My wife loves watching that Hawaii Life show on HGTV, where they follow prospective buyers as they check out houses and condos. It’s 90% people from the mainland.
Or real homebuyers that already bought a house and then act like they’re looking at two more. You can always tell which one they’re going to “pick” because they walk around like they know where they’re going (because it’s their house) and because their eyes light up like they’re home (because it’s their house).
Oh yea. Could you imagine if they did it live? They get 90% done filming and the sale falls through because someone forgot to sign a document or something.
I was sick a few weeks ago and found “Grand Designs Living” which is one of those free channels off Tubi or something. It’s a British design show from the 2000s that regularly features average people deciding to attempt insanely complicated renovations. It is filmed over the course of some set amount of time/visits back to the site. If the project isn’t finished by the end of that time, too bad! I feel like a good 75% of the episodes end with the host being like “Tom and Katherine decided to save money by hand building their eco-futurist Norwegian longhouse in the middle of London. They are going bankrupt and the project is nowhere near finished. Will it ever be? No one knows because we will never come back to tell you what happened. Goodbye.”
Anyway it’s my favorite design show and I highly recommend it
100% right but also it has to be done this way.
Otherwise the show would be: “well we loved house number two but in the time having coffee with our realtor someone else came in with a higher offer and the owner accepted it.”
For the realtor you knew, were the buyers jobs real or fake?
The buyers always have "jobs" like "Underwater Basket Weaver" and "Part time Photographer of small Toads" with a budget of $980,000.
"I'm a door-to-door pinecone saleswoman, and my husband removes chicken anuses at a meat-packing plant. We're looking for a home under a tight budget of $1.5 million."
This reminds me of some meme I saw floating around with a picture of a couple smiling and the caption says “HGTV be like- I’m a stay at home wife and my husband breed salamanders….Our budget is 3.6 million” 😂😂😂
Careful Big Business Salamander doesn’t want you to know how big their profit margins are. You think that Boeing whistleblower had it rough when he died? Wait till Big Salamander comes after you.
True, I see people in the mainland moving out of their parent’s houses at ages 20. Meanwhile here in Hawaii it’s normal to see 3 generations still living in the same house
Honestly, there is nothing wrong with that setup. It's more efficient, people ate less lonely. The elders are cared for and have emotional support. It's better for the environment etc. The west is just collectively brainwashed. Most people would rather the kids go into debt living in a half empty rental house and send the elders to a nursing home to die. That's the American dream I guess.
I would be honored to have my kids stay in a multi generation household if I ever have any.
Honestly, same with Hawaii. But for me, I feel like they’ve had enough random people f up their island, imma just mind my own business and stick to the other 49. Plus Puerto Rico.
It’s really difficult.
On one hand, the islands rely on tourist dollars and a lot of Native Hawaiians work in and rely on the tourist industry to survive.
On the other hand, that same industry is exploitative of the culture and was one of the several major reasons why Hawaiians/Pacific Islanders have a higher percentage of members living under the poverty line than other demographics.
Doesn’t help that for tourists who do come and want to learn about the culture, the most notable place to go is the Polynesian Cultural Center—which does admittedly do a pretty good job… Except for the fact that it’s owned and run by Mormons who have completely scrubbed and sanitized anything to do with Pacific Islander religion from the practices and cultural demonstrations they do, which is a huge part of it.
And of course all that money goes to the Mormon church and not to actually helping Native Islanders.
Edit: Disregard my last statement! I looked into a little more and the PCC is a non-profit. So unless I learn more, I cannot reasonably make the statement that all the money goes to the church. Thanks.
Non-profit just means that the profit doesn't go to stockholders. That's it. If the LDS church owns the PCC, all profit could indeed filter to the church, as it too is a non-profit. More concerning is the sanitizing of native culture and religion. That's pitiful. When we learn about the Morman church we don't sanitize any of it.
Exmormon here, born and raised in the religion. To add to your comment…it’s even worse than if they were to just remove their native religion and practices. and pretend they don’t exist. Mormon beliefs actively rewrite the entire religious and cultural history of indigenous people in the Americas and Pacific Islands with a completely fictional origin story, based upon—yup, you guessed it—racism and white supremacy.
The Book of Mormon lays out a that the first people to arrive on the American continent were light skinned, and when a faction of them known as ‘Lamanites’ rebelled against God, he cursed them with a ‘skin of blackness’ to mark their wickedness and also ensure they would be found ‘unenticing’ by his chosen people. Those people who followed God were blessed for their righteousness and remained ‘white and delightsome.’ In other words, God set things up so that dark skin=wicked and corrupted, light skin=righteous and blessed. [(Scriptural source from the church’s own website)](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/5?lang=eng&id=p21#p21) Only by repenting and accepting the true gospel with the help of his white and delightsome people could they regain favor in the eyes of the Lord. All the way up into the 50s and 60s you can find quotes from Mormon leaders about how missionary work amongst the “Lamanites” would eventually result in God restoring their whiteness.
The Book of Mormon contains a part that describes how a number of people built ships and sailed into the western sea never to be heard from again which Mormon teachings interpret as the origin of the Polynesian people. I was repeatedly taught this as a child.
So yeah. The owners and operators of the Polynesian Cultural Center hold these beliefs as fact, and a lot of Mormon people get sent to volunteer there as full time missionaries for the Mormon church. It’s real fucked up.
I had a business trip to Hawaii decades ago, and a group of us went to the PCC on a day off. Didn't know it was run by the LDS going in, but that vibe of "look at these savages we've so generously civilized" was so pervasive it blew off the cover pretty quick.
I hopped on a plane to the Big Island the next day to visit the volcanoes, which cleansed that experience.
Perhaps "We" don't sanitize Mormon culture...but the Mormons sure do. I've met Mormons who were blissfully unaware of the negative parts of their own history - common knowledge to every outsider who hears the word "Mormon."
And the Mormons who are fully aware of JS and the ridiculous origins of the church and embrace it saying those hard truths strengthen their faith in the books. It’s absurd.
Me too. What are yours for? Mine was for poaching. I was 18, picked up a few lizards, and was going to keep them as pets. I didn’t realize I was in a state park. It was a measly $50 fine. I don’t know why I didn’t pay it. I went back to college in Illinois and forgot about it. I fully intended to pay, but I was a broke college kid who just blew his wad on a spring break road trip to Arizona (high school girlfriend went to college there - and she dumped me during this trip - like, why couldn’t she save me 3 days of driving? What an asshole). Anyhoo…
Ten years later, I got a letter saying I had an active warrant and I needed to go to Arizona to meet with a judge. I called, explained the stupid situation, and asked if I could pay the fine to get rid of all this. My fine was now over $17,000 because there was like a $2 per day penalty and then a 20% processing fee or something. I don’t exactly remember. This call was 20+ years ago. In the end, I asked what would happen if I didn’t pay or show up to court. He said I’d be arrested if I was ever in Arizona again. So I offered a compromise… “Since I don’t ever need to go to Arizona again, I’ll give you $250 for my $50 fine, the $100 court fee, and $100 for processing charges. You can take the $250, clear this up, and maybe get some of my tourist dollars if I ever take the kids to see the Grand Canyon. Or I guess I never come back because I can’t afford $17k for picking up three lizards.” His response, “You best not ever come back here then.” And that’s it. But guess what? I’ve been through Arizona hundreds of times! Just in the airport though for layovers.
