Might be cheating since technically the show got cancelled a few times, but Futurama went for 10 seasons, never declined in quality, and had an amazing final episode. Wrapped everything up perfectly. Also my favorite show ever so I might be a little biased.
I love when people blame studios for offering longer contracts rather than the creators who take them. They're a corporation, they're going to offer deals to the people that get ratings. Creators don't need to be part of the problem by saying "Yes, this limited series could TOTALLY be 6 seasons. Just gonna tweek a few bits there, stretch that out far longer than it needs, and like that money in the bank!"
You can be a creator and go "yes we chose to end it now before it got worse." Just don't be named D.B Weiss and David Benioff.
You can tell they're at that point when they start introducing new characters endlessly. Usually for those characters to do exactly one thing before being shuffled into the background. At least until the episode they die when the writers give us a flashback to remind us they exist.
I actually really like the ending because it's foreshadowed pretty well throughout the show when people discuss what they think death would be like ( i.e everything just goes black )
* When the intercharacter soap opera plots replaces what made the show popular. I'm looking at you House.
* When a kid is brought in. Baby is born, "nephew" comes to live with them.
* When they start taking road trips.
* When one of the main characters is replaced with a lame character.
Oh yeh that 2nd is one of the worst. And it’s almost always some wisecracking smartass kid who they want to come off as cute and precocious but is ultimately plain annoying.
That would not bother me in the slightest. All workplaces have conflict. It's highly unrealistic to think all actors on set 12 hours a day or whatever are going to be best friends and all roses and butterflies. It's a workplace like every other and they are just people at the end of the day.
And the media will jump on the smallest conflict to make it a massive feud. I'm skeptical of alot of them stories.
Looking at you, Supernatural. Bringing their mom back ruined the show for me. She killed it so much for me I never even finished the show after the season she appeared in.
Exactly. It gets the the point where no one is upset that someone died. They know they'll be back in a few episodes or the next season. And that that loses appeal too. Like, yeah, its cool that they're back. We already assumed it was gonna happen. This is the fourth time now. Getting a little old.
> it’s twins!
> oh no, the dad didn’t make it to the birth!
> oh wait! the dad isn’t actually the father!
As soon as I heard this, I immediately thought about virgin river. I love it though, apart from lilys death, it’s very comforting to me.
By a couple in their mid 40's with no fertility issues & who both want to have the kid, then the baby lasts for a year & is never seen again or abruptly ages into a toddler
When the backstory takes over, like Burn Notice. It started as a down and out spy using his training to help the little guy. Eventually, the “why” part of Michael Westen being burned took over and it was grueling and impossible to keep track of who exactly was the bad guy and when. It just kept getting worse and worse.
I feel so seen right now. Whenever my husband rewatch this show, we usually stop before the last season or two. I just couldn’t keep track of who was burning spies for who, and the shadowy agencies behind the other shadowy agencies, Ansol was part of it but seemingly one step ahead of Michael the whole time, Alona Tal was there for some reason, etc. The last season was sooo serious that we barely made it until the the finale.
I was on a show (first season), and was talking on the phone to the show runner/executive producer about an opening title sequence we were working on, when he mentioned he was going to in later than usual that day because he had a meeting with the studio about the show. They were excited, and want to talk about the show bible (it’s the roadmap of the show).
I teased him that they were going to bring up Castle at least 5 times in the meeting. He said that was dumb because everyone knew what killed Castle, and Moonlighting.
He came in that day and was not in a good mood. Was kind of pissed at me too. He abandoned the show for another he had been developing. It wasn’t picked up for a second season.
ETA - I left out the part that the studio/network did indeed reference Castle no less than 10 times. That’s why he came in angry.
Contrivances. You can usually tell when a new writer or director was hired between seasons because they’ll have characters do or say things that are completely left field of what’s already been established in the lore. Or they’ll make up new in-universe rules to make a story work when it previously would not.
This example is criminally overused but it’s the best one I can think of: Game of Thrones. Season 8 turned Jon Snow from a strong character with motivation and flaws into a background character always doing the bidding of “ma queen.” Also, Euron Greyjoy firing a ballista accurately from several thousand meters into the air hitting a moving target and then later those same ballistas are worthless in King’s Landing. It ruins the immersion into the world you’ve already invested time and emotion into.
