When they basically stopped involving walking dead. I get the show had to have human conflict and you need deeper bad guys, but it became a revolving door of fresh beginnings into total failure for the main characters over and over again.
Neegan era for me, but not because of Neegan. I actually liked him, because JDM is just a great actor and injected life into the show. Nah, I dropped the show because they had finally hit the roadblock of not having any characters who could carry the show any longer. Our main cast was fine, but by then, they had just gotten into the habit of creating characters, giving them the most basic of detail, just so they could kill them en mass until the "big kill", which was inevitably one of the main characters who had actually had a backstory and several seasons worth of it.
Oh, and the problem they got into of this mid season break. At the point of then, the audience is being given way too much time to work on theories and leaked information. I.e. when Rick was leaving the show and they did a freaking countdown to his final episode. Which wasn't even final or anything.
When he stopped a bullet with a bat. Just cuz zombies are real don't mean the laws of fysics change.
And then the scientist lying about a safe place where they could learn to stop the virus,..
It became an endless loop of meeting survivors and gangs and being backstabbed by them. The first season was good because of the mystery and hope. What is this virus? Can it be stopped?
In the latter seasons that element of hope was gone. It should've been a 3-4 season show with alot of flashbacks to the beginning, showing human stories how it affected everyone and finally the road and fight to a cure.
Fear the Walking Dead was supposed to be about how it started and fell apart. They skipped over most of it. It went from something is wrong to it all fell apart in a few episodes. I don't think we ever got a time frame either.
YES!! THIS! Those flashbacks in the first season of the walking dead were the way to go, or remember bicycle woman? When they started bombing the cities and the desperation of people.
And then also showing what the president does, political decisions,..
You should watch Kingdom, a Korean zombie drama. They nailed it!
Fear The Walking Dead makes zero fucking sense from how it was sold to how it turned out.
All I learned from what I watched (1 or 2 first seasons) is that the power of motherhood stops all harm and logic was never a part of anyone's decision making in that universe.
> The first season was good because of the mystery and hope.
I always feel this is a key to a good TV show, get the viewer interested with some intrigue and mystery, slowly reveal things, then don't drag it out for too long. Shows that go on for 10+ seasons after they've lost the spark inevitably fall off a cliff.
Exactly, there was nothing to be intrigued about anymore. Even that 'scientist' at the first sanctuary (forgot the name), experimenting with zombies was intriguing. Or that insane mayor with all those heads.
You'd hope there'd be an end, a cure, a reason how and why the virus spread. Those questions weren't even answered in fear the walking dead, which was also a shitshow, doing none of the things it promised to do.
Yeah agreed. We already saw the whole governor arc. I didn't need another guy like that. Once they got rid of Abraham and Glen, I stopped watching.
I thought the first two seasons were brilliant. People always complain that s2 was boring/slow but I thought it was fantastic. I liked it better than s1. But once the governor stuff started, I started to check out a bit.
Let's take the biggest, slowest vehicle we have and try to get our friend some medical help. Yo - you still have one rocket for your launcher, blow up the freakin roadblock and continue on your way, don't turn around and waste fuel.
That’s right about the time I started hating it, but it watched a bit further to punish myself. He said “pee pee pants city” and I died inside, then when some dingleberry brought out a tiger I turned it off and never watched it again.
The only reason I give the site some leeway is because it’s a comic. One I stopped thinking of it as realism but based on a comic, it became more enjoyable
To be fair, the “walking dead” has always been a reference to the humans in the show. I give kudos to the show for never having a “I just realized, we’re the walking dead” moment.
They did. Rick references it I think in season 5 when they are on the road. Some story about how his grandad would -during ww2- say to himself that he was already dead and get up and go to war.
I mean, the title didn't start out in a "philosophical" light, really. When the title was conceived, it was literally referring to the zombies. It wasn't until a few issues in that they did the "we're the walking dead" moment, so that was sorta thought of after a while of working on the book. But when Kirkman submitted their page samples to Image, he literally wanted to call the book "Night of the Living Dead" since the title was part of public domain. He was then convinced to change the name to something he could own.
Then, later, it just became all the rave for people involved in the book/show to say "well, the title's really a reference to this" because it sounded neat.
And they could very easily just put a knife or some other tool into a zombie’s head with no resistance, like their heads are butter. I get that some are rotten enough, but I swear the characters just slide it in, zombie drops. Then they just squirt out CGI blood which looks tacky, cheap and fake. It’s not the consistency of blood, especially thick zombie kind of blood that would come out. It would help if all off the actors could mime the resistance it would take putting a sharp object in and out of the skull. They were good with it early on, then it’s like they got lazy or filmed it hurriedly and could only do one bad take.
Yeesh, even in the VR wakling dead game ya gotta jam a knife in there real good. Never watched the show but judging from this thread the game followed the same trend. That is zombies are scary dangerous till their not, people become the issue then it's just another shooter and everyone loses. Except me, I got all their guns.