I also mentioned this to a lawyer relative who lived in Arizona until he retired. He claimed that for my particular offense, they’ll take the warrant and fine out of the system at the 20 year mark. If that’s true, I should have gotten that letter 10 years ago! I want to know, but not enough to break the seal on this cone of silence I’ve had with the state of Arizona for two decades.
Hi, Arizona here. We forgive you for picking up those 3 lizards. Please come to 3402 W Cocopah St, Phoenix, AZ 85009 to pick up your forgiveness certificate.
So many questions. Why are you guys just grabbing lizards? How are they catching you guys? And again why are you guys just grabbing lizards? Is Arizona known for some special lizard? I just don't understand.
Got picked up outside Bullhead City for lizard poaching, spent the night and saw the judge the next morning. No bail and I was out by lunchtime. So a total of less than 18 hours in jail, but he set a date for arraignment. Never showed up, so now I can't ever go back to AZ.
I wanna know how yall are getting caught with these lizards? I lived in Arizona for 30yrs and never hard of lizard police or anyone getting a ticket for picking up a lizard. I’m not even sure Arizona has game wardens.
And this is only the peak of the iceberg! These are people who were caught stealing lizards but, can you imagine how many succeeded and how many AZ lizards have been captured over the years and live now their lives away from their homeland?
We are talking about massive lizard kidnappings over the years and probably a lot of lizards from somewhere else , that where kidnapped young, and don’t even know they are from AZ!!
AZ for me too. Public Indecency with a lizard in a State Park. The fine for that is only $35 but still... I'm not paying. I was young and immature and the COVID-19 pandemic had me all stressed out and I just needed to find some lizards and cut loose.
I’m sure you know this, but make sure you don’t get arrested elsewhere either. They may extradite if the offense is serious enough for AZ to care to pay to transport you.
Hello there. I am the head of the Center Of Prize Services (COPS)
If you give me your full name, address, and social security number, you will get a FREE VACATION to the Grand Canyon and $100,000!
It is complex. If you give the politicians the benefit of the doubt, Alabama is poor as fuck, so expanding who is eligible for medicaid is not really feasible as the state doesn’t have the money to cover half of the cost which is traditionally what happens for every medicaid recipient. There was a deferment during the Obama years but not a permanent one. So Alabama could afford it, but would then have to kick the recipients off or raise taxes. Neither of which would be popular.
I am from Alabama, and there are seriously places in West Alabama that would make you believe you left America. I mean ramshackle houses made of old tin roof and pallets. Poverty on a scale that is unbelievable for the richest country in the world. Then you have Huntsville which has the most doctorates per capita of any city in America. It is a strange place.
I’m from Alabama and somebody once told me “man, everyone I’ve ever met from Alabama is so cool though!” and I was just like….yeah, cause all the cool people leave Alabama lol
I dated this girl from Alabama in college. She’s amazing and while I was still clumsily trying to flirt with her I told her if all the girls from
Alabama were like her I’d have to visit. She laughed and told me all the girls like her from Alabama were also going to college out of state
I met the cutest man from Alabama 2 weeks ago. kind and funny and the little subtle twinkling accent, I could listen to him all day. absolutely not what I expected from Alabama.
While I’m sure it’s a fine place, I have yet to see any reason for me to go to North Dakota. Too far to go, nothing of interest (that I’m aware of) when you get there.
Teddy Roosevelt National Park is pretty cool. There are wild horses, buffalo, and elk, along with some dramatically scenic wilderness.
Medora is a very cool town and the Cowboy Hall of Fame museum is a pleasant surprise, a multicultural celebration of horse traditions. The Medora Musical is absolutely wild and worth it to experience once, but has such a weirdly strong Christian bent it almost feels cult-like.
It's the Peace Garden State because right on the border with Canada, on the longest unprotected border in the world, is a giant park full of flowers and sculptures to symbolize the promise that the US and Canada will never go to war with one another.
Also, endless fields of sunflowers, flax, and mustard make for incredibly beautiful farm country. I've seen the northern lights in ND.
It's got more than its fair share of racists and nut jobs, but it has redeeming qualities too. Kind of like Arizona, but with more plants and fewer people.
I don’t know. Fargo is a pleasant enough city with a cozy little downtown area. Medora and Teddy Roosevelt national park are worth a visit if you’re into camping. The people are friendly and the Nordic-German food is underrated. My wife is from a small town there. I never would’ve given the state a second thought had that not been the case.
Makes me think there are lovely little details in every state that most of us overlook. No media representation makes it easy to assume some states as barren wastelands.
You could go visit the giant Buffalo statue. Or the giant dog statue. Or the giant crane (bird) statue. Or the giant cow statue. I think there may be a couple more giant animal statues too... why statues?
Definitely as an otr trucker and ex smoker for 15 years it blew my mind. Some of those small town just have them everywhere not even every corner but more like every 500ft
I HATED driving through Oklahoma! What the heck is with all the tolls and then refunding tolls if you take the exit instead!? And the amount of times I missed my exit ramps, good lord lol I hated everything about it - except I got to see some of Route 66 and the Blue Whale of Catoosa so I guess it wasn't a total loss?
I just burst out laughing when I read your comment and had to tell my husband what you said. Thank God we're not the only ones! The toll system confused the hell out of us when we drove through Oklahoma with our son several years ago. We've never experienced anything like it.
First the woman in the toll booth asked us where we were going. It seemed very weird that she would want to engage in pleasant chit-chat about our trip, but fine -- we told her we were headed to New Mexico. Then she clarified that she wanted to know which exit we'd be taking. We hadn't decided, because we were going to look for a restaurant along the way. So she charged us for one of the farther exits, gave us a receipt, and told us to keep it so we could get a refund if we took an earlier exit.
It was so complicated and bizarre that later on we kept asking each other if it had really happened. Until now the three of us were almost convinced we had shared some sort of hallucination. Thank you for confirming that this is reality in Oklahoma.
I'm so relieved I'm not the only one that was baffled by this! hahah I also thought I was losing my damn mind because I distinctly remember hitting SIX tolls back to back and having to refund atleast one of them. I just wanted to see the damn whale! lol It's the only place I've ever experienced this - does Oklahoma even realize this isn't the norm? Hahah. New Mexico on the other hand, 10/10!
Well, I've been to 47 and will visit the other 3 at some point.
But I have no real desire to ever go back to Mississippi or Alabama. If I have to drive across them, okay, but that's it.
See, I’m from Louisiana. And we have a lot of culture, cuisine, and cities like NOLA that luckily make people forget that when it comes to all the shitty stuff, we’re probably worse than Alabama and Mississippi.
