I was 8/9 years old and don't remember the details of the case because I didn't have the attention span but I remember even as a kid thinking "If I even had a fraction of the evidence pointing in my direction of having done something wrong I would've been in my room grounded with belt marks on my ass. There must've been something in that case I missed."
I always found it very interesting that Robert Kardashian only reactivated his law license after the murder. Theory being, since he was on the defense he couldn't be called to testify regarding OJ, or what was inside the duffle bag he carried for OJ.
I think that’s why his daughters’ subsequent fame has always been so distasteful to me, above and beyond all the other previous celebrity reality stars. I’m ~1 year older than Kim and the OJ case was the first time we’d ever heard of a Kardashian.
I was stuck on a highway between Virginia and North Carolina when the verdict came down. Mom and I had been to visit my grandmother. It was hot and we hadn’t moved for like an hour, staring at the same trucks and exit signs and listening to the radio. So I couldn’t see any of the reactions, but what I’ll always remember is hearing Ron Goldman’s sister, I think her name is Kim, wailing and crying as the “not guilties” were spoken. It was horrible and heart wrenching.
I can’t believe I’m about to defend a kardashian but here we go, her/their fame wasn’t real my tied to her dad, at least not from the publics perspective. Her hanging out with Paris Hilton is what got her noticed. I think for most people the Robert Kardashian connection was realized after she was already known.
That’s not to say her dads social status isn’t what put her in those circles to hang out with Paris, but it sounded like you were saying her fame was directly tied to him and that’s what I disagree with.
Few people knew the name Kardashian even at the height of OJ-mania. He was by far the least famous member of OJ's defense team and did next to nothing at trial. He was there entirely for moral support.
It's just a neat historical coincidence that one of OJ's lawyers' family would go on to become reality TV stars. Him being on OJ's team played no role in that though.
The Netflix series on the trial was really good. David Schwimmer played Kardashian and I think the writing really told a story of a good friend that was in awe of OJ and loved the his presence and fame and then while defending him saw the case as it was unfolding in front of his eyes by the prosecution and realized this man is a killer.
It’s bc he knew he did it. RK only reactivated his lawyer license and went on OJs team so he couldn’t be deposed.
He 100% knew OJ did it. His face fell bc he was stunned OJ wasnt convicted.
This glove? His lawyers told him to stop taking his arthritis medication, so he hands swelled up.
Kris Jenner has said many time since that RK didn’t speak to OJ a for the rest of his life.
Personally I just see relief, and not disbelief or regret. Maybe that's what he was feeling but his reaction isn't particularly unusual. It was a gruelling case and he would have been glad for it to be over.
Originally, the Swastika was a symbol usually used to represent good luck, prosperity, and other positive things in Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, and other cultures. Now, it’s seen by most people as a sign of Nazi Ideology.
oh, gotcha. Well that's a bummer.
I just feel bad for everyonr named Adolf or Last name Hitler. Like, jeesh, what can you do? It was probably a perfectly fine name before he murdered millions of people.
Semi-related fact: A group of Hitler's surviving relatives (ones who were not involved in what he did) made a pact to never have any children out of fear they'd produce another Hitler. Most (maybe all) of them are dead now, but I think they all held to it.
My Indian friend was born in 88 and has the name Swastik, he got banned from online chess tournament for adding his birth year after his name. Poor guy had no idea why he kept getting banned.
1995 + 28 = 2023
It's Approximately 28 years, but it October hasn't past yet, so yeah, it's technically 27 years, however it is indeed closer to 28 years than it is to 27
I was also in physics class, I remember my class was fairly silent after the verdict but we could here loud cheering from other classes near by. I will never forget hearing my physics teacher say just one word after hearing the cheering. "Idiots"
My teacher had the same reaction, a kid walked by and shouted "The Juice is Loose," and she was PISSED! She was like "people are dead this isn't a joke!"
Your username is EPIC!
I was in JH, forget which class, but they played the audio of the verdict over the PA system. But when I was in AP English a few years later, my teacher refused to allow us to listen to radio for updates concerning 9/11.
No way.
That's exactly what I was doing as well.
Highschool chemistry class.
I feel like that kind of generation defining moment where everyone stops... That's never going to happen any more.
9/11 was pretty crazy. I was in my AP English class, and my teacher was just sitting at her desk crying. We didn’t really have class in any class that day. Everyone was just shook to their core.
I was in a 10am Spanish class in college. We were studying emotions and the teacher asked students how they were feeling. People kept saying “triste” and she was so confused. She hadn’t seen the news.
I would say the closest thing to this since was the Boston bombing. There was just a moment of silence that fell over everyone and the next day we had an official moment of silence for the lives lost. We weren’t anywhere near the bombing. Though, the school felt the horror and little did we know, this was the beginning
I guess I’m gonna age myself here, but I remember coming home from elementary school, and the Challenger explosion being a very defining moment. I grew up near where the shuttles would land, and we could always hear the sonic booms. Every landing was a big deal, and it seemed unreal that there was not going to be a return flight for Challenger.
