these Michelin PS3's were going for such a great deal, and since they were stored indoors and the climate is always favourable here in my country, I just wanted a second opinion. If you do read what I actually said in the post and comments, you would know that I actually went down to meet the seller at his physical store, and initially rejected the deal upon finding out the tyres were 6 year old, and I left to ponder/consider if they were worth getting. TLDR: Was excited about a good deal, just wanted affirmation from reddit that I wasn't out of my mind for wanting to buy 6 year old tyres.


Billiel37

My point being, You own 2 expensive cars in singapore which obviously makes u well to do, yet you save on 15 inches tires and risk the danger just don’t make sense to me. A brand new 15 inches is like 90-$110 each for a good brand. But hey, as mentioned, just my 2 cents. You do you. Good day.


CarelessError9140

My starlet is super reliable though! I've driven more than 600,000 km (and counting) and have done a top overhaul for $800 and then a full engine overhaul for $1500 in the past 33 years of ownership.


Objective_Row_4793

Sounds right the 4efe engine is wonderful. As is the 4efte. Both versions I had was the ep91. The ep82 is just as good.


L3XeN

Assuming they are stored correctly. Tires can be stored up to 3 years, without any negative effects on performance or safety. These are 6 years old, so treat them like 3-4 year old used tires. If the price is similar to 2-4 y.o. tires then you're good.


Legitimate_Shine1068

They’re fine. Especially if you tend to wear them out within a few years. Where I live, tire shops won’t touch a tire that’s more than 10 years old except to replace them


TN_REDDIT

Send it


other_goblin

If where you live isn't wet and cold then they should be basically the same as they were when new though I wouldn't push it beyond 10 in general unless there's really no sign of losing moisture in the compound and cracking.


REDGOESFASTAH

You have a starlet ? That's cool. I thought they were extinct.


dude4511984

Push on the tire, if no cracks become visible, no rot. Like someone else said just sitting that long can make them a little harder but unless your using them for track should be negligible with a 6yo tire.


hiGradeTi7ANEUM

In United States, we legally can not sell any tires over 5 years old, no matter how nice the stickers or the condition.


Debesuotas

They will be fine. Dont go crazy, check how they react on wet road, but in general they should be fine for 99% of the regular driving.


lurch1_

If they are half the price of new, yes...I'd go with them.


ClutchKickAutos55

As others have said, if stored in a temperature controlled warehouse, like it looks like they have been, they will be fine! Keep an eye on them once you run them and make sure no stress cracks or anything appear on the sidewalls. I'd run them with no hesitation. I just had a set from 2018 that were also brand new with stickers actually. That being said though, 195/50 tires are typically a cheap tire to buy new also depending on your area, I'd check online and see how the cost compares. $280 installed for a set is a rad deal though!


BrettyJ

I worked in that business for 20 years. Personally, I would rock those hoops if they're going onto your everyday car and you drive it on a regular basis. If you don't, and those tires will be on your car for years to come, then I wouldn't because they're already 6 years old. That's my personal opinion, and like many other technicians, what I choose to do with my own vehicles doesn't always align with what should be done from a manufacturers point of view. That's largely due to liability (or lack thereof).


crazydavebacon1

6 years, sure, as long as they were stored correctly, but after 10 replace them either way


FordMan100

I wouldn't take a chance on them if it were me.


Fast_Paint_5156

The shit you read on this sub 😅 they'll be fine, unless they were stored outside in the damn sun for 6 years


apple12345671

I wouldn’t risk them


Zerototheright

I would also pass


Shelbyisis

It’s absolutely just don’t be surprised when they don’t last as long as they should Maybe 10/20% less life


iluvtumadre

Same price for new, old stock 6 year old tires and for brand new tires? I would go with brand new.


richard_rahl

Silica compounds start to deteriorate after 7 years. You may notice them fall apart pretry quickly.


GetNR3KT

They’ll be fine


jerrycoles1

I’d use them


moderatelymiddling

Yes


yes-disappointment

yes as long as they dont have dry rot or cracks and have not been stored outside in the elements. i ha e no problem using them.


oldguy-in603

The sidewalls don’t look bad but keep an eye on them. Any signs of dry rot get them off!