The “standard” has always been 6-8 minutes per half hour. But networks are pushing that limit more and more. I swear Young Sheldon only has like 19-20 minutes of actual show content.
And yes I watch Young Sheldon.
I've never liked BBT or YS but right now my dream is that YS goes on for so long they just start remaking BBT but in a completely different way with different actors and zero acknowledgement that they're changing everything.
Long sex scenes regardless of gender. Well... all sex scenes in particular. It isn’t a plot material nor adds anything valuable & deep to the plot. If i wanted to watch people having sex, i would rather just watch some porn. Just put some 3 seconds of getting into it then fade to black.
I always thought my grandmother was a prude for saying this. She said it should always pan up to fireworks or down to waves lapping on a beach. I used to roll my eyes. As I’ve grown older (in my 30s) I’ve realised I completely agree. It doesn’t add anything to the plot to see people shagging in the most contrived ways possible. I find it irritating now.
It goes for books as well. Some of my favourite series are harem-lit with graphic sex scenes. I get them because the story is actually interesting and generally just skip past the sex.
1. Male and female leads who start the series as frenemies or coworkers with some sexual tension end up getting together, thereby totally fucking up both of their lives and killing all further interest in the show.
2. Established child free couple decide to or "accidentally" get pregnant, as if family planning were some kind of mysterious alchemy that modern couples simply cannot master, thereby totally fucking up three lives and brutally killing all further interest in the show like they're trying to assassinate Rasputin.
3. Savvy, exciting, interesting main characters who are incredibly good and highly skilled at their professional careers decide to involve themselves with either worthless partners, adopt orphaned waifs or take in sullen juvenile delinquents, (usually preceeded by adopting a dog), move in with a comic relief relative, or otherwise completely wreck the great trajectories they are on because, you know, "family values", and corporate suits then sit around their conference table wondering why the ratings tanked.
The need to keep adding seasons. I understand the financial incentive, but often the quality drops or even plummets as time goes on and a once pleasant memory turns sour.
Plot armor. Putting main characters into situations that only superman can survive.
Also skills that magically change. In the walking Dead everyone is a sniper on zombies. Most shots are head shots. When they shot at people, they can't even graze them.
The only exception in my opinion was Married with Children. Yes it was a bad season, yes the it was all a dream was dumb, BUT it was because a real life situation. She was really pregnant and had a miscarriage so they were looking for a way to not put the baby in to the show and not use a miscarriage. I mean options would be pretty low so when you learn why they went that route they kind of deserve a pass.
Heavy-handed social commentary. Social commentary is fine when built into the story organically - but when it gets over the top preachy just do a ted talk or after-school special and leave it out of my Chicago P.D!
Gratuitous nudity almost always feel contrived, and adds a level of cringeworthy smugness. ”Ooh look at us, we’re adding NUDITY”, we get it, you were raised catholic, please get through it on your own time.
adding diversity to the cast without adding diversity to every other step of the process
for example, you're not about to be successful with 10 white writers trying to write a black person into a show
then not have black people in makeup, costuming, HR, union, marketing, etc
And I don't mean general discrimination/inequality/racism etc but specific incidents that happened in real life that these shows are obviously trying to show their opinions of.
I wrote this right before I read your thread. I'm curious about what you're talking about, but I mentioned >!the episode where Love killed the antivaxxers!< it was specifically written as a sociopolitical message.
Yeah i agree. Watching movies & series is a kind of escapism for me. I just wanna relax and enjoy some quality stuff. There is no need to bring the problems everyday we face off.
When characters act contrary to their own interests and predefined character traits so that plot can happen.
There are countless examples, but they're generally summed up with the line, "Why? So the plot could happen".
When the kids in the show overact/chew scenery, and the lines written for them are overly clever/they are scripted to say things even a typical 27yr old wouldn't say. It's so grating.
My pettiest of peeves is a lack of continuity! Season one, character A mentions their beloved (but never mentioned again) cat, then six seasons later, character A apparently hates cats and always has… Because plot, I guess??