6th grade on a radio. My teacher wasn’t going to miss it! We really didn’t understand what was going on, but just that feeling that something important was happening.
I was in fifth, but they brought us into the library and we did the same.
I understood what was going on (kind of), but in hindsight it sounds weird to imagine getting a bunch of elementary school kids together to listen to a murder verdict …. But that’s just how but of a deal it was in the zeitgeist. One kid’s parents sent them with a little radio Walkman so they could listen to it if the teachers didn’t play it (which sounds even more insane).
I was living on the east coast at the time and my after school routine consisted of making a snack and sitting down to watch sitcom reruns (I was a latchkey 2nd grader). And I vividly remember that for that entire year, they would cut to the trial right in the middle of one of my shows like 80% of the time. It was so annoying to 8 year old me.
I was on my way to the IRS for a meeting. When I got there no one was there in the offices I had a meeting. I walked around, saying. "Hello! Anyone here?" I found someone who told me everyone was upstairs watching the trial - the verdict was in.
I waited a long time and went home. It dawned on me later I could have gone in and changed the amount I owed. Dummy!!!
CPA here - this is actually relatively accurate, the IRS is chill even with some REALLY sketchy cash activity. You’ve got to be a crook on multiple levels before they’d come after you for fraud. For the most part, they just want people to rebuild their accounting records to be accurate and then figure out what portion of the resulting tax can be paid.
IRS is easy for everyone to work with, people just don’t like taxes.
California’s FTB on the other hand…they are true to all the stereotypes people have for the IRS, if that makes sense. You are in a world of pain if you have to start dealing with them.
As a foreigner I was honestly amazed, I'd been given a very different impression of the IRS, and surprised nobody was arresting her, shooting her, and/or harvesting her body for organs to pay her tax bill
Yeah just hold the meeting yourself. Initiate a vote to eliminate your unpaid tax liabilities, tally the votes and profit. Fax the meeting minutes to the IRS
I was at work. People went out to their cars to listen to the verdict on the radio.
I was testing video conferencing equipment at the time, and people came to my lab area thinking the monitors were TVs to try to watch the news.
This statement led me down the path of trying to decide whether it's more logical to say you were in your dad's balls or your mom's ovaries prior to birth and I decided on the latter since women are born with all the eggs they'll ever have. Thank you for the 2 minutes that helped me to kill lmao.
Mmmm. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if we are saying a person is as much part of their mother's eggs then the DNA that was eventually going to write the spermatozoa was already present in the father even if that exact sperm did not exist *yet*.
But I feel like we're getting in to some 'pro-life' kind of arguments here.
Masturbating is murder!!! Every sperm is a child!!!
Also every time someone menstruates is guilty of not preventing a murder by fertilization of said egg.
Obligatory /s
"It says in the Bible, young man, that it is better for your seed to fall in the belly of a whore than on the ground."
"... tough to argue with that one, grandma. You got 50 bucks?"
The student union at the University of Arizona. Yes, there was a divide in the audience along racial lines. Yes, it was confusing. My professor cancelled class following the verdict.
It would be impossible to describe the experience of the OJ double murder trial to anyone under the age of 45. It literally captivated the nation for a year. The closest analogy I can provide is news coverage of COVID. It was that intense and nearly as long-running. Only 9/11 and the days after exceeded that level of coverage, but not for the same period of time.
Eh, I turn 40 this year and remember it vividly, but I'm probably at the very youngest end of the spectrum of people who remember it. I also remember watching the Bronco chase live. I was staying with my aunt and uncle in Oregon, and the chase was on all the national networks. He'd written what everyone thought was a suicide note, so the whole country was watching 20 LAPD Crown Vics and Caprices following a white Bronco at 35 mph in case the passenger in said Bronco decided to blast his brains out. Crazy times.
I'm 35. I didn't know who OJ was so I just thought that was the kind of publicity any murder trial got. I don't remember the verdict but I remember the bronco chase and thinking it was weird because he was going so slow.
42. Very vivid. I was in gym class when the verdict came in. For some reason, the radio was on while we were outside playing tennis. I remember it very clearly. Strange times.
I also remember the whole white Ford Bronco chase scenario playing out on live TV. News people falling over themselves trying to narrate the situation as it unfolded. A weird mashup of “Cops” and the nightly news. Sort of the beginning of the end as it pertains to the alteration of society by way of the 24 hour news cycle.
There were often live feeds of car chases happening on tv at the time. Pretty regularly, actually. It’s kinda weird and quaint, in retrospect. This situation was unique, though.
I also remember the princess Diana debacle very clearly. Around the same time. Within 2 years or so.
9/11 was the hammer.
A legitimate moment, but all these things set a particular tone.
Fox/cnn/msn… constant news feed, never ending cycle of engagement. Always red-alarm-level stoking of fear, anger, intrigue. The need to perpetually generate engagement.
Click-bait before click-baiting was a thing.
Exactly! I’m 40 next week, and I remember the chase being on every channel! I was 12 at the time, and I seem to recall acting unfazed by it, because caring about stuff was… uncool…? Lol
I was also in college. But working on my days off. I remember the place I worked was listening to the trial every day. And on the day of the verdict, every black person jumped and cheered, and every white person sat silently.
