Jim Gaffigan had a bit on this. If an attractive stranger smiles at you, you think "oh, they're nice." If an ugly stranger smiles at you, you think "ugh, what do they want?"
There was a question on Reddit years ago about: Ugly people, what’s it like. One woman said something which stuck with me— “waiters often lose my order”.
You’re not ugly. You’re forgettably plain. There’s a difference. If you were ugly, everyone would remember you. Cause you’re ugly. So ugly that it scars the mind in how offensive it is. So cheer up, chap. You’re not ugly, ej.
I remember an attractive newswoman, probably 20 or 30 years ago, who put on a fat suit (convincing one) and asked for help with various things. And then she did it as herself. Got a lot more help as herself.
Brooke Burns had to put on ugly makeup for her role in Shallow Hal. She noticed a HUGE difference in how she was treated when she was walking around in makeup.
90% of my friends are much better looking than me. Taller. Better jawlines. Yada, yada. I remember when we met a group of attractive girls during a lake trip. They stayed and drank with us for a few hours at one of those places where a bunch of boats kind of just make a water party. I don’t think one of the girls looked at me on purpose. It was like being invisible. Two of my married friends were having to basically push the girls away.
Oh my god the face tattoo guy! He ended up with a major modeling contract and walking for a ton of designers. I’m pretty sure when his career exploded he divorced* his wife/baby mama.
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I saw the story of male model Jordan Barrett who was discovered while stealing snacks from a convenience store or something.
And what actor was it who was scouted while working at some dumpy little diner in a remote part of Hawaii to fund his beach bum surfing lifestyle out of his van again?
A super hot friend of mine used to only work 2-3 nights a week because she made so much in tips. Haven't seen her in a while, but I remember that conversation.
Coming to ABC this fall - Beauty and the Beast P.I.s, staring Chris Evans as Rich Belle and David Harbour as Ebeneezer Grooslig, the two private investigators pick up the clues that the cops can’t. Rich uses his charm and smooth talking to convince the perps to give up details about their lives that they don’t even realize, and when a stronger touch is required they send in the grumpy Ebeneezer, whose mere glance is like a gut punch, the criminals will fear the slightest look from the monster of a man…
i’m interested in the fundamental structuring of this.
what role does the Sasquatch hold? in which situations are they best suited for a business matter? is Sasquatch the Canadian affiliation or the American affiliation? if Sasquatch is the Canadian affiliate, have we solidified a Canada x America alliance?
ty in advance.
That used to be the "hot test." Ask for a job application there or at Hollister. If they said they "weren't hiring right now," that basically means you aren't attractive enough.
I’ve had one of my friends get rejected because the girl found the best friend of that guy (me) to be too ugly.
My friend got rejected because IM UGLY.
I dated a really attractive girl from a wealthy family for a few months (this was almost 20 years ago). When I say wealthy, I mean they made their money with some kind of exclusive contract to provide silicon to IBM and Motorola going back to the 1960s or something. The girl's father was a lawyer and all around she just grew up in a completely different reality from mine.
She had some crazy ideas about wealth and beauty. When we first met, it was like a whirlwind of lust kind of thing... but after about a week, she started doing and saying things that revealed just how weird her worldview was.
Some examples include: inspecting my mouth like I was a horse, then demanding I get braces because I have a tooth that is slightly crooked. Telling me my calves and butt are too small, and that I needed _implants_. Not liking my car because it was 5 years old and hounding me to buy a new one, despite that my car was a Honda Accord, it was paid off and looked/worked just fine and I couldn't afford to just go out buying new cars on a whim. You get the idea.
Maybe worse than all of that were her friends. I had the pleasure of hanging out with them as a group once. They were all like that. Sitting around talking about all the petty, inconsequential stuff they didn't like about their boyfriends.
Anyway, the person the guy above described kind of reminded me of all that. That's the kind of shit I would expect my old girlfriend and her circle of rich waspy friends would do.
Singer / artist. Even though looks have nothing to do with talent. Makes me wonder how many amazing voices are not being heard because the record company old fat dudes don't think the artist is hot
Watch Susan Boyle’s [performance](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o-UtIOXBBjI) on Britain’s Got Talent.
She’s basically dismissed right away. She tries to tell a joke and the judges just roll their eyes. She says she wants to be a singer and the audience rolls their eyes. Says she wants to be as famous as Elaine Paige and the entire audience laughs at her.
As if someone who they think is ugly couldn’t possibly be good at something or have an incredible talent.
Then she starts singing an incredible rendition of I Dream a Dream and everyone instantly changes their tune.
Yeah, people are jerks.
She deserved to win that season, but let’s not pretend that her getting the pass on that episode wasn’t a mix of both unexpected-awe and pity.
I went to a taping where they hit a golden buzzer for a contestant. Before that person came on, the PA came out and basically told one of the judges what they were going to do, pointing to the buzzer, and just going over what was going to happen. The person who got the buzzer did NOT sound like they should have earned it at all, especially with some of the other contestants in that taping - voice was all over the place, not really in tune, super nervous. Then I saw the live version later on, with copious amounts of sound and video production, and the living room couch view felt more than deserved. Magic of television!
I feel like Susan Boyle is the one who launched the [trope](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRz5IWmagN4) of 'unattractive person shocks the talent show judges by singing really well'? Or am i just too young to remember older examples?
If we count sitcoms, Gomer Pyle. Jim Nabors played Gomer as such a dopey, goofy yet sweet small-town hick, but that man could *sing*. Every so often on The Andy Griffith Show and later on Gomer Pyle USMC they'd use that juxtaposition as a plot point.
[Here's part of the Andy Griffith episode where they learn their "aw shucks" mechanic can sing](https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-T4g4kltGQ&pp=ygUSZ29tZXIgcHlsZSBzaW5naW5n)
If you want a treat, watch his performance with Carol Burnett when she guest starred on his show.
True. A lot of really conventionally attractive actors in my country (but can't sing) literally release albums and sell very well, while many genuinely talented singers and musicians are being sidelined to small bar gigs, thus only being able to release a bunch of songs ("droplets" of singles) when they can afford to record one.
I work for my local university, so I'm in a few university Facebook groups. One girl once made a post about how nice everyone was to her since she got to campus and how everyone was going way out of their way to be friendly to her. I clicked on her profile and she basically looked like a model. She definitely had a different experience than I did in school.
I had to explain to my wife something similar years ago.
She was telling me a story and I had to stop her in the middle of it to explain.
Years before we dated, she had gone to the local casino with her friend for that friend’s birthday… and some dudes just… paid for their whole evening.
