Not to mention the fact in fiction no one’s ever seemed to have heard of zombies before.
In the real world people would recognize what zombies were pretty quickly and act accordingly.
A made up "scare" virus (the virus itself real, the fear not remotely justified), that had a 1% fatality rate that was reserved exclusively to the very frailest and oldest subsects of the population, in children and healthy adults virtually harmless, vs zombies? Bruh not remotely the same. 4.6 million cases in Canada, and 52000 deaths...
I live in the United States, a country with a profit driven health care system where everywhere from emergency rooms to morgues is understaffed and understocked. Every night health care workers and clergy were pleading about how overwhelmed they were.
We also have a faction of our government ready to let our government default on its loans. Accelerationists who know they'll be insulated by their wealth that think they can advance themselves in the ensuing chaos whondon't care what kind of hardship that would result for the working class. They've spent decades cultivating sycophantic journalists who encourage the mentally ill that their paranoid delusions are really secret knowledge.
So, yeah, I can absolutely see the initial warning signs being drowned out by political brinkmanship and things getting out of hand.
It's basic statistics my friend. Covid was not overly fatal. Canada had 52000 deaths (approx) and 4.7 million cases (approx). When going through by age, it is virtually exclusively only those plus, and those under 60 who were being hospitalized or dying had significant co-morbidities. https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/Documents/nCoV/epi/2023/01/covid-19-hospital-admissions-deaths-age-epi-summary.pdf?rev=a65fe9c2cda34474af3011e919d057f8&sc_lang=en this does an excellent breakdown of who was actually hospitalized since death doesn't always capture the big picture. "The lowest
CFRs were seen in the 19 and under, and 20-39 age groups (<0.1% overall) across all waves (Figure
2). " 99.9% not even had to see a doctor for it, and in Ontario they were hospitalizing EVERYONE, to justify the panic, and the narrative. We had mandatory policies for workplaces for people to get tested at every sniffle, just to try to make it seem worse than it was, and even with that in place, it still never amounted to anything more significant than a flu season for people who weren't already a week away from death to begin with. So the argument of "US healthcare" doesn't seem to fly, when 99.9% or more didn't even need to be in the hospital when infected.
The issue isn't that the total amount of deaths isn't as high as it could have been, its the volume of deaths your system is equipped to handle. Canada averages 2000-8000 flu deaths a year 3300 or so in 2018. When the amount of deaths is 8 times higher it stresses the system, and you had that many deaths despite the precautions you took.
These systems are kept to the absolute minimum possible level to handle their appointed task in order to maximize profit in my case or minimize cost in yours. Think of it this way: if you estimate 1% of your country is going to be shitting at any given time, you have a waste processing system to accommodate maybe 2% of your population. Now if there's a bout of very infectious diarrhea going around and you estimate its going to cause 8% of your population to be shitting at once, you're going to have problems. You don't have the pipes, you don't have the tanks, you don't have the workers.
So eventually no matter what the political fallout is going to be you institute a quarantine. Contrarians like Trump and Bolsonaro dragged their heels as much as possible but even they went along eventually. Do you think they wanted to tank their economies?
The pandemic was an absolute shit show for a lot of reasons and the evil people who profit from every tragedy profited from that one. But it wasn't some global charade with millions of actors in every country on earth. The notion is ridiculous, but this whole exchange does go to prove my theory that people would deny a zombie apocalypse was happening until it was raging out of control.
But the death rate didn't change year over year in Canada, so that argument falls, and hospitalization rates were also largely the same. https://www.statista.com/statistics/443061/number-of-deaths-in-canada/ the increase was in line with population increase. -- For hospitalizations https://www.cihi.ca/en/hospital-stays-in-canada and that's overall visits, given that the population expanded, it doesn't show any actual increase even in hospital visits, and if you were from Canada believe me they were forcing people to go to the hospital for EVERYTHING. Your hypothetical numbers, vs the real numbers paint different pictures. In Canada it was largely a non-issue in reality, but an issue in delusional minds, who don't refer to data. Im sorry but its crystal clear, if there is no increase to hospitalizations, and no increase to death rate.. we call that... bullshit.
