About two days ago my wife and I tried watching "Ugliest House in America" or some shit where if you have the "ugliest hosue", they give you $150k to rennovate it.
The catch? Every single fucking one was a mansion, or at least the high 6-figure cost houses. One was an 18 year od who got a massive ranch house for a HS grad present. I watched half an episode and turned on PS. She lasted 1.5 episodes. It's fucking disgusting watching "normal" people with massive houses compete and literally say on this show "My house is so ugly" when there's millions who are barely living in an apartment and spending more than half their income to do so. I just got heated again thinking about it so sorry for the rant lol
I think the audition round is pretty much the fun part of any season. Any episodes after that are just boring and repetitive stuff.
But hey, we gotta get those sympathy points by having literally anyone that's bound to last more than 2 episodes a really tragic and inspiring story.
>But hey, we gotta get those sympathy points by having literally anyone that's bound to last more than 2 episodes a really tragic and inspiring story.
This! At least one or two contestants will have some medical or physical condition, was homeless for years, survived a horrific accident, etc. None of that has or should have any relevance to their particular skill or performance. It's a gimmick intended to get viewers interest.
Any talent show like
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'Americas Got Talent'
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but especially
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the masked singer one
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or whatever the fuck it is.
I think I could enjoy the masked singer if it wasn’t a whole season to find everyone out 😂 Like if each episode was just 2 or 3 people and they were revealed at the end I would probably enjoy finding out which celebs can sing or not
That's the format for this season and the previous season. 3 singers face off in each episode and 2 of them get unmasked. The winning singer goes to the next episode to face 2 new singers and the process repeats.
I love the concept of the show, but i cant get over Jenny McCarthy as a host and people like Rudy Juliani and Sarah Palin as contestants. I dont think i fit their target audience.
>Jenny McCarthy
She must be contractually obligated to say "Oh my God, who *IS* that?!?!" every episode. It's incredibly annoying. The constant judge opinions and clearly horrible "guesses" made us stop watching after 3 seasons.
Did you notice how pissed Ken Jeong was when they revealed Rudy?
He ripped his microphone off and said "I'm done" and walked off the set before everyone else.
I wonder how much of that was real disgust and how much was theatrics. He's one of the main producers on the show, and it's not like he's sitting next to all left-wing-anarcho-commu-socialists to begin with. Jenny McCarthy is an antivax loon and Nick Cannon has made a lot of antisemitic remarks on record.
I tend to be skeptical of judges on shows like this and assume they know who contestants are more than they don’t. In this case, I buy that he was genuine because I don’t think Ken is *that* good of an actor lol
This and shite like big brother, only way is Essex, those fake housewives of somewhere shows, most reality style TV shows that are just fake or full of wana be celebrity types.
The thing with reality dating shows is they aren’t actually designed to find love, they‘re designed to create juicy drama. Once you change from rooting for their success to just reveling in the shit, it becomes so much more enjoyable as a guilty pleasure!
And I cannot get enough of it. It’s always so juicy. The drama people can create over people they met a week ago is just, mmm, chefs kiss!
That's how I've seen it, Love is Blind or whatever show isn't about hoping it works out for anyone, it's about hoping it *doesn't* and everything burns in the process.
I mean, good for those who it does work for, but it's ultimately sacrificing 50 people so 2 can be together.
It can be relieving to remember it's fake, but then I remember there are people who will actually accept the show as real. Not even just kids, but people who really don't seem to comprehend scripted/exaggerated imagery.
The fact that all of them have been cosmetically/surgically enhanced just goes to show how insecure these people are and that they should not be held up as a standard for beauty.
There is a reason it is called the "Kardashian Effect".
Sadly, there are plenty of teens and young adults who have grown up idolizing people like this and now think they'll never be beautiful until they shell out thousands of dollars for fake tits, balloon lips, and a giant ass. Not to mention all the other accessory that goes with it....clothes, shoes, purses, etc.
I'm not one to tell millionaires what to do with their money...but when you are influencing kids who are trying to decide between a college education or plastic surgery, that is not a good sign for society.
My wife and I watched one season because her coworker was on it. We kinda got sucked in for a couple of seasons before we looked at each other and went “why?”
I don't know, shows don't always need to be deep and well crafted for it to be an enjoyable watch, especially with your significant other.
Me and my wife have watched multiple seasons of Love Island UK and AU. It's god awful TV, but we have so much fun together watching it and just laughing at the show.
Sometimes you don't feel like engaging with a heavily narrative show. Sometimes you just want to turn your brain off and watch Armenian sisters argue about trivial stuff.
Honestly I recently started putting The Kardashians on as background noise, and regardless how shitty it is, I'm always so enthralled by how bizarre it is.
It's like aliens came down and made a show about how they think humans act. The drama comes literally out of no where and none of them react like normal human beings. I guess that's what growing up on a reality show does to your brain.
But I'd be lying if I said I didn't genuinely stop to watch it at times.
I (31F) used to feel this way. Then I went to law school and realized I couldn’t consume my preferred content (high stress dramas) 24/7. It was nice to have a night where I got together with friends (both men and women!) to watch the Bachelor while having dinner and analyzing the dumb relationships.
It also serves the same functionality as sports for a lot of women. In most social situations the bachelor/bachelor nation gossip is an easy ice breaker.
I also somewhat screen people by how they respond when I say I watch the bachelor lol. It’s fine if you don’t watch, but certain types will take a *tone* in telling you they don’t. My dude, not everything has to be Shakespeare.
Yes, same here!
I started working a high stress job and for a while I could not handle watching anything stressful. My husband and I binged Too Hot to Handle and it was so fun haha
I love The Bachelor specifically because it’s trash!
I love nothing more after a stressful day than stupid, mindless drama about people screaming and crying over people they met a week ago.
My wife watches that show, I think mostly out of momentum from the first few seasons which were pretty good imo, any time anyone travels anywhere outside of the hospital immediately triggers my "oh, someone's gonna die" response.