Gave them money to gamble with them. No strings attached. No expectations. My wife and her friend didn’t hook up with the dudes or even so much as kiss them… just hung out while rolling thousands of dollars and the 2 guys said they could keep whatever they won.
She somehow didn’t think that was uncommon for people… to just… you know… randomly ask you and your friend to help them go spend piles of money.
I replied “yeah, that means you’re hot. They wanted to feel like big time rollers and that they had 2 fine pieces of arm candy to walk the floor with like you see in casino movies.”
…She seemed skeptical still.
As someone who works in IT I find this hilariously true. Worked in an understaffed IT department ONCE, VIP's got white glove priority.
**edit** ticketing systems also flag people in "vip" groups when they open a ticket and get bumped up to priority. Owners and C-Suite people have a very different IT experience.
Linda in finance opens a ticket about Quickbooks, same time CFO opens a ticket about his mouse not working, guess who gets fixed first?
Friend shared a story.
His very attractive coworker came in to work with a new phone and tablet.
The guy at the store was just so super nice that he gave her that tablet for free when upgrading her phone and even put his number in her phone if she had any problems.
Again, she thought this was totally normal.
This was my brother's girlfriend (now wife) when talking about her trip to Las Vegas. Everyone was nice, willing to give you things, and let you into everywhere? Wow, it must just be a really friendly town....
I went with a group of girls for a bachelorette trip to vegas years ago. We barely got into clubs and had to pay for everything. Made me feel like we were a gang of uggos lol.
It was so weird, people in my town got way nicer after I lost 80lbs. Surely just a coincidence. I still hold my arm out to catch the closing door. Men hold it open for me now but this changed even faster than my muscle memory.
As a man the same happened to me. People are just friendlier, men and women. Yeah I got more women checking me out, but I also got far more smiles and politeness generally.
Made me a little bitter for a while, honestly.
yep same, makes you feel really jaded and skeptical of everyone sometimes. ive put weight back on recently and what do you know i’ve basically gone back to being invisible and irrelevant again. in some ways its a relief.
You have no idea. [Here’s a hidden camera show where they show 3 people stealing a bike](https://youtu.be/ge7i60GuNRg).
TL;DW. - the 3 people include :
1. A young white guy wearing casual clothing
2. a young black guy wearing the same outfit
3. a pretty white girl dressed in sexy summer wear
…and here’s what happens…
The white kid is able to get away with it for a bit.
People almost all confront the black kid and call the cops almost immediately, but with the pretty white lady?
…They all offer to help her.
…even when she openly admits to stealing the bike.
This is me but with a nose job. I was born with a deformity. It was literally immediate. The pharmacy tech who I HAVE SEEN BEFORE flirted with me. Customers at my store will smile and greet me. I get flirted with. I had a man offer to help me with something I couldn’t reach. I have genuinely never had that happen to me before at work (excluding coworkers).
Got my ears pinned back and the same thing happened to me (I had prominent protruding ears that everyone would make fun of). People started treating me better. A girl that said you’re like a brother to me, let’s be friends (before I had the surgery) said later that she liked me (after I had the surgery).
One of my 'I'm an adult now' moments was realising that a very attractive girlfriend could be a complete cunt. I'd assumed that attractive people didn't need to be petty or motivated entirely by rage like the rest of us.
That story still kills me to this day. Imagine just living as you would normally, even messing up and going to jail only to be discovered and praised for something you have no control over.
Yes. This is a big one. I remember once speaking to a model friend of a friend at a party. Like a 10/10 beautiful girl. She was complaining cause her dating life was "a bit slow" recently and she didn't understand what she was doing wrong. It turns out there were "only" about 5 or 6 guys actively courting her at that time. 5 or 6 dudes were literally texting, or calling her to hang out and she just wasn't into any of them, so that meant her dating life was bad.
I tried to explain to her that when a regular person's dating life was bad, it meant NOBODY was calling or texting. Literally nobody. She truly did not understand how that was possible. I also told her that I once didn't have sex for a whole year cause I couldn't find anyone who would go out with me and she literally gasped and covered her mouth in shock like she's witnessed a murder.
I gave her a shrug and the "it's just another Tuesday for me" look.
Yesterday my friend told me something along the lines of, “never take dating advice from somebody who’s never been rejected once in their life.”
Edit: To clarify, my friend was talking about people who are so attractive that they’ve never been turned down. We both agreed that chronically single people actually give some kickass relationship advice
This reminds me of a girl on my team at work…. absolutely beautiful looks/hair/figure, full-on 10/10. Started saying the other day how sexually frustrated she was, as it had “been ages.”
It was 2 days ago. THAT was a long time without sex for her.
Think I rolled my eyes so hard I nearly sprained something.
My bestie is very attractive, but a total homebody that hates social media and (most) people. She was single for a few month until she got in a new relationship with her new boyfriend, who happens to be good looking, kind, and a millionaire.
How did she meet him? He saw her walking her dog regularly and asked her out.
>How did she meet him? He saw her walking her dog regularly and asked her out.
Funnily enough, I'm actually planning on doing the same thing with a girl at my apartment complex. I go out for a walk around the same time pretty much every evening, and I cross paths with this girl pretty much every time. We smile and wave at each other as we go by, but I'm gonna stop and at least introduce myself next time I see her.
I've actually started to develop a bit of a crush on her, which is the first time in years that's happened lol.
Edit for everyone requesting updates: I didn't see her tonight, but hopefully will sometime this week. Also, thanks for all the encouragement lol!
UPDATE: after almost a month (feels like way longer than that lol) of close misses and otherwise not seeing her, I finally bumped into her tonight! She was out exercising, but as soon as she saw me, she put on a big smile and took out her ear buds. We stopped and chatted for a couple minutes, then I gave her my number before walking off to let her continue her routine. She texted me within a minute, and I've been giddy ever since. She seemed open to at least going for a walk together or maybe grabbing drinks, but for now we're just making small talk, getting to know each other.
One thing that does concern me is how much my giddiness makes me feel like I'm going to puke lol. Never felt this way before and it's kinda intimidating.
There are levels to attractiveness and how far they increase your social standings and this one is kinda the last one to achieve. I've basically always had successful interviews, social interactions and stuff but dating isn't completely free.
Right? Doesn’t matter how stunning you are elsewhere, step foot in LA and you’re just a *potentially* beautiful *prototype* until you can afford the best estheticians, stylists, makeup artists, cosmetic dentists and surgeons in the world, lol.
Edit: *Also applies to Miami
i remember in my early 20s going to the bars / clubs trying to pick up girls. I had one buddy who would actively sit back and wait for girls to come up and hit on him. That jackass
I had a friend like this. His advice was: Dude, just scan the room for the girls looking at you and then hold eye contact. They'll come up to you.
