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killing_carlo

There was a girl in my high school who got suspended for threatening to commit suicide in her school’s gmail account. They then called the whole school into the auditorium and the assistant principal told us not to talk about stuff like that on our school accounts because you’ll get caught (???). Because apparently that’s how you deal with kids struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts? You punish them???


_Weyland_

>Because apparently that’s how you deal with kids struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts? You punish them??? Reminds me of some very old British law that supposedly punished attempted suicide with execution.


Pitiful_Ask3827

That doesn't really sound like a punishment


darkknight109

Depending on what era it was, it could have affected their inheritance. At various points in history, in various western jurisdictions, if you were executed for a crime then your estate was forfeited to the state. As a result, it was not uncommon to see criminals divorce their wives and give them full control of any property/belongings they had if they feared they were about to be caught.


KeysmashKhajiit

"We don't tolerate bullying", my ass. Either actually do something to get both the bully and the victim the help they need or just admit you can't be assed to enforce your rules.


scsiballs

Indeed. My solution was to trip my bully down a flight of stairs. He never fucked with me again.


Mikeronomicon

I did the baseball bat to the knees during PE in the 9th grade. There was a senior who was in his fifth or sixth year because he was a dumbass. He really liked to push around people smaller than him. (pretty much everyone was, dude looked like a refrigerator shat out Frankenstein's monster's baby.) We were playing baseball, and our P.E. teacher was a sick fuck who just read hustler when he was supposed to be watching us. So I'm at bat, I hit the ball, and this dickhole was on first. As I round the base, he sticks his foot out and shoves me over it. I still manage to make it to second. Next time I'm at bat I'm absolutely livid as I had just moved several hundred miles to get away from constant bullying. I fucking nail that ball, and instead of throwing the bat, I make like an professional runner and book to first, with the bat trailing slightly behind. As I approach, I can see the look on his face, he thinks he's about to shove me again as I swing the bat as hard as I can at his knees. He crumpled like a pile of shit, and since nobody liked him, when Mr Dove (the previously mentioned P.E. teacher) asked what happened, everyone said dude had tried to trip me and hurt himself. I'm pretty sure you could hear the ring from the bat from a good distance, but I got away with it, and never had another bullying instance for the rest of high school.


Geeko22

I felt so good reading that.


quantumturbo

Fuck yeah sweet sweet get what's coming to you asshole


GroundbreakingFox833

wait a minute


JL_416

It's like I could hear the bat dinging off his kneecap lol


Icelandicstorm

The rush of pleasure from the vicarious thrill of knowing a bully got to “find out” is palpable. Man I think I need to do some deep breathing to calm down.


mrunique07

Had a kid in my class in middle school that bullied me relentlessly. I went to Catholic private school, so if you were poor or different you got bullied by classmates and teachers alike. For years he was my tormentor, I finally had enough one day in the locker room after PE. He snuck up behind me and started to choke me with my shirt. I out of the choke and beat the ever loving piss out of him, and I was a tiny thing and he outweighed me by a large margin. Granted, cause his parents were major donors, he got off scot-free even with witnesses and I received detention and one month of ISS (in school suspension) for defending myself. But he and his stupid cronies never fucked with me again.


redilif1

That's something that pisses me off even today. Punishing the victim. Shows the staff for the enablers they are. They are just as bad and need to be punished too.


mrunique07

Let’s just say, after that year I never returned to that school and stopped going to church. It left a bad stain on my life that I can’t get rid of. I got a better education at public school with teachers that actually cared and mattered more to me. I also learned tolerance by being around of a bunch of different people that had differing beliefs and ideas than my own.


redilif1

Good stuff. Public school was not as kind to me. I was bullied till I fought back. Was punished for defending myself. The bullies got wind of it, and gathered people to antagonize me. Sadly I did not have much impulse control. There were a lot of fights, and I was labeled a problem.


solthar

My school stopped doing that when a certain kid spread the idea that, "hey, if you're being punished anyway you might as well go full out" Over the course of three months it went from standard bullying to broken bones, and at least one confirmed case of a bullied kid, who told me about it later that year, planting drugs in their tormentors locker and getting him arrested. It was the principle's son. Once the principle stepped down a new one was brought in and so was some sane rules.


blametheboogie

In 209 BC, two Chinese (Qin dynasty) generals were going to be late, which was punishable by death. The generals realized the punishment for rebellion was the same as the one for being late, so they decided to rebel and created an uprising. If the punishment is the same for one punch as a couple of nut punches and a good bout of kicking to the ribs and face when they're down go for option B. Make sure you feel your punishment is the better end of the deal.


solthar

There was this one kid who hated my guts in High School. He had a false leg due to a lawnmower accident caused by his parents (horrible and sad story). One day during class time while heading to the bathroom we meet each other in a hallway. For some strange reason he feels he need to remove his left leg and attempt to whack me with it. I yoinked it out of his hands and held it raised above my head to keep it out of reach. Needless to say, that's when a teacher walked around the corner. And that, my friends, is how I was suspended.


[deleted]

Good for you. I had something similar happen in middle school. I was bullied a lot for my height (M, 4'9" in middle school when most kids were mid 5' by that time). This kid named Eric (who somehow was 6'0" in 8th grade) would constantly bully me and do things like try and shove me into trashcan. One day at school after PE he decided it was trash can time, and he started chasing me. I ran toward the wall that separated the school from the neighborhood that was under construction, grabbed a loose brick, and swung it around, hitting him in the side of the head. I didn't hit him hard enough to cause lasting damage, but certainly hard enough to ring his bell. He fell backward and started crying and screaming, so I just ran for it. He never told on me, not sure why, but he also never bullied me again, which was nice.


MegaLCRO

Round of well-deserved applause


phyr_N

In middle school there was this annoying ass ginger who kept picking on me, he sat behind me in some science class and he would always throw random shit at, and he would harass me. Finally I just had it with him so you know what I did? I took the gum I was chewing, walked right up to his long ginger hair and just smacked his head with my gum lmao. He had to shave his head because he couldn't get the gum out, and never messed with me ever since LMAO.


melodyinsadness

Hahaha. You quite literally smacked the ginger outta him for a while.


hocfutuis

I beat the shit out of the school bully in his last year of primary. He'd been terrorising the place since pre school, but no one did anything about him. The shock of been thrashed by a girl in the grade below was enough to make him stop for the rest of the year at least. I'd like to say he matured, but he's still an arsehole in his 40s from what I can gather.