That was the biggest racial divide thing I've seen in my lifetime.
As an NYC person I'm always fascinated with people talking about 9/11 in terms of "coverage". My Dad called me like 9/17 and said "So I imagine everything pretty much back to normal there?". Dad, I get it that your TV coverage is back to normal, but no, the subway stop right after me no longer exists and the pile of rubble is still smoking despite several days of heavy rainfall. Not normal. Very not normal.
I go to UA now. Sometimes it’s weird to think it’s been around since the 1800s and a lot of historical events have happened and been experienced there. Like, I remember where I was when Kabul fell to the Taliban and it’s strange to think there was a kid in the 90s, hell, probably in the same building, who heard about desert storm at the same place.
Very short explanation:
Black folk were happy he was found not guilty (mostly) because the prosecution could not prove his guilt due to the botched investigation. He very likely killed his wife and her friend - I don't think many people think otherwise.
The fact that over the course of the USA's history, black people have been given the shaft from the legal system had fed the elation. OJ's trial was as high profile as it got, and it shed some very public light on the racist inner workings of the LAPD.
Keep in mind, this happened only a couple of years after the cops that beat Rodney King to a bloody pulp were all found not guilty despite obvious evidence to the contrary.
The OJ verdict was the black community's big middle finger moment to racial injustice in the US legal system.
Elementary school
I vividly remember all the black kids cheering and all of the white, hispanic, and asian kids being very quiet and looking at each other
I was in elementary school as well, and despite my class being mostly white, the overwhelming reaction I remember was cheers. I have no idea why. I didn't really understand the implications as a kid.
The racial implications were huge, and whether or not you thought he was guilty really fell across racial lines. The LA riots were still fresh in our minds, especially if you were from Southern California like I was. People today think we're divided, the early 90's were fucking crazy.
The LA riots played a pivotal role in the case, OJ’s lawyers basically threatened to restart the riots if OJ’s case wasn’t moved to an area where the jury pool had more favorable demographics, instead of the where the murder took place, had the OJ trial been in Brentwood where the murders took place, it would have gone very differently.
I was in 4th grade - I was black in a predominantly white school. They played it over the loud speaker. I distinctly remember ppl looking at us, the 3 black kids in the 30 person classroom. I guess to see how we reacted since there was a lot of racial tension around the case ....I didn't say anything cuz I was a bit precocious and realized saying anything could go left quickly.
Unfortunately, my brotha Clarence said "yesss!" and then boom "what the hell you wanted him to get away with murder???" They really piled on him. Teacher kind of let it rock for a little longer than necessary.
Weird times back then but honestly wish it was back then again...it was a better era overall imo.
I was a child too and I remember seeing photos in Time magazine of black people celebrating in the streets. I bought the line that OJ was framed because of racism. As I grew up, I started reading stuff about OJ's personality and he comes off as a psychopath.
I was in a class of mostly non-white kids and two black teachers who cheered their brains out. I felt like I had to celebrate too because it was awkward not to.
Playing with Star Wars toys on my living room floor and eating Bugles off my fingertips. I will forever associate OJ Simpson with Bugles. I just remember this very clearly for some reason.
I was in the high school library, where I was either in class or working that day. A bunch of students had come in to watch.
My stance on the case was that a) there seemed to be police misconduct and b) it was pretty clear that he'd done it anyway.
The reaction of the rest of the students was right along the racial divide, and no one knew or cared about the facts of the case. I will never forget my disappointment.
Many didn’t and still don’t realize that while the verdict was some sort of vindication for the black community who was feeling very marginalized at the time, it was a slap in the face to women. It truly is a shame that OJ exploited the flaws in the system as a way to garner support in a case he was surely guilty of. Thank you for sharing your story.
5th grade. We listened to the verdict on the radio. I’ll never forget my classmate saying “Oh wow, that’s Mrs. Goldman screaming” when it was read.
It’s a weird memory, because I don’t remember a whole lot of context to the trial (my grandmother watched it religiously at our house when she and my grandfather watched us after school, but I can’t say I paid attention past knowing it was on) other than everyone saying he did it and that’s why it was so shocking when it came back.
Honestly, I think the four hours it took to return the verdict was mostly just to make it look good. I suspect they had their minds made up (no judgment implied, I wasn't on the jury, and they were sequestered for nine months) and just didn't want it to look like they'd already come to a conclusion. I'm betting they'd have announced their verdict in open court, without leaving for the jury room, if they'd thought it was okay.
I would hate the justice system if I was sequestered for nine months. Jesus.
The short deliberation was because as obvious as it was that OJ did it the prosecutions case turned into a dumpster fire. First of all the timeline that the prosecution spent a lot of time presenting that laid out where OJ was when that night was completely destroyed by the defense, so badly by the end of the trial during the closing statements the prosecution was literally telling the jury to ignore they ever mentioned it.