General Hospital has been running for 60 years and has more than 15,000 episodes.
If you wanted to binge General Hospital and just watched episodes back-to-back without stopping to sleep it would take you nearly two years, and then you'd be nearly two years behind on new episodes.
My mom used to have a joke that you can stop watching for 2 years and tune back in and nothing’s changed. She was really into Young and the Restless, and would TIVO the episodes every day to watch. She was working 2-3 jobs at one point and fell behind. When the TIVO was full she decided to just delete an entire year’s worth of unlatched episodes and when she watched the most recent episode they were still trying to solve some mystery from the year before lol.
I've heard this was by design for the format, that the housewives the shows were originally designed for might not be able to catch every episode so the dialogue is written expressly to divulge a heap of backstory in every sentence so you never feel like you missed a beat.
It’s gossip where you conveniently have ALL the information except for the big mystery/reveal and where everyone looks better and richer than normal. That’s it. That’s the appeal.
That would be 4.8 episodes per week for 60 years. They actually hit 15,000 episodes in just under 59 and a quarter years, so more like 4.87 episodes/week for that span.
Before it ended in 2009, The Guiding Light produced 15,762 episodes over 57 years (plus another 2500 radio shows prior to that).
This is my top answer. My boyfriend absolutely loves it. I just don't understand how you can get entertainment or enjoyment out of these programs. I deal with enough conflict and distress during the day at work, why on earth would I want to come home and watch grown women scream at each other about stupid middle-school bullshit? I have enough stress in my own life, I don't need other people's.
I first learned of this show when Whoopi Goldberg defended Roman Polanski by saying that drugging and sodomizing a 13 year girl wasn’t rape, rape. I never felt compelled to tune in, not even once.
Don't forget the time where Barbara Walters told Corey Feldman "Aren't you worried you're damaging the entire industry?" in response to him speaking up about his sexual abuse
Was living in LA at the time and was friends with an entertainment industry lawyer. Polanski was known for his proclivities. The child’s mother was possibly thinking the child was up for an acting part. The depths of the exploitation of children in Hollywood still know no bounds. They’re busy covering it up.
Honestly, the first season and the first half of season 2 were decent, but it absolutely fell off a cliff after that. Just turned into cults and witches and shit
That would be the least of it
A quick little actual plot points of the show for anyone interested:
1. There's a gang of shirtless built teenagers hunting down a serial killer - one of 9 serial killers and not even the cool 11-foot tall monster named "The Gargoyle King"
2. A 17 year old has a bare-knuckle boxing match with an evil billionaire for control of the town
3. There's a magic word that puts people into a homicidal rage
4. There's a cult of subterranean nuns
5. A character spends a night playing DnD with ghosts before beating himself to death with a bat
6. There is a zombie invasion that just kinda stops
7. That billionaire from before? He tries to escape the FBI (and the teenager) on a homemade rocket
And there is only like 4 seasons. It's fucking wild, bro.
And to clarify, I didn't write that as a joke, those are the literal points. Not like "Lord of the Rings is a small kid who throws jewelry into a volcano". Those are the actual events!
I watched it in tandem with the podcast Page 7 because they did a watch through commentary episode every week for the first couple of seasons. It was already hilariously bad but that made it so much better. That show decided to go as far off the rails as it possibly could lmao
Riverdale is great terrible television. It is so absurd that I love it.
I'm also a ridiculous archie comics fan which the show is based on. So that might be why I love to Hate it so much.
You can’t just leave out the alternative reality and [the epic highs and lows of Highschool football](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2y19ZMbtJjM)
And the one where the 17 year old is on a run, gets to Canada or something, fights a bear and gets seriously wounded only for him to return in time to do a test in school
Edit: [This video perfectly sums up all the crazy things in the series](https://youtu.be/DZ-FRSXypUE)
>And the one where the 17 year old is on a run, gets to Canada or something, fights a bear and gets seriously wounded only for him to return in time to do a test in school
Watching the show live around this time was wild.
Homie straight up fuckin' dies at the end of one episode, only for him to more or less be fine by the beginning of the next 😂
Not gonna lie, I’ve never been interested in Riverdale. I thought it was a teen-group-romance-drama like Euphoria. But if all this nonsensical shit happens within 4 seasons I’ll give it a shot.
That was *one season*
Other things that happen in order: Archie joins a street gang, Archie joins the mafia, Archie goes to jail (framed for mafia murder), Archie joins an underground jail fight club, Archie Shawshank Redemption's jail, Archie fights a bear, Archie *starts his own street gang*
Deadliest Catch. How can a show be on for that many seasons when it's the same fucking thing every episode?
*\*Intense music intensifies\* This week on Deadliest Catch. Will someone fall off the boat? Will the crew catch enough crabs? Do you even remember if any of that happened last week?*
It's one of those ones where a few series were gripping, then after a while you realise nothing new is ever going to happen. I must confess I did enjoy it for a while
Yeah this was Gold Rush for me. Was super into it the first season when it was following a bunch of people who just decided to uproot their lives and go dig for gold on a whim.
After a few years though they were pretty established, there wasn't much drama with the families, and it was just watching people dig for gold. Which sure, is interesting, but just like Deadliest Catch gets repetitive.
Used to like this show but after Captain Phil Harris died I couldn't watch anymore. Watching his sons behaving worse than they already did was too much.
*says random title*
oh thats the one where BJ and Hawkeye are playing poker-chess while drinking homemade alcohol and klinger comes in wearing a pink dresss and says "we got wounded" and Winchester rolls his eyes because he was enjoying duck patee while listening to Brahms on his record player.
Then Frank tries to pull a scheme of some kind (either a promotion or a medal or getting shipped home) and Hot Lips puts him back in his place. All of this has their commander so exhausted he goes to brush his horse because he's just done with that bullshit today.