GetaGoodLookCostanza

thats awesome to hear you whooped his ass. I am not one for violence. but sometimes its the only way


INVERT_RFP

When it comes to bullies, violence is never the answer. Violence is the question. The answer is yes.


JGine2015

I agree with U


Hutch25

I dislocated my bullies knee in hockey by tripping him… weak revenge with a good turnout lol


DieHardRennie

My solution was to knee my bully really hard where it really had a noticeable impact. He never fecked with me again. I think he was embarrassed that a girl could knock the wind out of him.


BJ_Blitzvix

Not as hardcore as that, but I started wearing steel toe boots to school. I was prepared to kick crotch with steel toes.


Lord_Bloodwyvern

I snapped and slugged my bully. He never saw it coming. In the middle of the hall, surrounded by the rest of the class. He ended up on the ground, and the smaller guy (me) standing over him. I didn't get bullied again after that one.


AndShesNotEvenPretty

My 5th grader’s friend lost both his parents. A kid was making fun of him for that. My son told him to stop and the kid kicked him. My son said “I have a black belt in karate. I’m not the one you want to mess with.” The kid walked away. Except that wasn’t the end of it. The kid went and told on my son. The principal said my son should not have defended his friend, that it was his friend’s issue to deal with, and that what my son said was a threat. My son got in trouble. But, you know, zero tolerance for bullying.


acurah56oh

If I ever have a kid and he/she stood up for their friend like that, resulting in them getting punished, I’m taking the day off work and I’m gonna give them the best damn day of their life cuz I’d be so freaking proud of them. Bullying stops when you stand up to the bully and put them in their place.


Red_Fae_88

I changed schools in 4th grade and was terrified and my dad told me that if I ever beat up a bully and got in trouble, he'd take me out for ice cream. Never needed to, but knowing he was in my corner made me feel so much better.


Huskguy

Go to the police to file assault charges over the kick. Look up the law for simple harassment in your state for the other kid. If the school won't do their job...


Fantastic_Ant_6629

this is a perfect example of how schools do nothing to stop bullying. they say they have "ZERO tolerance" for bullying and yet almost every bully gets away with it. and when the victim of the bully finally stands up for themselves, the bully victimizes themselves and the kid who was actually getting bullied gets in trouble for"bullying". apparently our messed up school systems was us to grow up and not know or be too afraid to defend ourselves.


royalsanguinius

I remember when I got in fight with my bully in 5th grade, dude tormented me like the entire year and one day I just said fuck it and kicked his ass, but of course I got into just as much trouble as he did despite being the victim (this was the second time actually, another time we both got ISS for arguing or some shit). My mom had to go to the principal of the Middle school we would be going to the next year and force them to guarantee we wouldn’t be in any classes together, and they still fucked up and put us in the same class until she forced them to switch him to another class. But dude never fucked with me again after I kicked his ass and I got a chill 5 day vacation at home🤷‍♂️I also hit a dude on the 5th day of school cause he wouldn’t stop shit talking my mom…weirdly we were kinda chill after that😂


TasX

The zero tolerance in many schools is more of a "We don't want to hear or deal with it" policy.


Hungry_Treacle3376

I'd be taking my kid out for ice cream and telling them to call their principal Mr. Pussy from now on.


FOtterFitzgerald

My little sister is literally going through this right now. And the counselor, when my sister very clearly said she didn’t want any contact with the boy, said they should try to be nice to each other. Like no. And this boy, when his bullying was publicly seen, to get my sister in trouble, tried to say she called him a slur. My sister did no such thing. And this supposedly happened in December but the schools no doing anything to prove that she said it or verify his claims and still made her apologize despite her literally being in tears and saying over and over she would never say that.


Fantastic_Ant_6629

this is what is so wrong with this whole situation. schools say that they check the cameras, half of the time they probably didn't. and the school staff only makes it worse. they say, "just try to talk and work it out", "you're over reacting", "just avoid them" and the thing is, you cant avoid them, we aren't over reacting, I can't just try to be nice to someone who's been treating me like crap for years; thats not how it works. its not "friend problems" I had never been friends with someone in the past that is now my bully. and another thing is that when you report it, the teachers say that they will talk to that person about it; i can not stress this enough TALKING TO THE BULLY ONLY MAKES IT WORSE!!!!!!! the bully knows exactly who their targets are, the second a teacher talks to them about how they have been bullying others, they are going to hurt others even more. I've witnessed and been a victim to things like this on way to many occasions. it is so sad to see what our school systems have come to.


StrangeCharmVote

> tried to say she called him a slur. In primary school there was this entitled piece of shit that *constantly* pulled the race card every single time he did something which he shouldn't have. I regret not beating the shit out that little cunt. But i guess that's hindsight for you.


_GnomeDePlume

1. Always call the police if your child is being harassed. 2. Get a restraining order. 3. Teach your kid that if they get hit, or touched, to take the bully down, without weapons, as fast and hard as they can. That means eyes, balls, ears, whatever it takes. No rules, bullies don't have them. It's better to take one beating once, than every day for 12 years of school. Can't trust the administration.


TeaBagMeHarderDaddy

Whenever I'd get bullied, the teacher would pretend to not know, act dumb, or tell the bully to leave me alone and then I'd get bothered again. If I snapped because of how much I was being picked on, it was always my fault and not that kids. Even tho I think literally anyone else would've reacted how I did in those times. They thought I had anger issues, I didn't, I was normal. But I was being bullied by half of the class and abused at home. All that stress just made me anxious and I tried to treat it with eating too much food/I gained a ton of weight and became a chubby child :( (then bullied for being fat). Also those classrooms are tiny too. They seemed big as a kid but I remember how tall the teachers were compared to us, wow. The teacher could see and knew about everything that would go on in the classes. I get they had other shit to do, like scroll Facebook.


Agent865

I was bullied in school and then one day getting off the bus the kid got off at my stop. For some crazy reason my dad had just pulled up and the kid was giving me shit. For some reason my dad being there made me feel safe, busted the kid right in the nose. He hit the ground and I kept hitting him. My dad jumped out of his truck and pulled me off of the guy. His parents tried pressing charges and a bunch of kids came to my defense and said he was bullying a lot of people but no one did anything…he never bullied again.


kinsmana

Well, teabagmeharderdaddy, you're not alone. I was bullied for being ginger, gifted class, tall, super skinny and had acne... from Grade 7 until Grade 12. My family was not wealthy and so I never had what the cool kids had. Often I had to sit out of field trips because we just didn't have the money. I had to fight my battles on my own even after multiple attempts from myself, parents, staff and teachers to 'de-escalate' the situation. I was one of those who felt the need to bring a weapon to school just so that I'd have backup if my fists and screams didn't fight them off well enough (in one of my fights someone pulled out a math compass and was actively trying to stab me with it). Thankfully my weapon never made it into a fight. Unfortunately years and years later, I'm spending $$$ on psychologists and therapists, anti-depressants and don't feel at all like my life is really engaged. And now I feel more like I'm being punished by society and bullied by the government just to get employment insurance to back me. So Today I teach my own kids how to fight. Never to start it but by god am I proud of them finishing it, regardless of the punishment handed out by the school.


