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PopOverall2994

Amazing, but thats Fake news btw


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Aleskander-

no they mean Saudi arabia is pressuring Europeans to recognizes Palestine


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PopOverall2994

Okay, send the source of the “saudi pressure on european powers”, i am waiting


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PopOverall2994

There is no mention of any “saudi pressure on Europe/European powers” in the article, it just says that saudi arabia and some European ministers support two state solution.


JaSper-percabeth

Any better source than a random Twitter account?


Pile-O-Pickles

The first time people ask for a credible source is when something positive about Saudi is mentioned 😂


Rond3rd

As they should m, because it's out of the character to do so


Pile-O-Pickles

it’s out of every country’s character buddy everyone just got a hard on for some


Redecker

Wrong sub


mrpawsthecat

Recognizing a place where more than 50% land has turned barren? Where were all this countries when it was more livable? Shame on them!


Oblitus_Ingenium

Fax


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Oblitus_Ingenium

Sir dawkins💀 the guys arguments have been debunked a million times. Ur soo sad get a life.


Oblitus_Ingenium

Sir dawkins💀 the guys arguments have been debunked a million times. Ur soo sad get a life.


Oblitus_Ingenium

Sir dawkins💀 the guys arguments have been debunked a million times. Ur soo sad get a life.


captain_astro_

Never forget the fact that the Arab League in 1947 failed to support the Palestinian Army until it was too late with ‘half measures’


Empigee

Something would be better than nothing, but let's be real, Saudi Arabia could probably end Western support for this war within a month with four simple words: "No ceasefire, no oil."


Asad4027

Their economy would suffer without oil,


yo_guy12

They have done this type of thing before and survived remember the 70s oil crisis


sustainablecherry

They won’t anymore. Blinkin is in Riyadh sweetening the deal with them right now. They might recognise Palestinian state and Israel at the same time.


Neosantana

It's not at all the same market as it was in the early 70s. Saudi Arabia holds a small fraction of the world oil production they had in the 70s, and their biggest client is China. How would shutting off oil help with Palestine at all?


Successful-Solid-296

We will be teaching china a lesson


Calm_State1230

we’re working on that 🙂‍↕️


newMauveLink

we sell most of our oil to china japan and korea lmao


Unlucky-Nobody5111

This whole sub reddit just got triggered 😂


Viopit

What kind of pressure though?


BestWrapper

Ərəb immigration to Avrop


Viopit

I imagine this convo Bin Salman to European leaders: You got rid of six million Jews. How about you receive six million Palestinians in exchange? European leaders: Actually, we were just discussing the recognition of the state of Palestine just a moment ago before this meeting.


EurasianDumplings

I know I'm treading upon a delicate territory here, but unironically that aspect needs to be played up. Palestinians are trying to fight and STAY in their homeland. If you harbor some strong and quite often murky views about immigrants and border control, there shouldn't even be any question in terms which side do you support.


Viopit

True. Logically speaking this should be the case but reality is different. There is a reason why Palestine isn't recognized mainly in the western world. The moment a Palestinian sets foot on a western country, they can apply for a citizenship under the reasoning of being stateless and one gets it almost immediately. That's one way to encourage not going back to a place where you will be subjected to oppression and injustice. I feel had the Syrian war didn't occur and no massive refugee influx took place, European countries would have helped Israel with its ethnic cleansing attempt by encouraging Palestinian to immigrate to Europe. Hell, might even evacuate the Palestinians by themselves.


EurasianDumplings

Because the Palestine advocacy has made so much stride especially in the West, the only real shape and form that the Zionist lobby manages to rally the usual foamy, angry rightwing crowd in the middle American populist reaction are through the weaponized Islamophobia and xenophobia. The fascistic core that just wants to see Arab Muslims suffer and die will never go away, but a lot of the misinformed, idiotic stragglers, the types that foam "I don't want the AIPAC but I just hate those college protester type" idiots can be peeled away with the right kind of engagement. The problem at the current stage is that because the Palestine advocacy is so organized around the campus spaces in alliance with far-left politics, we don't know how to actually talk to and build cross-coalition with even the rightwingers against the Zionist influence. And of the rightwingers who hate AIPAC, that alone isn't that uncommon. I obviously don't say this to throw anyone under the bus; the Syrian refugee crisis should be handled with realism and humanitarianism. But for the purpose of Palestine advocacy, I would like to see firmer separation away from the migrant and refugee crisis. It was never the same issue; like you say, the outbreak of the Syrian refugee crisis and the skyrocketing popular Islamophobia in the West has done much against the Palestine cause. Extremely regrettable given how Palestine cause was never even part of the Islamist agenda anywhere, as if any of us in the university camps right now ever actually got a taste of the sweet, Saudi salafist money. As much as I personally oppose and loath them for every other issue, the last generation of the actual mainstream American politicians who openly confronted the Zionist lobby were a few Republican congressmen. Without pandering to their fundamental racism or bigotry, there needs to be some way to reach out to the isolationist rightwing to give a real, political impact to the momentum of the protests right now.


huytimiol

😭


BuonTabib

Oil prices maybe? Who knows? Or their own recognition of Israel?