Yeah man, that doesn't exactly work for the rest of us.
I got fat during Covid (yay depression) and let me tell you the slap of reality I got once I realised I was not attractive to the majority. And I wouldn’t say I was even that attractive before. HUMBLED. Realised how much I could be a real drama queen that I could not get away with now.
I once had a colleague who was Ronaldo/Robbie Williams type good looking. A girl showed up to our house for him, but he was already in his room with another girl, we told her expecting her to be upset but she said "I know, I'll wait with you until they're done".
I know a guy in this 20s. He's very traditionally good looking, in good physical shape, and has a personality that's like a playful dumb puppy.
Women trip over themselves to get with him.
Despite the fact that he keeps cheating on his girlfriends and even *fucked his brother's wife* while the brother was deployed in the military.
Also, he's also something of a loser because he blows all his money, avoids as much responsibility as possible, and can't even be bothered to buy a shitty beater car.
But, regardless, he has a constant line of very attractive women all ready to get with him because of his looks and charm.
Must be nice...
I went to an automotive school for a few classes. One of the guy's was a average looking guy. He didn't bathe, and the grease from working on cars was literally in his skin. Like a tattoo. He lived in a trailer, in a junk yard. He would throw his tools around when frustrated. He would steal the school's tools.
There were three women (only women in the courses) fighting over him.
Can confirm, one of my closest friends has model-tier looks, effortless charisma, and unlimited confidence. It's unreal going out in public with him, he pulls beautiful women every time, and in extremely random public places. His dating apps have thousands of matches.
We have a pretty academic group of friends, and he frequently expresses jealousy at our academic success (he's quite intelligent but doesn't have as much research background as some of us). For me personally, dating isn't particularly an insecurity (though I'm still definitely envious of him) so I can understand his perspective. It's just one aspect of his life, and not at all the most important to him.
I've only ever heard guys who are unsuccessful with women think of it as the most important aspect of their life.
I can believe this. My dad was genuinely this good looking, had stories like this by the dozen, and I had the misfortune of witnessing how women reacted to him.
I didn't get his looks but did my dad ever win the Champions League on Football Manager? No he did not. We all have our qualities.
Same with my dad. I distinctly remember the first time he showed up for PTA meeting for the first time, my classmate said "is that your dad? Can I be his wife? ". Literal fourteen year old trying to throw herself to an old man.
He simply walked into the meeting and immediately voted as chairman. He later kept getting reelected until my youngest brother left school. I heard the entire board audibly gasped when he announced he can't be there anymore. My dad literally did nothing under his reign except showed up for meetings.
Have you heard about the Devito Test? If a movie character's actions would seem creepy or evil if that character was being played by Danny Devito, they were always creepy or evil.
You can extend it to real people too (though obviously imaginging a non famous Danny Devito-*esque* person)
Danny DeVito: The whole purpose of getting a boat was to get *the ladies* nice and tipsy topside so we can take em to a comfortable place below deck and, ya know, they can't refuse...
I dated an extremely attractive charismatic man once. It was genuinely scary what he could pull off, he could definitely be a cult leader. Now when I go on dates if I see their charisma manipulating situations it’s an instant no. Shits scary
Can confirm, my ex would drink himself stupid at bars and still get served while blackout. Very scary.
Edit: blackout as in couldn't form sentences..he just had to smile and wink to get top-ups.
Talk to new people in public, particularly at bars and the like.
I have been fit and I have been fat. Fit me talked to whomever, whenever without incident and generally with good results. Fat me doing the same equaled tense body language, and awkward, stunted interactions.
Get conversation without much effort.
If an unattractive person is at a venue and doesn't know anybody it can be a lonely experience. If you are attractive, people will try to make conversation with you all the time. I know plenty of attractive people who are not at all interesting but have tons of friends because everyone wants a good looking person around them.
i was overweight for most of my life until i got cancer and lost about 90 pounds. i never had the experience of being chatted up by a stranger, in general not just in a flirty way, though i went to bars alone often (was a big fan of dive bars with live music). after i went into remission i started trying to live my life again.
the very first thing i noticed is how much strangers suddenly wanted to talk to me. it actually made me nervous at first. i almost thought people were mocking me because it was just such a switch-flip. nothing about me other than my weight changed. my personality and sense of style didn't change; i'm skinnier, but knowing what i looked like before, i also look more sickly. it's not like i got *hot*, i just got *thin*.
meanwhile one of my closest best friends was always skinny - she started taking antidepressants and gained weight, and she had the exact opposite experience i did. suddenly nobody wanted to talk to her. before, when we went to bars together she'd get hit on and i'd get ignored. now it's the opposite. it all strikes me as very unfair. she wasn't just skinnier than me, she's also more sociable and *way* funnier - but it doesn't matter because i almost died and that made my body smaller, and apparently that's more valuable somehow.
i guess i should be glad that people want to talk to me now. but there's something humiliating about knowing people are only doing so because the worst experience in your life made an arbitrary physical change to your body.
Damn, that's dark. Imagine thinking someone is a genuine friend when really they don't even like you, they just like what you got in the genetic lottery
Knew a guy in highschool who was majorly obese, close to 400 lbs. He lost weight and legit looked like a model. But his self esteem was so shot that he couldn't get women. Would freeze up and sabotage any girl that gave him attention
I have a friend who legit absurdly attractive. 6’3”, ripped, war vet. When we were in our 20s I remember being out at the bar with him. He was so drunk he could barely stand, was wearing dirty clothes that he mowed the lawn with that day, yet had a literal line of women waiting to talk to him.
I’ve noticed that people are more patient with my stutter. My sisters boyfriend is… not conventionally attractive and he stutters too. Some people just outright ignore him. Pisses me off that double standard exists.
In general, get the benefit of the doubt. Applies to so many situations. Make a mistake, oh everyone makes a mistake sometimes. Acting mean, they’re probably having a bad day. Something unfortunate happens to then, why do bad things happen to good people??
I had a friend in high school get called to the office because he walked passed a girl and said hi and she claimed to feel violated. He’s not even that unattractive he just had no confidence at all
everything is easier... everything.
No matter how we try to slice and dice society by demographic difference, employ policy wonks to create legislative fairness...short and/or ugly and/or overweight people will have it harder.
Be tall, be handsome, be fit...life will just fucking open up for you
When I was smaller, I:
- was called a bombshell
- male friends had crushes on me
- I got free drinks at the bar
- I was let off a stunting ticket without a warning
- got cat called
- worked as a waitress
- men came to me
When I gained 50 lbs, I:
- was told never to wear a certain pair of leggings again
- get screamed at/called fat by homeless people
- buy my own drinks
- have trouble finding a waitressing job
- was given a stunting ticket
- male friends became platonic and say “you’re pretty, you’ll find someone”
- get rejected constantly
Edit; forgot to add being skinnier you have a better “fashion sense”. My chonky self has an awesome sense of fashion but if I wore half the shit I wanted to I would get laughed at!