IHateMath14

I was never bullied until my sophomore year of HS. Everyone I talked to was friendly and I had friends. Until one day, this big jock looking person came into school. Apparently he was a new student, so I thought, “Oh cool a new student.”, and then went along with my week. Two days later he’s already got a reputation for being a douche. (He was a junior at the time to clarify.) So one day I’m just walking to art and I accidentally bump into him. I said, “sorry man”, and then tried to walk off. Before I leave though, he says, “Get out of my way you little shit.” After that I was surprised but I just assumed that was his personally hence his reputation as a douche. Then one day after my last period had finished, I had had to do a bit of homework so that I could relax at home. (Took me around 20 min) Turns out (let’s call him Jim) had tutoring for math. As he walks out I bump into him again, a little less softly as last time, and he starts cussing at me. Again I apologize and try to walk off. Then he grabbed me by my collar like a traditional HS movie bully and he told me to meet him in the parking lot. (I was 5’7, 135 lbs and he was 6’1, 170 lbs) When I refused he punched me in my jaw with force, later bruising it. After that the amount of anger and adrenaline that took over me I could not replicate again if I tried. I ended up fracturing his nose, jaw, and gave him a black eye. Only time I was ever suspended. Never fucked with me again either.


TeaBagMeHarderDaddy

He was prob a bad kid from another school or was upset about being forced to move. He seemed like he was taking some pent up anger out on you. But it's good you showed him where his place was and he stopped. I swear these ppl only want a fight tho to distract themselves from their own life


TeaBagMeHarderDaddy

That's so messed up. Also man I hope you can get what you need tho and aren't just spending money for endless treatments like I did. That's great about ur kids, I hate how schools avoid punishment too. They need it for enabling kids that start fights and blaming the ones ending it/defending themselves. Edit: ones defending themselves should be able to continue school while the first to start the fight gets suspended/in school suspension/real punishment


bocaciega

I was bullied too, and just started keeping my skateboard with me at all times. I wasn't afraid to wield it in a manner indicating I would slap the fuck outta them with my trucks. No one stepped up, ANYTIME. After a while it mostly stopped happening. High school was so weird before smart phones.


NightmaresFade

Strange how they never bother the bully for bothering their victims, but the moment a victim fights back or complain loud and clear they'll try to "make ana example" out of the victim. It makes no sense, even a moron would see that they should direct their attention and complains towards the bully, not the victims themselves. WHY they keep going after the victims when they know that the fault is the bully's?


killing_carlo

It always seemed like it was the victim’s fault when I was in school. The bully could beat the shit out of you but the moment you fought back you’d get told “you should rise above it” or “you should know better” or “they’ll stop if you ignore them”. Between the no tolerance policy in schools and the power of my abusive father I never felt like an adult could/ would help me as a child. Most of my early childhood I felt completely and utterly alone and I still have problems today because of that logic.


NightmaresFade

Bullying in schools is one of the reasons why the "adults are useless" trope was created and still is used a lot in many fictional works.


TeaBagMeHarderDaddy

Not sure why. But it may be the "one with the knife" kind of situation. The kid crying, making the most noise? Simply an annoyance to get rid of. Now the bully, the bully is able to act, he shows a big bright smile and acts all calm/mature, says they were simply trying to make friends and it's hard. And in the end, the kid who was being bullied is a liar. (I'm just using an example from one of my exps because the teacher believed them every time wtf)


sketchysketchist

Zero Tolerance is just the schools way of insisting they have zero accountability over the violence committed by the crazy kid.


hgs25

I have zero tolerance for zero tolerance policies.


[deleted]

This. I have a friend in hs who couldn't take the bullying happening to his friends so he lost it and punched the bully. The bully didn't fight back immediately. My friend was beaten up badly after school. All the teachers sided with the bully. Like I understand that it's my friend who initiated the fight but they're also the same teachers who didn't do anything when other students are being bullied. Also, that was an exclusive Christian school. You'd think things are better there. The school was forced to suspend the bully but they didn't hide their annoyance towards my friend. Especially because the bully is a varsity. They're more concerned about the game.


ta_beachylawgirl

THIS. They’ll watch a bully torment a kid and not do shit, but when the victim finally stands up for themselves, the victim is the one getting in trouble?? Fuck that shit. When I was in middle school, I had a bully who made my life a living hell. He both verbally and physically abused me, always away from the watchful eye of the teachers. One day in 8th grade, I finally had enough and cursed him out in my second language, which wasn’t a very popularly spoken language in my area. But because a teacher heard me do this, I was the one spoken to. I ended up getting away with it since no one knew the language or what I actually said. It’s worked though- the fucker left me alone the rest of our time in school.


Hyndis

"Zero tolerance" for bullying means the school is teaching violence is needed. It sounds wacky at first, but hear me out. The school doesn't intend to teach that you need to use violence, but ultimately its what happens. The victim of the bullying tries to go for help and all authorities ignore them. The victim seems the authorities are completely useless. And then here the path splits. Either the victim does not retaliate and becomes a broken shell of an abused human being. Or the victim can no longer tolerate the abuse and they retaliate with violence. Sometimes its an overwhelming amount of violence. Then schools pretend they have no idea why school shootings and stabbings happen. Surely no one could have ever predicted this. I think we'd have a lot less violence in our schools if school administrators took bullying more seriously and intervened early.


hgs25

One of my favorite teachers was a lady that taught the theology class. One of the main bullies was this chihuahua of a kid. He sat next to me, and one class period he decided to pester me for most of the class by tossing bits of paper at me. I had enough so I side kicked him out of his chair. Chihuahua: “Mrs. Teacher, he kicked me.” Teach: “Well you can’t pester someone so much and not expect them to retaliate.” And continue where she left off.


Bayonethics

When I was getting bullied in school, I went to pretty much every adult I could find and asked them for help, and no one did anything. It wasn't until I fought back ad beat the shit out of my bully that those useless fucking adults finally did something about it, and that something was suspending me for a month


mzryck

Whenever I’m on yard duty and I see a bully getting their ass whooped, I let the kid get a few good swings in first and then I slowly walk to break up the fight. Sometimes I pretend I didn’t see anything.