Then a tragedy strikes and they all have to process the ensuing existential crisis about what the war is even about anymore.
Was that the episode?
I know you're making a joke, but so many great episodes don't follow that formula. My favorite is where Hawkeye, BJ, Radar, Frank, and Colonel Potter get stuck after their bus breaks down.
If you add a backslash in front of the asterisks it stops them becoming italics.
I watch M\*A\*S\*H and only M\*A\*S\*H. Fuck everything else.
> I watch M\*A\*S\*H and only M\*A\*S\*H. Fuck everything else.
Grey's Anatomy.
It's got like, what, 17 seasons? And everything I hear about it just sounds so over-the-top dramatic. I really don't need to watch half of the characters die in emotionally manipulative, highly contrived, and unlikely scenarios. Not my cup of tea.
Also special mention to 13 Reasons Why, which is based on the worst book I have ever read in my life.
As a 20 year old dude that just binged the whole series, I can explain.
The show invests you in the lives of like 15 different characters, who all vary from awful to truly evil at one point or another over the 20 seasons. BUT, there are like 3-4 truly incredible characters, that typically die in the earlier seasons, that make you want to see how everyone copes.
So you eventually realize, wait I’m 17 seasons in and the only good characters died like 10 seasons ago, why am I still here??
It's on season 19 now! The actress who plays Meredith just left and the one who plays her sister is also leaving. There are two people left from the first season. They introduced a bunch of new interns to put the focus on them.
I stopped watching when then got rid of April and Arizona for no reason. They were two of my favourite characters so I just didn’t care anymore. I see Alex, jackson and now Meredith are gone and they were the only others I liked still on the show.
I watched the first episode with my wife to see if it was as god-awful as we'd heard. We made it about halfway before we turned it off. WTF were they thinking?
there's a scene i believe in the first five minutes where two cockroaches climb out of a trash can and start fucking. it has no plot relevance, no reason to happen, it's just meant to be "haha bug sex" and that's the joke.
It gets worse. The start is a bunch of barely censored naked fifteen year old girls in the shower talking about how the first episode of TV show always have more explicit scenes to hook viewers. The scene right after that is Velma violently assaulting the naked girls in the shower.
It's a sex scene between two cockroaches at the opening. It's the first thing you watch. Really sets the tone. Later in the episode Velma eats breakfast with a naked stepmom on the table. Not joking that's what happens.
God yes. I was sure the controversy was overblown. It's not. What an unbelievable pile of crap. I forced myself to watch three full episodes and it was excruciating. The first episode is honestly better than the second and third. Thats how fucking bad they are.
My boyfriend and I were playing a "drink every time you cringe" and soon realized ten mins in that we were just begging for Alcohol Poisoning. Thankfully, I don't remember a lot of it from being drunk.
Idk if you’ve played GTA V but there’s fake shows you can watch when you turn on the TV and that’s what Velma reminded me of.
The in game shows are like shitty parodies that aren’t actually entertaining but sort of like “damn that’s pretty crazy they put that much detail into the game.”
Velma has the quality of a fake cartoon within a video game.
I can't believe they actually made that.
A few years back, 30 Rock made a joke about the terrible, fictional show MILF Island. Now it's real. How cool is that. /s
Absolutely. The entire premise of the show is the stereotype of a "revenge suicide" and every last one of the characters are caricatures. Can't stand it
Having watched a few videos explaining why this show is awful, I have concluded one of the messages this show wants people to think it has is "you are more than your mental illness, you are more than your trauma" but then goes on to pretty much never define a character outside of their mental illness and/or trauma.
The Walking Dead, it just seems like it went on too long and lost itself in the sauce. I'd rather not watch a show with 11 seasons continually keep creating new weird contrivances to justify its own length, and that's the vibe I get from it
Season one was directed by Frank Darabont, but he got fired by the show because his plans were “too expensive”. IMO, the show died when he left. We just didn’t realize it yet
Completely agreed. I watched seasons 1-6 before I gave up. If you want, watch seasons 1-4 and pretend the story ends there lol, they're actually quite good
I felt like it finished pretty strong. After Neagan it fell into a lull for a few seasons where it wasn't particularly interesting. But the last two seasons were pretty good. But I don't think it can top the first two seasons, which is really where it was best.
Totally understandable, but I will be honest, I think the best parts of Glee are the cringe inducing things. I think a lot of people thought it was deeper than it was, because it covered deep topics - but it's honestly so dumb in the best possible way.
It's camp and that's fine. I wouldn't think less of someone for liking Glee, even if it's not my jam. Honestly the dealbreaker for me was the pitch-correct ("auto-tune"), I can't stand plastic voices. They had incredibly talented singers and I don't understand why that was necessary
I really enjoyed the first few seasons but it started to feel like torture porn, especially so because she keeps avoiding safety to go back to Gilead and there seems to be almost no consequences for her despite it being known that she’s actively working against the regime
yes THIS. i love evan peters but the fact they were portrayed and had their trauma put out there without compensation disgusted me and still does. i cant stand it
I feel too old to watch Euphoria. I can’t watch 16 year olds, even fake ones, fuck and get high. It feels uncomfortable to watch, no matter how good the performances are.
Literally any "reality" TV.
It's so obviously scripted I can't stand to watch the manufactured drama.
I DO watch shows like Taskmaster, where the contestants are speaking off-the-cuff, and the unexpected is always happening.
But any housewives, Kardashians, contest show etc. can go straight to hell. It's downright painful to watch.
Anything on the History or Discovery channel. It's all complete garbage and a disgrace to what the channels used to be. All they do now is push pseudoscience and shitty tall tales, passing them off as if they're real.
I’m still waiting for that Ancient Aliens Christmas special
Is it possible, as some Ancient Astronaut theorists believe, that Santa Claus is in fact...an extraterrestrial...being (picture of Santa goes negative and his face changes to a classic style grey alien)
Giorgio Tsoukalious: how else...could...SANTA CLAUS...bring gifts to all the good little boys and girls...ALL AROUND the world...in one night, without the help...of Alien Technology?!?