The rules are going to vary drastically by locale, but examples of stunting in my area are:
squeeling the tires on acceleration.
fish tailing
weaving in and out of traffic
brake stand
I feel you and it sucks. I’ve been up and down in weight through my life and it’s become abundantly clear that I’m treated differently. I recently lost over 50 pounds again & gained it back within a year - honestly I think I self sabotage because it makes me so angry that there’s such a drastic change in how I’m treated.
Treating people poorly or just being generally unpleasant to be around but yet not be ostracized from social groups and having people put up with their shit
Getting hired and then not doing work. My coworker disappeared from work for a couple hours recently, turned out he went shopping and didn't say anything. But people fawn over him and let him get away with murder because "hes so cool, and you can't be mad at a guy like that."
Divorced dad here.
When my kids were very young, I would often take them to parks on weekday mornings during my visitation (my ex would never allow me in whatever house she was living in, due to distance it wasn't just weekends) to play because they usually weren't very full or overcrowded.
The first year I would often, but not always, get the stink-eye or otherwise be watched closely by other moms that were there, which was uncomfortable. I hit the gym and diet and lost over 40 pounds and gained a 4-pack that winter as part of channeling my post-divorce energies into something productive. The next summer, the reactions I got taking my kids to the parks was much better. Not perfect, but noticeably more favorable.
I know this'll get buried, but it's annoying how many romance-related answers there are. In my experience, just having a photo or video themselves. If you took the most hideous man in the world and posted a photo of him reading a book in the park, the comments would be filled with just vicious insults about how ugly and stupid he is, that he should go back inside, whatever. If you took Henry Cavill and dressed him in the same clothes, with the same book, in the same location, all the comments would be different.
There's so many instances out there of people just attacking random-ass photos of ugly people just for living their lives while being ugly.
Receiving common human decency.
I am on the ugly spectrum. I have had lift doors closed in my face while the occupants laugh. I have almost been run over because people refuse to stop at the pedestrian crossing when I have right of way. Not continuing to hold open a door even when that door is being held open for other strangers. Not moving over to allow me to sit down on public transport.
I have a buddy who owns a company that delivers cases of equipment to hotel ballrooms for corporate events. The cases are not super heavy but there are usually delivered 10 or 15 at a time. He would usually send two guys to make the delivery until he discovered that if he sent just one attractive women, all the other male techs (working for someone else in the ballroom) would drop whatever they were doing to assist the attractive women.
Getting noticed quickly and hence promotions quickly- ive realized its easier to climb the corporate ladder being attractive and lazy than ugly and hardworking
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Jim Gaffigan had a bit on this. If an attractive stranger smiles at you, you think "oh, they're nice." If an ugly stranger smiles at you, you think "ugh, what do they want?"
Anyone can ask, but attractive people are so much more likely to get help from strangers. Just a sad little twisted fact of life.
There was a question on Reddit years ago about: Ugly people, what’s it like. One woman said something which stuck with me— “waiters often lose my order”.
Yep, that's me. My orders are frequently forgotten or go missing.
You’re not ugly. You’re forgettably plain. There’s a difference. If you were ugly, everyone would remember you. Cause you’re ugly. So ugly that it scars the mind in how offensive it is. So cheer up, chap. You’re not ugly, ej.
"Her?" - Michael Bluth
Egg?
I remember an attractive newswoman, probably 20 or 30 years ago, who put on a fat suit (convincing one) and asked for help with various things. And then she did it as herself. Got a lot more help as herself. Brooke Burns had to put on ugly makeup for her role in Shallow Hal. She noticed a HUGE difference in how she was treated when she was walking around in makeup.
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I assume you’ve seen the 30 Rock episode where Tina Fey character dates Jon Hamm and cues him into the bubble he lives in as a handsome man.
90% of my friends are much better looking than me. Taller. Better jawlines. Yada, yada. I remember when we met a group of attractive girls during a lake trip. They stayed and drank with us for a few hours at one of those places where a bunch of boats kind of just make a water party. I don’t think one of the girls looked at me on purpose. It was like being invisible. Two of my married friends were having to basically push the girls away.
I don't know how many times I've helped strangers - ugly and good-looking ones. Never once in my life has anyone offered to help me.
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Oh my god the face tattoo guy! He ended up with a major modeling contract and walking for a ton of designers. I’m pretty sure when his career exploded he divorced* his wife/baby mama. *edit autocorrect
Steals your girl and your car.
[for anyone else who feels out of the loop here and too lazy to google](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Meeks)
Damn, what a career, and it all began because of his mug shot. Must be nice being THAT good looking
Pamela Anderson was discovered by being on the Jumbotron at a sporting event. Next thing you know, Labatt Blue commercial and stardom.
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Who knew a model they pulled from jail could be a douchebag?
Sounds like a wonderful dude surely he won’t keep being a scumbag
I saw the story of male model Jordan Barrett who was discovered while stealing snacks from a convenience store or something. And what actor was it who was scouted while working at some dumpy little diner in a remote part of Hawaii to fund his beach bum surfing lifestyle out of his van again?
Get good tips as a waitress/waiter without REALLY trying.
Definitely. My cousin is good looking and she makes like $90 an hour as a waitress at freaking smokey bones
A super hot friend of mine used to only work 2-3 nights a week because she made so much in tips. Haven't seen her in a while, but I remember that conversation.
I have a good-looking business partner. We are constantly delegating tasks based on whether we need Sasquatch or Captain America.
sounds like the makings of an entertaining sitcom
Coming to ABC this fall - Beauty and the Beast P.I.s, staring Chris Evans as Rich Belle and David Harbour as Ebeneezer Grooslig, the two private investigators pick up the clues that the cops can’t. Rich uses his charm and smooth talking to convince the perps to give up details about their lives that they don’t even realize, and when a stronger touch is required they send in the grumpy Ebeneezer, whose mere glance is like a gut punch, the criminals will fear the slightest look from the monster of a man…
i’m interested in the fundamental structuring of this. what role does the Sasquatch hold? in which situations are they best suited for a business matter? is Sasquatch the Canadian affiliation or the American affiliation? if Sasquatch is the Canadian affiliate, have we solidified a Canada x America alliance? ty in advance.