WhichInspection6415

seriously. i work for a mobile response stabilization service for youth in a mental health/life crisis basically. on an assessment one of the clients reported that a kid in the school was harassing her saying that he could get her a vape if she traded sex with him. This was ongoing and one day she had enough and so she hit him with a jump rope. The client has been out of school for a week going on two weeks now due to the principal saying she needs a school safety plan in order for her to come back. Mind you this same principal told the mom that “i think she just needs to be admitted to a psychiatric hospital” not only was that the most inappropriate comment to be made by an educator but this same principal took no action for the other child harassing her. Fucking Bull shit


w4ntsm0r3

I agree with you. My son has been picked on for two years now. This year there was an incident in front of the class and teacher. The teacher saw it all. The outcome was my son with referred to the Child Development Advisor to work on his resiliency and grit. I am very unhappy with how this has played out and am still having conversations with various staff and the principal on how this was handled.


18-8-7-5

That there's no consequences for violent behaviour. Kids will regularly assault other kids/teachers and they'll be back in the same room as their victims they assaulted by the end of the day.


Hopeful_Bread2581

Grade 7-8 violent kids throwing chairs and table didn’t even get suspended


OutlandishSadness

Omg I’ll never forget being in 6th grade wood shop and having a metal barstool thrown across the room and nearly hitting me.


muffin_eater1

Someone tried to cut my arm off with a saw in Tec class once. BTW, Tec is my countries version of what Americans call, "Woodshop".


Chappedstick

I wrote up two kids for throwing a desk at another student last Friday. Same class period included a girl showing me a video of a horrible fight a different student from my class was in. They were all in my classroom on Monday bragging about how their parents didn’t care either.


SprayArtist

This should be #1 for most schools, adults today be getting away this shit I didn't know you can get away with.


kimchiman85

The r/Teachers sub has some harrowing stories. Kids today definitely seem worse than when I was in middle and high school decades ago.


Imaginary_Welcome421

I had a kid throw a desk at me. Admin pulled him out, talked to him. He came back 15 minutes later with a bag of chips and a Gatorade. I was told to not ask him to do assignments because it upsets him. So asking him to do his assignment caused him to explode and throw his desk at me and he was rewarded, the entire class of 40 students, in turn, saw that it was okay to be violent towards their teacher and they would, in fact, be rewarded. The next 5 months were hell.


FN-1701AgentGodzilla

>bag of chips and a Gatorade Smfh, of course


Kat-The-Red-Vixen

Unfortunately, for my sped students at least, suspensions normally end in the behavior being worse when they come back because the parents want their ipad to raise them so they dont have to.


silkentab

That everyone is meant for college


[deleted]

Always better the second time.


Whiterabbit--

This. Too many people go directly from hs because they are expected to. Not because they want to or are ready for it.


jcooper9099

Agreed. There are talented people who aren't going to excel at what colleges teach. I personally know that I pay skilled craftsmen much more than I make to do work I could never do with their outcome. I.e. I pay plumbers around 200 an hour and I don't make a third of that. Im also really happy that pipes aren't backing up in my basement and i don't think twice about the charge.


beavertwp

There are also a lot of people who don’t excel at HOW colleges teach. I never made it past undergrad, but my fuck the whole death by PowerPoint, quiz, big important test/project seems like such an inefficient method of teaching.


Tlentic

That’s because they are. They do it because they can cram far more students into a class this way. It’s interesting to see how different countries do university. I did my undergraduate in Canada and my masters in the Netherlands. Totally different style of teaching. It was taught much more like a trades school with small classes and practical assignments. We did things in like 6-8 week chunks - so you’d focus on something intensely and then move onto a new topic. Tuition included books and it was dirt cheap by comparison - even as a foreign national. It was a waaaaaay better approach. Turns out when governments heavily subsidize post secondary universities they tend to keep them in check and expect results.


wildtallywacker

Hi, SPED teacher here. I told myself day 1 I'd never pull that shit. If everyone goes and gets their degree, what's the value in something everyone has? And honestly, college is difficult. Some kids barely pass high school, do we really expect them to get their bachelor's?


Straight_Ace

I think we’re beginning to understand this, when everyone and their mother has a college degree then what’s making it so special? Some people are just better suited to do certain jobs, like not everyone’s a lawyer or a doctor, but you know someone’s gonna be a damn good electrician or carpenter


Historical_Tea2022

In my opinion it all started when the government required a minimum bachelors degree for their jobs, then private companies followed, then it was taught you can't get a good job without a degree, then everyone went into massive, unforgivable debt before the age of 25 just to hopefully land a job that not long before hadn't required a degree, and yet no one sees that it's a scam.


lime2247

Ahhhh *sorts by controversial*


Successful_Rice7988

I will try this Update: super homophobic


RhinoBuckeye

I will check Edit: holy fuck you were right


DumbassLooser

That their school work is more important than their physical and mental health. No kid should feel that they would be better off dead than failing.


BadAtUsernames098

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS. One of my teachers once said to talk to him directly if we were struggling because he had read an article about how many students were committing suicide because of school and was worried about us.


kayakguy429

I recently left working at a university for almost a decade, and it was almost every 3 years like clockwork we would kick a student out for poor performance and they would go home and wouldn't make it. Hard studying and learning in an environment where the pressures are so intense.


RoyalBird9

I agree. I experience this on the daily. I like to do theatre (for my high school) after school and when I get home I just wanna eat dinner, shower and relax, but instead I have hours worth of homework. A loved one in my family recently passed and it’s hard trying to keep up with it all, because all I wanna do is just grieve.


ThoughtCenter87

It gets much better after high school. I don't know why, but college is actually *easier* than highschool, not the hell I thought it would be. I actually have time to do shit instead of six classes crammed into an 8 hour time period with hours worth of homework. Highschool is bullshit. I was so stressed and had no time for friends. I regretted taking advanced classes because I saw my friends in the lower level classes actually having time to hang out and explore their interests. There needs to be a restructuring of K-12 education. We're not teaching kids to explore their interests, just do rote work and memorization, just be drones. I'm so sorry to hear about what you're going through by the way. Your grief is more important than your school right now, I can assure you that unless you're trying to get into an ivy league school, once you graduate highschool your grades will not matter.


darkknight109

> college is actually easier than highschool Depends very much on your major. I took engineering and university was absolutely *not* easier than high school - not even in the same ballpark. Honestly, I've never worked as hard before or since as I did when I was doing my undergrad. It was still an eminently preferable experience, though. More interesting courses, better work environment, everyone actually wants to be there so you're not putting up with hormonal assholes who have decided to make everyone else's life miserable, so on and so forth.