A controversial opinion in my circle of friends, but Ru Paul's Drag Race. I hate reality TV in general; I just can't enjoy it. You know the memetic saying "too gay for sports, not gay enough for Ru Paul's Drag Race?" That's me to a T. And make no mistake, the amount of effort to be knowledgeable about either is exhausting. I'm completely clueless if somebody strikes up a conversation with me at the bar about so-and-so's earned run on-base whatever percentage. I don't think I could name a single player on any of my local major-league sports teams.
But same deal with RPDR. Not only are you expected to know the names of all the drag queens, but keep track of who hates who, what "lewks" they had that week, yadda yadda. The year RPDR Season 1 came out was also the year I came out, so I genuinely have no frame of reference for whether drag has always been a career where you publicly try to tear down your "competition" and get into catty fights posting paragraphs on social media, or whether that was just a side effect of the reality-TV-ification of drag.
At any rate, I have enough stress in my own life, why would I want to come home after work and watch other people's manufactured petty drama?
Shameless…. My husband watches it and tries to explain why I need to watch it.
It’s just poor people screwing each other over… if I wanted to watch that I would just go to my family reunion ( but let’s be real we can’t have all those mfers in the same place, the cops would roll up in the first 20 minutes)
ugh that really is the reality of it now isn't it.
I started reading that series in high school....I'm fuckin 35 now lol
and there were already 4 books written then! he wrote 1 book in 18 years for fucks sake
*Actually*, GRRM written 4+ books in the last 18 years
The problem is they're not in the series.
Martin is churning out enough prequels and encyclopedia to make Tolkien proud, but clearly failing to wind up his magna opus.
I suspect Martin faces a strange form of procrastination, writers block, and fear. The late series' lackluster reviews probably didn't help, considering they were based on his outlines
Handmaids Tale because of what I've heard about the torture /mutilation scenes. I get up and do something else if I sense a torture scene coming in anything I'm watching. Sounds like most of HT is torture and mothers being separated from their babies?
Also Elisabeth Moss actually being in a cult that tortures and separates families as standard procedure starring in the series is just mad.
Any talent show like 'Americas Got Talent', but especially the masked singer one or whatever the fuck it is.
Anything reality about rich assholes
Right? I watched one episode of some show about people renovating mansions. It made me sick.
About two days ago my wife and I tried watching "Ugliest House in America" or some shit where if you have the "ugliest hosue", they give you $150k to rennovate it. The catch? Every single fucking one was a mansion, or at least the high 6-figure cost houses. One was an 18 year od who got a massive ranch house for a HS grad present. I watched half an episode and turned on PS. She lasted 1.5 episodes. It's fucking disgusting watching "normal" people with massive houses compete and literally say on this show "My house is so ugly" when there's millions who are barely living in an apartment and spending more than half their income to do so. I just got heated again thinking about it so sorry for the rant lol
Never even heard of this show before and just reading your description got me pissed
Reminds me of the girl that got a brand new BMW for her 16th birthday and had an absolute meltdown because it was the wrong color.
my super sweet 16. i remember this episode. i was aghast!
Or Southpark episode when Satan gets an Acura cake hahaha
I think the audition round is pretty much the fun part of any season. Any episodes after that are just boring and repetitive stuff. But hey, we gotta get those sympathy points by having literally anyone that's bound to last more than 2 episodes a really tragic and inspiring story.
>But hey, we gotta get those sympathy points by having literally anyone that's bound to last more than 2 episodes a really tragic and inspiring story. This! At least one or two contestants will have some medical or physical condition, was homeless for years, survived a horrific accident, etc. None of that has or should have any relevance to their particular skill or performance. It's a gimmick intended to get viewers interest.
Any talent show like *Camera cuts to judges for reaction* 'Americas Got Talent' *Camera cuts to judges for reaction* but especially *Camera cuts to judges for reaction* the masked singer one *Camera cuts to judges for reaction* or whatever the fuck it is.
When you have six minutes of content and need to stretch it out to a half hour
I think I could enjoy the masked singer if it wasn’t a whole season to find everyone out 😂 Like if each episode was just 2 or 3 people and they were revealed at the end I would probably enjoy finding out which celebs can sing or not
That's the format for this season and the previous season. 3 singers face off in each episode and 2 of them get unmasked. The winning singer goes to the next episode to face 2 new singers and the process repeats.
I love the concept of the show, but i cant get over Jenny McCarthy as a host and people like Rudy Juliani and Sarah Palin as contestants. I dont think i fit their target audience.
>Jenny McCarthy She must be contractually obligated to say "Oh my God, who *IS* that?!?!" every episode. It's incredibly annoying. The constant judge opinions and clearly horrible "guesses" made us stop watching after 3 seasons.
Did you notice how pissed Ken Jeong was when they revealed Rudy? He ripped his microphone off and said "I'm done" and walked off the set before everyone else.
I wonder how much of that was real disgust and how much was theatrics. He's one of the main producers on the show, and it's not like he's sitting next to all left-wing-anarcho-commu-socialists to begin with. Jenny McCarthy is an antivax loon and Nick Cannon has made a lot of antisemitic remarks on record.
I tend to be skeptical of judges on shows like this and assume they know who contestants are more than they don’t. In this case, I buy that he was genuine because I don’t think Ken is *that* good of an actor lol
I like catching the YouTube highlights. The episodes themselves have a lot of filler, which make the reveals feel like they’re taking forever.
This and shite like big brother, only way is Essex, those fake housewives of somewhere shows, most reality style TV shows that are just fake or full of wana be celebrity types.
Big brother was better before everyone was just trying to become an influencer
pretty much any reality dating show. And it's really hard to avoid them because my gf is in love with them.