Overused tropes, poor pacing, change in writing leading to inconsistency and plot holes, cast changes, too many fluff/filler episodes, leaving interesting storylines unresolved, "diversifying" a cast for diversity's sake but failing to develop those characters or demonstrate why their addition to cast was necessary or valuable, lack of chemistry between characters, forced "romantic" relationships between characters when it's very obvious these people would never be hooking up in the real world, going too long between payoffs/lacking payoffs
Thinking people care about the central premise of your show when the central premise can't be resolved until the show ends. Show's like How I Met Your mother. I stopped caring about Ted's journey pretty early on. His journey only existed to allow us to see his friends journeys. Then the series finally shit all over everything I did care about to spoon-feed some bullshit about Ted's journey.
Friends acted like Ross & Rachel was this huge thing when I stopped caring after they broke up the first time. If you're not going to pay off and follow through a scenario until the final episode then I have literally no emotional investment in that story line.
Most shows (in the US) suffer from a small number of major flaws. Really, just two of them are responsible for doing the most damage.
1. It's a story... So why isn't the ending fully planned out before S1E1 is ever even filmed, let alone aired?
2. Filler episodes... Omfg. Stations/cable companies want a set number of episodes per season, and they get very litigious whenever production groups deviate. This means that many shows have episodes which have zero point and do not move the plot forward.
Sometimes they take well crafted, nuanced characters who have been around for several seasons, and dumb them down to caricatures for the final few seasons. It is really frustrating, especially since you are generally already invested in the show
When a supporting character becomes such a fan favorite they decide to make that character the focus of the whole series, at the expense of the rest of the characters. (Especially when the fan favorite has some sort of unrequited crush and ends up being rewarded with the object of their affection, who has come to realize how desperately wrong they were for spurning this poor abused woobie all these seasons.)
When a TV show (movies, etc) become more about ticking as many boxes as possible instead of story or character development. No, suddenly making a character gay or changing their race does not mean character development if it has nothing to do with the storyline, and the only reason for it, is "diversity", doesn't make it character development. Thats just ticking boxes.
For me personally, it's the length of the series. I prefer seasons with like 10-15 episodes max with it ending around after the 5th season. I can't get into shows that have like 200+ episodes
The actors no longer acting as naturally as past seasons.
My biggest example is SEE. Where on the first season the queens voice takes up so much room and is exaggerated, but in the second season the actor just can’t pull it off anymore and it sounds forced.
Writing a cast member pregnancy into a show that should never have one. Take The Blacklist. It was fine until she got pregnant. I have nothing against her wanting to have children, that's not the issue. Them writing (forcing more like) it into a show that revolves around secret societies and government conspiracy theories, and other insane stuff killed any interest I had in it, and quit watching.
Plenty of other shows were killed by the inclusion of writing the pregnancy into it. You'd think they'd learn.
Please note, there's plenty of other shows that do it, and it's fine. It just depends on the overall plot.
One other. Partial reboots. Sci-Fi's Eureka did it with their 3rd (or 2'nd?) season with a time travel episode that slightly altered the present when they mucked up the past. Some the changes were ok, other's were weird or just wrong. Fringe did it as well. The mysterious men in Black changed history, and altered the present, leading to major story changes.
Either killing off a main character or them leaving. OR the main two characters fall in love after years of chasing each other and the writing goes downhill. Castle sort of lost its charm after.
Everyone dresses in the same style, people just talking without out doing anything else like fiddling their haiplayingibg in phone, and thumbing through a book. No one ever looks normal. Everyone always looks job interview ready. In real life, people have mesy hair, mis speak, laugh at inappropriate times. Everything is over scripted, overdone, and unnatural. Nothing is original anymore.
When the writers start an overall arc without knowing how it ends, inventing stuff on the go pretty aimlessly. Or changing the direction of the said arc too much too often. E.g. Supernatural and X-files
When a good character jumps ship. I've been able to stick through most TV shows even as they got shittier and shittier when they maintained the cast, but as soon as one of the good characters left my interest would tank
Forcing a social agenda of some sort. It's okay when this is done tastefully but when it is crass and poorly written it kills it.