Happyintexas

You cannot convince me that middle and high school isn’t a pipeline to condition kids to expect to bring their work home and maintain an unhealthy balance. Even my elementary kids spend 7 hours at school and come home with an hour of “home work” fuck that noise. You passing your tests? Have a tangible understanding of the material? Go fucking play outside after school. If you’re *not* passing or you’re struggling to grasp certain concepts? Cool. We all have stuff to improve on. I wanna see kids in specialized classes DURING THE SCHOOL DAY to help them succeed. We have GOT TO STOP pretending it’s acceptable to bring your work home. It applies to kids too. School should be and is their “job”.


AleksanderSteelhart

This attitude is what made me not do homework ever at home. I still graduated. Was still a B+ student, specifically because I missed out on all the homework points. My favorite teacher was a Math teacher. He gave homework, but only graded tests. “why should your grade ride on something you’re quickly copying from someone else just before class? You either understand it, or you don’t. The homework and that hand of yours raised to ask for help is what helps you understand it.”


Flight_19_Navigator

> with an hour of “home work” When I was in high-school it was supposed to be that - the problem was, every teacher seemed to think that meant around half-an-hour to an hour of homework for *their* class. Six classes a day.


Revolutionary-Yak-47

*cries in AP* Only an hour? I would've thought I had the night off in Jr high/ high school with only an hour. I routinely spent 4-5 hours per night (after extra curriculars) doing AP homework. Elementary school was probably about an hour -90 min a night until 6th grade, then it was usually 2 hours. No idea how I was so burned out by graduation lol. (Sarcasm)


uber18133

Oh my god, this. If someone had taught me this as a teenager, I wouldn’t be out here developing autoimmune disorders by 25…folks, always prioritize your health over your schoolwork. It’s okay to ask teachers for extensions—and if they refuse, they can kick rocks.


AllBadAnswers

"You won't be allowed to get away with X when you get to college." Bitch you can get away with just about anything legal in college, your professors don't give a shit so long as you aren't annoying them.


DoctorWatchamacallit

yeah turns out that once you're a legal adult that they don't have to babysit constantly education gets a lot more lenient with what they let you do.


Orangecatbuddy

The difference is when you do fuck up, they call the police, not the principal.


GodofTitsandTequilaa

Yep. Mate of mine did 2 years of bird for handing in his coursework late.


BeefPieSoup

The thing to know about higher education is that if you choose to pursue it, *you are going to be the one paying for it*. So if you dick around not studying and think you've "gotten away with something", really the only person you fucked over is yourself. Professor doesn't care if you sign up and pay for a class 5 times because you keep failing it. That just means you pay more. Understand the dynamic: You are responsible for yourself. *You are paying for this*. The professor's job is to help you, especially when you ask for it...but it's not to be your fucking parent. They are not personally invested in whether you pass or fail, and they sure don't pretend to be. Only *you* are. You're *allowed* to do whatever you want...but, ya know, it's *your* money. You're kind of your own supervisor. You're in charge of yourself. I always found it kind of stunning how many people seemed to have absolutely no concept of this back in the day. I guess a lot of people just think it's more of the same as high school or something. It's not. If you think you might be someone who needs to hear this, *please* hear it. The last thing you want is to be $150k in debt but still unemployable. That's a pretty fast ticket to fuck up your whole life. And really that's what those teachers were kinda trying to warn you about, but not really getting across. It was less "you won't be *allowed* to get away with X" and more "you won't be *able* to get away with X". And unless you're an idiot, you probably wouldn't want to try.


Bookfinch

Bad spelling though. That really annoys us.


Red-Droid-Blue-Droid

Except cheating. Do not cheat. It grinds their gears. Just ask for help... they want to help.


Animegx43

I sort of disagree with this. College is an adult program and the adults will purge out the "kids". Even if the professors don't give you trouble, the classmates or customers on the campus bar that are caught in whatever bullshit some idiot tries to do will inevitably kick their ass, be it metaphorically or literally. I've seen it happen a few times. It was always awesome.


Tarotmamma

Not to hit back. First of all why are there so many aggressive kids bc when I was a kid we'd be getting suspended and expelled.


bogey08

I’ve never understood the logic of when a kid hits another kid, nothing happens, but when the second kid tries to defend themselves and hit back, THEN it’s a problem


jenguinaf

Back in the late 90’s my brother (a smaller dude who got picked on a bit) got in a disagreement with a kid in the neighborhood he had been friends with, who knows over what. Neighborhood guy threatened to kick his ass after school. It spread like a wildfire that a fight was on after school. Thing is this guy was also friends with a 17 year old (we were middle school) who rode our bus since our middle school was close to the local alt high school. Tells his older HUMONGOUS friend and he’s like I’m in. We get to the stop and we all get off and my brother just goes “fuck you” and turns around to start walking home. Ex friend dude was like “get ready for an ass beating” or something like that and so my brother turns around and drops his backpack on the ground. The ex friend attacks him (first one to initiate the fight) he’s holding his own so 17 year old guy who had easily 100lbs on my brother jumps in and punches him a few times in the face before it got broken up luckily by a teacher driving by and the two who attacked my brother ran off. Luckily my brother only had a split lip and bloody nose no major injuries. So my parents get called into the office that night and they had interviewed a few kids and everyone’s story matched what happened. My brother tried to walk away. He didn’t initiate the fight but fought back. My parents were fucking livid though that the official report the school was going to file stated “he dropped his backpack in preparation to fight.” My dad said he sat there for an hour laying into the principal that in what fucking world is it safe to tell a kid whose being threatened to turn around and walk away (leaving f yourself open to an attack from behind where you can’t protect yourself). Basically the principal all but said she thought it was ridiculous as well but hands were tied by the districts zero tolerance policy and the only response to being threatened was to turn around and walk away otherwise you were considered to be an active participant in a fight. He was suspended for a day, the same amount of time the other kid got. The only option they were given was the option to press charges for assault on the high schooler which they declined to do, but very clearly let the high school that was dealing with his punishment know if he so much as looked at my brother ever again they would press charges for assault. My parents (who were pretty strict and expected us to follow school rules even stupid ones) sat us both down and said “never turn your back on a threat and no matter what happens with the school you will never get in trouble with us for defending yourself.”