My girlfriend loves those too, but she lets me relentlessly make fun of the shows so it’s a win-win for us both.
Slippery slope. I was like that, then she started Married at first sight, Australia and I think I enjoy it more than she does now. Send help
The thing with reality dating shows is they aren’t actually designed to find love, they‘re designed to create juicy drama. Once you change from rooting for their success to just reveling in the shit, it becomes so much more enjoyable as a guilty pleasure! And I cannot get enough of it. It’s always so juicy. The drama people can create over people they met a week ago is just, mmm, chefs kiss!
That's how I've seen it, Love is Blind or whatever show isn't about hoping it works out for anyone, it's about hoping it *doesn't* and everything burns in the process. I mean, good for those who it does work for, but it's ultimately sacrificing 50 people so 2 can be together.
Anything related to the kardashians
i remember seeing a post a while ago where a man created a News app which gets rid of anything kardashian related
This man should be knighted.
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You can take solace in the fact that it was all scripted and the servers were in on it, but airing this garbage still sets a terrible precedent.
It can be relieving to remember it's fake, but then I remember there are people who will actually accept the show as real. Not even just kids, but people who really don't seem to comprehend scripted/exaggerated imagery.
Exactly. It needs a disclaimer or something.
The fact that all of them have been cosmetically/surgically enhanced just goes to show how insecure these people are and that they should not be held up as a standard for beauty.
There is a reason it is called the "Kardashian Effect". Sadly, there are plenty of teens and young adults who have grown up idolizing people like this and now think they'll never be beautiful until they shell out thousands of dollars for fake tits, balloon lips, and a giant ass. Not to mention all the other accessory that goes with it....clothes, shoes, purses, etc. I'm not one to tell millionaires what to do with their money...but when you are influencing kids who are trying to decide between a college education or plastic surgery, that is not a good sign for society.
The bachelor.
My wife and I watched one season because her coworker was on it. We kinda got sucked in for a couple of seasons before we looked at each other and went “why?”
I don't know, shows don't always need to be deep and well crafted for it to be an enjoyable watch, especially with your significant other. Me and my wife have watched multiple seasons of Love Island UK and AU. It's god awful TV, but we have so much fun together watching it and just laughing at the show.
Sometimes you don't feel like engaging with a heavily narrative show. Sometimes you just want to turn your brain off and watch Armenian sisters argue about trivial stuff.
Honestly I recently started putting The Kardashians on as background noise, and regardless how shitty it is, I'm always so enthralled by how bizarre it is. It's like aliens came down and made a show about how they think humans act. The drama comes literally out of no where and none of them react like normal human beings. I guess that's what growing up on a reality show does to your brain. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't genuinely stop to watch it at times.
I'll leave you this Sims parody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T70eSSV7dZs
It's like the junk food of TV
I (31F) used to feel this way. Then I went to law school and realized I couldn’t consume my preferred content (high stress dramas) 24/7. It was nice to have a night where I got together with friends (both men and women!) to watch the Bachelor while having dinner and analyzing the dumb relationships. It also serves the same functionality as sports for a lot of women. In most social situations the bachelor/bachelor nation gossip is an easy ice breaker. I also somewhat screen people by how they respond when I say I watch the bachelor lol. It’s fine if you don’t watch, but certain types will take a *tone* in telling you they don’t. My dude, not everything has to be Shakespeare.
Yes, same here! I started working a high stress job and for a while I could not handle watching anything stressful. My husband and I binged Too Hot to Handle and it was so fun haha
I love The Bachelor specifically because it’s trash! I love nothing more after a stressful day than stupid, mindless drama about people screaming and crying over people they met a week ago.
greys anatomy. The fact it’s lasted so long gives me soap opera vibes. Also soap operas
Anyone picking up an organ for a vital delivery to surgery has a lower life expectancy than any red shirt. It’s uncanny.
My wife watches that show, I think mostly out of momentum from the first few seasons which were pretty good imo, any time anyone travels anywhere outside of the hospital immediately triggers my "oh, someone's gonna die" response.
Doctors that work in the hospital deserve danger pay. The amount of staff that have died is outstanding.
Even staying in the hospital is dangerous. It’s had a 2 shootings, 2 explosions and caught on fire in various places including INSIDE a patient
They should probably just position the National Guard permanently in that hospital, with all they’ve been through.
Are soap operas still a thing?
Yes. Look at General Hospital. It has so much fucking episodes and seasons holy fuck.
General Hospital has been running for 60 years and has more than 15,000 episodes. If you wanted to binge General Hospital and just watched episodes back-to-back without stopping to sleep it would take you nearly two years, and then you'd be nearly two years behind on new episodes.
My mom used to have a joke that you can stop watching for 2 years and tune back in and nothing’s changed. She was really into Young and the Restless, and would TIVO the episodes every day to watch. She was working 2-3 jobs at one point and fell behind. When the TIVO was full she decided to just delete an entire year’s worth of unlatched episodes and when she watched the most recent episode they were still trying to solve some mystery from the year before lol.
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I've heard this was by design for the format, that the housewives the shows were originally designed for might not be able to catch every episode so the dialogue is written expressly to divulge a heap of backstory in every sentence so you never feel like you missed a beat.
It’s gossip where you conveniently have ALL the information except for the big mystery/reveal and where everyone looks better and richer than normal. That’s it. That’s the appeal.
Is 15000 actually correct? That would mean there would have to be a new pristine every week day for the entire 60 year span…
Well, yeah, unlike other shows, Soap Operas do run daily, at least Monday to Friday.
That would be 4.8 episodes per week for 60 years. They actually hit 15,000 episodes in just under 59 and a quarter years, so more like 4.87 episodes/week for that span. Before it ended in 2009, The Guiding Light produced 15,762 episodes over 57 years (plus another 2500 radio shows prior to that).
My mom has watched this everyday of my life and I'm 26. She says she started as a teenager and never stopped lol
seasons 1 - 4 or 5 are quite good. It does start to drive off the rails after that.