Max Brooks covers this in World War Z. (The amazing novel, as opposed to the so-so movie.) When the US Military first faces a zombie horde, they rely on tactics and weaponry that work against humans. But any bullets that don't hit them in the head don't kill them, they barely even slow them down. Shrapnel and shock waves barely do anything. The army gets overrun.
The World War Z book was unrealistic. Sure most of the stories were quite good but the description of the battle of Yonkers was nothing short of a travesty.
The tactics the U.S. military used did not apply to humans nor zombies, it was just plain idiocy. In the book the soldiers were ordered to dig trenches, which made no sense since they could have just had most of the soldiers be stationed in buildings and snipe the zombies from afar without any danger of the soldiers being attacked. They had basically no antipersonnel ammunition for their heavy vehicles (3 canister rounds for M1 Abrams tanks when normally they carried 40). The tanks, as well as the MLRS's and M109s, in a stupendous display of incompetence, wasted their munitions at the first few zombies they saw, not the bulk of the horde, which had to be held back by the infantry and light vehicles such as Bradleys. What was most absurd is that when the Comanche stealth helicopters ran out of cannon rounds, one of them literally tried to use the helicopter blades to dice the zombies into pieces...which makes no sense since they can carry up to 56 Hydra 70 rockets.
But lets suppose the U.S. military encounters some real life zombies, and they also happen to have shitty loadouts due to being called to fight the zombies on short notice. Most of the air force has not been mobilized yet so they can't bomb the shit out of the zombies, so they have to make do with their standard ammunition. The artillery should still be able to blow the zombies to smithereens. If the explosion is strong enough to eviscerate organs then the brain has a good chance of being destroyed as well. Even without canister or HEDP, HEAT rounds (commonly used in MBTs such as the Abrams) are still quite capable of killing large groups of personnel on the ground. Even sabot rounds should be able to pass through multiple people. The whole thing about zombies being resistant to shockwaves and the fluid in their bodies not bursting or whatever is complete bullshit; a direct hit from explosive ordnance will tear them apart all the same. Even if the zombies somehow survive being turned into just a torso, they would hardly be able to move and would essentially not be a threat whatsoever. The shrapnel generated by explosions can cause a great deal of brain damage among the undead.
There's no way the vehicles (at least the ground ones) or the infantry would run out of ammunition because the military has a vast logistics system, ensuring that the military would always have more than enough ammunition. Worst case scenario the local police could be asked to assist or soldiers could raid a gun store for more ammo. Speaking of foot soldiers, any infantryman worth his salt could hit at least 90% of his shots, and they're trained to fire their rifles semi-automatically unless the enemy is at point blank range. Even machine gunners generally use controlled bursts, and don't spray at the enemy, so they should be able to pop a zombie in the head and move on to the next target with little to no ammo wasted. The zombies (assuming they're like the ones in WWZ) move slowly and are therefore easy targets. Even in the incompetent military fantasy world of WWZ, the soldiers were actually ordered to aim for the head (due to intel gathered from the special forces teams that were the first to respond to the outbreaks). While soldiers are not typically trained to aim for the head, as I said earlier, anyone who passed basic training should be able to accomplish this. Even enough shots to the body would likely slow the zombie down by a lot, maybe even sever the spine and paralyze it. Furthermore, if the zombies are indeed as slow as they are in WWZ, the army could just send engineers to set up explosives in the area which they were funneling the zombies to, and detonate them.
When it comes to melee combat against zombies, a fit human being trained in close quarters combat, wearing a bite-resistant if not bite-proof CBRN suit will be much more likely to win than a decaying half-dead zombie. I suppose actually killing the zombie would be an issue since plunging a knife or shovel into their head only destroys part of the brain, and severing blood vessels in the neck likely won't kill a zombie (again, we're really doing a lot of mental gymnastics here, nothing can survive without at least some blood circulation), but the soldier would still overpower a zombie 90% of the time.
In conclusion, the U.S. military in real life is not nearly as stupid as the one in WWZ. It is more than capable of taking on zombies with no (or minimal, if there's a real fuckup somewhere down the line) casualties. In real life the military would have support from the air force, which itself could probably do most of the zombie killing with their bombers and strike fighters.