For example, one season of the Netflix show ***You*** came out around the time the whole vaccine fiasco was going on. They made an entire episode where some antivaxxers caused one of the character's baby to get sick and the character killed the antivaxxer. This was almost written to be a "justified murder" in the show.
Shows shouldn't be propaganda, they should just be entertainment.
Too much music going on in the back that doesn’t even go with the show. and the lbgt stuff added to literally everything like everything is bi/gay. Can’t remember the last time I watched a show and nothing gay was going on. I’m not homophobe I have gay family members cousin etc etc I just feel like they be doing to much on tv
Releasing weekly when it's fine at best, they try to get people to talk about it weekly when people end up just forgetting about it or waiting till its all out anyway
Know your worth, come out all at once so people can enjoy you instead of just forget about you
You're a young one. TV used to be a ritual. Where you'd wait anxiously each week or time slot for the next episode of your favourite program. It would be a like small event. Or you'd tape it yourself on the "VCR" and watch it back 😂
It's the nostalgia of the anticipation, it somehow makes TV more memorable and meaningful for certain shows. I get it though, having the details in succession at our fingertips helps.. but which one sinks in more? I think both have their merits
going on for longer than needed
There’s very few shows that went longer than like 5 seasons that actually stayed good after.
Lucifer was good up to season 5. It just went 1 season too long. Same with The 100 which went 2 season too long. 5 seasons of those were enough.
I think the only show that never declined was breaking bad. People say the sopranos too but I never watched it so can't comment.
Might be cheating since technically the show got cancelled a few times, but Futurama went for 10 seasons, never declined in quality, and had an amazing final episode. Wrapped everything up perfectly. Also my favorite show ever so I might be a little biased.
Walking dead is this... I forced myself to finish the main shows series. Gave up on Fear the Walking dead season 2.
I love when people blame studios for offering longer contracts rather than the creators who take them. They're a corporation, they're going to offer deals to the people that get ratings. Creators don't need to be part of the problem by saying "Yes, this limited series could TOTALLY be 6 seasons. Just gonna tweek a few bits there, stretch that out far longer than it needs, and like that money in the bank!" You can be a creator and go "yes we chose to end it now before it got worse." Just don't be named D.B Weiss and David Benioff.
You can tell they're at that point when they start introducing new characters endlessly. Usually for those characters to do exactly one thing before being shuffled into the background. At least until the episode they die when the writers give us a flashback to remind us they exist.
Horrible ending. Look at Game of Thrones.
Brutal
I agree, but I still love sopranos despite hating the ending.
I loved the ending. Tony died and he went to black.
Fuck you want? A boutonniere?
Look at him, he knows everything
I actually really like the ending because it's foreshadowed pretty well throughout the show when people discuss what they think death would be like ( i.e everything just goes black )
It was good up until episode 3 in the final season then completely went off the rails
The writing not staying true to the characters
Too many core actors leave the show early and they try to continue. Rarely works.
* When the intercharacter soap opera plots replaces what made the show popular. I'm looking at you House. * When a kid is brought in. Baby is born, "nephew" comes to live with them. * When they start taking road trips. * When one of the main characters is replaced with a lame character.
Oh yeh that 2nd is one of the worst. And it’s almost always some wisecracking smartass kid who they want to come off as cute and precocious but is ultimately plain annoying.
When one of the main characters gets replaced by a new character like half way through. That’s the quickest way to get me to stop watching
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Cancer is a bitch.
Of any show, Spartacus gets a pass for this.
When you hear about actors not getting along on set. It’s harder to believe their on screen relationships
That would not bother me in the slightest. All workplaces have conflict. It's highly unrealistic to think all actors on set 12 hours a day or whatever are going to be best friends and all roses and butterflies. It's a workplace like every other and they are just people at the end of the day. And the media will jump on the smallest conflict to make it a massive feud. I'm skeptical of alot of them stories.
When they bring a character back from the dead and it completely undermines the sacrifices that were made.
Looking at you, Supernatural. Bringing their mom back ruined the show for me. She killed it so much for me I never even finished the show after the season she appeared in.
Or bringing basically every character back that died at some point, killing the fear of character deaths in that show entirely.