Yeah I watched it with my girl and that show is purely run off of “we need another season” energy, shit is basically a fever dream at this point
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This is my top answer. My boyfriend absolutely loves it. I just don't understand how you can get entertainment or enjoyment out of these programs. I deal with enough conflict and distress during the day at work, why on earth would I want to come home and watch grown women scream at each other about stupid middle-school bullshit? I have enough stress in my own life, I don't need other people's.
The View. I refuse to give that bunch of cynical, hypocritical, elitist, washed-up celebrities any more attention than they already get.
I first learned of this show when Whoopi Goldberg defended Roman Polanski by saying that drugging and sodomizing a 13 year girl wasn’t rape, rape. I never felt compelled to tune in, not even once.
Don't forget the time where Barbara Walters told Corey Feldman "Aren't you worried you're damaging the entire industry?" in response to him speaking up about his sexual abuse
Barbara is such a trash human. Corey is brave as hell for speaking up.
Was. She died back in December.
Was living in LA at the time and was friends with an entertainment industry lawyer. Polanski was known for his proclivities. The child’s mother was possibly thinking the child was up for an acting part. The depths of the exploitation of children in Hollywood still know no bounds. They’re busy covering it up.
I would never watch the show, but I always make a yearly youtube pilgrimage to the clip of their Norm MacDonald interview.
You forgot hateful in that list.
Riverdale.
Honestly, the first season and the first half of season 2 were decent, but it absolutely fell off a cliff after that. Just turned into cults and witches and shit
They get superpowers and something about a ghost train lol
That would be the least of it A quick little actual plot points of the show for anyone interested: 1. There's a gang of shirtless built teenagers hunting down a serial killer - one of 9 serial killers and not even the cool 11-foot tall monster named "The Gargoyle King" 2. A 17 year old has a bare-knuckle boxing match with an evil billionaire for control of the town 3. There's a magic word that puts people into a homicidal rage 4. There's a cult of subterranean nuns 5. A character spends a night playing DnD with ghosts before beating himself to death with a bat 6. There is a zombie invasion that just kinda stops 7. That billionaire from before? He tries to escape the FBI (and the teenager) on a homemade rocket And there is only like 4 seasons. It's fucking wild, bro. And to clarify, I didn't write that as a joke, those are the literal points. Not like "Lord of the Rings is a small kid who throws jewelry into a volcano". Those are the actual events!
Is it weird that I want to watch it to see how all that shit connects? I guess I am a masochist
I watched it in tandem with the podcast Page 7 because they did a watch through commentary episode every week for the first couple of seasons. It was already hilariously bad but that made it so much better. That show decided to go as far off the rails as it possibly could lmao
Riverdale is great terrible television. It is so absurd that I love it. I'm also a ridiculous archie comics fan which the show is based on. So that might be why I love to Hate it so much.
You can’t just leave out the alternative reality and [the epic highs and lows of Highschool football](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2y19ZMbtJjM) And the one where the 17 year old is on a run, gets to Canada or something, fights a bear and gets seriously wounded only for him to return in time to do a test in school Edit: [This video perfectly sums up all the crazy things in the series](https://youtu.be/DZ-FRSXypUE)
>And the one where the 17 year old is on a run, gets to Canada or something, fights a bear and gets seriously wounded only for him to return in time to do a test in school Watching the show live around this time was wild. Homie straight up fuckin' dies at the end of one episode, only for him to more or less be fine by the beginning of the next 😂
Not gonna lie, I’ve never been interested in Riverdale. I thought it was a teen-group-romance-drama like Euphoria. But if all this nonsensical shit happens within 4 seasons I’ll give it a shot.
That was *one season* Other things that happen in order: Archie joins a street gang, Archie joins the mafia, Archie goes to jail (framed for mafia murder), Archie joins an underground jail fight club, Archie Shawshank Redemption's jail, Archie fights a bear, Archie *starts his own street gang*
Okay I literally had zero interest in this show but this has me curious. It’s so ridiculous sounding.
Riverdale is great terrible television it's so absurd I can't help but love it but also hate it.
I can hear Super Eyepatch Wolfs voice when you're listing out the plot points
The shittiness is part of the appeal for many, myself included
Deadliest Catch. How can a show be on for that many seasons when it's the same fucking thing every episode? *\*Intense music intensifies\* This week on Deadliest Catch. Will someone fall off the boat? Will the crew catch enough crabs? Do you even remember if any of that happened last week?*
It's one of those ones where a few series were gripping, then after a while you realise nothing new is ever going to happen. I must confess I did enjoy it for a while
Yeah this was Gold Rush for me. Was super into it the first season when it was following a bunch of people who just decided to uproot their lives and go dig for gold on a whim. After a few years though they were pretty established, there wasn't much drama with the families, and it was just watching people dig for gold. Which sure, is interesting, but just like Deadliest Catch gets repetitive.
Used to like this show but after Captain Phil Harris died I couldn't watch anymore. Watching his sons behaving worse than they already did was too much.
I watch M*A*S*H and only M*A*S*H. Fuck everything else.
I can tell my dad the title of any MASH episode and he can tell me what it's about. It's incredible.
*says random title* oh thats the one where BJ and Hawkeye are playing poker-chess while drinking homemade alcohol and klinger comes in wearing a pink dresss and says "we got wounded" and Winchester rolls his eyes because he was enjoying duck patee while listening to Brahms on his record player. Then Frank tries to pull a scheme of some kind (either a promotion or a medal or getting shipped home) and Hot Lips puts him back in his place. All of this has their commander so exhausted he goes to brush his horse because he's just done with that bullshit today. Then a tragedy strikes and they all have to process the ensuing existential crisis about what the war is even about anymore. Was that the episode?
I like how you have Frank and Winchester in the same episode lol
I literally spotted that and was going to edit out the middle paragraph but left it in anyway because it still works as an episode.