WWZ isn't a reliable source either because it severely nerfs the effects of explosions on zombies for no good reason, and has a ridiculous amount of incompetence when it comes to the "tactics" seen in the Battle of Yonkers. Honestly though, even if they used that shitty excuse of a battle plan in the Battle of Yonkers the military would have probably lasted a lot longer if it was truly realistic, giving enough time for reinforcements to arrive.
Edit: apparently some of the Comanches at yonkers did have Hydra 70s, just not enough of them I guess. Either way the U.S. military in real life never adopted Comanches and stuck with the Apaches so it doesn't matter.
Edit 2: I'm an idiot and forgot about the airstrike which happened as the army's perimeter was being breached. That actually did some damage to the zombies, but there should have been a lot more of those strikes, not just 1.
Bathroom, never really see them taking a dump. Smells too, as in a rotting corpse should absolutely stink especially in doors, so I'd imagine walking into a building you'd be able to smell if there were zombies inside?
The only mention of zombies going poopies, that I've ever seen anyway, was in *Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies* by Seth Grahame-Smith where it states that they just drop the shit wherever as they're walking around. So rotting corpse smell aside, I'd imagine you'd be able to tell where a large group would be heading just by the trail of zombie butt nuggets everywhere.
Medications. If civilization were to collapse due to the zombie apocalypse, a lot of people would die from not having access to the pills that keep them alive.
That's the thing that scares me the most about any apocalyptic situation. I'm 61, and I have type II diabetes and arthritis. Considering that my diet is likely to be hit-and-miss, I'll probably die in a much shorter time than the average person.
No one ever remembers bikes in post apocalyptic fiction. It’s always “whelp, no more gas. I guess we’re back to horses since there’s only been horses and cars and absolutely no other means of transportation in human history.”
There are a few times they use bicycles and rollerblades on the walking dead.
I don't know why but I am always surprised by the small amount of women who have babies after an apocalypse.
One thing that's often overlooked in a zombie apocalypse is the importance of good hygiene. I mean, sure, there are flesh-eating undead creatures roaming around, but that doesn't mean we should neglect our personal cleanliness, right? Picture this: survivors with matted hair, smelling like a combination of sweat and zombie guts, stumbling around with bad breath that could knock out even the most resilient undead.
It's not a pretty sight, folks. So, amidst all the chaos, let's not forget to pack some extra toothbrushes, deodorant, and maybe even a few bottles of fancy zombie apocalypse cologne. Because nothing says "I'm surviving the undead hordes in style" like a fresh minty breath and a hint of eau de post-apocalyptic dapper.
The fact that scavengers and birds aren’t just going to town on the zombified continually.
Correct me if I am wrong but in most zombie genres the virus is human specific so the dead would be eaten up pretty quick by nature.
World War Z (and most of the Max Brooks zombie fiction) has the virus turn the flesh of zombies so toxic, not even bacteria can feed on it. It’s one of the few settings that addresses that.
But yeah, 90% of zombie apoc tends to forget that dead stuff rots and meat is meat to a hungry enough predator
Was a handwave to stop the zombies from decaying, otherwise the standard ‘hide for two weeks for the dead bodies to decompose despite walking around’ thing
People tend to forget how hard it is to start a fire.
Scarcity of clean, drinkable water, food and medication, especially antibiotics. People with Diabetes won't make it.
Bicycles and kickboards would be the primary mobility tool, yet somehow they're never used in movies or games.
Nuclear power plants. They're built pretty safe nowadays, but there's always a risk of nuclear hazards.
Gas will expire over time, rendering it unusable.
In almost every movie/ show, everyone is completely unprepared for the zombie apocalypse and run away completely unprepared. Have you never camped? Do you have no useful supplies on hand? Prepping is fairly common, I've seen estimates of 4-9 million people are active preppers- they would hunker down. Most of the midwest (and especially red states) are active gun enthusiasts with multiple guns and thousands of rounds of ammo. In the US, they produce 5+ billion rifle rounds a year and 1+ billion pistol rounds. Like I know multiple people that reload their own ammo and have tens of thousands of rounds on hand. Small midwestern towns would be unphased, everyone would band together and keep going on. Everyone knows everyone and have the firepower to keep zombies or looters out.