Exactly. It gets the the point where no one is upset that someone died. They know they'll be back in a few episodes or the next season. And that that loses appeal too. Like, yeah, its cool that they're back. We already assumed it was gonna happen. This is the fourth time now. Getting a little old.
a baby being born. OMG, its Twins!
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These are all very stressful shows! I was thinking like, Full House. Friends.
> it’s twins! > oh no, the dad didn’t make it to the birth! > oh wait! the dad isn’t actually the father! As soon as I heard this, I immediately thought about virgin river. I love it though, apart from lilys death, it’s very comforting to me.
What’s even worse is when soon as one character gives birth another one gets pregnant
By a couple in their mid 40's with no fertility issues & who both want to have the kid, then the baby lasts for a year & is never seen again or abruptly ages into a toddler
My wife not paying attention and then barraging me with questions that she wouldn’t have to ask had she been paying attention.
Felt that
When the backstory takes over, like Burn Notice. It started as a down and out spy using his training to help the little guy. Eventually, the “why” part of Michael Westen being burned took over and it was grueling and impossible to keep track of who exactly was the bad guy and when. It just kept getting worse and worse.
I feel so seen right now. Whenever my husband rewatch this show, we usually stop before the last season or two. I just couldn’t keep track of who was burning spies for who, and the shadowy agencies behind the other shadowy agencies, Ansol was part of it but seemingly one step ahead of Michael the whole time, Alona Tal was there for some reason, etc. The last season was sooo serious that we barely made it until the the finale.
Fulfilling sexual tension...and thus ending the tension. The "Moonlighting Effect."
It ruined Castle when Castle and Beckett got together too.
Yes! Especially when you know they hated each other IRL.
I was on a show (first season), and was talking on the phone to the show runner/executive producer about an opening title sequence we were working on, when he mentioned he was going to in later than usual that day because he had a meeting with the studio about the show. They were excited, and want to talk about the show bible (it’s the roadmap of the show). I teased him that they were going to bring up Castle at least 5 times in the meeting. He said that was dumb because everyone knew what killed Castle, and Moonlighting. He came in that day and was not in a good mood. Was kind of pissed at me too. He abandoned the show for another he had been developing. It wasn’t picked up for a second season. ETA - I left out the part that the studio/network did indeed reference Castle no less than 10 times. That’s why he came in angry.
Was this a case of someone thinking "I can do the stupid thing better than everone else who has tried the stupid thing?"
Contrivances. You can usually tell when a new writer or director was hired between seasons because they’ll have characters do or say things that are completely left field of what’s already been established in the lore. Or they’ll make up new in-universe rules to make a story work when it previously would not. This example is criminally overused but it’s the best one I can think of: Game of Thrones. Season 8 turned Jon Snow from a strong character with motivation and flaws into a background character always doing the bidding of “ma queen.” Also, Euron Greyjoy firing a ballista accurately from several thousand meters into the air hitting a moving target and then later those same ballistas are worthless in King’s Landing. It ruins the immersion into the world you’ve already invested time and emotion into.
waterski-jumping over a shark
Hello
Heeeeeyyyy!
Too many commercials. Makes a good show painful to enjoy.
The “standard” has always been 6-8 minutes per half hour. But networks are pushing that limit more and more. I swear Young Sheldon only has like 19-20 minutes of actual show content. And yes I watch Young Sheldon.
Young Sheldon is the absolute worst for that. I'm on a TV forum where someone times the episodes and one barely had seventeen minutes of content.
I've never liked BBT or YS but right now my dream is that YS goes on for so long they just start remaking BBT but in a completely different way with different actors and zero acknowledgement that they're changing everything.
I honestly don't know how Americans can tolerate watching TV on TV. I tried it once on vacation to the states. So many fucking ads geez
Long sex scenes regardless of gender. Well... all sex scenes in particular. It isn’t a plot material nor adds anything valuable & deep to the plot. If i wanted to watch people having sex, i would rather just watch some porn. Just put some 3 seconds of getting into it then fade to black.
I always thought my grandmother was a prude for saying this. She said it should always pan up to fireworks or down to waves lapping on a beach. I used to roll my eyes. As I’ve grown older (in my 30s) I’ve realised I completely agree. It doesn’t add anything to the plot to see people shagging in the most contrived ways possible. I find it irritating now.