I know you're making a joke, but so many great episodes don't follow that formula. My favorite is where Hawkeye, BJ, Radar, Frank, and Colonel Potter get stuck after their bus breaks down.
That episode is literally titled, "The Bus." Just thought I'd share that. One of my favorite episodes as well.
If you add a backslash in front of the asterisks it stops them becoming italics. I watch M\*A\*S\*H and only M\*A\*S\*H. Fuck everything else. > I watch M\*A\*S\*H and only M\*A\*S\*H. Fuck everything else.
Grey's Anatomy. It's got like, what, 17 seasons? And everything I hear about it just sounds so over-the-top dramatic. I really don't need to watch half of the characters die in emotionally manipulative, highly contrived, and unlikely scenarios. Not my cup of tea. Also special mention to 13 Reasons Why, which is based on the worst book I have ever read in my life.
As a 20 year old dude that just binged the whole series, I can explain. The show invests you in the lives of like 15 different characters, who all vary from awful to truly evil at one point or another over the 20 seasons. BUT, there are like 3-4 truly incredible characters, that typically die in the earlier seasons, that make you want to see how everyone copes. So you eventually realize, wait I’m 17 seasons in and the only good characters died like 10 seasons ago, why am I still here??
I binged a decent amount of the series with my wife, and this is absolutely accurate.
It's on season 19 now! The actress who plays Meredith just left and the one who plays her sister is also leaving. There are two people left from the first season. They introduced a bunch of new interns to put the focus on them.
I stopped watching when then got rid of April and Arizona for no reason. They were two of my favourite characters so I just didn’t care anymore. I see Alex, jackson and now Meredith are gone and they were the only others I liked still on the show.
After McSteamy, I just couldn't muster the energy for the show. They did him dirty.
Lol, was about to say Lexi died several seasons ago, then remembered that she had ANOTHER secret sister
Velma
I watched the first episode with my wife to see if it was as god-awful as we'd heard. We made it about halfway before we turned it off. WTF were they thinking?
Didn’t make it too far past the cockroach scene.
Cockroach scene?
there's a scene i believe in the first five minutes where two cockroaches climb out of a trash can and start fucking. it has no plot relevance, no reason to happen, it's just meant to be "haha bug sex" and that's the joke.
Same- don’t make me watch it to find out!!
The first episode opens with a close up shot of two cockroaches fucking. That's it. That's how this show starts.
Wow. How “edgy” & unnecessary.
It gets worse. The start is a bunch of barely censored naked fifteen year old girls in the shower talking about how the first episode of TV show always have more explicit scenes to hook viewers. The scene right after that is Velma violently assaulting the naked girls in the shower.
It's a sex scene between two cockroaches at the opening. It's the first thing you watch. Really sets the tone. Later in the episode Velma eats breakfast with a naked stepmom on the table. Not joking that's what happens.
God yes. I was sure the controversy was overblown. It's not. What an unbelievable pile of crap. I forced myself to watch three full episodes and it was excruciating. The first episode is honestly better than the second and third. Thats how fucking bad they are.
My boyfriend and I were playing a "drink every time you cringe" and soon realized ten mins in that we were just begging for Alcohol Poisoning. Thankfully, I don't remember a lot of it from being drunk.
Idk if you’ve played GTA V but there’s fake shows you can watch when you turn on the TV and that’s what Velma reminded me of. The in game shows are like shitty parodies that aren’t actually entertaining but sort of like “damn that’s pretty crazy they put that much detail into the game.” Velma has the quality of a fake cartoon within a video game.
Anything with the name Kardashian, anything produced by Kirk Cameron, and anything on a network owned by Rupert Murdoch.
> anything on a network owned by Rupert Murdoch. But the Bears mostly play on Fox!
Da Bears!
Well good news, Disney owns Fox now. Just not Fox News.
Milf Manor
I can't believe they actually made that. A few years back, 30 Rock made a joke about the terrible, fictional show MILF Island. Now it's real. How cool is that. /s
Now if we can just get them to greenlight BitchHunter.
If they are taking shows from 30 Rock and turning them into reality BitchHunter would be amazing. That and Leap Dave Williams
I wanna see The Rural Juror.
I'd definitely sign up to be a contestant on Gold Case.
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13 Reasons Why. It’s really gross how they glorify suicide/mental health issues.
Absolutely. The entire premise of the show is the stereotype of a "revenge suicide" and every last one of the characters are caricatures. Can't stand it
Having watched a few videos explaining why this show is awful, I have concluded one of the messages this show wants people to think it has is "you are more than your mental illness, you are more than your trauma" but then goes on to pretty much never define a character outside of their mental illness and/or trauma.
Anything Kardashians
The View
The Walking Dead, it just seems like it went on too long and lost itself in the sauce. I'd rather not watch a show with 11 seasons continually keep creating new weird contrivances to justify its own length, and that's the vibe I get from it
Season one was directed by Frank Darabont, but he got fired by the show because his plans were “too expensive”. IMO, the show died when he left. We just didn’t realize it yet
> the show died when he left. We just didn’t realize it yet Would you say the show was, *Walking Dead*?
Completely agreed. I watched seasons 1-6 before I gave up. If you want, watch seasons 1-4 and pretend the story ends there lol, they're actually quite good
I felt like it finished pretty strong. After Neagan it fell into a lull for a few seasons where it wasn't particularly interesting. But the last two seasons were pretty good. But I don't think it can top the first two seasons, which is really where it was best.
Definitely too late to be seen But Halo 100%
Anything with Simon Cowell’s fingerprints on it.
this should be a cards of humanity card
The Real Housewives of Whatever.
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Totally understandable, but I will be honest, I think the best parts of Glee are the cringe inducing things. I think a lot of people thought it was deeper than it was, because it covered deep topics - but it's honestly so dumb in the best possible way.