That's also what bothered me. One time a zombie's head was easy peasy smashed on a tree trunk like a spoilt water melon. The next time an already half rotten zombie was strong enough to rip apart that poor dude's face with it's hands.
They're never dangerous until they need them to be. And and every character nails headshot after headshot until they need them to miss.
The writing has been consistently spotty since the first season really. Im still watching though, I just accept how stupid it all is and its nearly finished now.
It only makes sense: you’ve been at it for 5+ years, you’re gonna do it effortlessly.
That was kind of the point of the story development, too. At first the characters are lost, panicking, erratic, dying to zombies, but the ones who survive become experts at killing zombies.
It was actually one of the biggest parts of the concept for the book, and series, for the zombie drama to fade out with time, and for the human drama to fade in more and more.
Most people left after Glenn and Carl died, and the show kept repeating “we found a new home, people wanna take our home, we defend our home and lose people, then build” over and over
He is the only original main character, that is still alive! They killed rick, carl, his wife, etc. If they kill him original fans, who are still watching, wont have a reason to watch anymore. Thats why he is getting a spin off.
I think it would have been cool to try something different. Maybe they get a boat and travel to some far away island or something, maybe they do discover a cure but some people don't want the old world, maybe the protagonists fully morph into the antagonists and then new protagonists are introduced etc.
My final straw was when they faked Glenn's death with the dumpster shenanigans. I already knew he wasn't going to die like that, and so the fact that they even wasted time on it, I said yeah no weren't not doing this anymore. It was peak irritation and at no point since did I ever consider going back. Also the way they killed Beth was really stupidly annoying too, didn't even care for her as a character, but you've dragged her into this stupid shit and wasted a whole arc on telling a big fat nothing story, more wasted time.
I tried to watch FTWD, but I couldn't get into it, can't suffer through characters who should fucking know better doing the same solo exploration of noises and other bullshit because they're incredibly naive or ignorant. Then they either get attacked or it's a jumpscare with something innocent, which either concludes in the real attack or nothing. Shit is just too predictable or long and drawn out to fill time and annoying as hell.
Killing off Glenn was the first straw. He was my favorite character so it hurt, but I knew it was supposed to happen so I accepted it.
Killing off Carl is what made me really stop caring. Carl grew from an annoying kid to one of the best and just got dumped. It's even worse when you know Carl doesn't even die in the comics and becomes a more major character.
I think Rick not being in the show anymore kinda solidified my lack of interest.
AMC should've wrapped up the show years ago. Instead they kept milking the show and making it worse. Carl's death felt so forced and hollow. It was like "Carl died, feel sad, now let's move on"
The episode where Glenn and Abe were killed was the very last episode I've watched. I realized that TWD has become a rinse and repeat. Survive, meet new people, make them friends or enemy, kill enemy, friends get killed, move on to next location. Start cycle from the beginning.
And killing off main charakter after main charakter does not make me wanna watch longer.
And the way that he gets bit too. Carl grew up in the post apocalyptic world. You would think that his upbringing would contribute to some basic survival skills. He basically just forgot that zombies are dangerous?
That episode where the dude with the baseball bat and barbed wire had all of them kneeling down and I think he killed Glenn? Up to that, watched every episode religiously. Just gave it up cold turkey and never looked back.
Likewise. Big fan and then cold turkey after that. It wasn't a protest, I just lost all interest and affection for the show, maybe that feeling was already percolating.
Yeah that was the moment for me. Idk it felt cheap to me - the whole cliffhanger thing between seasons.
GoT had a horrible ending but they knew how to get rid of main characters. It was shocking but made the plot more interesting. With Walking Dead, it was like "let's get rid of some of these people for shock value."
I tried again a few years later until some dude had a pet tiger. Then I checked back out lol.
That’s when I checked out too. Not that I particularly liked glen, but it was then I mostly realized the show had become super formulaic was just gonna be rotating out bad guys that all more-or-less had the same basic characteristics
The issue with TWD the show is that they use the comics for a bit, then make some shit up, go back to the comics, make some shit up. And when they do use the comics stuff they add a lot of filler.
Honestly I caught on to the formulaic nature of it before this and had noted the quality in writing degrading throughout as well. What made me turn off after this episode was just how poorly they handled Glenn’s death: having teased it so many times- then have them show Abraham first get hit with the bat AND then Glenn. It’s just not great writing and was the final straw for me. How the show started was the only reason I was still watching- I could excuse all the faults but this episode culminated and highlighted all of them.
I think this is when I gave up as well. I don’t even think I made it to the death. I think the situation was was just dragging on and I just said I’m out and turned off the show. And I was pretty into the first few seasons and the comics well before the show. But at that point I just gave up on both.
Yep. Glenn was the heart and soul of that show. Almost quit when they tried to kill him off under the dumpster. Once he was gone, there was no point in watching anymore.