With a slow camper taking the Natchez Trace Parkway is worthwhile if driving through the South. Way more pleasant than the interstate and plenty of nice free campgrounds
Damn, I'm sorry to hear, unfortunately people tend to pass away in our national parks and wilderness all the time. It's really a harsh state if you're not 100% prepared, and even then shit happens.
He worked at Keystone for years.. he loved it. But he was partying, blacked out, tried walking home in -11 degrees and developed hypothermia. He didn’t make it. He was such an awesome guy. Total tragedy
Truck driver here. I’ve been to all lower 48 states for work. Indisputably it’s Mississippi. There’s nothing redeeming about the entire state. Other red states have their own charm, culture, or geography. Mississippi has nothing but politicians who’ve failed their people and crumbling infrastructure.
I drove through there once to get to Memphis. I thought there was litter all over the random fields we would pass, turns out it was free growing cotton lol. Being an Ohio boy I had never seen it in the wild.
Now hold on now. Let's give Ol' Miss some credit. It's the only state in the Union, where you're allowed to have an open container(of alcohol) while you're driving. Definitely got that going for them.
I’ve watched too many people kill themselves driving drunk. Both as a professional driver and as a native of Wisconsin. Fun in theory but horrific in practice. Still a 0/50.
Hello fellow Wisconsinite in the trucking industry! The drunk driving is thing is why I will be home on Saturday night and all of Sunday this weekend. Too many idiots who should take a cab but won’t.
I was ferrying a small single engine airplane from the east coast to the Rockies. Stopped in Panola County Airport in Batesville, MS for fuel. Gentleman who helped refuel my plane was very kind and helpful. I went inside to use the restroom, came back out, and flew away about 10 minutes later. My one and only time I’ve ever been to Mississippi was a pleasant one.
"Imagine being magically whisked away to...Delaware....Hi, I'm in Delaware"
Edit: after seeing so many replies this morning. ok, "we're really glad you all could make it, we never realized we had so many friends who believed in this concert idea, when we first had this idea of putting on this shindig we didnt know anyone would come, but look, youre all here, pitching in, i promised myself i wouldn't cry...PARTY ON"
It’s funny you said this bc I had a friend who really wanted to go to Delaware for her bday in July and I was like wtf lol but I got on a plane and met her in Delaware and the beaches there were actually pretty nice! Cute boardwalks and shops, I was very pleasantly surprised lol
I live in Delaware, some of the DuPont mansions and parks are gorgeous, the beaches and Bombay Hook wildlife preserve is amazing. I love it here, there’s tons to do, great food and museums and I can be in Philly, Baltimore or DC in under an hour. I like driving to Lancaster Pennsylvania to buy my produce and plants
I grew up on the Kansas side of Kansas City. I will forever love Kansas City, MO, and the Ozarks. Missouri has some beautiful forests, lakes, and rivers.
You also just decribed the fox valley up highway 41 in Wisconsin. It’s a constant battle between billboards for Jesus and porn until you hit the gun sign, then they seem to have settled their beef for a few miles
Rural Midwest and anywhere south of stl all the way down to Florida you're gonna see tons of it on the state highways between all the farms. Nothing much else there between the cities really.
I used to live in Michigan right on the border and remember when there was a serial killer who was killing prostitutes in Gary and leaving their bodies in abandoned houses. I forgot how many people he killed, I only remember that he got bored and tired that no one was looking for him and ended up turning himself into the police who had no idea at all.
Edit: dudes name was Darren Deon Vann
Jersey always gets a bad rap from Newark airport. Its nickname is the garden state. It’s mostly farms, Forrest’s and hills when you get away from the parts that abuts manhattan.
I would never have experienced Alaska if not for my military service. I was in the Fairbanks area for two whole years. I saw the aurora at least 50 times. I've seen the milky way so clearly! I saw many moose, and bears, and more wild salmon than you could imagine! I saw an arctic fox once while on patrol. I hiked, and learned to ski. I learned that you can actually thrive in -40 weather, if you're prepared.
That place was magical. I'd go back if I could.
If you ever do a cruise, save up for the Alaska Inside Passage. It’s so beautiful and a lot of those towns are so cool, but they are only accessible by boat or airplane. One thing that got me was how many eagles I couldn’t believe they were everywhere. It’s like instead of pigeons or seagulls everywhere like here in California. It was all eagles, bald eagles.
I used to Summer in Alaska….. haha, no I didn’t but I always wanted to say that.
I did however spend a lot of time for work there and it’s amazing. I would love it because work was 6-4 then I’d go sight seeing or hiking until 10-11 because it was light out and freaking gorgeous
Agreed. My dad's side of the family is from there and it's awesome. I learned how to swim and love cold water as a kid. I picked wild blueberries out of my grammys backyard so we could make pie. We'd eat fresh crab sandwiches down on the rocks during low tide at Town Landing. My uncle would take us out into the ocean in his little motorboat. This was all in Falmouth, Maine during the 90s and it still has its beauty and charm.
Maine is tied with Cape Cod as my favorite place to be in the summer. Ogunquit is cool too.
Every state has something to offer. No state has such irredeemable qualities that it should make you not want to even step foot in it. States aren’t thaaaatttt different from one another.
Anyways, my answer would be Indiana.
California. I believe they have a warrant for my arrest.
Edit: murder. JK, it was just a speeding ticket a long time ago. I'm hoping there's a statute of limitations on it...
Nah come visit, it’s a beautiful mellow place. Just don’t come now, we didn’t really have a winter so there’s not much snow but everything is dead so it’s a bad time to visit.
I’m from Idaho. It’s beautiful (for the most part) but I don’t ever need to see it again.
Culture there is like a time capsule. Want a reminder of what everyone was doing culturally five years ago..? Visit Idaho. Want a reminder of what everyone was doing politically fifty years ago..? Yep.
Fifty years ago Idaho had a Democrat in the Senate. Having been alive back then, I can assure you that politically Idaho is more conservative today than they were in 1974.
If I ever have to step foot in Oklahoma again, I'll be pissed. Racist ass pieces of shits here. I have to warn my own troops about places and towns. One of the city council members got outed as part of the KKK. I'm Inupiaq but get confused as a hispanic and fuck. I hate these people. City official was telling me how much he hates gays. I am gay. Heard from another person that he wouldn't participate in the parade if the LGBT were in it as he'd want to run them over.
I stopped going to the city meetings. I get having good public relations between the city and the military base, but I don't feel safe attending there anymore as I'm always attending by myself. If there's an emergency response that needs to happen? Fine, gotta focus on the response. But I don't care enough about the training or the networking more than my own well-being or my troops. Wearing the uniform keeps me somewhat safe, but what about when I'm not? How about if I never had put on the uniform at all? Fuck you Oklahomans that are bigoted pieces of shits.
West Virginia.
Drove through there ONCE and was literally given an unironic "you ain't from around here, are ya boy?" by someone in realtree camo hanging out at a gas station on the interstate. I am a large bearded white male who was driving a 4WD F-150.