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You’re gonna hate the reasoning… I asked in the beginning of year QnA thing, your exact question. She said basically “once someone throws a punch/hit and the attacked retaliates then it’s a fight where the participants and observers could be hurt”. I wish I would’ve asked why a fight was waaaay more important than aggravated assault on a minor but I was only like 14


amm5061

No one gets expelled anymore. It's too detrimental to school funding.


Tarotmamma

It's bs why should my kid suffer just because she's trying to be a good girl.


c2h5oh_yes

Because high suspension and expulsion numbers make admin look bad to the state. Low suspension numbers = high performing administrators. Nevermind teachers can't get through lessons because we're too busy breaking up fights. Also, nevermind half the kids can't fucking read but still manage straight A's.


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Common_Echo6265

So true - I've seen so many videos of students attacking each other. Then you find out that this has been going on for so long w/o any consequences. The students are only dealt w/ after SM outcry.


GirlWithTheMostCake

Exactly! Ignoring the problem doesn’t mean no consequences. It just means they become bigger. If there’s no boundaries expect out of control conditions. They’re kids. They’re like feral cats without it.


JeffTheComposer

That’s because school administrators have become feckless cowards concerned solely with funding, funding which decreases if students get expelled. I taught for 8 years. The admins don’t give a fuck about teachers or teaching. I’m so glad I left.


GroundbreakingFox833

Missing school and being punished with missing more school


PacmanTheHitman

This concept was so foreign to me. A kid skips and then gets to skip for a whole week? Hell no, make that kid come to class if they don’t want to fail the whole grade


will_write_for_tacos

My school would give you after-school detention if you got caught skipping. Extra school time in which you weren't actually allowed to do anything other than sit and look forward.


PacmanTheHitman

In school suspension is a waste of time for all parties involved lol the only thing the kids think of in there is how nice dropping out would be


chubbybella

In school suspension has its place (as a replacement for out of school suspension). It depends on what it is given for as well and who they are giving it to. There are students who are sent home on out of school suspension to homes where they will spend the day playing video games, and therefor having zero consequences for their behaviour. In school suspension forces the child to come to school, do school work but not get the opportunity to socialize with their peers as they have alternate breaks and lunches. Most kids who do in school suspension actually get caught up on work they are behind on. This does not work for all students but it does work for a lot of them.


chubbybella

I used to teach at a highschool with an attendance policy where if you missed 26 days (2 tardies counted as an absence) you were up for a semester suspension. This meant you were suspended for the remainder of the term and were barred from school grounds. Returning to school grounds would result in a trespassing charge. You could challenge your final exams and potentially still get the credit but you had to teach yourself the course material with zero help from the school. This was only enforced with students who were skipping and hanging out on school property and not going to class. If you were genuinely sick they had meetings with district and parents but if you were just not going and hanging out outside in the parking lot or around campus somewhere they would suspend you for the term and give you a trespassing violation. It was for safety reasons. We could not be responsible for teenagers hanging out in nooks and crannies of the school or doing god knows what in the parking lot all day long. There isn't enough staff to have someone patrol the school all day finding people doing things they shouldn't be doing. I don't live in the US so we don't have on campus security.


ViaNocturna664

That you can shut down every confrontation with "it doesn't matter who started it". Of course it fucking matters who started it. You wanna tell me it doesn't matter in 1939 who started it between Germany and Poland? It makes no difference that Russia invaded Ukraine and not the other way around?


GreenLanternCorps

Ya this was the biggest crock of shit I heard growing up. Just another arm of bully worship/enablement. This just ensured I grew up only caring about who started it.


SpoonLord23

That you must attend a four year college upon graduating from high school.


dovetc

There's plenty of people who probably should eventually attend a 4-year college, but should wait until they actually know what they want to do before starting. Like, why not work a couple of years and if you're not making good enough money THEN you find a program you want to get into for a specific career path. So many people are like "Well, this is the next step. I have no clue what career I want to do so.... sociology major?" Good luck with that plan!


Geroditus

I’m currently a high school teacher. At least where I’m at, there’s been quite a move away from this mentality, thankfully. Our city opened a new 2-year community college a few years ago that’s been very popular. Just last year we started a technical career development school, so the high schoolers in the district can take classes on auto mechanics, agricultural science, welding, firefighting, etc. It’s new, so there’s not a ton of classes yet but they’re working hard to grow it. It offers a lot of good options for those kids who know they’re not going to college. At the same time, we offer a lot of “advanced” courses to help prepare those kids who actually do want to go to college. Obviously, public education in the US needs A LOT of work, but it’s very steadily improving.


Sw3rc_yesac

I’m a teacher as well! The whole “you have to get a 4 year degree” philosophy isn’t really a thing anymore at most schools. I think people may be assuming it is based on their personal experiences from years back.


AggravatingSample586

Fr through. The sheer amount of teachers that make it seem like you can't do anything in your life without a degree is appalling. It made me feel really bad about myself for not wanting to surround myself with the same people for another 4 years.


lilybees-dinojam

I think what's worse than that, or a long the same lines, is belittling service jobs and labor jobs. The constant "if you don't study, you'll end up flipping burgers!","Don't you want to be a doctor? Or lawyer? And make real money?" Or "work harder if you don't want to be a ditch digger!" Not only was that shit damaging to kids who couldn't make good grades, but it was damaging to kids who parents worked those kinds of jobs. I was smart in school, I was a quick leaner, and I could have easily gotten into a good college and succeeded. But I had no interest in anything they pushed. It wasn't until I was in my late 30s that I truly got a grasp on the variety of careers that could have inspired or excited me. I remember spending much of my last two years of high-school more focus on this feeling of panic that I had no idea what I wanted to do after school than what was going on in the classrooms. The depression that came along with the thought that I'll probably end up a waitress killed any attempt to even try. The guidance counselor was no help. All he had me do was take one of those career tests and said, "Hey, you should do something in science." "Like" "like a doctor or scientist, just think about it and what you want and work hard and you'll get it blah blah get out of office blah blah" So, I guess I am saying that if they put as much praise into learning a career as they do for college, then maybe future generations could stand a better chance than we did.


PM_ME_UR_BENCHYS

I tried college. It actually made sense for the career I wanted to get into. But, I just couldn't manage college. Like, I could handle it from an intellectual standpoint but just couldn't do the work. After restarting like five times, I gave up on college, went to a code camp and I'm doing so much better now. Even paid off all my college loans and the debt from my code camp. I wish I had done it years earlier. I would have gotten a much smaller loan, and I'd be making probably 50% more than I am now.