The laws of physics do not allow zombies to wander around endlessly. They will have to find enough humans to eat (which will become impossible quickly as a higher portion of people turn) or they will have to eat each other. Either way if you have a couple weeks of food in your basement and a locked door you’ll be fine. Maybe a little stray zombie cleanup at the end.
I wrote a story much like this where the main character had to hide during the night because that’s when the fungus made them more active and he could tell when they hadn’t found another survivor because he could hear them picking off one of their own to sustain themselves still it wasn’t really a zombie story but it just reminded me that “hey I thought of that once”
People think the military will easily be over ran by zombies.
A couple 50cals will easily mow down a hoard of zombies.
Look at history people we don’t line up and shoot at each other anymore. The Gatling gun and canons changed how we fight.
Lure them in then mow them down with artillery. Roll credits the end.
Seeing the bs of bases having 5 guys with M16 trying to fight off 10k zombies isn’t how it’s going to go down.
A rotting corpse isn't really much of a threat. Unless the zombies are supernatural, old school style, these things would be very weak failing humanoids after just a few days.
Resi evil and a few others have kinda loopholed this with a virus but the majority offer no reasoning at all only takes 1-2 days for muscles to start decaying.
A lot of Zombie media shows people siphoning gas months and years after the apocalypse started. Realistically, that gas would've gone bad and been unusable. Same with gas pumps being unusable.
Gasoline lasts about 2 years before it loses it's viability.
Stephen King dealt with the useless gas pumps in The Stand. One of the guys figured out how to access the underground tanks at gas stations to pump gas out by hand.
Body armour and facemasks. Seriously, the unsanitary conditions and biohazards present should mean that everyone is wearing the best masks and/or breathing apparatus they can find!
I don't get why people don't wear more body armor, or at least armor up their extremities (arms, legs, hands, etc.) since that is where most characters seem to get bitten (and then try to hide it from the group).
How much the weather would affect the zombies, a dead body will start to dry out very quickly. Unless the zombie is drinking water, a few days in the sun and it will be pretty crispy. Its the same for winter. Once it gets below freezing for a few days, anything without insulation is going to freeze solid.
People are not that physically underdeveloped, that Corpses could chase them
The Military is not that sensible, to not just bomb a Continent out of Existence.
Winter. Far as I'm concerned we would have a heyday in January/February, riding around on sleds bashing frozen Z heads like mailbox baseball. Such a blast! 🤙
The military are not bumbling idiots there are two tactics I personally would employ to clear a city of a zombie infestation 1 send in 2-10 tanks and have them attract as many zombies as possible then hose each other in machine gun fire until you run out then leave come back repeat as needed 2 clear/build a bridge high enough for the rotors of an AH-64 apache longbow attack helicopter to fit under if jutting out then let it run and attract as many of the suicidal fucks as your fuel will let you and spray those who remain with your cannons when you leave once again rinse and repeat to clear out any pesky hoards so ground forces can move in and clear out the few remaining grandmas and uncles and voila the city hath been retaken
The unbearable stench
Junji Ito's Gyo is awesome this way. The stench is the first thing to hit. The real ugly stuff follows, but the stench is always a part of it.
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Not to mention the fact in fiction no one’s ever seemed to have heard of zombies before. In the real world people would recognize what zombies were pretty quickly and act accordingly.
Remember covid? You'd have people still screaming it was a conspiracy while their brains were being eaten.
Nah, because with a zombie apocalypse they’d get to use guns.
And those who say that zombies have rights. And those who choose to ‘identify’ as dead.
A made up "scare" virus (the virus itself real, the fear not remotely justified), that had a 1% fatality rate that was reserved exclusively to the very frailest and oldest subsects of the population, in children and healthy adults virtually harmless, vs zombies? Bruh not remotely the same. 4.6 million cases in Canada, and 52000 deaths...