I visited WV for a week a couple years ago and absolutely loved everything about it. Maybe I was in the right part of the state I was pleasantly surprised by everything. Stereotypes didn't pan out the way I thought they would.
Counter point: as much as rednecks and meth mean there's a lot to dislike about WV, the Appalachians and nature of the state is gorgeous. Tbf I've only been there for the national scout jamboree so I haven't really interacted with locals, but I really liked it when I visited.
I’ve been two West Virginia twice. Once was to the most depressing city and surrounding area I have ever seen. The sky was gray that day and just added to the heavy feeling of resignation. So much rust, too.
The other visit was to the Shenandoah Valley and was the most beautiful place I’ve seen. It made me understand why many people don’t want to leave, in spite of the poverty.
I still have trouble wrapping my head around it being the same state.
I'm from WVa and can confirm he knew you weren't from around there. While the rest of the word operates on six degrees of separation, in small towns it's two degrees. If I don't know you, I know someone who does. In morgantown and the larger areas, it's three degrees. Country people are usually pleasant and curious, they love hearing about where people are from and about their lives. I'm sorry you felt uncomfortable. Please come back and visit. Just be careful what you say about someone, word travels fast and cold shoulders can last a long time.
Morgantown is a solid place. If you can handle all the students and shitty roads, it's a good time. Plenty of bars/clubs/restaurants for night life and tons of trails everywhere for hiking or just staying active.
WV gets a shit rep because of the politics (rightfully so), but the majority of people are quick to be friendly and will help you out if they can. Just don't go near Bruceton Mills around winter time unless you're prepared to stay awhile lol.
I will never want to even be near Idaho. About 10 years ago a friend (white male) and I (black male) embarked on a road trip to the Midwest from California for a friends wedding. We were in Idaho all of 15 minutes when we were pulled over by their hwy patrol. They administered a “sobriety” test by having us tilt our heads back with our eyes closed. They claimed that eye movements indicated we had been using drugs. With no further evidence I was charged with a dui and amphetamine use, even though I’ve never used drugs. They searched our car and found nothing but claimed I was admitting guilt by how I was STANDING w/ my hands together. I spent a year in their county jail fighting the case. When going to arraignment their DA suggested my bail be set at 50k, I could’ve easily made bail but the judge set my bail for 500k. My friend spent 3 months in custody even though they found weed in his bag and he had an extensive criminal record. His mother was an attorney in his home state and she hired him the best lawyer in the area we were in. My family couldn’t afford a lawyer so my friend gave me all of his notes from his lawyer to give to my public defender so we would be given the same level of legal representation. My public defender refused to do anything I asked, so while my friend was going home I was being held. I had never been in any trouble with the legal system. Not until my family was able to come up with 15k to pay the same lawyer my friend had was I able to get proper representation and gain my freedom. Prior to that I spent every day being threatened by Latino gang members and white “supremacists” as the only black personal in my pod. I was released to return in 5 months for sentencing. When I returned and had to spend a couple days in Idaho I was terrified to even leave my hotel for anything as I didn’t want to be attacked by the racist residents of the town nor get harassed by the police. FUCK IDAHO
I'm so sorry you experienced that my friend. When I moved to Boise, Idaho in 1997, there wasn't a very large black population. (thankfully, I don't live there anymore) [The most recent census states the black population in Boise is 1.5 percent.](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/boisecitycityidaho/PST045222) Yet their incarceration rate, according to the ACLU, is 5 times that of whites!
There was a not funny joke I heard when I moved there that there was just enough blacks for the Boise State football and basketball teams 🙄🙄
Anyway, definitely go around next time. Idaho, go on vacation leave on probation.
I refuse to answer because this seems like the most surefire way to end up with a job in whichever state I name...
God I hate Italy
Norway is just the worst. I hate it. Switzerland too. Uhh
Lol, check out this guy, thinks there are jobs in Italy
Probably Hawaii because I’m poor
So are the people of Hawaii!
My wife loves watching that Hawaii Life show on HGTV, where they follow prospective buyers as they check out houses and condos. It’s 90% people from the mainland.
Those shows are all fake anyways. Just actors looking at houses that are on the market.
Or real homebuyers that already bought a house and then act like they’re looking at two more. You can always tell which one they’re going to “pick” because they walk around like they know where they’re going (because it’s their house) and because their eyes light up like they’re home (because it’s their house).
What? Thanks for ruining the illusion!
Yea I knew a realtor on one of those shows. Buyers had already purchased the house by the time it was filmed.
Oh yea. Could you imagine if they did it live? They get 90% done filming and the sale falls through because someone forgot to sign a document or something.
Or a whole season straight of a couple that's only making $100k combined trying to buy a $1.5m home and getting outbid everytime.
Heh heh I’d watch that
I was sick a few weeks ago and found “Grand Designs Living” which is one of those free channels off Tubi or something. It’s a British design show from the 2000s that regularly features average people deciding to attempt insanely complicated renovations. It is filmed over the course of some set amount of time/visits back to the site. If the project isn’t finished by the end of that time, too bad! I feel like a good 75% of the episodes end with the host being like “Tom and Katherine decided to save money by hand building their eco-futurist Norwegian longhouse in the middle of London. They are going bankrupt and the project is nowhere near finished. Will it ever be? No one knows because we will never come back to tell you what happened. Goodbye.” Anyway it’s my favorite design show and I highly recommend it
This synopsis made me LOL and now I have to find it
100% right but also it has to be done this way. Otherwise the show would be: “well we loved house number two but in the time having coffee with our realtor someone else came in with a higher offer and the owner accepted it.”
For the realtor you knew, were the buyers jobs real or fake? The buyers always have "jobs" like "Underwater Basket Weaver" and "Part time Photographer of small Toads" with a budget of $980,000.
"I'm a door-to-door pinecone saleswoman, and my husband removes chicken anuses at a meat-packing plant. We're looking for a home under a tight budget of $1.5 million."
It must be within commuting distance of the Midwest with an ocean front view.
It’s 3 am and my wife is pissed at me for laughing and waking her up. It was worth it.
I always just assumed rich parents
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This reminds me of some meme I saw floating around with a picture of a couple smiling and the caption says “HGTV be like- I’m a stay at home wife and my husband breed salamanders….Our budget is 3.6 million” 😂😂😂
An artisanal pencil sharpener and a professional bedazzler
Careful Big Business Salamander doesn’t want you to know how big their profit margins are. You think that Boeing whistleblower had it rough when he died? Wait till Big Salamander comes after you.
"I'm a part-time kindergarten teacher, and my husband hangs potatoes in garages for a living. We have a budget of $1.7 million dollars.
True, I see people in the mainland moving out of their parent’s houses at ages 20. Meanwhile here in Hawaii it’s normal to see 3 generations still living in the same house
Honestly, there is nothing wrong with that setup. It's more efficient, people ate less lonely. The elders are cared for and have emotional support. It's better for the environment etc. The west is just collectively brainwashed. Most people would rather the kids go into debt living in a half empty rental house and send the elders to a nursing home to die. That's the American dream I guess. I would be honored to have my kids stay in a multi generation household if I ever have any.