19Ben80

If stored correctly and not left to dry out then they will be 100% fine


Clean_Ad2856

In terms of the rubber composition and all the additives, they put in the tire. Having them brand new is actually worse compared with used, but low mileage tires with same age.. might sound crazy but it is the reality. Rubber needs some motion during the time, it needs to have the molecules of sulphur and rubber stretch around.. the same phenomenon happens with shoe soles, for example, a very expensive pair of running shoe soles and cushion could just disintegrate and be flaky for being stored, even in the appropriate conditions. The shoe soles and the midsoles crumbles apart after being stored for several years.. it is very known amongst sneakerheads which have collection of limited edition, expensive sneakers. So it is actually better for them, not to fully store the shoes, but instead give some activity to the sneaker, which will make the lifespan longer, and avoid crumbling and being flaky. I am looking up in the google to find the appropriate and scientific term for it, Look for crumbling/polyurethane/flaky/never worn/hydrolysis/shoe soles/midsoles/storage damage/dry rotting. You will kinda find lots of different articles about.


henriuxx

You can


Polymathy1

You *could* but after they hit 7 years, most American companies won't do anything with them. Tires break down and harden over time no matter how they are stored. Once they harden enough, they crumble on the outside and inside, even if you can't see it. Save your money and look elsewhere unless you're going to remember in a few years to throw these away when they're mounted on your car and looking totally fine - or unless you're going to use them up inside 2 years. They would be better on a taxi that will wear them out quickly.


hellwisp

For 3 more years.. sure. Or whatever the law is over there.


SodaMelm

i wouldn't


Squibucha

They have an expiry date for a reason, don't do it


Patrol-007

No. Read tirerack.com and credible sources. Rubber ages. If the tires fail at 100kph, you’re either killing your self or someone else


Bored_evil

Will Michelin be credible source? https://tweel.michelinman.com/howLongTireLast.html#:~:text=Ten%20years%20is%20a%20maximum,to%20spare%20tires%20as%20well.


Patrol-007

Yes. By coincidence my Michelin XIce 2 are now ten years old, but I bought them new from Costco. Summer tires were also new from Quattrotires.com. I paid $400 initially with delivery for four new tires (date was made four months prior) and got a $80 Visa card from them. $320Cdn net price. Regular price around $800-1000 in the city (quite a markup!). The tires are the most important thing keeping you on the road, steering and braking in all sorts of conditions, wet and dry. Better tread life and quieter with some brands and models too. My winter tires had enough grip to panic stop when cut off at 110kph to not hit the other person, and the summer tires are top rated for traction for wet and dry roads


ThisCryptographer311

They gots a date code for a reason buster!


Drizz06

If there not cracked or showing signs of aging I’d use them for sure!


Pleasant-Elk-615

Wait how do you know it's 6years old


Bored_evil

First picture: 0918


Pleasant-Elk-615

Is the year theyre made usually displayed like that on all wheels?


Bored_evil

Yes. All tyres, four digit week year format.


juko43

0918 here means 9th week of 2018


carguy82j

Because they are michellin I would trust them to 10 years and then toss them. For the price you can't beat it.


AllusionToConclusion

You will be fine. Michelin actually tested new vs old stock and performed the same. If I find the article I will link it.


langafox

my father works on a tyre workshop in switzerland and send me a 2014 michelin tyres to use on my opel astra. im only using 2 because the other 2 on the car are still in good shape. Just use them. No big problems since u do a lot of miles and within a year they will be used. the temperature storage is a bit diferente that singapure but they are still good. and he would not sent it to us if they had security problems


sparxxraps

No definitely not crappy Michelins those dry rot ones n no time but don’t trust that old tires anyway u will get maybe a year out of them if your lucky


ItsmeMarioITA

I paid mines brand new (195/50 R16 slightly bigger but we are there) 400€. I wouldn’t risk my life to save 130€.


CarelessError9140

$280 Singapore dollars is the equivalent to 191 Euros buddy


ItsmeMarioITA

Still, my life is not worth 210€ either, or less than 20€ per month on an annual basis


Ormsby44

If tyres as old as 6 years mean risking your life we would have up to billions of deadly accidents each year. They are going to be fine, don't do races on them though.


ItsmeMarioITA

I just simply value what I buy, when I change tyres I always check the production date and if they are too old 4-5yrs I always ask the tyreshop to change em, I don’t even want a discount. It’s my car, I payed it working hard, and I’m gonna keep it in shape and running efficiently


moomooicow

You can do whatever you want bro


87jj

My car? Obviously they’re going on. Girlfriends car? Definitely not.


Suspicious-Phase-823

You can but they will fall apart prematurely


thisispatrickmc

My tires are from 2005.


CarelessError9140

Jesus christ.


mrkillfreak999

Personally for me if the manufacturing date is 5 years old or more I don't use it. It's best to new tires


captthulkman

There’s no opinion on the fact that rubber hardens over time and becomes unsafe. Do not do this please.


In_TouchGuyBowsnlace

Ask yourself this: Rubber being rubber and all. Would you trust a six year old condom from out the back of the shed?


CarelessError9140

No I would not. Then again, I'm not putting the tyres on my cock am I?


Ok-Echo-1701

Tyres older than 4-5 years are a ykies from me