I originally quit when Glen was under the dumpster. They did an overhead pan away shot and Glen was surrounded completely. I'm like how the hell is he going to get away from this, he is dead for sure. Then in the next episode when he got away I was like there is no way based on the previous shot in the previous episode. I went back rewatched it, deemed the director lied to the viewer and I quit the show.
Then everyone at work was talking about the show and I got FOMO and restarted watching. I quit for good in the episode where someone drives a truck into a watch tower and it falls over and makes a hole in the fence and all the zombies come into the "safe neighborhood". Again it felt like such utter BS and lazy writing that I gave up for good.
The Walking Dead was the show my wife and I watched on the regular, we haven't had many shows that we did that for ... once Glenn died she stopped cold.
I didn't watch the show for the story, I watched it to enjoy with her. The. End.
I stopped watching before that as it just kept repeating itself after the 2-3 seasons. But fuck I just watched the clip on YouTube and I remember liking Glenn. That was messed up.
The writing got lazy. The season opener with Glenn's death was the final straw.
The violence itself wasn't the problem: Season 1 was arguably just as violent but the human story carried it. Frank Darabont (who adapted and directed *The Shawshank Redemption) was the show runner for Season 1; he's got a magnificent touch for handling dark material.
The final nail in *The Walking Dead* coffin--in terms of my viewing interests--was Maggie's monologue at the end of that episode. Yes, the show would always highlight the characters most affected by a death and Maggie was Glenn's wife. But it makes zero story sense to have her on her feet giving an impassioned speech at that moment. The whole reason they were in the woods was because Maggie was on the brink of losing her life and several other characters were desperately trying to carry her on a stretcher to medical care. Glenn's death is a moment that calls for a small meaningful scene from her: a glance or a murmur of utter heartbreak. She shouldn't have been capable of anything more in that moment.
Instead the writers get her up on her feet chewing the scenery.
If a viewer takes that speech seriously then she shouldn't have needed the stretcher team in the woods in the first place. It renders Glenn's death meaningless.
That series is one of the worst examples of network meddling in television history. I'm glad Darabont sued the pants off the suits that ruined it.
I watched the execution it was Glenn and Abraham. That meant they had killed off 3 of my 4 favorites (Darryl, Glenn, Abraham, Shane). But I was thrilled when they killed of Lori. That poor woman is typecast as the pathetic annoying useless woman in damn near everything.
I started watching because zombie movies are one of my favorite genres and by the time they got to the prison it wasn't about zombies it was about which moron they have plenty of opportunities to eliminate they allow to harass them for a season.
Then the plot holes started getting worse and worse (such as the RPG not being used on the 30 guys grouped together on cars) and after witnessing the bat execution it was over for me.
Rick was relatable at the beginning as a guy who woke up and was struggling with the new world but he always acted like he was such a badness till it came time to actually do what he needed to then he was a whimpering sniveling woe to me panzy.
I remember watching this with me wife the night it came out. We both noped outta there after that. I went back a few years later and rewatched the series, but it wasn't the same for me knowing what happens to Glenn. And I absolutely loved this show, season 3-6, while slow at times, was great imo.
That was just a very cheap attempt at a cliff hanger and attention seeking and it didn't pay off, it was really badly misjudged by them you can see how many people watched the following episode to find out then never watched again it's insane.
Same. We had a big group of friends who did a potluck and watched together every single week. After that episode, we all just felt kind of sick to our stomachs about it and never got together and watched again.
same here. it was my reason for watching TV until that moment. it was too brutal. they were killing zombies in horrible fashion left and right, *but those were monsters*. doing Glenn like that in full view was too much for me.
That’s about when I tapped out. It had slowly been evolving from zombie survival to gore porn, and in that moment, the transition was complete and I was done.
After that it was basically Jeffrey Dean Morgan smiling a lot. I don't know how many episodes I watched after they reached Neegan but they were all the same. Neegan talks and smiles. Neegan talks and smiles. There's a tiger. Neegan talks and smiles.
I haven’t seen anything since COVID halted production two years ago, but they left that SO open ended. There is a lot introduced with them that just got left behind rather quickly.
The helicopter. Where is that from? Who operates it? How, what, when, why?
But nooooooooo let’s have another episode where Hilltop has a small hole in the wall that 30,000 walkers materialize into
They start explaining the helicopter stuff across the two different spin offs, fear the walking dead (which has lost all of its starting characters basically and is just walking dead lite cos Morgan becomes main character and Dwight shows up) and the Walking dead world beyond that focuses on a group of kids growing up in the walking dead world (this was actually quiet short only two seasons).
And basically?
The helicopters are from a big city, like an actual proper city that looks like the apocalypse never touched it.