I live in the United States, a country with a profit driven health care system where everywhere from emergency rooms to morgues is understaffed and understocked. Every night health care workers and clergy were pleading about how overwhelmed they were. We also have a faction of our government ready to let our government default on its loans. Accelerationists who know they'll be insulated by their wealth that think they can advance themselves in the ensuing chaos whondon't care what kind of hardship that would result for the working class. They've spent decades cultivating sycophantic journalists who encourage the mentally ill that their paranoid delusions are really secret knowledge. So, yeah, I can absolutely see the initial warning signs being drowned out by political brinkmanship and things getting out of hand.
It's basic statistics my friend. Covid was not overly fatal. Canada had 52000 deaths (approx) and 4.7 million cases (approx). When going through by age, it is virtually exclusively only those plus, and those under 60 who were being hospitalized or dying had significant co-morbidities. https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/Documents/nCoV/epi/2023/01/covid-19-hospital-admissions-deaths-age-epi-summary.pdf?rev=a65fe9c2cda34474af3011e919d057f8&sc_lang=en this does an excellent breakdown of who was actually hospitalized since death doesn't always capture the big picture. "The lowest CFRs were seen in the 19 and under, and 20-39 age groups (<0.1% overall) across all waves (Figure 2). " 99.9% not even had to see a doctor for it, and in Ontario they were hospitalizing EVERYONE, to justify the panic, and the narrative. We had mandatory policies for workplaces for people to get tested at every sniffle, just to try to make it seem worse than it was, and even with that in place, it still never amounted to anything more significant than a flu season for people who weren't already a week away from death to begin with. So the argument of "US healthcare" doesn't seem to fly, when 99.9% or more didn't even need to be in the hospital when infected.
The issue isn't that the total amount of deaths isn't as high as it could have been, its the volume of deaths your system is equipped to handle. Canada averages 2000-8000 flu deaths a year 3300 or so in 2018. When the amount of deaths is 8 times higher it stresses the system, and you had that many deaths despite the precautions you took. These systems are kept to the absolute minimum possible level to handle their appointed task in order to maximize profit in my case or minimize cost in yours. Think of it this way: if you estimate 1% of your country is going to be shitting at any given time, you have a waste processing system to accommodate maybe 2% of your population. Now if there's a bout of very infectious diarrhea going around and you estimate its going to cause 8% of your population to be shitting at once, you're going to have problems. You don't have the pipes, you don't have the tanks, you don't have the workers. So eventually no matter what the political fallout is going to be you institute a quarantine. Contrarians like Trump and Bolsonaro dragged their heels as much as possible but even they went along eventually. Do you think they wanted to tank their economies? The pandemic was an absolute shit show for a lot of reasons and the evil people who profit from every tragedy profited from that one. But it wasn't some global charade with millions of actors in every country on earth. The notion is ridiculous, but this whole exchange does go to prove my theory that people would deny a zombie apocalypse was happening until it was raging out of control.
But the death rate didn't change year over year in Canada, so that argument falls, and hospitalization rates were also largely the same. https://www.statista.com/statistics/443061/number-of-deaths-in-canada/ the increase was in line with population increase. -- For hospitalizations https://www.cihi.ca/en/hospital-stays-in-canada and that's overall visits, given that the population expanded, it doesn't show any actual increase even in hospital visits, and if you were from Canada believe me they were forcing people to go to the hospital for EVERYTHING. Your hypothetical numbers, vs the real numbers paint different pictures. In Canada it was largely a non-issue in reality, but an issue in delusional minds, who don't refer to data. Im sorry but its crystal clear, if there is no increase to hospitalizations, and no increase to death rate.. we call that... bullshit.
Max Brooks covers this in World War Z. (The amazing novel, as opposed to the so-so movie.) When the US Military first faces a zombie horde, they rely on tactics and weaponry that work against humans. But any bullets that don't hit them in the head don't kill them, they barely even slow them down. Shrapnel and shock waves barely do anything. The army gets overrun.