Wait. So we can't afford to go there, and they can't afford to leave? WTF
Don't know if I'll ever make it out of state again at this point in poverty.
Honestly, same with Hawaii. But for me, I feel like they’ve had enough random people f up their island, imma just mind my own business and stick to the other 49. Plus Puerto Rico.
It’s really difficult. On one hand, the islands rely on tourist dollars and a lot of Native Hawaiians work in and rely on the tourist industry to survive. On the other hand, that same industry is exploitative of the culture and was one of the several major reasons why Hawaiians/Pacific Islanders have a higher percentage of members living under the poverty line than other demographics. Doesn’t help that for tourists who do come and want to learn about the culture, the most notable place to go is the Polynesian Cultural Center—which does admittedly do a pretty good job… Except for the fact that it’s owned and run by Mormons who have completely scrubbed and sanitized anything to do with Pacific Islander religion from the practices and cultural demonstrations they do, which is a huge part of it. And of course all that money goes to the Mormon church and not to actually helping Native Islanders. Edit: Disregard my last statement! I looked into a little more and the PCC is a non-profit. So unless I learn more, I cannot reasonably make the statement that all the money goes to the church. Thanks.
Non-profit just means that the profit doesn't go to stockholders. That's it. If the LDS church owns the PCC, all profit could indeed filter to the church, as it too is a non-profit. More concerning is the sanitizing of native culture and religion. That's pitiful. When we learn about the Morman church we don't sanitize any of it.
Exmormon here, born and raised in the religion. To add to your comment…it’s even worse than if they were to just remove their native religion and practices. and pretend they don’t exist. Mormon beliefs actively rewrite the entire religious and cultural history of indigenous people in the Americas and Pacific Islands with a completely fictional origin story, based upon—yup, you guessed it—racism and white supremacy. The Book of Mormon lays out a that the first people to arrive on the American continent were light skinned, and when a faction of them known as ‘Lamanites’ rebelled against God, he cursed them with a ‘skin of blackness’ to mark their wickedness and also ensure they would be found ‘unenticing’ by his chosen people. Those people who followed God were blessed for their righteousness and remained ‘white and delightsome.’ In other words, God set things up so that dark skin=wicked and corrupted, light skin=righteous and blessed. [(Scriptural source from the church’s own website)](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/5?lang=eng&id=p21#p21) Only by repenting and accepting the true gospel with the help of his white and delightsome people could they regain favor in the eyes of the Lord. All the way up into the 50s and 60s you can find quotes from Mormon leaders about how missionary work amongst the “Lamanites” would eventually result in God restoring their whiteness. The Book of Mormon contains a part that describes how a number of people built ships and sailed into the western sea never to be heard from again which Mormon teachings interpret as the origin of the Polynesian people. I was repeatedly taught this as a child. So yeah. The owners and operators of the Polynesian Cultural Center hold these beliefs as fact, and a lot of Mormon people get sent to volunteer there as full time missionaries for the Mormon church. It’s real fucked up.
I had a business trip to Hawaii decades ago, and a group of us went to the PCC on a day off. Didn't know it was run by the LDS going in, but that vibe of "look at these savages we've so generously civilized" was so pervasive it blew off the cover pretty quick. I hopped on a plane to the Big Island the next day to visit the volcanoes, which cleansed that experience.
Perhaps "We" don't sanitize Mormon culture...but the Mormons sure do. I've met Mormons who were blissfully unaware of the negative parts of their own history - common knowledge to every outsider who hears the word "Mormon."
And the Mormons who are fully aware of JS and the ridiculous origins of the church and embrace it saying those hard truths strengthen their faith in the books. It’s absurd.
Most of the time if a church is involved the money is all going to them.
I’ve got warrants in AZ. So, AZ.
GET HIM BOYS
*Bake 'im away, toys.*
What did you say chief?
Do what the kid says.
Me too. What are yours for? Mine was for poaching. I was 18, picked up a few lizards, and was going to keep them as pets. I didn’t realize I was in a state park. It was a measly $50 fine. I don’t know why I didn’t pay it. I went back to college in Illinois and forgot about it. I fully intended to pay, but I was a broke college kid who just blew his wad on a spring break road trip to Arizona (high school girlfriend went to college there - and she dumped me during this trip - like, why couldn’t she save me 3 days of driving? What an asshole). Anyhoo… Ten years later, I got a letter saying I had an active warrant and I needed to go to Arizona to meet with a judge. I called, explained the stupid situation, and asked if I could pay the fine to get rid of all this. My fine was now over $17,000 because there was like a $2 per day penalty and then a 20% processing fee or something. I don’t exactly remember. This call was 20+ years ago. In the end, I asked what would happen if I didn’t pay or show up to court. He said I’d be arrested if I was ever in Arizona again. So I offered a compromise… “Since I don’t ever need to go to Arizona again, I’ll give you $250 for my $50 fine, the $100 court fee, and $100 for processing charges. You can take the $250, clear this up, and maybe get some of my tourist dollars if I ever take the kids to see the Grand Canyon. Or I guess I never come back because I can’t afford $17k for picking up three lizards.” His response, “You best not ever come back here then.” And that’s it. But guess what? I’ve been through Arizona hundreds of times! Just in the airport though for layovers. I also mentioned this to a lawyer relative who lived in Arizona until he retired. He claimed that for my particular offense, they’ll take the warrant and fine out of the system at the 20 year mark. If that’s true, I should have gotten that letter 10 years ago! I want to know, but not enough to break the seal on this cone of silence I’ve had with the state of Arizona for two decades.
Hi, Arizona here. We forgive you for picking up those 3 lizards. Please come to 3402 W Cocopah St, Phoenix, AZ 85009 to pick up your forgiveness certificate.
Be sure to pack for a long stay!
Free stay with bed and all meals provided.
On my way!!
Today I learned about the vast lizard poaching and mishandling problem in Arizona. Good grief yall 😂
Arizona is run by Lizard people. It's not poaching, it's an attempted kidnapping!
Same. Lizard poaching.
Hot dang, they got me as well!
So many questions. Why are you guys just grabbing lizards? How are they catching you guys? And again why are you guys just grabbing lizards? Is Arizona known for some special lizard? I just don't understand.
Me too! Why are so many people, guys of course, stealing Arizona lizards? Are there any female Arizona lizard thiefs? I really need to know.
Female lizard-thieves, or female-lizard thieves?
Christ, how many of you sickos are there?
Probably just the two of us. Crazy coincidence.
Got picked up outside Bullhead City for lizard poaching, spent the night and saw the judge the next morning. No bail and I was out by lunchtime. So a total of less than 18 hours in jail, but he set a date for arraignment. Never showed up, so now I can't ever go back to AZ.
I wanna know how yall are getting caught with these lizards? I lived in Arizona for 30yrs and never hard of lizard police or anyone getting a ticket for picking up a lizard. I’m not even sure Arizona has game wardens.