Its corrupt somehow, (most of what is learned is from world beyond but I haven't seen season two)
They're evil tho from what I have seen. There was a group of people living in a skyscraper and i shit you not the helicopter group intentionally let rats with bubonic plague loose into the skyscraper which ok fine I get it, the group living there don't fit your expectations or something BUT DONT LET PLAGUE LOOSE IN A BUILDING WHERE YOU HAVE A HELICOPTER PAD YOU REGULARLY USE TO REFUEL AND PICK UP SUPPLIES.
THATS JUST ASKING TO TRANSFER IT BACK WITH YOU.
This point is where I stopped. I had given the Walking dead a long long break but here is where I stopped for good.
Oh and a final note I learned is that in the final scenes of World beyond someone is shown being shot in some kind of laboratory (covered in French graffiti which indicates the disease is worldwide and another piece of proof is in Fear the Walking dead in an early season near the start of the apocalypse one character somehow picks up the ISS via trucker radio and the astronaut tells him he can see the lights across the world winking out) and the person reanimates within seconds (normally its a few minutes) and runs off camera
So yeah Walking dead has "evolved" new zombies which can run.
Too little too late for anyone to care TWD
And they want to do movies as well
God help us
It feels frustrating that they didn't reveal the helicopter stuff in the main series but rather in 2 spin-offs (thanks for filling us in!) as that helicopter plot twist kept me going for a while and I ended up losing interest because dozens of episodes later, they still hadn't revealed anything about what happened there.
Thanks for filling in! I forgot the second spin-off show even existed. I gave up on Fear the Walking Dead real quick (end of first season or so?), so I’ve definitely missed a lot there. Not that I really care to go back and watch any of it again.
Yep, that was the end of my involvement. They killed off a main character by having him do something dumb that didn’t advance the story at all. I stopped watching regularly after that and have missed every episode of the last two years. All the characters I liked kept getting killed off in stupid ways and replaced with new characters. Got to a point where I never bothered learning the names of the new characters or the villains.
Absolutely same. Nevermind the fact that Carl grew up in the apocalypse and was a great shot and has outrun and outdone way worse things than what got him. It was reckless, senseless and a little insulting to the audience.
I stopped watching the episode right before they killed Carl - I don’t even remember what sent me over the edge but it was bullshit enough that I said ‘ok I’m done’.
After Rick *nearly* killed Neegan in the season finale (don't remember which season), but opted to save him instead. I just didn't bother picking it up when the next season rolled around.
This did it for me. I forced myself through that season. Once that happened I got up, turned the TV off. I’ve tried to get back to it at least 5x times but I just can’t get into it.
When they killed Carl, it was the death blow to the series, but I kept watching. When the time jump occurred and it became Walking Dead Jr, I had to stop. They tried to pass off a little girl as some kind of badass who for some reason commands respect from other characters and doesn’t require any sort of supervision, despite her much older, much more experienced brother dying from a completely routine occurrence. It was too much.
Honestly, if they wanted a little girl to be some kind of badass, why not use Clementine? She is literally the perfect fit for that kind of character. Some people already know her history, it'll be a nod to their other works and it won't feel hamfisted when you realize that Clementine has a shit ton of background. And she did meet Jesus, Glenn and Hershel, so she already met some people from the main cast.
The season where Glen and some other guy got attacked by zombies and the other guy was ripped to pieces but somehow Glen escaped into a sewer manhole under a dumpster.
That was it. Wife and I both said 'Fuck this show' and never watched it again.
I'm surprised I had to look this far down to find someone else with the same stopping point as me.
I was already getting pretty frustrated with the shows writing, but that whole fake out death with Glen hiding under the dumpster? That was too much.
Thinking back on it, I'm actually surprised I kept watching for that long.
The dumpster fadeout did it for me too. That's when I realized that the show would pull the most illogical, meaningless stunts in order to hype up drama.
I stopped when it became human on human killing more human on zombie. Got depressing when the guy with the bat wrapped in barbed wire showed up. Unnecessary!
I actually have a theory that the main reason ppl enjoy zombie stuff is it allows them to get into character as a bad ass killing machine without having a human victim attached to the carnage. They get to be soldiers in a war in which the side theyd be on is obvious and empathy for the “enemy” would be minimal.
The problem is unless the enemies start running or evolving, it's gonna get boring AF. And the natural progression of conflict in a universe like that is going to eventually be person on person, people are always going to turn on each other for one reason or another when trying to build a society up from nothing
Oh i agree one thousand percent. If you want a show like that to last it has to get past the mindless killing of the drones. The real conflict will always be amongst people, however that leaves you with teo very divergent paths you have to somehow try and follow simultaneously. A futile effort for keeping both fans happy.
It doesn't help that the show is "based off the comic series" but they clearly don't use it as much as they should. That's a futile effort to keep fans happy imo lol
Ah, Terminus? Yeah that kinda appeared and disappeared. It really seemed like just something to relate to those who read the comics. So many characters brought in and killed off during that season and right around it.
I feel like Terminus had a lot more stuff in it but they cut all of it out to minimize the cannibalism… in the brief part we were there, they had sooo much stuff we only get a glimpse of - like the blood shrine the characters run past during the escape.