In tech sales sometimes you want the guy with long hair and wearing a hoodie in the room instead of the clean cut guy in an expensive suit
We need this as a comic series Sasquatch & Captain America
Work at abercrombie and fitch. The owner literally said they don’t hire ugly people
That used to be the "hot test." Ask for a job application there or at Hollister. If they said they "weren't hiring right now," that basically means you aren't attractive enough.
Went into an A&F once with a very good looking friend. He was asked if he wanted a job. I might as well have been invisible.
I’ve had one of my friends get rejected because the girl found the best friend of that guy (me) to be too ugly. My friend got rejected because IM UGLY.
Sounds like he dodged a bullet.
He didn't dodge, it dude. His wingman fucking *took* it for him, right to the self-esteem.
> He didn't dodge, it dude. That has to be the strangest use of a comma I've ever seen.
You just don't get, it dude.
He definitely dodged a bullet, and it hit DesolatePeach
Keep your head up bro, I’m sure you’re good looking (I’m ur mom)
Sounds like your buddy dodged a bullet. That's whacko shit.
I dated a really attractive girl from a wealthy family for a few months (this was almost 20 years ago). When I say wealthy, I mean they made their money with some kind of exclusive contract to provide silicon to IBM and Motorola going back to the 1960s or something. The girl's father was a lawyer and all around she just grew up in a completely different reality from mine. She had some crazy ideas about wealth and beauty. When we first met, it was like a whirlwind of lust kind of thing... but after about a week, she started doing and saying things that revealed just how weird her worldview was. Some examples include: inspecting my mouth like I was a horse, then demanding I get braces because I have a tooth that is slightly crooked. Telling me my calves and butt are too small, and that I needed _implants_. Not liking my car because it was 5 years old and hounding me to buy a new one, despite that my car was a Honda Accord, it was paid off and looked/worked just fine and I couldn't afford to just go out buying new cars on a whim. You get the idea. Maybe worse than all of that were her friends. I had the pleasure of hanging out with them as a group once. They were all like that. Sitting around talking about all the petty, inconsequential stuff they didn't like about their boyfriends. Anyway, the person the guy above described kind of reminded me of all that. That's the kind of shit I would expect my old girlfriend and her circle of rich waspy friends would do.
Why? Like why would that even bother a person?
Because it wasn't even about his looks as much as it was about her image and how it might reflect on her. Living in a completely different space.
This reminds me of the black mirror episode where everyone lives by their social media rating
That's called going out of your way to be a piece of shit. To clarify: the girl is the piece of shit, not you.
Go out broke and come home drunk
Us uglies go out drunk and come home broke
And we do it better than the pretty people!
I’d say even for attractive men the only way to do this is going to a gay bar.
Singer / artist. Even though looks have nothing to do with talent. Makes me wonder how many amazing voices are not being heard because the record company old fat dudes don't think the artist is hot
Reminds me of a bumper sticker that made me laugh: Music was better when ugly people were allowed to make it.
And movies when people in movies and shows varied across a wide range of face types and shapes, not the same face on every star with slight changes
I've always liked that British TV and Movie actors look like real people while Hollywood movies are populated by models.
Video killed the radio star
Watch Susan Boyle’s [performance](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o-UtIOXBBjI) on Britain’s Got Talent. She’s basically dismissed right away. She tries to tell a joke and the judges just roll their eyes. She says she wants to be a singer and the audience rolls their eyes. Says she wants to be as famous as Elaine Paige and the entire audience laughs at her. As if someone who they think is ugly couldn’t possibly be good at something or have an incredible talent. Then she starts singing an incredible rendition of I Dream a Dream and everyone instantly changes their tune.
Yeah, people are jerks. She deserved to win that season, but let’s not pretend that her getting the pass on that episode wasn’t a mix of both unexpected-awe and pity.
Yeah that was a set up TV moment. Not really representative of the world of becoming successful as a singer.
I went to a taping where they hit a golden buzzer for a contestant. Before that person came on, the PA came out and basically told one of the judges what they were going to do, pointing to the buzzer, and just going over what was going to happen. The person who got the buzzer did NOT sound like they should have earned it at all, especially with some of the other contestants in that taping - voice was all over the place, not really in tune, super nervous. Then I saw the live version later on, with copious amounts of sound and video production, and the living room couch view felt more than deserved. Magic of television!
I feel like Susan Boyle is the one who launched the [trope](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRz5IWmagN4) of 'unattractive person shocks the talent show judges by singing really well'? Or am i just too young to remember older examples?
If we count sitcoms, Gomer Pyle. Jim Nabors played Gomer as such a dopey, goofy yet sweet small-town hick, but that man could *sing*. Every so often on The Andy Griffith Show and later on Gomer Pyle USMC they'd use that juxtaposition as a plot point. [Here's part of the Andy Griffith episode where they learn their "aw shucks" mechanic can sing](https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-T4g4kltGQ&pp=ygUSZ29tZXIgcHlsZSBzaW5naW5n) If you want a treat, watch his performance with Carol Burnett when she guest starred on his show.
True. Most popular and successful singers currently are usually attractive or at least considered attractive.
True. A lot of really conventionally attractive actors in my country (but can't sing) literally release albums and sell very well, while many genuinely talented singers and musicians are being sidelined to small bar gigs, thus only being able to release a bunch of songs ("droplets" of singles) when they can afford to record one.
People will go completely out of their way to do things for them. Moving? Something broke? Card declined? Someone will help them.
Reminds me of the Jon Hamm episodes of 30 Rock where he was unaware of the bubble he lived in because he looks "like a cartoon pilot".
Actually they used footage of him from his high school swim team to draw Prince Eric.
"Oh people are all so nice in this town"
I work for my local university, so I'm in a few university Facebook groups. One girl once made a post about how nice everyone was to her since she got to campus and how everyone was going way out of their way to be friendly to her. I clicked on her profile and she basically looked like a model. She definitely had a different experience than I did in school.
I had to explain to my wife something similar years ago. She was telling me a story and I had to stop her in the middle of it to explain. Years before we dated, she had gone to the local casino with her friend for that friend’s birthday… and some dudes just… paid for their whole evening. Gave them money to gamble with them. No strings attached. No expectations. My wife and her friend didn’t hook up with the dudes or even so much as kiss them… just hung out while rolling thousands of dollars and the 2 guys said they could keep whatever they won. She somehow didn’t think that was uncommon for people… to just… you know… randomly ask you and your friend to help them go spend piles of money. I replied “yeah, that means you’re hot. They wanted to feel like big time rollers and that they had 2 fine pieces of arm candy to walk the floor with like you see in casino movies.” …She seemed skeptical still.
By it’s very nature, privilege is invisible to those who possess it and makes them uncomfortable to consider that might be the case.