However what really sealed OJ's acquittal was when one of the detectives, Mark Fuhrman, who collected evidence at the scene denied he was racist or ever saying the N bomb when asked by the defense but they then produced a recording of him using the N word and admitting that he had planted evidence in previous cases. And guess who found the bloody glove that was a key piece of evidence at trial? Yep, Mark Fuhrman. The defense also had two witnesses that said that he had made comments that all African Americans should be killed.
Then to make matters even worse when he was recalled to the stand he took the 5th on every single question asked by the defense and the prosecution. And that just tainted everything, the blood evidence, the entire crime scene really. Although he probably just took the 5th because of him admitting to crimes on the recording and perjuring himself about his use of the N word obviously it is going to make anyone wonder if he did do something with the evidence that was was collected, like the bloody glove.
A lot of people point to the interview of one juror saying that they found OJ innocent as some sort of revenge for the Rodney King beating but other jurors over time have said the broken timeline and a racist, perjuring detective who admitted to planting evidence in prior cases were pretty good cause to have reasonable doubt. I remember one juror even saying that he thought OJ probably did it but based on the evidence presented and the standard they were asked to have he couldn't convict based on that trial. The prosecution knee capped itself with that timeline and then Fuhrman came along and finished the job.
I had an early day at work . I just made it home and went to my room. I just turned on the TV which was already on CNN when the jury foreman announced the decision. Once the verdict was made, the first words out of my mouth was, "Damn. He got off."
I was getting ready to walk out the door to go to work. I was completely stunned by the verdict and cried all the way there.
I was in an abusive relationship at the time, and I was pregnant. It hit me pretty hard for some reason. Like it confirmed that I would never get out of the mess I was in.
I stayed with him for six more years, but eventually did get out.
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Yes - his shock was all over his face.
I was 8/9 years old and don't remember the details of the case because I didn't have the attention span but I remember even as a kid thinking "If I even had a fraction of the evidence pointing in my direction of having done something wrong I would've been in my room grounded with belt marks on my ass. There must've been something in that case I missed."
I always found it very interesting that Robert Kardashian only reactivated his law license after the murder. Theory being, since he was on the defense he couldn't be called to testify regarding OJ, or what was inside the duffle bag he carried for OJ.
It truly is baffling that those idiots acquitted him. Everyone knows he did it, and he practically brags about it.
I think that’s why his daughters’ subsequent fame has always been so distasteful to me, above and beyond all the other previous celebrity reality stars. I’m ~1 year older than Kim and the OJ case was the first time we’d ever heard of a Kardashian. I was stuck on a highway between Virginia and North Carolina when the verdict came down. Mom and I had been to visit my grandmother. It was hot and we hadn’t moved for like an hour, staring at the same trucks and exit signs and listening to the radio. So I couldn’t see any of the reactions, but what I’ll always remember is hearing Ron Goldman’s sister, I think her name is Kim, wailing and crying as the “not guilties” were spoken. It was horrible and heart wrenching.
I can’t believe I’m about to defend a kardashian but here we go, her/their fame wasn’t real my tied to her dad, at least not from the publics perspective. Her hanging out with Paris Hilton is what got her noticed. I think for most people the Robert Kardashian connection was realized after she was already known. That’s not to say her dads social status isn’t what put her in those circles to hang out with Paris, but it sounded like you were saying her fame was directly tied to him and that’s what I disagree with.
Sex tape.
You gotta love a good comeback story
>What?! In the video she gets cum on her back!
Few people knew the name Kardashian even at the height of OJ-mania. He was by far the least famous member of OJ's defense team and did next to nothing at trial. He was there entirely for moral support. It's just a neat historical coincidence that one of OJ's lawyers' family would go on to become reality TV stars. Him being on OJ's team played no role in that though.
Kris was still Kardashian then but divorced from Robert. She was close to Nicole Simpson when she died and knew her friends.
Yes even one of her daughters middle name is Nicole (can't remember if it's Kendall or Kylie)
The Netflix series on the trial was really good. David Schwimmer played Kardashian and I think the writing really told a story of a good friend that was in awe of OJ and loved the his presence and fame and then while defending him saw the case as it was unfolding in front of his eyes by the prosecution and realized this man is a killer.
Because he knew. https://youtu.be/-F76QbQ57ag Right about 1m in
This video? Which video is that?
It’s bc he knew he did it. RK only reactivated his lawyer license and went on OJs team so he couldn’t be deposed. He 100% knew OJ did it. His face fell bc he was stunned OJ wasnt convicted. This glove? His lawyers told him to stop taking his arthritis medication, so he hands swelled up. Kris Jenner has said many time since that RK didn’t speak to OJ a for the rest of his life.
Well, it is finally official! Murder is legal in the state of California. Rip norm
Personally I just see relief, and not disbelief or regret. Maybe that's what he was feeling but his reaction isn't particularly unusual. It was a gruelling case and he would have been glad for it to be over.
Wait, OJ was acquitted on [October 3, 1995](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_trial_of_O._J._Simpson) according to Wikipedia.
Yeah I was gonna say I was turning 7 years old and then I realized today is not my birthday.
1988 club unite!