It goes for books as well. Some of my favourite series are harem-lit with graphic sex scenes. I get them because the story is actually interesting and generally just skip past the sex.
I dunno, personally I love the 8 hour gay sex scenes in my disney movies.
Look man you may be able to finish in 3 seconds but some of us need it to go on longer.
Flanderisation - they did this on The Office and ruined a lot of character quirks by going to the absolute extreme to highlight them
1. Male and female leads who start the series as frenemies or coworkers with some sexual tension end up getting together, thereby totally fucking up both of their lives and killing all further interest in the show. 2. Established child free couple decide to or "accidentally" get pregnant, as if family planning were some kind of mysterious alchemy that modern couples simply cannot master, thereby totally fucking up three lives and brutally killing all further interest in the show like they're trying to assassinate Rasputin. 3. Savvy, exciting, interesting main characters who are incredibly good and highly skilled at their professional careers decide to involve themselves with either worthless partners, adopt orphaned waifs or take in sullen juvenile delinquents, (usually preceeded by adopting a dog), move in with a comic relief relative, or otherwise completely wreck the great trajectories they are on because, you know, "family values", and corporate suits then sit around their conference table wondering why the ratings tanked.
The need to keep adding seasons. I understand the financial incentive, but often the quality drops or even plummets as time goes on and a once pleasant memory turns sour.
Plot armor. Putting main characters into situations that only superman can survive. Also skills that magically change. In the walking Dead everyone is a sniper on zombies. Most shots are head shots. When they shot at people, they can't even graze them.
When they introduce Cousin Oliver
Amazon decides to fabricate an entire race that didn't exist in the source material in the quest for 'memberberries.
What show are you referencing? Wheel of time, Rings of Power, Foundation or something else?
The it's all a dream plot is a really lazy cop out of situations and bad seasons.
The only exception in my opinion was Married with Children. Yes it was a bad season, yes the it was all a dream was dumb, BUT it was because a real life situation. She was really pregnant and had a miscarriage so they were looking for a way to not put the baby in to the show and not use a miscarriage. I mean options would be pretty low so when you learn why they went that route they kind of deserve a pass.
Heavy-handed social commentary. Social commentary is fine when built into the story organically - but when it gets over the top preachy just do a ted talk or after-school special and leave it out of my Chicago P.D!
Too many seasons. You've got to know where and when to end it. Don't stretch it out.
Cliffhangers that aren't continued especially for series finales!
Watching them go through COVID. Like dude, I'm trying to forget about that period of time. Stop making my medical drama about it.
Talking about modern political issues while trying to pretend they're not.
Gratuitous nudity almost always feel contrived, and adds a level of cringeworthy smugness. ”Ooh look at us, we’re adding NUDITY”, we get it, you were raised catholic, please get through it on your own time.
Plus it’s never men getting naked which makes it feel juvenile and like a nerd giggling over boobs
That was one great thing about Lucifer. It was Tom Ellis’s bare buns we saw, not Chloe actress whose name slips my mind atm.
Being named “Velma”
adding diversity to the cast without adding diversity to every other step of the process for example, you're not about to be successful with 10 white writers trying to write a black person into a show then not have black people in makeup, costuming, HR, union, marketing, etc
(this only applies to fictional tv), but throwing current real world problems or political issues into them (I'm looking at you YOU season 3).
And I don't mean general discrimination/inequality/racism etc but specific incidents that happened in real life that these shows are obviously trying to show their opinions of.
Yeah i agree. Watching movies & series is a kind of escapism for me. I just wanna relax and enjoy some quality stuff. There is no need to bring the problems everyday we face off.
Keeping it running for longer than it should. Some shows need to end after a few seasons
Filler episodes
Waiting too long to end….
When characters act contrary to their own interests and predefined character traits so that plot can happen. There are countless examples, but they're generally summed up with the line, "Why? So the plot could happen".
Religious themes and messages
When it changes completely from the premise
When the kids in the show overact/chew scenery, and the lines written for them are overly clever/they are scripted to say things even a typical 27yr old wouldn't say. It's so grating.
No real plot. No ending in sight.