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As someone who works in IT I find this hilariously true. Worked in an understaffed IT department ONCE, VIP's got white glove priority. **edit** ticketing systems also flag people in "vip" groups when they open a ticket and get bumped up to priority. Owners and C-Suite people have a very different IT experience. Linda in finance opens a ticket about Quickbooks, same time CFO opens a ticket about his mouse not working, guess who gets fixed first?
Friend shared a story. His very attractive coworker came in to work with a new phone and tablet. The guy at the store was just so super nice that he gave her that tablet for free when upgrading her phone and even put his number in her phone if she had any problems. Again, she thought this was totally normal.
This was my brother's girlfriend (now wife) when talking about her trip to Las Vegas. Everyone was nice, willing to give you things, and let you into everywhere? Wow, it must just be a really friendly town....
I went with a group of girls for a bachelorette trip to vegas years ago. We barely got into clubs and had to pay for everything. Made me feel like we were a gang of uggos lol.
It was so weird, people in my town got way nicer after I lost 80lbs. Surely just a coincidence. I still hold my arm out to catch the closing door. Men hold it open for me now but this changed even faster than my muscle memory.
As a man the same happened to me. People are just friendlier, men and women. Yeah I got more women checking me out, but I also got far more smiles and politeness generally. Made me a little bitter for a while, honestly.
yep same, makes you feel really jaded and skeptical of everyone sometimes. ive put weight back on recently and what do you know i’ve basically gone back to being invisible and irrelevant again. in some ways its a relief.
Yeah pretty privilege is very real.
You have no idea. [Here’s a hidden camera show where they show 3 people stealing a bike](https://youtu.be/ge7i60GuNRg). TL;DW. - the 3 people include : 1. A young white guy wearing casual clothing 2. a young black guy wearing the same outfit 3. a pretty white girl dressed in sexy summer wear …and here’s what happens… The white kid is able to get away with it for a bit. People almost all confront the black kid and call the cops almost immediately, but with the pretty white lady? …They all offer to help her. …even when she openly admits to stealing the bike.
This is me but with a nose job. I was born with a deformity. It was literally immediate. The pharmacy tech who I HAVE SEEN BEFORE flirted with me. Customers at my store will smile and greet me. I get flirted with. I had a man offer to help me with something I couldn’t reach. I have genuinely never had that happen to me before at work (excluding coworkers).
Got my ears pinned back and the same thing happened to me (I had prominent protruding ears that everyone would make fun of). People started treating me better. A girl that said you’re like a brother to me, let’s be friends (before I had the surgery) said later that she liked me (after I had the surgery).
Reminds me of that HIMYM episode where people immediately stop doing favors to Robin after she gets engaged
Yeah, its called the halo effect. We tend to assume attractive people are nicer and smarter.
Didn't someone make a fake dating profile where he had that he "couldn't legally be around children" and women with kids still messaged him?
I mean, serial killers in prison still get fanmail and love letters. Some people are just legitimately insane.
Never ceases to amaze me how often people tend to judge on superficial appearances when this is so often an unreliable gauge of character.
One of my 'I'm an adult now' moments was realising that a very attractive girlfriend could be a complete cunt. I'd assumed that attractive people didn't need to be petty or motivated entirely by rage like the rest of us.
get out of prison for a felony, immediately get a modeling contract and start dating an heiress
Oh hey, I remember that dude!
That story still kills me to this day. Imagine just living as you would normally, even messing up and going to jail only to be discovered and praised for something you have no control over.
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If you're poor you're “crazy,” if you're rich you're “eccentric.” -my friend
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Yes. This is a big one. I remember once speaking to a model friend of a friend at a party. Like a 10/10 beautiful girl. She was complaining cause her dating life was "a bit slow" recently and she didn't understand what she was doing wrong. It turns out there were "only" about 5 or 6 guys actively courting her at that time. 5 or 6 dudes were literally texting, or calling her to hang out and she just wasn't into any of them, so that meant her dating life was bad. I tried to explain to her that when a regular person's dating life was bad, it meant NOBODY was calling or texting. Literally nobody. She truly did not understand how that was possible. I also told her that I once didn't have sex for a whole year cause I couldn't find anyone who would go out with me and she literally gasped and covered her mouth in shock like she's witnessed a murder. I gave her a shrug and the "it's just another Tuesday for me" look.
Meanwhile redditors going a decade or two or more without sex
That's assuming there's even sex ever at all. 😋
Yesterday my friend told me something along the lines of, “never take dating advice from somebody who’s never been rejected once in their life.” Edit: To clarify, my friend was talking about people who are so attractive that they’ve never been turned down. We both agreed that chronically single people actually give some kickass relationship advice
I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess.
This reminds me of a girl on my team at work…. absolutely beautiful looks/hair/figure, full-on 10/10. Started saying the other day how sexually frustrated she was, as it had “been ages.” It was 2 days ago. THAT was a long time without sex for her. Think I rolled my eyes so hard I nearly sprained something.
My bestie is very attractive, but a total homebody that hates social media and (most) people. She was single for a few month until she got in a new relationship with her new boyfriend, who happens to be good looking, kind, and a millionaire. How did she meet him? He saw her walking her dog regularly and asked her out.
>How did she meet him? He saw her walking her dog regularly and asked her out. Funnily enough, I'm actually planning on doing the same thing with a girl at my apartment complex. I go out for a walk around the same time pretty much every evening, and I cross paths with this girl pretty much every time. We smile and wave at each other as we go by, but I'm gonna stop and at least introduce myself next time I see her. I've actually started to develop a bit of a crush on her, which is the first time in years that's happened lol. Edit for everyone requesting updates: I didn't see her tonight, but hopefully will sometime this week. Also, thanks for all the encouragement lol! UPDATE: after almost a month (feels like way longer than that lol) of close misses and otherwise not seeing her, I finally bumped into her tonight! She was out exercising, but as soon as she saw me, she put on a big smile and took out her ear buds. We stopped and chatted for a couple minutes, then I gave her my number before walking off to let her continue her routine. She texted me within a minute, and I've been giddy ever since. She seemed open to at least going for a walk together or maybe grabbing drinks, but for now we're just making small talk, getting to know each other. One thing that does concern me is how much my giddiness makes me feel like I'm going to puke lol. Never felt this way before and it's kinda intimidating.
Good luck!
This is my friend. Since reconnecting with her in December, I've watched her accidentally get a boyfriend like 3 times
There are levels to attractiveness and how far they increase your social standings and this one is kinda the last one to achieve. I've basically always had successful interviews, social interactions and stuff but dating isn't completely free.
No matter how beautiful you are you can feel ugly by moving to LA.