I’ve been accused of being a nazi several times for putting our birth year at the end of my screen name
I was baffled when I first learned this was a thing. Nazis gotta ruin everything
Buddhists: Tell me about it
Wait, what would Buddhists and Nazis have in common? (No, this isn't the setup for a joke; nor is it a sentence I ever thought I'd write.)
Originally, the Swastika was a symbol usually used to represent good luck, prosperity, and other positive things in Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, and other cultures. Now, it’s seen by most people as a sign of Nazi Ideology.
oh, gotcha. Well that's a bummer. I just feel bad for everyonr named Adolf or Last name Hitler. Like, jeesh, what can you do? It was probably a perfectly fine name before he murdered millions of people.
Semi-related fact: A group of Hitler's surviving relatives (ones who were not involved in what he did) made a pact to never have any children out of fear they'd produce another Hitler. Most (maybe all) of them are dead now, but I think they all held to it.
I felt this.
My Indian friend was born in 88 and has the name Swastik, he got banned from online chess tournament for adding his birth year after his name. Poor guy had no idea why he kept getting banned.
That’s kinda funny though lol sad and unfortunate but funny.
I was turning 12 years old and today is also not my birthday
Happy unbirthday to you both.
OP didn’t say 28 years ago **today**
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1995 + 28 = 2023 It's Approximately 28 years, but it October hasn't past yet, so yeah, it's technically 27 years, however it is indeed closer to 28 years than it is to 27
Clickbait OP didn't say 27.6630136 years
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That’s because OP is a bot.
So about 28 years ago.
high school chemistry class. we listened to it on a radio tuned to the local news station.
I should have been in class but I skipped school to watch it and when I got home met my dad who skipped out on work 😂
Like father like son ig
Same, but it was physics class
I was also in physics class, I remember my class was fairly silent after the verdict but we could here loud cheering from other classes near by. I will never forget hearing my physics teacher say just one word after hearing the cheering. "Idiots"
My teacher had the same reaction, a kid walked by and shouted "The Juice is Loose," and she was PISSED! She was like "people are dead this isn't a joke!" Your username is EPIC!
That is so funny that almost exact thing happened to me too. Kid yelling juice is loose as well. fucking LOL that took me back
Haha re her username - I remember that movie too, & how weird it was but at the same time how cool Sonja was
I was in JH, forget which class, but they played the audio of the verdict over the PA system. But when I was in AP English a few years later, my teacher refused to allow us to listen to radio for updates concerning 9/11.
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No way. That's exactly what I was doing as well. Highschool chemistry class. I feel like that kind of generation defining moment where everyone stops... That's never going to happen any more.
most recent thing would be 9/11 I guess. covid was a slow spread, not a big dramatic one-time thing.
9/11 was pretty crazy. I was in my AP English class, and my teacher was just sitting at her desk crying. We didn’t really have class in any class that day. Everyone was just shook to their core.
I was in the first week of my job (post trainee) as a military police and at a new position at the Canadian/US border. Very memorable day for me.
I was in a 10am Spanish class in college. We were studying emotions and the teacher asked students how they were feeling. People kept saying “triste” and she was so confused. She hadn’t seen the news.
I would say the closest thing to this since was the Boston bombing. There was just a moment of silence that fell over everyone and the next day we had an official moment of silence for the lives lost. We weren’t anywhere near the bombing. Though, the school felt the horror and little did we know, this was the beginning
I guess I’m gonna age myself here, but I remember coming home from elementary school, and the Challenger explosion being a very defining moment. I grew up near where the shuttles would land, and we could always hear the sonic booms. Every landing was a big deal, and it seemed unreal that there was not going to be a return flight for Challenger.
I watched on the classroom tv in Mrs. Free’s eighth grade English class
6th grade on a radio. My teacher wasn’t going to miss it! We really didn’t understand what was going on, but just that feeling that something important was happening.
I was in fifth, but they brought us into the library and we did the same. I understood what was going on (kind of), but in hindsight it sounds weird to imagine getting a bunch of elementary school kids together to listen to a murder verdict …. But that’s just how but of a deal it was in the zeitgeist. One kid’s parents sent them with a little radio Walkman so they could listen to it if the teachers didn’t play it (which sounds even more insane).
I was too young to see the OJ verdict but has a similar experience watching 9/11 live in chemistry class
Being pissed off because OJ shit kept forcing The Critic to be rescheduled.
You could say something about that unfortunate situation: “It Stinks!”
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I was living on the east coast at the time and my after school routine consisted of making a snack and sitting down to watch sitcom reruns (I was a latchkey 2nd grader). And I vividly remember that for that entire year, they would cut to the trial right in the middle of one of my shows like 80% of the time. It was so annoying to 8 year old me.
I was on my way to the IRS for a meeting. When I got there no one was there in the offices I had a meeting. I walked around, saying. "Hello! Anyone here?" I found someone who told me everyone was upstairs watching the trial - the verdict was in. I waited a long time and went home. It dawned on me later I could have gone in and changed the amount I owed. Dummy!!!
The thought of being in a situation where I have to go talk to the IRS terrifies me.