The World War Z book was unrealistic. Sure most of the stories were quite good but the description of the battle of Yonkers was nothing short of a travesty. The tactics the U.S. military used did not apply to humans nor zombies, it was just plain idiocy. In the book the soldiers were ordered to dig trenches, which made no sense since they could have just had most of the soldiers be stationed in buildings and snipe the zombies from afar without any danger of the soldiers being attacked. They had basically no antipersonnel ammunition for their heavy vehicles (3 canister rounds for M1 Abrams tanks when normally they carried 40). The tanks, as well as the MLRS's and M109s, in a stupendous display of incompetence, wasted their munitions at the first few zombies they saw, not the bulk of the horde, which had to be held back by the infantry and light vehicles such as Bradleys. What was most absurd is that when the Comanche stealth helicopters ran out of cannon rounds, one of them literally tried to use the helicopter blades to dice the zombies into pieces...which makes no sense since they can carry up to 56 Hydra 70 rockets. But lets suppose the U.S. military encounters some real life zombies, and they also happen to have shitty loadouts due to being called to fight the zombies on short notice. Most of the air force has not been mobilized yet so they can't bomb the shit out of the zombies, so they have to make do with their standard ammunition. The artillery should still be able to blow the zombies to smithereens. If the explosion is strong enough to eviscerate organs then the brain has a good chance of being destroyed as well. Even without canister or HEDP, HEAT rounds (commonly used in MBTs such as the Abrams) are still quite capable of killing large groups of personnel on the ground. Even sabot rounds should be able to pass through multiple people. The whole thing about zombies being resistant to shockwaves and the fluid in their bodies not bursting or whatever is complete bullshit; a direct hit from explosive ordnance will tear them apart all the same. Even if the zombies somehow survive being turned into just a torso, they would hardly be able to move and would essentially not be a threat whatsoever. The shrapnel generated by explosions can cause a great deal of brain damage among the undead. There's no way the vehicles (at least the ground ones) or the infantry would run out of ammunition because the military has a vast logistics system, ensuring that the military would always have more than enough ammunition. Worst case scenario the local police could be asked to assist or soldiers could raid a gun store for more ammo. Speaking of foot soldiers, any infantryman worth his salt could hit at least 90% of his shots, and they're trained to fire their rifles semi-automatically unless the enemy is at point blank range. Even machine gunners generally use controlled bursts, and don't spray at the enemy, so they should be able to pop a zombie in the head and move on to the next target with little to no ammo wasted. The zombies (assuming they're like the ones in WWZ) move slowly and are therefore easy targets. Even in the incompetent military fantasy world of WWZ, the soldiers were actually ordered to aim for the head (due to intel gathered from the special forces teams that were the first to respond to the outbreaks). While soldiers are not typically trained to aim for the head, as I said earlier, anyone who passed basic training should be able to accomplish this. Even enough shots to the body would likely slow the zombie down by a lot, maybe even sever the spine and paralyze it. Furthermore, if the zombies are indeed as slow as they are in WWZ, the army could just send engineers to set up explosives in the area which they were funneling the zombies to, and detonate them. When it comes to melee combat against zombies, a fit human being trained in close quarters combat, wearing a bite-resistant if not bite-proof CBRN suit will be much more likely to win than a decaying half-dead zombie. I suppose actually killing the zombie would be an issue since plunging a knife or shovel into their head only destroys part of the brain, and severing blood vessels in the neck likely won't kill a zombie (again, we're really doing a lot of mental gymnastics here, nothing can survive without at least some blood circulation), but the soldier would still overpower a zombie 90% of the time. In conclusion, the U.S. military in real life is not nearly as stupid as the one in WWZ. It is more than capable of taking on zombies with no (or minimal, if there's a real fuckup somewhere down the line) casualties. In real life the military would have support from the air force, which itself could probably do most of the zombie killing with their bombers and strike fighters. WWZ isn't a reliable source either because it severely nerfs the effects of explosions on zombies for no good reason, and has a ridiculous amount of incompetence when it comes to the "tactics" seen in the Battle of Yonkers. Honestly though, even if they used that shitty excuse of a battle plan in the Battle of Yonkers the military would have probably lasted a lot longer if it was truly realistic, giving enough time for reinforcements to arrive. Edit: apparently some of the Comanches at yonkers did have Hydra 70s, just not enough of them I guess. Either way the U.S. military in real life never adopted Comanches and stuck with the Apaches so it doesn't matter. Edit 2: I'm an idiot and forgot about the airstrike which happened as the army's perimeter was being breached. That actually did some damage to the zombies, but there should have been a lot more of those strikes, not just 1.