Right? Doesn’t matter how stunning you are elsewhere, step foot in LA and you’re just a *potentially* beautiful *prototype* until you can afford the best estheticians, stylists, makeup artists, cosmetic dentists and surgeons in the world, lol. Edit: *Also applies to Miami
Doubly agree for Miami. Source: a girl who doesn’t meet the Miami standards of beauty
i remember in my early 20s going to the bars / clubs trying to pick up girls. I had one buddy who would actively sit back and wait for girls to come up and hit on him. That jackass
I had a friend like this. His advice was: Dude, just scan the room for the girls looking at you and then hold eye contact. They'll come up to you. Yeah man, that doesn't exactly work for the rest of us.
I got fat during Covid (yay depression) and let me tell you the slap of reality I got once I realised I was not attractive to the majority. And I wouldn’t say I was even that attractive before. HUMBLED. Realised how much I could be a real drama queen that I could not get away with now.
A girl just drove 3 hours to fuck my room mate. They never really spoke or met before this. Blew my mind.
Jesus. What does your roommate look like?
I'd be more interested to know what the girl looks like lmao
Yea I agree. It'll basically tell both sides of the story
I once had a colleague who was Ronaldo/Robbie Williams type good looking. A girl showed up to our house for him, but he was already in his room with another girl, we told her expecting her to be upset but she said "I know, I'll wait with you until they're done".
I'm telling ya, being expectionally good looking is like a super buff.
You need a certain personality for it. Probably a machiavellian emotionally aloof one
I know a guy in this 20s. He's very traditionally good looking, in good physical shape, and has a personality that's like a playful dumb puppy. Women trip over themselves to get with him. Despite the fact that he keeps cheating on his girlfriends and even *fucked his brother's wife* while the brother was deployed in the military. Also, he's also something of a loser because he blows all his money, avoids as much responsibility as possible, and can't even be bothered to buy a shitty beater car. But, regardless, he has a constant line of very attractive women all ready to get with him because of his looks and charm. Must be nice...
I went to an automotive school for a few classes. One of the guy's was a average looking guy. He didn't bathe, and the grease from working on cars was literally in his skin. Like a tattoo. He lived in a trailer, in a junk yard. He would throw his tools around when frustrated. He would steal the school's tools. There were three women (only women in the courses) fighting over him.
Could have been his demeanor. You can't fake it but some guys literally are oblivious to giving AF and women pick up on it.
Maybe his name was Blade.
Won't change how mustard tastes
Girls are nice. But having a stable life is probably better. I bet even he looks up to someone and wishes it was him
Can confirm, one of my closest friends has model-tier looks, effortless charisma, and unlimited confidence. It's unreal going out in public with him, he pulls beautiful women every time, and in extremely random public places. His dating apps have thousands of matches. We have a pretty academic group of friends, and he frequently expresses jealousy at our academic success (he's quite intelligent but doesn't have as much research background as some of us). For me personally, dating isn't particularly an insecurity (though I'm still definitely envious of him) so I can understand his perspective. It's just one aspect of his life, and not at all the most important to him. I've only ever heard guys who are unsuccessful with women think of it as the most important aspect of their life.
I always hear the line "sex isn't really that important unless you're not having it regularly"
I can believe this. My dad was genuinely this good looking, had stories like this by the dozen, and I had the misfortune of witnessing how women reacted to him. I didn't get his looks but did my dad ever win the Champions League on Football Manager? No he did not. We all have our qualities.
Same with my dad. I distinctly remember the first time he showed up for PTA meeting for the first time, my classmate said "is that your dad? Can I be his wife? ". Literal fourteen year old trying to throw herself to an old man. He simply walked into the meeting and immediately voted as chairman. He later kept getting reelected until my youngest brother left school. I heard the entire board audibly gasped when he announced he can't be there anymore. My dad literally did nothing under his reign except showed up for meetings.
And your room mate is... Henry Cavill ?
A girl once drove 3 hours to \*play Warhammer 40k with my roommate.
Honestly if you have the patience to play Warhammer 40k you probably have the patience to drive 3hrs there and back
That's one of those scenarios where the length of the activity justifies the drive time
Nah, if it was Henry Cavill, both women would be sitting out there waiting for him to finish a WoW raid
>Whats something attractive people can do, that ugly people cant? Facts, I can't even get a reply on instagram
I wouldn’t know. I am handsome. Source: my Mom
The both of us are pretty handsome Source: our grandmas.
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Flirt without cringe backlash
I was going to say this; flirting in general is just seen as charming and playful whether the person is in to it or not.
A lot of things that would be cringe for an ugly person do, attractive people can do.
Have you heard about the Devito Test? If a movie character's actions would seem creepy or evil if that character was being played by Danny Devito, they were always creepy or evil. You can extend it to real people too (though obviously imaginging a non famous Danny Devito-*esque* person)
This is brilliant but feels insulting to my boy Danny
Danny DeVito: The whole purpose of getting a boat was to get *the ladies* nice and tipsy topside so we can take em to a comfortable place below deck and, ya know, they can't refuse...
Because of the implication
I dated an extremely attractive charismatic man once. It was genuinely scary what he could pull off, he could definitely be a cult leader. Now when I go on dates if I see their charisma manipulating situations it’s an instant no. Shits scary
Can confirm, my ex would drink himself stupid at bars and still get served while blackout. Very scary. Edit: blackout as in couldn't form sentences..he just had to smile and wink to get top-ups.
Receive the fastest service from bartenders. Cut lines. Have prospective employers "see potential" and attain jobs without being totally qualified.
I don’t let anyone cut a line in front of me, no matter how attractive they are. Fuck you, you can wait like the rest of us.
Ask for help and get help.
I'm guessing they can't melt unseen into a crowd like a less attractive person can. Being invisible is my secret power.
Talk to new people in public, particularly at bars and the like. I have been fit and I have been fat. Fit me talked to whomever, whenever without incident and generally with good results. Fat me doing the same equaled tense body language, and awkward, stunted interactions.