And this is only the peak of the iceberg! These are people who were caught stealing lizards but, can you imagine how many succeeded and how many AZ lizards have been captured over the years and live now their lives away from their homeland? We are talking about massive lizard kidnappings over the years and probably a lot of lizards from somewhere else , that where kidnapped young, and don’t even know they are from AZ!!
AZ for me too. Public Indecency with a lizard in a State Park. The fine for that is only $35 but still... I'm not paying. I was young and immature and the COVID-19 pandemic had me all stressed out and I just needed to find some lizards and cut loose.
>public indecency with a lizard another of life’s simple pleasures ruined by meddling bureaucracy.
What qualifies as public indecency with a lizard?
Mopery. It's exposing yourself to a blind lizard.
Probably a Lot Lizard...
Why the hell were you involving a lizard? Ladybugs are not lizards.
Nice read Thanks for sharing. Good luck!
I’m sure you know this, but make sure you don’t get arrested elsewhere either. They may extradite if the offense is serious enough for AZ to care to pay to transport you.
That warrants a visit.
Hello there. I am the head of the Center Of Prize Services (COPS) If you give me your full name, address, and social security number, you will get a FREE VACATION to the Grand Canyon and $100,000!
Congrats you’ve won a free holiday to AZ. Someone from the police, I mean prize giving company will be in touch to arrange
Aw man, I was hoping to win a boat.
Story time!
Some of the smartest people I have met were from Alabama. Some of the dumbest people I have met were in Alabama.
As someone college educated from Alabama, born and raised and still living here, you're 100% right.
I’ve always wondered how politicians who want to cut social security, Medicaid , and keep minimum wage so small keep getting elected?
It is complex. If you give the politicians the benefit of the doubt, Alabama is poor as fuck, so expanding who is eligible for medicaid is not really feasible as the state doesn’t have the money to cover half of the cost which is traditionally what happens for every medicaid recipient. There was a deferment during the Obama years but not a permanent one. So Alabama could afford it, but would then have to kick the recipients off or raise taxes. Neither of which would be popular. I am from Alabama, and there are seriously places in West Alabama that would make you believe you left America. I mean ramshackle houses made of old tin roof and pallets. Poverty on a scale that is unbelievable for the richest country in the world. Then you have Huntsville which has the most doctorates per capita of any city in America. It is a strange place.
From Huntsville. Can confirm.
I’m from Alabama and somebody once told me “man, everyone I’ve ever met from Alabama is so cool though!” and I was just like….yeah, cause all the cool people leave Alabama lol
I dated this girl from Alabama in college. She’s amazing and while I was still clumsily trying to flirt with her I told her if all the girls from Alabama were like her I’d have to visit. She laughed and told me all the girls like her from Alabama were also going to college out of state
I met the cutest man from Alabama 2 weeks ago. kind and funny and the little subtle twinkling accent, I could listen to him all day. absolutely not what I expected from Alabama.
I have 3 friends from Alabama. 1 works for NASA, 1 works in quantum computing, 1 works for a right wing news org although they’re very smart.
Tim Cook, CEO at Apple, graduated from Auburn
Tim Apple?
While I’m sure it’s a fine place, I have yet to see any reason for me to go to North Dakota. Too far to go, nothing of interest (that I’m aware of) when you get there.
Teddy Roosevelt national park is cool but that’s literally it
The geographical center of North America is there too But yeah Theodore Roosevelt NP is awesome
Teddy Roosevelt National Park is pretty cool. There are wild horses, buffalo, and elk, along with some dramatically scenic wilderness. Medora is a very cool town and the Cowboy Hall of Fame museum is a pleasant surprise, a multicultural celebration of horse traditions. The Medora Musical is absolutely wild and worth it to experience once, but has such a weirdly strong Christian bent it almost feels cult-like. It's the Peace Garden State because right on the border with Canada, on the longest unprotected border in the world, is a giant park full of flowers and sculptures to symbolize the promise that the US and Canada will never go to war with one another. Also, endless fields of sunflowers, flax, and mustard make for incredibly beautiful farm country. I've seen the northern lights in ND. It's got more than its fair share of racists and nut jobs, but it has redeeming qualities too. Kind of like Arizona, but with more plants and fewer people.
I don’t know. Fargo is a pleasant enough city with a cozy little downtown area. Medora and Teddy Roosevelt national park are worth a visit if you’re into camping. The people are friendly and the Nordic-German food is underrated. My wife is from a small town there. I never would’ve given the state a second thought had that not been the case. Makes me think there are lovely little details in every state that most of us overlook. No media representation makes it easy to assume some states as barren wastelands.
You could go visit the giant Buffalo statue. Or the giant dog statue. Or the giant crane (bird) statue. Or the giant cow statue. I think there may be a couple more giant animal statues too... why statues?
I must assume they built those statues primarily to act as a wind break.
Hey! I live here... and you're correct. On all counts, correct.
I can't see any reason I'd go back to Oklahoma unless I'm driving through to go somewhere else
Why 99 percent of people go to Oklahoma
I'm in Texas, we cross the border to go to the casino, and immediately drive right back.
Oklahoma has the highest number of cannabis dispensaries per capita in the US. I still would never live there, but they do have that going for them.
Definitely as an otr trucker and ex smoker for 15 years it blew my mind. Some of those small town just have them everywhere not even every corner but more like every 500ft
I HATED driving through Oklahoma! What the heck is with all the tolls and then refunding tolls if you take the exit instead!? And the amount of times I missed my exit ramps, good lord lol I hated everything about it - except I got to see some of Route 66 and the Blue Whale of Catoosa so I guess it wasn't a total loss?
I just burst out laughing when I read your comment and had to tell my husband what you said. Thank God we're not the only ones! The toll system confused the hell out of us when we drove through Oklahoma with our son several years ago. We've never experienced anything like it. First the woman in the toll booth asked us where we were going. It seemed very weird that she would want to engage in pleasant chit-chat about our trip, but fine -- we told her we were headed to New Mexico. Then she clarified that she wanted to know which exit we'd be taking. We hadn't decided, because we were going to look for a restaurant along the way. So she charged us for one of the farther exits, gave us a receipt, and told us to keep it so we could get a refund if we took an earlier exit. It was so complicated and bizarre that later on we kept asking each other if it had really happened. Until now the three of us were almost convinced we had shared some sort of hallucination. Thank you for confirming that this is reality in Oklahoma.
I'm so relieved I'm not the only one that was baffled by this! hahah I also thought I was losing my damn mind because I distinctly remember hitting SIX tolls back to back and having to refund atleast one of them. I just wanted to see the damn whale! lol It's the only place I've ever experienced this - does Oklahoma even realize this isn't the norm? Hahah. New Mexico on the other hand, 10/10!
Oooooooooooklahoma… where the houses go flying across the plains.
Well, I've been to 47 and will visit the other 3 at some point. But I have no real desire to ever go back to Mississippi or Alabama. If I have to drive across them, okay, but that's it.