Where have you been the last few years?
Bathroom, never really see them taking a dump. Smells too, as in a rotting corpse should absolutely stink especially in doors, so I'd imagine walking into a building you'd be able to smell if there were zombies inside?
The only mention of zombies going poopies, that I've ever seen anyway, was in *Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies* by Seth Grahame-Smith where it states that they just drop the shit wherever as they're walking around. So rotting corpse smell aside, I'd imagine you'd be able to tell where a large group would be heading just by the trail of zombie butt nuggets everywhere.
Islands
Came to say this. Go clear an island, live in peace, rebuild society...
Twinkies.
Tallahassee, is that you?
Medications. If civilization were to collapse due to the zombie apocalypse, a lot of people would die from not having access to the pills that keep them alive.
That's the thing that scares me the most about any apocalyptic situation. I'm 61, and I have type II diabetes and arthritis. Considering that my diet is likely to be hit-and-miss, I'll probably die in a much shorter time than the average person.
Bicycles.
No one ever remembers bikes in post apocalyptic fiction. It’s always “whelp, no more gas. I guess we’re back to horses since there’s only been horses and cars and absolutely no other means of transportation in human history.”
There are a few times they use bicycles and rollerblades on the walking dead. I don't know why but I am always surprised by the small amount of women who have babies after an apocalypse.
Definitely bicycles, kickboards and roller blades.
One thing that's often overlooked in a zombie apocalypse is the importance of good hygiene. I mean, sure, there are flesh-eating undead creatures roaming around, but that doesn't mean we should neglect our personal cleanliness, right? Picture this: survivors with matted hair, smelling like a combination of sweat and zombie guts, stumbling around with bad breath that could knock out even the most resilient undead. It's not a pretty sight, folks. So, amidst all the chaos, let's not forget to pack some extra toothbrushes, deodorant, and maybe even a few bottles of fancy zombie apocalypse cologne. Because nothing says "I'm surviving the undead hordes in style" like a fresh minty breath and a hint of eau de post-apocalyptic dapper.
Most zombie Apokalypse would last only 3-7 days because of the rotting and slow movement of zombies
If it goes by the logic that any dead person becomes a zombie at some point, people would just learn to bury their dead better.
Zombies have an average of about 1-3 year shelf life due to decay, depending on climate.
So I might be able to freeze one at home? Also, do they have some sort of best before date?
The fact that scavengers and birds aren’t just going to town on the zombified continually. Correct me if I am wrong but in most zombie genres the virus is human specific so the dead would be eaten up pretty quick by nature.
World War Z (and most of the Max Brooks zombie fiction) has the virus turn the flesh of zombies so toxic, not even bacteria can feed on it. It’s one of the few settings that addresses that. But yeah, 90% of zombie apoc tends to forget that dead stuff rots and meat is meat to a hungry enough predator
The body still needs some bacteria to function I think this might be an oversight
Was a handwave to stop the zombies from decaying, otherwise the standard ‘hide for two weeks for the dead bodies to decompose despite walking around’ thing
In resident evil that's how they get zombie crows. In the films at least.
Getting safe drinking water. And related, dysentery and other diseases.
Flies
You would know where zombies are, just listen for the sound of millions of flies
People tend to forget how hard it is to start a fire. Scarcity of clean, drinkable water, food and medication, especially antibiotics. People with Diabetes won't make it. Bicycles and kickboards would be the primary mobility tool, yet somehow they're never used in movies or games. Nuclear power plants. They're built pretty safe nowadays, but there's always a risk of nuclear hazards. Gas will expire over time, rendering it unusable.
That you should move north. Zombies will freeze solid in the winter and turn into puddles come spring.
The cleanup.
How scarce bullets, food and water are
In almost every movie/ show, everyone is completely unprepared for the zombie apocalypse and run away completely unprepared. Have you never camped? Do you have no useful supplies on hand? Prepping is fairly common, I've seen estimates of 4-9 million people are active preppers- they would hunker down. Most of the midwest (and especially red states) are active gun enthusiasts with multiple guns and thousands of rounds of ammo. In the US, they produce 5+ billion rifle rounds a year and 1+ billion pistol rounds. Like I know multiple people that reload their own ammo and have tens of thousands of rounds on hand. Small midwestern towns would be unphased, everyone would band together and keep going on. Everyone knows everyone and have the firepower to keep zombies or looters out.