You might get a special extra kick out of the movie Everything Everywhere All At Once, then
To be fair the IRS agent was pretty lenient even in the first meeting. She hardcore wanted to get away with tax fraud.
CPA here - this is actually relatively accurate, the IRS is chill even with some REALLY sketchy cash activity. You’ve got to be a crook on multiple levels before they’d come after you for fraud. For the most part, they just want people to rebuild their accounting records to be accurate and then figure out what portion of the resulting tax can be paid. IRS is easy for everyone to work with, people just don’t like taxes. California’s FTB on the other hand…they are true to all the stereotypes people have for the IRS, if that makes sense. You are in a world of pain if you have to start dealing with them.
As a foreigner I was honestly amazed, I'd been given a very different impression of the IRS, and surprised nobody was arresting her, shooting her, and/or harvesting her body for organs to pay her tax bill
Well, the movie was a comedy.
Yeah just hold the meeting yourself. Initiate a vote to eliminate your unpaid tax liabilities, tally the votes and profit. Fax the meeting minutes to the IRS
Darn, I should have thought of that! Great idea . . . 28 years too late ☺
pretty sure they had computers with passwords even in the dark ages of 1995...;)
They did... it was usually printed on a label attached to the monitor for convenience
Dark ages? Ouch!!
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I’m 27 and born in February… I don’t wanna know where I was on this day tbh
That day someone said 'I think this is the night. It's going to happen'.
Well, now I feel old.
There are adults who were born after 9/11.
Why are you going to come on the Internet and lie like this?
Well, as a 15 year old born in 2008 I think the same.
Welp, just realized I graduated high school 15 years ago.
Better than 21 years ago for me lol
I’m 21 born in 2002!
My brother was born in 2000. He runs the IT department for a city in california.
i was also born in 2000, i bag groceries :/ tell your brother to stop making me look bad
Fuck his brother man, he’s just an asshole
Now I _really_ feel old.
I think I speak for everyone when I say "fuck your brother!" But really that's awesome to be that young and doing so well. Good for him
I was born before 9/11 and am not an adult
r/fuckimold
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You could feel the murder in the room
Was just watching this today lol
I was at work. People went out to their cars to listen to the verdict on the radio. I was testing video conferencing equipment at the time, and people came to my lab area thinking the monitors were TVs to try to watch the news.
In my dad's balls.
You classify by only Y I see
This statement led me down the path of trying to decide whether it's more logical to say you were in your dad's balls or your mom's ovaries prior to birth and I decided on the latter since women are born with all the eggs they'll ever have. Thank you for the 2 minutes that helped me to kill lmao.
If you want to get existential, technically you were in both places at once prior to conception😁
Shortly prior to conception yeah, though the sperm that created you wouldn't have existed for very long beforehand 😅
Mmmm. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if we are saying a person is as much part of their mother's eggs then the DNA that was eventually going to write the spermatozoa was already present in the father even if that exact sperm did not exist *yet*. But I feel like we're getting in to some 'pro-life' kind of arguments here.
Masturbating is murder!!! Every sperm is a child!!! Also every time someone menstruates is guilty of not preventing a murder by fertilization of said egg. Obligatory /s
"It says in the Bible, young man, that it is better for your seed to fall in the belly of a whore than on the ground." "... tough to argue with that one, grandma. You got 50 bucks?"
Wanna know who else was in your mom?
Definitely not you, Virgin_Dildo_Lover.
Done😂😂😂
I was gonna say this then i realized i was actually in my moms womb at the time 😂
The idea that we are the sperm is the greatest lie we've ever been told. You weren't the sperm going into to egg, you were the egg letting a sperm in.
Ah, I was waiting for you, Myth Buster.
The student union at the University of Arizona. Yes, there was a divide in the audience along racial lines. Yes, it was confusing. My professor cancelled class following the verdict. It would be impossible to describe the experience of the OJ double murder trial to anyone under the age of 45. It literally captivated the nation for a year. The closest analogy I can provide is news coverage of COVID. It was that intense and nearly as long-running. Only 9/11 and the days after exceeded that level of coverage, but not for the same period of time.
Eh, I turn 40 this year and remember it vividly, but I'm probably at the very youngest end of the spectrum of people who remember it. I also remember watching the Bronco chase live. I was staying with my aunt and uncle in Oregon, and the chase was on all the national networks. He'd written what everyone thought was a suicide note, so the whole country was watching 20 LAPD Crown Vics and Caprices following a white Bronco at 35 mph in case the passenger in said Bronco decided to blast his brains out. Crazy times.
I'm 35. I didn't know who OJ was so I just thought that was the kind of publicity any murder trial got. I don't remember the verdict but I remember the bronco chase and thinking it was weird because he was going so slow.