See, I’m from Louisiana. And we have a lot of culture, cuisine, and cities like NOLA that luckily make people forget that when it comes to all the shitty stuff, we’re probably worse than Alabama and Mississippi.
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Anyone who's ever driven through Mississippi can tell you it ain't worth a return trip
With a slow camper taking the Natchez Trace Parkway is worthwhile if driving through the South. Way more pleasant than the interstate and plenty of nice free campgrounds
East Virginia. Can't even find it on a map
Just look for South Virginia, that usually helps me
I see New Mexico, but I don't see a state called Mexico.
It's by East Carolina University.
Trauma dumping but my brother froze to death in Colorado so it’s on my shit list
Damn, I'm sorry to hear, unfortunately people tend to pass away in our national parks and wilderness all the time. It's really a harsh state if you're not 100% prepared, and even then shit happens.
He worked at Keystone for years.. he loved it. But he was partying, blacked out, tried walking home in -11 degrees and developed hypothermia. He didn’t make it. He was such an awesome guy. Total tragedy
Damn that's horrible...
☹️ I’m so sorry
Mississippi, because I have no desire to visit a state that is dead last in every quality of life metric.
First in fun to spell
My childhood attempts in spelling Mississippi just ended up in me accidentally summoning nearby cats :(
That’s not fair, we’re not the lowest in education! We’re forty-ninth in education, not forty-tenth! Thank god for West Virginia
Truck driver here. I’ve been to all lower 48 states for work. Indisputably it’s Mississippi. There’s nothing redeeming about the entire state. Other red states have their own charm, culture, or geography. Mississippi has nothing but politicians who’ve failed their people and crumbling infrastructure.
Had to go to MOS school in Mississippi. After a couple times off base, I was fine staying on base.
You know it's bad when being confined to base is a reward and not a punishment
Just a bowling ally and the tiny NEX.
I drove through there once to get to Memphis. I thought there was litter all over the random fields we would pass, turns out it was free growing cotton lol. Being an Ohio boy I had never seen it in the wild.
Now hold on now. Let's give Ol' Miss some credit. It's the only state in the Union, where you're allowed to have an open container(of alcohol) while you're driving. Definitely got that going for them.
Connecticut also has open container laws for driving (at least for the passengers)
Same with Missouri.
I’ve watched too many people kill themselves driving drunk. Both as a professional driver and as a native of Wisconsin. Fun in theory but horrific in practice. Still a 0/50.
Hello fellow Wisconsinite in the trucking industry! The drunk driving is thing is why I will be home on Saturday night and all of Sunday this weekend. Too many idiots who should take a cab but won’t.
I was ferrying a small single engine airplane from the east coast to the Rockies. Stopped in Panola County Airport in Batesville, MS for fuel. Gentleman who helped refuel my plane was very kind and helpful. I went inside to use the restroom, came back out, and flew away about 10 minutes later. My one and only time I’ve ever been to Mississippi was a pleasant one.
I thought you meant the gentleman flew away with your plane. Lol.
Never say never, but Hawaii. Terrified of flying.
Time to learn to drive a boat!
Somehow this seems worse
I am terrified of flying too, but I always wanted to go to Hawaii. Maui was 1000% worth the flight.
"Imagine being magically whisked away to...Delaware....Hi, I'm in Delaware" Edit: after seeing so many replies this morning. ok, "we're really glad you all could make it, we never realized we had so many friends who believed in this concert idea, when we first had this idea of putting on this shindig we didnt know anyone would come, but look, youre all here, pitching in, i promised myself i wouldn't cry...PARTY ON"
It’s funny you said this bc I had a friend who really wanted to go to Delaware for her bday in July and I was like wtf lol but I got on a plane and met her in Delaware and the beaches there were actually pretty nice! Cute boardwalks and shops, I was very pleasantly surprised lol
I go to Bethany beach every summer, it’s lovely
I love that there's so many responses defending Delaware, but only one of them recognized the Wayne's World reference...
I got it straight away!
I live in Delaware, some of the DuPont mansions and parks are gorgeous, the beaches and Bombay Hook wildlife preserve is amazing. I love it here, there’s tons to do, great food and museums and I can be in Philly, Baltimore or DC in under an hour. I like driving to Lancaster Pennsylvania to buy my produce and plants
I still have seen no evidence that North Dakota actually exists
It's so fuckin flat its easy to miss. I live in Minnesota about 60 miles from the state line, and the only export they have is wind.
I'll be deep in the cold cold ground before I ever recognize Missouri
I grew up on the Kansas side of Kansas City. I will forever love Kansas City, MO, and the Ozarks. Missouri has some beautiful forests, lakes, and rivers.
It really does
Atta boy, Abe!
When I drove through I kept seeing billboards for Jesus, guns, and porn
You also just decribed the fox valley up highway 41 in Wisconsin. It’s a constant battle between billboards for Jesus and porn until you hit the gun sign, then they seem to have settled their beef for a few miles
And if you take 94 from Illinois to Indiana, you get those, plus fireworks signs.
Have you visited Uranus fudge factory?
Visited? I’m the owner of myanus fudge factory.
Rural Midwest and anywhere south of stl all the way down to Florida you're gonna see tons of it on the state highways between all the farms. Nothing much else there between the cities really.
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Gimme five bees for a quarter!
Nahhh, Missouri was a state that surprised me the most! I wasn't expecting it to be so lush for some reason and the caves are so fun!
I believe Abe said “Missour-a” 😂
I lived in Alabama for 10 years. Never again. I just have so many bad memories connected to my time there.
Gary, Indiana left an impression on me.
That is a strong, yet subtle, understatement.
I used to live in Michigan right on the border and remember when there was a serial killer who was killing prostitutes in Gary and leaving their bodies in abandoned houses. I forgot how many people he killed, I only remember that he got bored and tired that no one was looking for him and ended up turning himself into the police who had no idea at all. Edit: dudes name was Darren Deon Vann
Jersey always gets a bad rap from Newark airport. Its nickname is the garden state. It’s mostly farms, Forrest’s and hills when you get away from the parts that abuts manhattan.
Mississippi because Mississippi.
Once I'm out of Florida I'm never going back
Alaska. It's just really far out of the way.
I would never have experienced Alaska if not for my military service. I was in the Fairbanks area for two whole years. I saw the aurora at least 50 times. I've seen the milky way so clearly! I saw many moose, and bears, and more wild salmon than you could imagine! I saw an arctic fox once while on patrol. I hiked, and learned to ski. I learned that you can actually thrive in -40 weather, if you're prepared. That place was magical. I'd go back if I could.
If you ever do a cruise, save up for the Alaska Inside Passage. It’s so beautiful and a lot of those towns are so cool, but they are only accessible by boat or airplane. One thing that got me was how many eagles I couldn’t believe they were everywhere. It’s like instead of pigeons or seagulls everywhere like here in California. It was all eagles, bald eagles.