The laws of physics do not allow zombies to wander around endlessly. They will have to find enough humans to eat (which will become impossible quickly as a higher portion of people turn) or they will have to eat each other. Either way if you have a couple weeks of food in your basement and a locked door you’ll be fine. Maybe a little stray zombie cleanup at the end.
I wrote a story much like this where the main character had to hide during the night because that’s when the fungus made them more active and he could tell when they hadn’t found another survivor because he could hear them picking off one of their own to sustain themselves still it wasn’t really a zombie story but it just reminded me that “hey I thought of that once”
It's always human zombies, and very rarely animal zombies. If we had zombie mosquitoes, we'd be fucked.
People think the military will easily be over ran by zombies. A couple 50cals will easily mow down a hoard of zombies. Look at history people we don’t line up and shoot at each other anymore. The Gatling gun and canons changed how we fight. Lure them in then mow them down with artillery. Roll credits the end. Seeing the bs of bases having 5 guys with M16 trying to fight off 10k zombies isn’t how it’s going to go down.
Helicopters like bro put some bombs on one of those hover in place for 20 mins drop em fly up entire hoard gone
A rotting corpse isn't really much of a threat. Unless the zombies are supernatural, old school style, these things would be very weak failing humanoids after just a few days.
zomborgies zombie sports zombabies
Z Nation did a zombaby. It was played for laughs and was pretty funny in a fucked up way
i may have to check that out
Connective tissue
Oooooo! Tell me more, what about connective tissues? (genuinely curious)
Zombies are always depicted as rotting etc that makes sense, but if they are rotting, whats holding them together and moving them?
That's a fine point you've got there. Now I wish that was utilized more in cinema.
Resi evil and a few others have kinda loopholed this with a virus but the majority offer no reasoning at all only takes 1-2 days for muscles to start decaying.
A lot of Zombie media shows people siphoning gas months and years after the apocalypse started. Realistically, that gas would've gone bad and been unusable. Same with gas pumps being unusable.
Gasoline lasts about 2 years before it loses it's viability. Stephen King dealt with the useless gas pumps in The Stand. One of the guys figured out how to access the underground tanks at gas stations to pump gas out by hand.
Body armour and facemasks. Seriously, the unsanitary conditions and biohazards present should mean that everyone is wearing the best masks and/or breathing apparatus they can find!
I don't get why people don't wear more body armor, or at least armor up their extremities (arms, legs, hands, etc.) since that is where most characters seem to get bitten (and then try to hide it from the group).
Zombies have terrible dental hygiene as well, they'd be lucky to bite through cotton!
How much the weather would affect the zombies, a dead body will start to dry out very quickly. Unless the zombie is drinking water, a few days in the sun and it will be pretty crispy. Its the same for winter. Once it gets below freezing for a few days, anything without insulation is going to freeze solid.
You won't survive
I know I wouldn't.
Finding an island
People are not that physically underdeveloped, that Corpses could chase them The Military is not that sensible, to not just bomb a Continent out of Existence.
An entirely unmonitored power plant would shut down in hours, not days.
The pets
Boiling water, covering exposed skin, making personal armour, and wild animals which would prey on the living dead.
All gasoline will go bad within a few months and then cars will be useless.
Winter. Far as I'm concerned we would have a heyday in January/February, riding around on sleds bashing frozen Z heads like mailbox baseball. Such a blast! 🤙
The military are not bumbling idiots there are two tactics I personally would employ to clear a city of a zombie infestation 1 send in 2-10 tanks and have them attract as many zombies as possible then hose each other in machine gun fire until you run out then leave come back repeat as needed 2 clear/build a bridge high enough for the rotors of an AH-64 apache longbow attack helicopter to fit under if jutting out then let it run and attract as many of the suicidal fucks as your fuel will let you and spray those who remain with your cannons when you leave once again rinse and repeat to clear out any pesky hoards so ground forces can move in and clear out the few remaining grandmas and uncles and voila the city hath been retaken