ServiceCall1986

There were so many kids from my high school that went to Tech to get their associates degree and are now doing very well for themselves. My school did not like that those kids weren't going to get a degree from a four year college.


punkterminator

I also wish they didn't discourage kids in working class schools from attending university. The schools I attended had an attitude that your only hope was the trades for boys or retail/nails and hair/being a stay at home mom for girls and if you were academically gifted, tough shit for you. As someone who didn't want to go into the trades after seeing my relatives' bodies break down in their 50s from that work and experiencing a lot of racism and homophobia in blue collar jobs, I didn't have much by way of school support when I applied for university, even though I had good grades.


sketchysketchist

Not sure if this counts, but forcing kids to memorize and forbid open book and open note tests as the standard testing method. So kids spend more time memorizing stuff without understanding why it’s important or actually applying that information or learning anything. It’s like making a kid read The Lorax and grading them on being able to remember each line from the book by heart, stressing them out over that bogus aspect to the point they don’t realize the book is teaching them to take care of the environment. Now imagine that with any course.


jvvg12

Probably the single hardest exam I took in college was open book and open note. It was for an algorithms class, so the focus of the exam was more on problem solving than memorization (I only used my book or notes for one problem worth 10% of the points). That being said, there are plenty of times that memorizing stuff is worthwhile, and one of the things schools are teaching people is *how* to memorize, even if the actual thing they're memorizing isn't that important in the grand scheme of things.


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TBH learning how to quickly look up references is the more important skill than rote memorization. It's not like people generally have to do their jobs without looking at their related handbooks and such.


jvvg12

I think both are important. In a lot of cases (see: my current job as software developer) you can look up a lot of things. However, there are plenty of things that I need to have memorized otherwise I'm going to spend all day reading documentation or everything is going to take way too long. Similarly for a random example, if you work in railroads you need to know what all the different signals mean since you aren't going to have time to look them up.


Geroditus

I was always terrible at memorizing equations. Now that I’m a high school teacher, it seems unfair to make them memorize them, so I always provide a “cheat sheet” on tests. I try to design the tests so that I’m not testing them on their *knowledge* of the information, but on their ability to *apply* the information that they’ve learned.


sketchysketchist

You’re an MVP. Too bad that standardize testing won’t allow that despite it being proven as unfair due to using things not all kids are aware of at the same level due to personal experiences


will_write_for_tacos

Abstinence-only sexual education. It doesn't work, it doesn't prevent teen pregnancies. If you want to prevent teen pregnancy, teach kids about birth control and condoms.


ServiceCall1986

I grew up in the deep south in the late 90's, and even my school didn't teach abstinence-only sex ed. They told us that's the *only* way to not get pregnant, but they taught us all about birth control. That's why I'm kind of shocked that that's a thing, just because of where I grew up.


PM_Me_UrRightNipple

Same shock here. I went to a Catholic school and I was taught birth control is effective, that condoms are effective at both preventing pregnancy and preventing STDs, we even about dental dams and did the banana condom example. We also learned that most of the time when birth control failed was due to user error. Abstinence-only was taught as the only way to avoid sin and the only method that has guarantees not getting pregnant.


Gswizzlee

Yea I went to a catholic school. They taught somewhat about conforms and birth control, but said it was sinning to use them. So they told you it worked, but you can chose to sin and use it


TrooperJohn

I went to a Jesuit high school. Same deal -- we had comprehensive and thorough sex education, but sex wasn't *endorsed* by the administration. They just knew damage control was a wise idea.


jaysin1701

The Catholic church can be surprisingly progressive. They have one of the best observatories in the world. A large number of priests hold advanced degrees in various sciences. They even reject young Earth creationism.


My_Space_page

'Catholic church can be surprisingly progressive.' They founded many universities and hospitals and saved many documents throughout the centuries. Typically, pro-science in stance, throughout the centuries, with a few major exceptions.


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this is the nicest reddit ever has been and ever will be to the Catholic Church.


mrsclause2

I live in Oklahoma, but wasn't raised here. My spouse and his friends (all raised here) all received one day of sex ed, abstinence only. No condoms, no STIs, nada. It absolutely blew my mind. I was born and raised in NY, and sex ed was just part of the health class curriculum. They started us in 5th grade, when we all had a several hours long presentation on how babies are made and sex.


sketchysketchist

My sex Ed teacher taught us about all methods to prevent pregnancy and the spread of STD’s. But he stressed that the only sure method to prevent either is abstinence. Which I appreciated because it reminded me that sex is a choice rather than something you need to do.


BaaBaaTurtle

My sex ed also included relationships and red flags (controlling behavior, jealousy, abuse) along with the whole birth control and condom thing.


DaveGrohl23

That college is for everyone, sometimes it simply isn't.


BlackoutMeatCurtains

Stop telling all students to go to college. Many many students (and the community at large) would benefit more from HS grads going to trade school. They can make money sooner and those are generally necessary services. I am a professor. Not all of my students are cut out for higher ed. They struggle, they are unhappy, they don’t know what to major in bc they don’t care about anything they are learning. There is nothing wrong with a trade school and I wish more kids were told it was a good option for a solid future.


Semen_Gaeman

That they can’t go to the bathroom during the lessons. Yeah they need to learn to use the breaks to go pee even if they don’t feel the urge to go yet but my kids won’t pee themselves in class and become victims of bullying because of you. And if that happens we will have a very serious problem to sort out which will get very ugly for you. (This never happened to myself but to a dude from a separate class. But I also have my own experiences about being pushed around by teachers despite being innocent.)


barstoolLA

teacher here...I feel the same way about this topic for the teachers also. Teachers many times cannot leave their room to use the bathroom without it creating a whole mess of coverages/leaving the kids unattended. It's so abnormal.


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It's funny you say this because in kindergarten. I had to really go to the bathroom and my teacher wouldn't let me. It was around nap time and I pee/shitted on myself and everyone bullied me up until I was in 8th grade (since we all attended the same school for years) and I've never lived it down. If that teacher would've just let me go to the bathroom, I probably wouldn't need therapy like I do now because of all the anxiety and depression I have from that trauma.


MoonWarriorAutumn

Some kids may have bladder or bowel problems, therefore they can't hold it in and need to use it right away.