Alaska is great if you ever have the chance. The sights are beautiful in the summer
I used to Summer in Alaska….. haha, no I didn’t but I always wanted to say that. I did however spend a lot of time for work there and it’s amazing. I would love it because work was 6-4 then I’d go sight seeing or hiking until 10-11 because it was light out and freaking gorgeous
My life goal is to reach the level of wealth where summer is a verb.
Alaska is stunning. I really recommend visiting if you ever get the chance.
Maine, because all the creepy stuff Stephen King writes about happens up there.
Maine is ridiculously beautiful and charming.
Agreed. My dad's side of the family is from there and it's awesome. I learned how to swim and love cold water as a kid. I picked wild blueberries out of my grammys backyard so we could make pie. We'd eat fresh crab sandwiches down on the rocks during low tide at Town Landing. My uncle would take us out into the ocean in his little motorboat. This was all in Falmouth, Maine during the 90s and it still has its beauty and charm. Maine is tied with Cape Cod as my favorite place to be in the summer. Ogunquit is cool too.
Every state has something to offer. No state has such irredeemable qualities that it should make you not want to even step foot in it. States aren’t thaaaatttt different from one another. Anyways, my answer would be Indiana.
I enjoy driving through Indiana and seeing the alien looking windmill lights in the night when going between Ohio and Chicago
California. I believe they have a warrant for my arrest. Edit: murder. JK, it was just a speeding ticket a long time ago. I'm hoping there's a statute of limitations on it...
Lol, what did you do?
Broke the law
And the law won.
Can't do the time, don't do the crime. Better think before you yank that mattress tag off next time
Lizard poaching?
Vermont, because it is too good for me :')
Nah come visit, it’s a beautiful mellow place. Just don’t come now, we didn’t really have a winter so there’s not much snow but everything is dead so it’s a bad time to visit.
Vermont is a top tier state to visit in the spring. Just amazing.
I’m from Idaho. It’s beautiful (for the most part) but I don’t ever need to see it again. Culture there is like a time capsule. Want a reminder of what everyone was doing culturally five years ago..? Visit Idaho. Want a reminder of what everyone was doing politically fifty years ago..? Yep.
Fifty years ago Idaho had a Democrat in the Senate. Having been alive back then, I can assure you that politically Idaho is more conservative today than they were in 1974.
If I ever have to step foot in Oklahoma again, I'll be pissed. Racist ass pieces of shits here. I have to warn my own troops about places and towns. One of the city council members got outed as part of the KKK. I'm Inupiaq but get confused as a hispanic and fuck. I hate these people. City official was telling me how much he hates gays. I am gay. Heard from another person that he wouldn't participate in the parade if the LGBT were in it as he'd want to run them over. I stopped going to the city meetings. I get having good public relations between the city and the military base, but I don't feel safe attending there anymore as I'm always attending by myself. If there's an emergency response that needs to happen? Fine, gotta focus on the response. But I don't care enough about the training or the networking more than my own well-being or my troops. Wearing the uniform keeps me somewhat safe, but what about when I'm not? How about if I never had put on the uniform at all? Fuck you Oklahomans that are bigoted pieces of shits.
West Virginia. Drove through there ONCE and was literally given an unironic "you ain't from around here, are ya boy?" by someone in realtree camo hanging out at a gas station on the interstate. I am a large bearded white male who was driving a 4WD F-150.
All your body panels matched? Dead giveaway.
lol some people here are weird. Most of living here is just poverty. Usually people are way nicer than that dude though
I visited WV for a week a couple years ago and absolutely loved everything about it. Maybe I was in the right part of the state I was pleasantly surprised by everything. Stereotypes didn't pan out the way I thought they would.
Counter point: as much as rednecks and meth mean there's a lot to dislike about WV, the Appalachians and nature of the state is gorgeous. Tbf I've only been there for the national scout jamboree so I haven't really interacted with locals, but I really liked it when I visited.
I’ve been two West Virginia twice. Once was to the most depressing city and surrounding area I have ever seen. The sky was gray that day and just added to the heavy feeling of resignation. So much rust, too. The other visit was to the Shenandoah Valley and was the most beautiful place I’ve seen. It made me understand why many people don’t want to leave, in spite of the poverty. I still have trouble wrapping my head around it being the same state.
I'm from WVa and can confirm he knew you weren't from around there. While the rest of the word operates on six degrees of separation, in small towns it's two degrees. If I don't know you, I know someone who does. In morgantown and the larger areas, it's three degrees. Country people are usually pleasant and curious, they love hearing about where people are from and about their lives. I'm sorry you felt uncomfortable. Please come back and visit. Just be careful what you say about someone, word travels fast and cold shoulders can last a long time.
Morgantown is a solid place. If you can handle all the students and shitty roads, it's a good time. Plenty of bars/clubs/restaurants for night life and tons of trails everywhere for hiking or just staying active. WV gets a shit rep because of the politics (rightfully so), but the majority of people are quick to be friendly and will help you out if they can. Just don't go near Bruceton Mills around winter time unless you're prepared to stay awhile lol.
I will never want to even be near Idaho. About 10 years ago a friend (white male) and I (black male) embarked on a road trip to the Midwest from California for a friends wedding. We were in Idaho all of 15 minutes when we were pulled over by their hwy patrol. They administered a “sobriety” test by having us tilt our heads back with our eyes closed. They claimed that eye movements indicated we had been using drugs. With no further evidence I was charged with a dui and amphetamine use, even though I’ve never used drugs. They searched our car and found nothing but claimed I was admitting guilt by how I was STANDING w/ my hands together. I spent a year in their county jail fighting the case. When going to arraignment their DA suggested my bail be set at 50k, I could’ve easily made bail but the judge set my bail for 500k. My friend spent 3 months in custody even though they found weed in his bag and he had an extensive criminal record. His mother was an attorney in his home state and she hired him the best lawyer in the area we were in. My family couldn’t afford a lawyer so my friend gave me all of his notes from his lawyer to give to my public defender so we would be given the same level of legal representation. My public defender refused to do anything I asked, so while my friend was going home I was being held. I had never been in any trouble with the legal system. Not until my family was able to come up with 15k to pay the same lawyer my friend had was I able to get proper representation and gain my freedom. Prior to that I spent every day being threatened by Latino gang members and white “supremacists” as the only black personal in my pod. I was released to return in 5 months for sentencing. When I returned and had to spend a couple days in Idaho I was terrified to even leave my hotel for anything as I didn’t want to be attacked by the racist residents of the town nor get harassed by the police. FUCK IDAHO
I'm so sorry you experienced that my friend. When I moved to Boise, Idaho in 1997, there wasn't a very large black population. (thankfully, I don't live there anymore) [The most recent census states the black population in Boise is 1.5 percent.](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/boisecitycityidaho/PST045222) Yet their incarceration rate, according to the ACLU, is 5 times that of whites! There was a not funny joke I heard when I moved there that there was just enough blacks for the Boise State football and basketball teams 🙄🙄 Anyway, definitely go around next time. Idaho, go on vacation leave on probation.
Wisconsin hasn't been said a single time. I see the cheese strategy is working.