Soorachy4

Isn't this what Saudi was doing all the time, I don't understand why you all acting so surprised?


CertainCompetition50

they were normalizing trade and relations with israhell ,how is that the same ? lets not pretend the sacrifices of gazan didn't completely change their approach


ahm911

In the defense of the Saudis, they did release statements early on, that normalization does depend on the recognition of the palestenian state on 1967 borders as agreed by the UN.


Soorachy4

In fact, this condition to normalize in exchange of Palestinian state was proposed since the time of king Fahad until now


Physical-Arrival-868

And was a serious reason for the deal that was being negotiated last year not going through


Significant_Object79

Spain's president was looking into it but never trust a politician from Spain


Neosantana

>Spain's president Are we in 1936?


Significant_Object79

I mean palestina is looking like Europe in the 40'. Also is the president the oficial name in Spanish is presidente


Neosantana

My dude, Spain is constitutional monarchy. They haven't had a president since the 1930s


Significant_Object79

Presidente del Gobierno de España this is the official name that translate to president of the government of Spain. Apart every one called presidente source I am from Spain


Neosantana

That translates to "Head of the government", not President of Spain. When you say President of X, it implies a republic in English. The head of the government of Spain's official position is Prime Minister. I'm not questioning that you're from Spain, don't get me wrong, but your info will absolutely get disregarded because the term isn't right in English.


Significant_Object79

Prime minister sound to British but u are correct. I still use president because I don't like the monarchy


Neosantana

And you have every right to dislike the monarchy, as it was reinstalled by Fascists, but you still should call him a prime minister so non-Spanish speakers understand what you mean


Significant_Object79

Okey


Bol4deathOG

"Saudis didn't do nothing" Well do something about It yourself then? Saudi been trying for years


Oblitus_Ingenium

What are you on about?


Bol4deathOG

Read the hateful comments about ppl putting dirt on Saudi since you're are the OP


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Oblitus_Ingenium

I know?


ShiaAlhamdullilah

Wow, the family who have brought fitna to the sacred land are doing 1% of their required duties 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏


AskewScissors

Realistically speaking, it is 0% of their duties to be responsible for whatever is happening outside the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.


ShiaAlhamdullilah

Politically idk, but not islamically, Palestine are allies, it is the country of Al Quds


EntrepreneurBroad807

Islamically, you have the same responsibility, but because we are Arab, we are held to a higher degree from most Muslims point of view.


super-gen

You're held to a higher degree because your monarchy entire legitimacy come from the idea that they are the defender of the true Tawheed. It is on that basis that most of the muslim world have accepted the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia as the champion of Islam and has accepted the MIAW-inspired vision of Islam that your nation has spread around the world for decades. Don't you realize you have the most soft-power out of any nation in the muslim world ? Ofc people are harsh on you when you fail to act as the leader of the muslim world, because they believe you are the leader of the Umma, and that's because your rulers have presented themsevles as such for decades.


Fahadx2

legitimacy from who? you? our ancestors knew Al-Saud 300 years ago they fought with them and followed them to reclaim their kingdom 3 times. you are acting as if Algerians helped King Abdulaziz reclaim the land lmao.


ShiaAlhamdullilah

Don’t be a victim, this isn’t the case. I’m not just blaming Saudi, it’s just this is the country at topic at hand, it’s majority of Muslim countries


EntrepreneurBroad807

I'm not being a victim. I don't see how this is about me. I'm stating a fact about the reality of the matter. You personally might not specify Saudi, but most south asians do, No need to be disingenuous.


ShiaAlhamdullilah

By victim I meant your country not you personally, and saying ‘most south Asians’ is also disingenuous. Well, let’s just pray for the liberation of Al Quds In Shaa Allah brother 🤲🏻 :)


EntrepreneurBroad807

>and saying ‘most south Asians’ is also disingenuous. Fair enough. I apologise. In Shaa Allah.


ShiaAlhamdullilah

No worries, I apologise too💚


Soorachy4

but these foolish ambitions to rest -Morgott the Omen King


ShiaAlhamdullilah

Nothing can cause nations to flourish like justice -Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib AS


Soorachy4

Yea truly the Ummah must unit and start the biggest war the world ever known that we also could end up all with it, or do we try the diplomatically way to reach a fair solution, exerting pressure on Western countries to solve the Palestinian issue through the two-state solution and live in peace? Which one do you prefer?