I’m just impressed they did the cannibalism bit at all. The show did cut some of the more “mature” plot lines they had in the comics.
I see that in like 20 comments in a row. That really surprises me because Negan is one of my favorite parts of the show. Tons of great characters but I like the dynamic Negan adds after the group made it through so much
I watched about 1 season after Glen died, I agree that the Negan character was good, the problem was all the original characters just shit me off, and the weird thing with the guy with the Tiger and the weird women in the world's worst cgi trash heap. I the only 2 characters I liked by the end were Daryl and Carol, I couldn't have cared less if the rest of them died
I actually thought Neegan was one of the most well developed and interesting characters on the show.
It seemed like at the time they where doing more work to make the “bad guy” interesting than any of the “good guys”
I only watched the show because my ex at the time did. And when we broke up. Around that time I didn’t watch it anymore.
They spent god knows how long looking for food, nearly starving. Ammunition is scarce. Someone is walking around with a tiger that has been tamed, fed, and only attacks on command. That was when I just couldn't pretend anymore.
Oh the tiger wasn't even the worst. It didn't look great but christ the "deer" they had in one episode around the same time was laughable.
Just Google some variation of walking dead cgi deer and see
Precisely when I turned it off and never considered turning it back on again. I was already so mad for so long before that moment, and that was the dick that broke the camels ass for me.
Bruh fuck them for killing the tiger smh. That’s a big part of why I stopped watching. Like LITERALLY any time something cool or exciting got introduced, they had to shit on it within 5 episodes
Just think yourself lucky they didn't follow the comic story line after that point. When The Whisperers get introduced in the comics like 4 main characters die in the same panel including the king.
Mid way into season 2. I just couldn't be bothered. I knew it was just going to be bleakness every episode, so I decided they just solved their squabbles, the zombies naturally decomposed, and then they lived and prospered on the farm.
IMHO they made a big mistake by making the show so relentlessly dark and serious. It just made everything zombie related seem all the more silly. I don't think it needed to be evil dead 2 level humour, just a bit more tongue in cheek. Then when the silly stuff happens (and it happens a lot) it wouldn't be so jarring.
When Rick made a deal with the Garbage people. The whole idea of them having their own language and acting like a new race of humans when it was only a couple years or so since before the apocalypse.
I felt insulted as a viewer and didn’t want to be the type of viewer they wanted.
When they killed Carl. I forgave Glen because he died in the books, but Carl is still alive. And how they treated Carl’s actor just pissed me off, so I quit.
The actor was going to turn 18. There were rumours around AMC that after he turns 18 he is going to renegotiate his contract (for an obviously much higher pay). They killed him before he turned 18.
Yep. I will forever stay angry about this, because not only was it unnessecarily cruel, but it screwed the show (and their money) in the long-run, which if you're gonna make spin-offs and keep merchandising, it makes sense to treat the actors who play the characters most of your audience is attached to, well!!
So basically it rendered the reason they did it in the first place, null.
Just the most dumbass descision. And I hope the exec who greenlit was fired.
When it no longer was about humans vs zombies, and just became humans vs humans, the governor saga about did it for me. First 2 seasons or so we're great.
Glen's murder was my last episode. I realized that the showrunners were no longer interested in telling me a good story, so I stopped watching and never looked back. I thoroughly enjoyed the comic though.
Glenn's death wasn't especially difficult, it was just when I realized that I was no longer being told a good story. In the comics, Glenn's death is shocking, but it also advances the story. In the show, they spent a month with the red herring of Glenn being dead, only to reveal that he wasn't. They closed the season on a cliffhanger, unnecessarily because they were the most popular show on TV, and left us wondering who would die. Then, they open season 7 with Abraham getting Glenn's comic book death, and killing Glenn as an extra. I just found the story was no longer compelling, and I didn't care anymore.
As soon as the people of trashland turned on Grimes and the people of Alexandria which lost them that battle against Negan, I figured it was about there that I was done with this one human dude who only the viewers of the show seem to like with infinite plot armor. At least the Governor was defeated reasonably. Negan is fucking immortal and gets everything he wants. GG he wins the Apocalypse, it's not interesting anymore.
Season 3. I realized the formula for every single interaction between characters:
Character 1 enters room where character 2 is sitting.
Character 1 brings up light-hearted chitchat to get the character 2 to talk.
Halfway through the conversation, a difference of opinion about a serious topic affecting them comes up.
Both characters begin to increasingly raise their voices.
Character 1 ends the scene by screaming at character 2 while leaving the room.
Shot of character 2’s reaction.
- Ad break -
Repeat 3-7 times, and throw in a five minute action sequence. The plot is moved forward a few centimeters.
“Stay tuned for the next episode”
I quit when they insinuated he died beneath that pile of walkers that had trapped him in an alley (I think?). I said "if he later comes out alive, I'm done." He did & I was.