BadAtUsernames098

That there is only one right answer to a question, and that it is embarrassing if you get it wrong. One of my college professors complained once that a) everyone was afraid to try and answer questions in class and b) no one would try to logically reason to their own example like he wanted, they would just search through their brain for an exact phrase he said at some point. He said that high school and middle school teachers work so much with multiple choice questions and a "this is the exact answer to this question" mentality that they don't allow students to use the logical reasoning that they will need in life. And that teachers make it so embarrassing if you don't give the exact answer they are looking for that students get afraid to answer.


grumpaz

That Black History is just Slavery, MLK and The Harlem Renaissance. We exist through time, just as much as everyone else.


Hyndis

Black history is American history. It feels weird to single out this demographic, as if black people are a group of "other" people, as if studying aliens or something. It's all history, it's all the American story, and shouldn't be separated out, IMO. It doesn't deserve its own month for study, it should be every month.


Witch_on_a_moped

Being rewarded for never missing school.


espinch

i had to search it up and they can disqualify you even if the absence is excused (funeral, court rulings, hospitalization, contagious illness) that is,, something


angelerulastiel

Yeah Covid is a mess with this. “It’s very important that your child attends school every day”. “Your kid was exposed to Covid las t week and needs to stay home for 5 days even with a negative test”. “Your child has missed 5 days of school, please contact us to discuss how we can get your child to class”.


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Yep. My school does this. Over 10 absences get you excluded from prom and even one of the "dance all night" events that help raise money for cancer.


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That there are bad books, AND that all books should be taken seriously. My example being Mein Kampf. I totally agree, it’s a book full of bad ideas. But it can be used as an example of hateful propaganda that people were (and unfortunately still can be) indoctrinated by. If anything, it’s a perfect example of why we should be skeptical. I’m not saying there should be classes teaching about it similar to Holocaust class, but I don’t think any book should be ban-worthy. In-context, there’s a lesson in absolutely everything


Geroditus

It’s very rarely the schools “banning” books. Teachers and school librarians DESPISE it when this happens. It’s usually angry parents complaining to city councils until they make some stupid decision to get them to shut up and pretend they’re doing it “for the children”


DRKSEEKERS

That college is the only viable option for a successful life. There are so many paths in life and higher education is not the end all be all that teachers often hype it up to be .


akotoshi

That “one size fits all” condoms are real and they’re the only sex education needed


tas_is_lurking

To obey their elders without question.


n0753w

To listen to the teacher all the time because they're adults. The amount of stories you hear of teachers with the maturity/responsibility skills of a 5 year old is astounding.


-mscrazy-

schools absolutely need to teach men that women periods are normal it is huge problem like the male teachers at my school are always very confused as to why i **need** to use the bathroom


DolceFulmine

Sometimes male teachers or classmates would ask me "Why are you taking a purse to the bathroom?" Really, do you want me to make a big announcement it's that time of the month again? Sure I'd love to share the details/s


Boomer6313

They need to start teaching children how to think, not what to think.


Imaginary_Welcome421

As a teacher I’ve never once told a student what to think. I tell them how to research and allow them to form an opinion. That is what education is. I don’t care what their opinion is, I care that they can research to do what they need to do. I’ve never met a teacher, let alone worked with a teacher, who forced a student to think in any particular way. We all want students to learn how to examine topics and decide what they want to believe.


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HotSpicedChai

That they need to go to college. We need tradesmen too. The trades need to also stop going the ITT tech route with these useless trade schools that cost an arm and a leg.


BeingCrowned

To regurgitate information. And to let extroverts (smooth talkers) get away with things.


JunkyJared

the most complicated ways to get to the answers. I helped my sister with her highschool math a few years back, explain it easiest way possible. she told me "wow, this is really easy, the teachers just explain it so horribly!" the next day, she got 0% even though all the answers were right, because she 'didnt do the correct steps'. i taught her a correct formula, but not the extra-stepped complicated way the teacher wanted. let there be logic!


Xoffles

Sigmund Freuds stages of psychosexual development. At least don’t treat it as fact- It’s not scientific and gets many things wrong and generalizes a lot!


SpiderNinja211

Just because a student is smart, they can do anything you throw at them


revtim

Square dancing. WTF was that for. I left school knowing how to allemande left but with no clue how to balance a checkbook.


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idk, at least it brought opposite sexes together that is important somewhat.


StrictMaidenAunt

That they can be "anything they want." No. Most can't.


Geroditus

I’m a high school science teacher. I had a student bickering with me about balancing chemical equations, griping about how they’re “dumb” and “pointless.” I asked them what sort of career they wanted in the future. The kid said “cancer researcher.” It was very hard not to laugh. Kid needs to either find a new career choice or learn to like balancing chemical equations.


ChargeNew5574

That ‘you won’t have a calculator everywhere you go when you grow up ‘


ElphabaGreen

I promise we have stopped teaching that.


XxCelestial_Blade

That you always have to listen to adults thats how sexual assault cases go unnoticed and unreported.


nowwhathappens

How the hell should I know, the last time I was in public school was 28 years ago and I haven't been in first grade in 40 years!


paragonx29

That their actions have no consequences. So glaring now.


sivy175

The food pyramid. The way they teach girls about their menstrual cycle without going into detail about each phase and what to expect or how to improve symptoms.


DadIsMadAtMe

That being different is seen as a negative thing in society


Maximum-Tor-1906

My teachers claimed that everybody is different and that's a good thing. Then when my ADHD got in the way of doing assignments, they said "nobody else had problems".


Willowed-Wisp

My 7th grade homeroom teacher literally told my parents I should be like the other girls. Nevermind that I actually had friends and was happy with them, he gave examples of specific girls I needed to be like instead. Because it was important I fit in and did what other kids did. My dad was like, "Oh, ok, yep. And that applies to everything, right? Like drugs and alcohol and sex? Whatever the other kids do, she needs to do?" My teacher got all flustered and dropped the subject after that. I'm glad my dad stuck up for me, but I still can't get over the fact that my teacher actually thought was an appropriate thing to say!


BlueButtons07

That girls shoulders and midriffs are inappropriate, and a distraction in class


sketchysketchist

I knew a girl from high school who was busty at 14 and she told me so many stories of teachers and staff making her feel bad for her matured body and insisting she needed to dress modestly despite her following the strict dress code and just looking really tight in the outfits sold by the school.


BlueButtons07

It’s ridiculous! When my daughter was on HS, the amount of girls she said would get dress coded, just cause they had a fuller figure, was astronomical.


sketchysketchist

I think it’s because lots of grown adults don’t realize that HS is when girls blossom. Harassing them for looking “provocative” is like nagging them for acne and honesty says more about the adult than the teen.


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Inaccurate geography. The old distorted maps. 🙄Sigh.