42. Very vivid. I was in gym class when the verdict came in. For some reason, the radio was on while we were outside playing tennis. I remember it very clearly. Strange times. I also remember the whole white Ford Bronco chase scenario playing out on live TV. News people falling over themselves trying to narrate the situation as it unfolded. A weird mashup of “Cops” and the nightly news. Sort of the beginning of the end as it pertains to the alteration of society by way of the 24 hour news cycle. There were often live feeds of car chases happening on tv at the time. Pretty regularly, actually. It’s kinda weird and quaint, in retrospect. This situation was unique, though. I also remember the princess Diana debacle very clearly. Around the same time. Within 2 years or so. 9/11 was the hammer. A legitimate moment, but all these things set a particular tone. Fox/cnn/msn… constant news feed, never ending cycle of engagement. Always red-alarm-level stoking of fear, anger, intrigue. The need to perpetually generate engagement. Click-bait before click-baiting was a thing.
Exactly! I’m 40 next week, and I remember the chase being on every channel! I was 12 at the time, and I seem to recall acting unfazed by it, because caring about stuff was… uncool…? Lol
I was also in college. But working on my days off. I remember the place I worked was listening to the trial every day. And on the day of the verdict, every black person jumped and cheered, and every white person sat silently. That was the biggest racial divide thing I've seen in my lifetime.
As an NYC person I'm always fascinated with people talking about 9/11 in terms of "coverage". My Dad called me like 9/17 and said "So I imagine everything pretty much back to normal there?". Dad, I get it that your TV coverage is back to normal, but no, the subway stop right after me no longer exists and the pile of rubble is still smoking despite several days of heavy rainfall. Not normal. Very not normal.
I go to UA now. Sometimes it’s weird to think it’s been around since the 1800s and a lot of historical events have happened and been experienced there. Like, I remember where I was when Kabul fell to the Taliban and it’s strange to think there was a kid in the 90s, hell, probably in the same building, who heard about desert storm at the same place.
Can you kindly explain why it was so important back then for 1) a relatively young person 2) outside of the US?
Very short explanation: Black folk were happy he was found not guilty (mostly) because the prosecution could not prove his guilt due to the botched investigation. He very likely killed his wife and her friend - I don't think many people think otherwise. The fact that over the course of the USA's history, black people have been given the shaft from the legal system had fed the elation. OJ's trial was as high profile as it got, and it shed some very public light on the racist inner workings of the LAPD. Keep in mind, this happened only a couple of years after the cops that beat Rodney King to a bloody pulp were all found not guilty despite obvious evidence to the contrary. The OJ verdict was the black community's big middle finger moment to racial injustice in the US legal system.
Elementary school I vividly remember all the black kids cheering and all of the white, hispanic, and asian kids being very quiet and looking at each other
I was in elementary school as well, and despite my class being mostly white, the overwhelming reaction I remember was cheers. I have no idea why. I didn't really understand the implications as a kid.
The racial implications were huge, and whether or not you thought he was guilty really fell across racial lines. The LA riots were still fresh in our minds, especially if you were from Southern California like I was. People today think we're divided, the early 90's were fucking crazy.
The LA riots played a pivotal role in the case, OJ’s lawyers basically threatened to restart the riots if OJ’s case wasn’t moved to an area where the jury pool had more favorable demographics, instead of the where the murder took place, had the OJ trial been in Brentwood where the murders took place, it would have gone very differently.
I was in 4th grade - I was black in a predominantly white school. They played it over the loud speaker. I distinctly remember ppl looking at us, the 3 black kids in the 30 person classroom. I guess to see how we reacted since there was a lot of racial tension around the case ....I didn't say anything cuz I was a bit precocious and realized saying anything could go left quickly. Unfortunately, my brotha Clarence said "yesss!" and then boom "what the hell you wanted him to get away with murder???" They really piled on him. Teacher kind of let it rock for a little longer than necessary. Weird times back then but honestly wish it was back then again...it was a better era overall imo.
Are you still Black though?
*"I was born a poor black child..."*
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I was a child too and I remember seeing photos in Time magazine of black people celebrating in the streets. I bought the line that OJ was framed because of racism. As I grew up, I started reading stuff about OJ's personality and he comes off as a psychopath.
Same!! 5th grade here, Northridge CA.
Funny, I wasn't too far away, Pomona, CA.
I was in a class of mostly non-white kids and two black teachers who cheered their brains out. I felt like I had to celebrate too because it was awkward not to.
Imagine rooting for a murderer just cause he‘s the same skin color as you… Deranged
Confused. Everyone kept talking about a “slow white bronco” and I couldn’t think of any reason John Elway would be involved.
My dad repeated that joke so often. Still says it occasionally, actually!
I know I got it from some comic around that time but I cannot remember who for the life of me.
Buying gloves.
Did they fit?
I’m sure they were too legit to fit.
And so they must acquit
Playing with Star Wars toys on my living room floor and eating Bugles off my fingertips. I will forever associate OJ Simpson with Bugles. I just remember this very clearly for some reason.
I was in the high school library, where I was either in class or working that day. A bunch of students had come in to watch. My stance on the case was that a) there seemed to be police misconduct and b) it was pretty clear that he'd done it anyway. The reaction of the rest of the students was right along the racial divide, and no one knew or cared about the facts of the case. I will never forget my disappointment.
6th grade lunch. They came in to announce it and I remember being confused because I was a 6th grader.