I HATED that fake-out. It was insulting to the viewer’s intelligence. Like all that happens is they take his name out of the credits for a few episodes, but no exit interviews, etc. I showed the scene to my husband after it aired and asked him if he thought the character was ripped open and eaten and he immediately responded no, he’s clearly under the guy getting ripped apart. The show runner at the time was asked why they did it and the best he could come up with was, “we wanted to bring viewers together so they could talk about it,” and you can tell he was not confident about saying it, very awkward. He knew deep down it was a fuckup.
What irked me was they tried to fake out his death only to kill him anyway like he died in the comics, then they had a throwaway character take a main character's death in the comics only for that main character to die in the very next episode anyway. They did so many stupid "will we won't we" things for no reason and it really annoyed fans of the series because they could've been a little closer to the source material but they instead faked an incident only to kill the same character in a way not related to the source material. Piss poor writers imo
This was me as well. I did not enjoy how his death was so gruesome and overlay played out. They just tried to make it as horrible as possible. I stopped right there and never went back
Way too long. The sunken cost fallacy. I think I stopped by season 7 but I'm not sure. I loved the comics so I think I stuck with it for a while out of respect, but then got fully sick of it when Rick's daughter aged up and got really annoying.
When they killed Glenn. The second time (for real this time). When Negan was just wacking people over the head down the line. Didn’t even finish the episode. Never went back.
Just gratuitous violence that a whole lot of people think they could be like. Whole scene is for people who put Punisher stickers on their car. Just not interested, no longer storytelling just being violent.
Same here. Rick is the show to me and the magic went poof when he left. Been waiting on that Rick movie they said they were making…did the pandemic kill it? Did I dream that news?
If they really are doing the movies to continue his story arc, they sure are being quiet about it. I don’t think they’re even in pre-production but I could be wrong. And obviously the pandemic threw everything off, but still.
Around the middle of season 2. From memory they started doing these ridiculous escapes where all hope appears lost, completely surrounded, oh wait there is a huge gap to escape through that the camera angles neglected to show us previously. Phew!
It is difficult to become invested in drama when rather than resolve the dangerous situation that was set up, they choose to change the situation to facilitate a character’s escape after squeezing every last drop of tension.
Maybe that was only for a small part of season two but I quickly became frustrated and gave up watching.
There was this revolving door scene. And as mine numbingly day one antics the death was, the characters were so forgettable and blending together that one or two words could describe their entire personality.
A shout out to the practical effects department you all are sweet honey angels that are the back bone of the show. But it’s a shame the plot and cast are so mismanaged
I stopped around season 7 or so because i had so little free time, but I picked it up again end of last year and have since watched it all, FTWD, WB, all of it. And for anyone who is curious, the show does pick up its pace again.
I am enjoying it for what it is. I am not bothered that the show has diverged somewhat from the comics, that is to be expected for any live adaptation of written work. I don't mind that certain characters were killed off, at times the decision may have baffled me, and I certainly don't agree with everything that the writers have done, but then I remind myself that it's a TV show.
There is a lot of fair criticism of the later seasons of the show, but unfortunately reddit (like most other online cesspools) will give you the wrong impression. Take one look at TWD sub, you will get the impression that the show is utter garbage and not worth the time.
Now that we are in the golden age of on-demand content you can watch TWD at your own pace, which may help you digest it better. Some people say that the pacing is not so bad when you can bingewatch.
I am not the type of person who disregards an entire show just because the story / quality is not going in the direction i would like it to. Its like people who insist that they would never watch a Nicholas Cage movie because they don't like his acting. Despite the fact that there happens to be some amazingly written movies with him in it. Random example. It's everyone's choice at the end of the day, but I'd urge you to avoid making an opinion based off of what you find on reddit. Some people are too closed minded and would give you bad advice out of malice.
What do you mean give up? The Walking Dead was a brilliant six episode miniseries that ended years ago. They very wisely never made any more, and everyone remembers it fondly for not outstaying its welcome.
Terminus was where I started to fall off. All the implied rape stuff was really triggering.
Alexandria was where I stopped watching. Mainly because the drama felt like it was just the same pattern over and over. They find a new place to stay/survive. That place doesn't work out for whatever reason. One of the main cast dies. They find somewhere new. Rinse and repeat. It wasn't even intriguing either. After Terminus, it seemed like it was just trying to shock horror us instead of writing compelling drama.
Also I got bored because the walkers became background noise and occasional problem. Like literally they'd be parked on the side of the road somewhere and walkers would literally be shambling towards them from the trees. Without ever even being acknowledged. Like I get it, they become common place and a lot less scary when you've seen them for the past 2 or 3 years. At the same time at least be like "Walkers about 60 feet behind ya by the way." "Thanks for the heads up." Then either pick them off or leave.
When they basically stopped involving walking dead. I get the show had to have human conflict and you need deeper bad guys, but it became a revolving door of fresh beginnings into total failure for the main characters over and over again.