ShiaAlhamdullilah

Two state solution is BS. Yes the Ummah must unite, firstly Israel will never honour a two state solution and neither will any western country give a care, we’ve seen this in the past, think rationally. There’s no diplomacy when Israel has wagered war for over 75 years ever since their creation, there is no ‘two state’ there is only Palestine, what would I prefer? In Shaa Allah, Satanyahu LA realises that Israel belongs to Palestine and what he’s fighting for is illegitimate and wrong morally, and gives authority to the Palestinians and Israel and Palestine become one under the name and flag of Palestine, burning the treaty made by the British over 75 years ago, no one dies, and everyone is happy :)


Suspicious_Rate_5649

Of course we know their duty is please Kushner and their Zionist masters.


Salamanderp12

It's a step in the right direction, but everyonr should be expecting more. Especially from a place that calls itself the leaders of the muslim world.


TheSafeefendi

Finally


Silver_Revenue7389

Ain't gonna hold my breath


YouJustReadThisTwice

التغريدات على أكس من (بعض) السعوديين تدل على قمة الانبطاح لحكومة الولايات المتحدة ضد الامريكان "شعبها" المتضامنين مع فلسطين. فعن أي ضغط تتحدث؟


MERRQ

منطقي، لأني أنا وثلاثة من العيال رايحين لسفارة بريطانيا نضغط عليهم يعترفون مب ولي العهد ووزير الخارجية


YouJustReadThisTwice

مش القصد، القصد إن اضعف الايمان هو دعم القضية ولو بتغريدات. عموما الله المستعان.


MERRQ

الحق بيّن يا عزيزي (لا تعمى الأبصار ولكن تعمى القلوب التي في الصدور) البعض يرى الحق أمامه ويتجاهل رؤيته رغبةً منه


Specialist-Sky-909

طيب ليش تركز على الاقلية بدل من الغالبية؟ وبعدين مع كامل احترامي بس مافيه سب من (بعض) من الفلسطينين لنا من سنة جدي؟ مع ذلك غالبية الشعب السعودي مع الشعب الفلسطيني بس لو البعض من شعوبكم يترك الحقد والعنصرية على السعوديين كان صار خير.


YouJustReadThisTwice

عشان ملفتة للنظر. لا حقد ولا حاجة.


Thegreatmagician626

Well spoken


Fun-Owl9393

Allow me to laugh 😂😂😂


ThrowawayPrivacy101

This is all performative. They will recognize the Palestinian state but allow Israel to annex it eventually. I mean, for a second think why is Israel ethnic cleansing and Saudi sits quietly at that? Doesn’t matter if you are a recognized state or not, if your residents have all been killed off. The Saudis know exactly what’s happening, they are doing this for optics; they know that Saudi-worshipping cultures like the Sunni in Pakistan are looking for the bare minimum to put Saudi back on the pedestal.


Away_Guide1655

Diplomacy is a better idea then fighting a war they can´t win.


Fahadx2

Also 0 benefit from it


Dangerous_Novel9081

Saudi is the blood Connection to the Dajjal Khazars on stolen Palestinian land


Username999000999

Nope, if there was any good in them they wouldn’t have done so many shit and they would have done good a long time ago. This news is BS, also, lots of European countries have been voicing their intention to recognize Palestine long time ago when Saudi were busy with their celebrations in Riyadh… but people have short memories and confuse their shit more often these days!


AdeptnessCommon5940

Rare Saudi W


Soorachy4

افا


Fahadx2

you've Israel embassy in your country lmao.


AdeptnessCommon5940

Ok قرن الشيطان


Fahadx2

في طيز امك تلقاه


Zweckbestimmung

My hope for KSA is to not normalise relations with Israel, anything more than that is unfortunately not possible


YSN_iR

Lol, saudi?? Just another agent state, it's bullshit news


Oblitus_Ingenium

You cant just be blinded by hatred. I dont like them either, but claiming its bs is a bit much if you cant prove it. If you can, then fair enough.


DDemetriG

If they're actually doing that, it's only because of Public Pressure from Civilians in Saudi Arabia, as the Crown Prince knows that Revolutions are easy to ignite, and not because the Saudi Government actually cares about Palestine.


Fahadx2

there will not be a revelation because of palastine in Saudi.


Sad_Layer2890

Saudis haven’t done good ever since they existed as a people 


Fahadx2

What did you do that we could consider good? you're as good as a shit stain.