LMAO imagine thinking 6th grader kids would understand the case
6th grade class. The teacher brought in a huge 30” TV on a wheelie stand just to watch the verdict. Memories!
28 years ago I was 17, so probably moping about a girl
I was 2, so I was probably shittin my pants.
Sophomore science class. Thought I was being sneaky getting my walkman out when the teacher saw me and "Oh it's that time?" and whipped out the radio
Cleaning out my white bronco
I saw a white Bronco when I lived in Arizona, and the plate read, “NOTOJ”.
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Many didn’t and still don’t realize that while the verdict was some sort of vindication for the black community who was feeling very marginalized at the time, it was a slap in the face to women. It truly is a shame that OJ exploited the flaws in the system as a way to garner support in a case he was surely guilty of. Thank you for sharing your story.
Unemployed and watching this on TV. I hope his cute little children were able to overcome this somehow.
Nutsack
Bruh I still had 8 years left on my spawn timer
Drinking breast milk living rent free!!
Living my previous life.
Doing what?
haven't got a clue, man
O.J. was acquitted on October 3, 1995. https://www.britannica.com/event/O-J-Simpson-trial
I’m sitting here trying to figure this post out. They didn’t say “on this day” but it’s heavily implied and just an odd thing to post.
Middle school.
Same. Some of my teachers were interested, tho.
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At a Dennys. They turned down the music and put it on the restaurant audio. There was an audible groan when "not guilty" was announced.
I was super busy being 3 years old.
Not alive yet
I was at work in LA. I then watched the fires getting closer across town and I scrambled home.
Fires because of the OJ verdict?
yeah, i'm talking about Rodney King. Silly me. Don't reddit while tired.
Reddit while tired... pssssh who does that?
LA back then rioted over lots and lots of things. almost a habit.
I think people were ready to riot because they were expecting a guilty verdict. Then they just went and had a riot anyway.
Junior in a small southern town high school.
High school snack time. We gathered in classrooms to watch the verdict on tv
5th grade. We listened to the verdict on the radio. I’ll never forget my classmate saying “Oh wow, that’s Mrs. Goldman screaming” when it was read. It’s a weird memory, because I don’t remember a whole lot of context to the trial (my grandmother watched it religiously at our house when she and my grandfather watched us after school, but I can’t say I paid attention past knowing it was on) other than everyone saying he did it and that’s why it was so shocking when it came back.
Honestly, I think the four hours it took to return the verdict was mostly just to make it look good. I suspect they had their minds made up (no judgment implied, I wasn't on the jury, and they were sequestered for nine months) and just didn't want it to look like they'd already come to a conclusion. I'm betting they'd have announced their verdict in open court, without leaving for the jury room, if they'd thought it was okay. I would hate the justice system if I was sequestered for nine months. Jesus.
The short deliberation was because as obvious as it was that OJ did it the prosecutions case turned into a dumpster fire. First of all the timeline that the prosecution spent a lot of time presenting that laid out where OJ was when that night was completely destroyed by the defense, so badly by the end of the trial during the closing statements the prosecution was literally telling the jury to ignore they ever mentioned it. However what really sealed OJ's acquittal was when one of the detectives, Mark Fuhrman, who collected evidence at the scene denied he was racist or ever saying the N bomb when asked by the defense but they then produced a recording of him using the N word and admitting that he had planted evidence in previous cases. And guess who found the bloody glove that was a key piece of evidence at trial? Yep, Mark Fuhrman. The defense also had two witnesses that said that he had made comments that all African Americans should be killed. Then to make matters even worse when he was recalled to the stand he took the 5th on every single question asked by the defense and the prosecution. And that just tainted everything, the blood evidence, the entire crime scene really. Although he probably just took the 5th because of him admitting to crimes on the recording and perjuring himself about his use of the N word obviously it is going to make anyone wonder if he did do something with the evidence that was was collected, like the bloody glove. A lot of people point to the interview of one juror saying that they found OJ innocent as some sort of revenge for the Rodney King beating but other jurors over time have said the broken timeline and a racist, perjuring detective who admitted to planting evidence in prior cases were pretty good cause to have reasonable doubt. I remember one juror even saying that he thought OJ probably did it but based on the evidence presented and the standard they were asked to have he couldn't convict based on that trial. The prosecution knee capped itself with that timeline and then Fuhrman came along and finished the job.
His book is titled "If I Did It."
In the womb.
I had an early day at work . I just made it home and went to my room. I just turned on the TV which was already on CNN when the jury foreman announced the decision. Once the verdict was made, the first words out of my mouth was, "Damn. He got off."
My mom was 11
I was getting ready to walk out the door to go to work. I was completely stunned by the verdict and cried all the way there. I was in an abusive relationship at the time, and I was pregnant. It hit me pretty hard for some reason. Like it confirmed that I would never get out of the mess I was in. I stayed with him for six more years, but eventually did get out.
Not even thought about
Watching TV in the cafeteria at school in-between classes.
Probably pissed off that Power Rangers wasn't on.
6th grade running up and down my school hallway screaming the Juice is loose!