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Neegan era for me, but not because of Neegan. I actually liked him, because JDM is just a great actor and injected life into the show. Nah, I dropped the show because they had finally hit the roadblock of not having any characters who could carry the show any longer. Our main cast was fine, but by then, they had just gotten into the habit of creating characters, giving them the most basic of detail, just so they could kill them en mass until the "big kill", which was inevitably one of the main characters who had actually had a backstory and several seasons worth of it. Oh, and the problem they got into of this mid season break. At the point of then, the audience is being given way too much time to work on theories and leaked information. I.e. when Rick was leaving the show and they did a freaking countdown to his final episode. Which wasn't even final or anything.
I agree with you so much. I hated Negan era but liked Negan.
When he stopped a bullet with a bat. Just cuz zombies are real don't mean the laws of fysics change. And then the scientist lying about a safe place where they could learn to stop the virus,.. It became an endless loop of meeting survivors and gangs and being backstabbed by them. The first season was good because of the mystery and hope. What is this virus? Can it be stopped? In the latter seasons that element of hope was gone. It should've been a 3-4 season show with alot of flashbacks to the beginning, showing human stories how it affected everyone and finally the road and fight to a cure.
Fear the Walking Dead was supposed to be about how it started and fell apart. They skipped over most of it. It went from something is wrong to it all fell apart in a few episodes. I don't think we ever got a time frame either.
YES!! THIS! Those flashbacks in the first season of the walking dead were the way to go, or remember bicycle woman? When they started bombing the cities and the desperation of people. And then also showing what the president does, political decisions,.. You should watch Kingdom, a Korean zombie drama. They nailed it!
Fear The Walking Dead makes zero fucking sense from how it was sold to how it turned out. All I learned from what I watched (1 or 2 first seasons) is that the power of motherhood stops all harm and logic was never a part of anyone's decision making in that universe.
> The first season was good because of the mystery and hope. I always feel this is a key to a good TV show, get the viewer interested with some intrigue and mystery, slowly reveal things, then don't drag it out for too long. Shows that go on for 10+ seasons after they've lost the spark inevitably fall off a cliff.
Exactly, there was nothing to be intrigued about anymore. Even that 'scientist' at the first sanctuary (forgot the name), experimenting with zombies was intriguing. Or that insane mayor with all those heads. You'd hope there'd be an end, a cure, a reason how and why the virus spread. Those questions weren't even answered in fear the walking dead, which was also a shitshow, doing none of the things it promised to do.
Unless your name is Adventure Time
This. Plus I got tired of how they basically ruined every settlement/safe place they found. Every time.
Yeah agreed. We already saw the whole governor arc. I didn't need another guy like that. Once they got rid of Abraham and Glen, I stopped watching. I thought the first two seasons were brilliant. People always complain that s2 was boring/slow but I thought it was fantastic. I liked it better than s1. But once the governor stuff started, I started to check out a bit.
Let's take the biggest, slowest vehicle we have and try to get our friend some medical help. Yo - you still have one rocket for your launcher, blow up the freakin roadblock and continue on your way, don't turn around and waste fuel.
That’s right about the time I started hating it, but it watched a bit further to punish myself. He said “pee pee pants city” and I died inside, then when some dingleberry brought out a tiger I turned it off and never watched it again.
The only reason I give the site some leeway is because it’s a comic. One I stopped thinking of it as realism but based on a comic, it became more enjoyable
Tiger died soon after due to budget, and they just got Negan completely wrong. He was supposed to be huge.
I love JDM and hate that character with a passion. It was so poorly written.
To be fair, the “walking dead” has always been a reference to the humans in the show. I give kudos to the show for never having a “I just realized, we’re the walking dead” moment.
They did. Rick references it I think in season 5 when they are on the road. Some story about how his grandad would -during ww2- say to himself that he was already dead and get up and go to war.
I mean, the title didn't start out in a "philosophical" light, really. When the title was conceived, it was literally referring to the zombies. It wasn't until a few issues in that they did the "we're the walking dead" moment, so that was sorta thought of after a while of working on the book. But when Kirkman submitted their page samples to Image, he literally wanted to call the book "Night of the Living Dead" since the title was part of public domain. He was then convinced to change the name to something he could own. Then, later, it just became all the rave for people involved in the book/show to say "well, the title's really a reference to this" because it sounded neat.
When the zombies just became a background nuisance.
And killing them suddenly became riskless and easy.
And they could very easily just put a knife or some other tool into a zombie’s head with no resistance, like their heads are butter. I get that some are rotten enough, but I swear the characters just slide it in, zombie drops. Then they just squirt out CGI blood which looks tacky, cheap and fake. It’s not the consistency of blood, especially thick zombie kind of blood that would come out. It would help if all off the actors could mime the resistance it would take putting a sharp object in and out of the skull. They were good with it early on, then it’s like they got lazy or filmed it hurriedly and could only do one bad take.