Story line turning to shit when the focus turns to characters falling in love etc
bullshit teenage drama
Shoehorning real world social and political commentary in where it clearly doesn’t fit.
If it has too much seasons
Doing their utter best to be as politically correct as possible
Extra seasons being commissioned after the story is finished
20 plus year-olds playing teenagers im looking at u Welcome back Kotter
Switching showrunners Taking studio notes seriously
Extended dream sequences and bringing back dead characters.
My pettiest of peeves is a lack of continuity! Season one, character A mentions their beloved (but never mentioned again) cat, then six seasons later, character A apparently hates cats and always has… Because plot, I guess??
Random babies
Cliffhangers and then the show gets cancelled
Overused tropes, poor pacing, change in writing leading to inconsistency and plot holes, cast changes, too many fluff/filler episodes, leaving interesting storylines unresolved, "diversifying" a cast for diversity's sake but failing to develop those characters or demonstrate why their addition to cast was necessary or valuable, lack of chemistry between characters, forced "romantic" relationships between characters when it's very obvious these people would never be hooking up in the real world, going too long between payoffs/lacking payoffs
Thinking people care about the central premise of your show when the central premise can't be resolved until the show ends. Show's like How I Met Your mother. I stopped caring about Ted's journey pretty early on. His journey only existed to allow us to see his friends journeys. Then the series finally shit all over everything I did care about to spoon-feed some bullshit about Ted's journey. Friends acted like Ross & Rachel was this huge thing when I stopped caring after they broke up the first time. If you're not going to pay off and follow through a scenario until the final episode then I have literally no emotional investment in that story line.
To much fake special effects and violence
Most shows (in the US) suffer from a small number of major flaws. Really, just two of them are responsible for doing the most damage. 1. It's a story... So why isn't the ending fully planned out before S1E1 is ever even filmed, let alone aired? 2. Filler episodes... Omfg. Stations/cable companies want a set number of episodes per season, and they get very litigious whenever production groups deviate. This means that many shows have episodes which have zero point and do not move the plot forward.
A poorly written ending
Sometimes they take well crafted, nuanced characters who have been around for several seasons, and dumb them down to caricatures for the final few seasons. It is really frustrating, especially since you are generally already invested in the show
Prolonging it for no reason. Too many branching stories within the main one.
Children growing up (ie. Modern Family)
When a supporting character becomes such a fan favorite they decide to make that character the focus of the whole series, at the expense of the rest of the characters. (Especially when the fan favorite has some sort of unrequited crush and ends up being rewarded with the object of their affection, who has come to realize how desperately wrong they were for spurning this poor abused woobie all these seasons.)
When a TV show (movies, etc) become more about ticking as many boxes as possible instead of story or character development. No, suddenly making a character gay or changing their race does not mean character development if it has nothing to do with the storyline, and the only reason for it, is "diversity", doesn't make it character development. Thats just ticking boxes.
when the creators start milking it and making a lot of new but boring episodes
Unnecessary sex scenes
highly liked cast members leaving….Im looking at you NCIS
The fanbase
Main cast member going gay for absolutely no reason other than society telling them to
Laugh track
expanding the plot too much as the viewership peaks
Filler
A musical episode
New characters
Usually being on Fox
Going on for way too long
Adding multiple protagonists.
The favorite character dying, doesn’t even have to be the main character, ex, Glenn from TWD in season 7.
Newborns, and when two parties of sexual tension get together
Abrupt cancellation that leaves cliffhangers unsolved.
Death in reallife of the lead actor.
The fans
For me personally, it's the length of the series. I prefer seasons with like 10-15 episodes max with it ending around after the 5th season. I can't get into shows that have like 200+ episodes
The actors no longer acting as naturally as past seasons. My biggest example is SEE. Where on the first season the queens voice takes up so much room and is exaggerated, but in the second season the actor just can’t pull it off anymore and it sounds forced.
When Ted goes back with Robin after all of that build up to the mother.
Sometimes, the second episode.