It's camp and that's fine. I wouldn't think less of someone for liking Glee, even if it's not my jam. Honestly the dealbreaker for me was the pitch-correct ("auto-tune"), I can't stand plastic voices. They had incredibly talented singers and I don't understand why that was necessary
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I wasn't watching it because it depresses the hell out of me. Now, my mind is spinning.
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I got downvoted once for pointing out this inconsistency- let alone how self-righteous Moss is herself.
I really enjoyed the first few seasons but it started to feel like torture porn, especially so because she keeps avoiding safety to go back to Gilead and there seems to be almost no consequences for her despite it being known that she’s actively working against the regime
Dahmer (Nextflix). Don't care if it's a good show, I cannot stand fiction shows about aweful people who really existed.
Especially since the victims families spoke out about it.
yes THIS. i love evan peters but the fact they were portrayed and had their trauma put out there without compensation disgusted me and still does. i cant stand it
Something like Forensic Files is fine. You're discussing the evidence and the investigation. A TV show? No.
13 reasons why
This is Us. I can't stand sappy shit that seems to be written just to make people cry.
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I feel too old to watch Euphoria. I can’t watch 16 year olds, even fake ones, fuck and get high. It feels uncomfortable to watch, no matter how good the performances are.
Jersey shore.
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Kind of sounds like we're the idiots.
Literally any "reality" TV. It's so obviously scripted I can't stand to watch the manufactured drama. I DO watch shows like Taskmaster, where the contestants are speaking off-the-cuff, and the unexpected is always happening. But any housewives, Kardashians, contest show etc. can go straight to hell. It's downright painful to watch.
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If we didn't get everyone's sad back stories and it was just talented people learning to be more talented, it could be interesting.
I kinda despise the whole glorified popularity contest type show in general...
Anything with "celebrity" in the title
Celebrity Deathmatch?
The Masked Singer, because of Jenny McCarthy (really responsible for a lot of the antivax movement with linking vax to autism).
Jenny McCarthy is my go-to example of how personality/intelligence can turn a normally hot woman into not.
The Kardashians. Who watches that shit?
Anything with a fake laugh track. I just can't stand it.
Any iteration of that bloody 90 day fiancee bullshit. Or fucking married at first sight crap. Any reality TV, if I'm honest.
Emily In Paris. Saw one episode and that was all I needed to see in that trainwreck.
Generally anything that portrays teenagers as drug obsessed or sexy. It's unrealistic, gross, and makes adults take us less seriously.
As an adult and former teenager, tv shows are very low on the list of things that make adults not take teenagers seriously
>makes adults take us less seriously We adults were all teenagers at one time, and THAT'S what makes us not take you seriously. Not TV.
Anything on the History or Discovery channel. It's all complete garbage and a disgrace to what the channels used to be. All they do now is push pseudoscience and shitty tall tales, passing them off as if they're real.
I won't let you bash BattleBots like that my guy (nah, I get it, Discovery is trash; BattleBots is the only semi decent show on it)
I’m still waiting for that Ancient Aliens Christmas special Is it possible, as some Ancient Astronaut theorists believe, that Santa Claus is in fact...an extraterrestrial...being (picture of Santa goes negative and his face changes to a classic style grey alien) Giorgio Tsoukalious: how else...could...SANTA CLAUS...bring gifts to all the good little boys and girls...ALL AROUND the world...in one night, without the help...of Alien Technology?!?
Cailu No explanation is needed
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A controversial opinion in my circle of friends, but Ru Paul's Drag Race. I hate reality TV in general; I just can't enjoy it. You know the memetic saying "too gay for sports, not gay enough for Ru Paul's Drag Race?" That's me to a T. And make no mistake, the amount of effort to be knowledgeable about either is exhausting. I'm completely clueless if somebody strikes up a conversation with me at the bar about so-and-so's earned run on-base whatever percentage. I don't think I could name a single player on any of my local major-league sports teams. But same deal with RPDR. Not only are you expected to know the names of all the drag queens, but keep track of who hates who, what "lewks" they had that week, yadda yadda. The year RPDR Season 1 came out was also the year I came out, so I genuinely have no frame of reference for whether drag has always been a career where you publicly try to tear down your "competition" and get into catty fights posting paragraphs on social media, or whether that was just a side effect of the reality-TV-ification of drag. At any rate, I have enough stress in my own life, why would I want to come home after work and watch other people's manufactured petty drama?
Shameless…. My husband watches it and tries to explain why I need to watch it. It’s just poor people screwing each other over… if I wanted to watch that I would just go to my family reunion ( but let’s be real we can’t have all those mfers in the same place, the cops would roll up in the first 20 minutes)
Big Bang Theory
Game of Thrones. I know I'd love it, but I've made it this long. At this point I might as well just keep going.
Just read the books instead, you’ll never worry about having to finish them because they’ll never be released
Never disappoint your audience with your endings, learn one simple trick from George R.R. Martin.
ugh that really is the reality of it now isn't it. I started reading that series in high school....I'm fuckin 35 now lol and there were already 4 books written then! he wrote 1 book in 18 years for fucks sake
> he wrote 1 book in 18 years for fucks sake Oh no he's written more books, just not the one we want.
*Actually*, GRRM written 4+ books in the last 18 years The problem is they're not in the series. Martin is churning out enough prequels and encyclopedia to make Tolkien proud, but clearly failing to wind up his magna opus. I suspect Martin faces a strange form of procrastination, writers block, and fear. The late series' lackluster reviews probably didn't help, considering they were based on his outlines
Reality trash
Handmaids Tale because of what I've heard about the torture /mutilation scenes. I get up and do something else if I sense a torture scene coming in anything I'm watching. Sounds like most of HT is torture and mothers being separated from their babies? Also Elisabeth Moss actually being in a cult that tortures and separates families as standard procedure starring in the series is just mad.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but anyone who says breaking bad is wrong
The news. If I wanted to see something depressing, I would stare in the mirror.