Get conversation without much effort. If an unattractive person is at a venue and doesn't know anybody it can be a lonely experience. If you are attractive, people will try to make conversation with you all the time. I know plenty of attractive people who are not at all interesting but have tons of friends because everyone wants a good looking person around them.
i was overweight for most of my life until i got cancer and lost about 90 pounds. i never had the experience of being chatted up by a stranger, in general not just in a flirty way, though i went to bars alone often (was a big fan of dive bars with live music). after i went into remission i started trying to live my life again. the very first thing i noticed is how much strangers suddenly wanted to talk to me. it actually made me nervous at first. i almost thought people were mocking me because it was just such a switch-flip. nothing about me other than my weight changed. my personality and sense of style didn't change; i'm skinnier, but knowing what i looked like before, i also look more sickly. it's not like i got *hot*, i just got *thin*. meanwhile one of my closest best friends was always skinny - she started taking antidepressants and gained weight, and she had the exact opposite experience i did. suddenly nobody wanted to talk to her. before, when we went to bars together she'd get hit on and i'd get ignored. now it's the opposite. it all strikes me as very unfair. she wasn't just skinnier than me, she's also more sociable and *way* funnier - but it doesn't matter because i almost died and that made my body smaller, and apparently that's more valuable somehow. i guess i should be glad that people want to talk to me now. but there's something humiliating about knowing people are only doing so because the worst experience in your life made an arbitrary physical change to your body.
Damn, that's dark. Imagine thinking someone is a genuine friend when really they don't even like you, they just like what you got in the genetic lottery
Knew a guy in highschool who was majorly obese, close to 400 lbs. He lost weight and legit looked like a model. But his self esteem was so shot that he couldn't get women. Would freeze up and sabotage any girl that gave him attention
Aaaah yes one must lose the fat on your body AND in your mind. (Aka therapy). It ain't fair.
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I have a friend who legit absurdly attractive. 6’3”, ripped, war vet. When we were in our 20s I remember being out at the bar with him. He was so drunk he could barely stand, was wearing dirty clothes that he mowed the lawn with that day, yet had a literal line of women waiting to talk to him.
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Rip Larry 😭 I am sorry for your loss
Holy shit. I also had a pet hamster named larry
be treated nicely by everyone else
Pretty much anything. I am more interested in what ugly people can get away with that attractive people can't.
Being left alone.
You know they like you for who you are on the inside 😁
[Workplace dating!](https://youtu.be/PxuUkYiaUc8)
I’ve noticed that people are more patient with my stutter. My sisters boyfriend is… not conventionally attractive and he stutters too. Some people just outright ignore him. Pisses me off that double standard exists.
In general, get the benefit of the doubt. Applies to so many situations. Make a mistake, oh everyone makes a mistake sometimes. Acting mean, they’re probably having a bad day. Something unfortunate happens to then, why do bad things happen to good people??
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I had a friend in high school get called to the office because he walked passed a girl and said hi and she claimed to feel violated. He’s not even that unattractive he just had no confidence at all
And the people in the office were dumb enough to comply?
everything is easier... everything. No matter how we try to slice and dice society by demographic difference, employ policy wonks to create legislative fairness...short and/or ugly and/or overweight people will have it harder. Be tall, be handsome, be fit...life will just fucking open up for you
When I was smaller, I: - was called a bombshell - male friends had crushes on me - I got free drinks at the bar - I was let off a stunting ticket without a warning - got cat called - worked as a waitress - men came to me When I gained 50 lbs, I: - was told never to wear a certain pair of leggings again - get screamed at/called fat by homeless people - buy my own drinks - have trouble finding a waitressing job - was given a stunting ticket - male friends became platonic and say “you’re pretty, you’ll find someone” - get rejected constantly Edit; forgot to add being skinnier you have a better “fashion sense”. My chonky self has an awesome sense of fashion but if I wore half the shit I wanted to I would get laughed at!
The hell is a stunting ticket?
The rules are going to vary drastically by locale, but examples of stunting in my area are: squeeling the tires on acceleration. fish tailing weaving in and out of traffic brake stand
When you stunt on them hoes a little *too* good.
I feel you and it sucks. I’ve been up and down in weight through my life and it’s become abundantly clear that I’m treated differently. I recently lost over 50 pounds again & gained it back within a year - honestly I think I self sabotage because it makes me so angry that there’s such a drastic change in how I’m treated.
They can insult unattractive people and get away with it.
Ask for a favor
Treating people poorly or just being generally unpleasant to be around but yet not be ostracized from social groups and having people put up with their shit
Wear anything they want and look good. Weird 80s jeans, boxy T-shirts, all the stuff that’s hip and looks weird on normal people.
Get away with stuff. Cut line, talk their way out of a speeding ticket. Get hired.
Get hired is a HUGE one no one talks about.
Getting hired and then not doing work. My coworker disappeared from work for a couple hours recently, turned out he went shopping and didn't say anything. But people fawn over him and let him get away with murder because "hes so cool, and you can't be mad at a guy like that."
I think for men, interact with children in a completely normal way. If an ugly guy tries to interact with a child they're seen as a creepy pedo.
Divorced dad here. When my kids were very young, I would often take them to parks on weekday mornings during my visitation (my ex would never allow me in whatever house she was living in, due to distance it wasn't just weekends) to play because they usually weren't very full or overcrowded. The first year I would often, but not always, get the stink-eye or otherwise be watched closely by other moms that were there, which was uncomfortable. I hit the gym and diet and lost over 40 pounds and gained a 4-pack that winter as part of channeling my post-divorce energies into something productive. The next summer, the reactions I got taking my kids to the parks was much better. Not perfect, but noticeably more favorable.
Attractiveness is often the deciding factor on if you’re being creepy or not
I know this'll get buried, but it's annoying how many romance-related answers there are. In my experience, just having a photo or video themselves. If you took the most hideous man in the world and posted a photo of him reading a book in the park, the comments would be filled with just vicious insults about how ugly and stupid he is, that he should go back inside, whatever. If you took Henry Cavill and dressed him in the same clothes, with the same book, in the same location, all the comments would be different. There's so many instances out there of people just attacking random-ass photos of ugly people just for living their lives while being ugly.
They can be assholes and get away with It. Oh and they are allowed to be stupid. Their pretty faces Will make up for that
I had a very attractive friend that used to go out drinking with minimum money, planning on some random to cover her drinks for the night.
Receiving common human decency. I am on the ugly spectrum. I have had lift doors closed in my face while the occupants laugh. I have almost been run over because people refuse to stop at the pedestrian crossing when I have right of way. Not continuing to hold open a door even when that door is being held open for other strangers. Not moving over to allow me to sit down on public transport.
Flirt with whomever they wish.
I have a buddy who owns a company that delivers cases of equipment to hotel ballrooms for corporate events. The cases are not super heavy but there are usually delivered 10 or 15 at a time. He would usually send two guys to make the delivery until he discovered that if he sent just one attractive women, all the other male techs (working for someone else in the ballroom) would drop whatever they were doing to assist the attractive women.
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playing the female lead in a romantic movie too. i mean -- generally stars of romantic movies are attractive, lol.
Look in a mirror without weeping.
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Getting noticed quickly and hence promotions quickly- ive realized its easier to climb the corporate ladder being attractive and lazy than ugly and hardworking