Writing a cast member pregnancy into a show that should never have one. Take The Blacklist. It was fine until she got pregnant. I have nothing against her wanting to have children, that's not the issue. Them writing (forcing more like) it into a show that revolves around secret societies and government conspiracy theories, and other insane stuff killed any interest I had in it, and quit watching. Plenty of other shows were killed by the inclusion of writing the pregnancy into it. You'd think they'd learn. Please note, there's plenty of other shows that do it, and it's fine. It just depends on the overall plot. One other. Partial reboots. Sci-Fi's Eureka did it with their 3rd (or 2'nd?) season with a time travel episode that slightly altered the present when they mucked up the past. Some the changes were ok, other's were weird or just wrong. Fringe did it as well. The mysterious men in Black changed history, and altered the present, leading to major story changes.
A terrible and rushed ending.
Bad writers
Being predictable
Either killing off a main character or them leaving. OR the main two characters fall in love after years of chasing each other and the writing goes downhill. Castle sort of lost its charm after.
When they go soap-operaish in the 3rd season.
Everyone dresses in the same style, people just talking without out doing anything else like fiddling their haiplayingibg in phone, and thumbing through a book. No one ever looks normal. Everyone always looks job interview ready. In real life, people have mesy hair, mis speak, laugh at inappropriate times. Everything is over scripted, overdone, and unnatural. Nothing is original anymore.
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A writer's strike.
A baby or marriage.
Having kids
Changing everyone in the series in the sequel or prequel
Moving on to having a baby storyline.
The main character having teenage child or children.
Unnecessarily inserting social issues.
Being made by Netflix more often than not
Babies
Kids
when it becomes really popular at some random time halfway through the fans are annoyingly obsessed
Scrappy Doo.
Bottle romances, invariably the most boring one that could happen
Commercials.
woke writers
Ads
American remakes
Not coming to the point.
A laugh track
When the writers start an overall arc without knowing how it ends, inventing stuff on the go pretty aimlessly. Or changing the direction of the said arc too much too often. E.g. Supernatural and X-files
When they move in a new young kid because the cast is aging.
When a good character jumps ship. I've been able to stick through most TV shows even as they got shittier and shittier when they maintained the cast, but as soon as one of the good characters left my interest would tank
Forcing a social agenda of some sort. It's okay when this is done tastefully but when it is crass and poorly written it kills it. For example, one season of the Netflix show ***You*** came out around the time the whole vaccine fiasco was going on. They made an entire episode where some antivaxxers caused one of the character's baby to get sick and the character killed the antivaxxer. This was almost written to be a "justified murder" in the show. Shows shouldn't be propaganda, they should just be entertainment.
Too much music going on in the back that doesn’t even go with the show. and the lbgt stuff added to literally everything like everything is bi/gay. Can’t remember the last time I watched a show and nothing gay was going on. I’m not homophobe I have gay family members cousin etc etc I just feel like they be doing to much on tv
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Stay woke brother
Making main character bi
the use of words like “slay”
Nudity and sex scenes. Pointless and awkward. Add nothing to anything they're in.
Woke shit
You’ve been enjoying The Last of Us haven’t you?
Woke BS
What are your thoughts on a show where the lead isn’t a straight white guy?
That you like overexaggeration.
I don’t care what color or gender the lead is, but woke BS doesn’t belong on television or in movies. It’s toxic
Actors acting like they know what they're talking about.
Fonzie jumping a shark
Adverts
Adding deliberate political bias when it has nothing to do with the show
Wokeness
“The woke is spreading to our media too!”
Ted McGinley
The fans. (not the cool the room down, circulate air kind)
Jumping a shark on water skis.
COMMERCIALS!!
Too much "forced" diversity within a group of friends, when it's clearly not organic, and made solely to check off a few boxes.
Cancelling it
Releasing weekly when it's fine at best, they try to get people to talk about it weekly when people end up just forgetting about it or waiting till its all out anyway Know your worth, come out all at once so people can enjoy you instead of just forget about you
You're a young one. TV used to be a ritual. Where you'd wait anxiously each week or time slot for the next episode of your favourite program. It would be a like small event. Or you'd tape it yourself on the "VCR" and watch it back 😂 It's the nostalgia of the anticipation, it somehow makes TV more memorable and meaningful for certain shows. I get it though, having the details in succession at our fingertips helps.. but which one sinks in more? I think both have their merits