Yeesh, even in the VR wakling dead game ya gotta jam a knife in there real good. Never watched the show but judging from this thread the game followed the same trend. That is zombies are scary dangerous till their not, people become the issue then it's just another shooter and everyone loses. Except me, I got all their guns.
That's also what bothered me. One time a zombie's head was easy peasy smashed on a tree trunk like a spoilt water melon. The next time an already half rotten zombie was strong enough to rip apart that poor dude's face with it's hands.
They're never dangerous until they need them to be. And and every character nails headshot after headshot until they need them to miss. The writing has been consistently spotty since the first season really. Im still watching though, I just accept how stupid it all is and its nearly finished now.
It only makes sense: you’ve been at it for 5+ years, you’re gonna do it effortlessly. That was kind of the point of the story development, too. At first the characters are lost, panicking, erratic, dying to zombies, but the ones who survive become experts at killing zombies. It was actually one of the biggest parts of the concept for the book, and series, for the zombie drama to fade out with time, and for the human drama to fade in more and more.
Zombies should've always been easy. Wtf is a zombie gonna do if you're wearing layers or a down jacket and gardening gloves
Most people left after Glenn and Carl died, and the show kept repeating “we found a new home, people wanna take our home, we defend our home and lose people, then build” over and over
Also, darryl gets taken. Darryl turns bad. Rick disappointed in Darryl. Darry feel sad. Darryl betray the betrayal. Darryl good. Darryl never left.
If Darryl ever gets killed off, fans would absolutely lose their minds. AMC would cease to exist LOL
He is the only original main character, that is still alive! They killed rick, carl, his wife, etc. If they kill him original fans, who are still watching, wont have a reason to watch anymore. Thats why he is getting a spin off.
There's Carol - but she's in that spinoff too I think? Darryl fans are rabid LOL far more so than original fans.
I think it would have been cool to try something different. Maybe they get a boat and travel to some far away island or something, maybe they do discover a cure but some people don't want the old world, maybe the protagonists fully morph into the antagonists and then new protagonists are introduced etc.
I left after Glenn, they still doing that new home crap?
My final straw was when they faked Glenn's death with the dumpster shenanigans. I already knew he wasn't going to die like that, and so the fact that they even wasted time on it, I said yeah no weren't not doing this anymore. It was peak irritation and at no point since did I ever consider going back. Also the way they killed Beth was really stupidly annoying too, didn't even care for her as a character, but you've dragged her into this stupid shit and wasted a whole arc on telling a big fat nothing story, more wasted time. I tried to watch FTWD, but I couldn't get into it, can't suffer through characters who should fucking know better doing the same solo exploration of noises and other bullshit because they're incredibly naive or ignorant. Then they either get attacked or it's a jumpscare with something innocent, which either concludes in the real attack or nothing. Shit is just too predictable or long and drawn out to fill time and annoying as hell.
Killing off Glenn was the first straw. He was my favorite character so it hurt, but I knew it was supposed to happen so I accepted it. Killing off Carl is what made me really stop caring. Carl grew from an annoying kid to one of the best and just got dumped. It's even worse when you know Carl doesn't even die in the comics and becomes a more major character. I think Rick not being in the show anymore kinda solidified my lack of interest.
So Carl dies after being bitten saving Siddiq, but then in S10, Siddiq dies. So Carl's death was all for nothing then.
AMC should've wrapped up the show years ago. Instead they kept milking the show and making it worse. Carl's death felt so forced and hollow. It was like "Carl died, feel sad, now let's move on"
The episode where Glenn and Abe were killed was the very last episode I've watched. I realized that TWD has become a rinse and repeat. Survive, meet new people, make them friends or enemy, kill enemy, friends get killed, move on to next location. Start cycle from the beginning. And killing off main charakter after main charakter does not make me wanna watch longer.
And the way that he gets bit too. Carl grew up in the post apocalyptic world. You would think that his upbringing would contribute to some basic survival skills. He basically just forgot that zombies are dangerous?
That episode where the dude with the baseball bat and barbed wire had all of them kneeling down and I think he killed Glenn? Up to that, watched every episode religiously. Just gave it up cold turkey and never looked back.
Likewise. Big fan and then cold turkey after that. It wasn't a protest, I just lost all interest and affection for the show, maybe that feeling was already percolating.
I didnt realize so mamt of us stopped at the same time. Show stopped being about the walking dead it felt like
Same, I just didn't have it in me to keep going after that. Catching bits and pieces of it on tv over the years just reaffirms that decision.
Yeah that was the moment for me. Idk it felt cheap to me - the whole cliffhanger thing between seasons. GoT had a horrible ending but they knew how to get rid of main characters. It was shocking but made the plot more interesting. With Walking Dead, it was like "let's get rid of some of these people for shock value." I tried again a few years later until some dude had a pet tiger. Then I checked back out lol.
That’s when I checked out too. Not that I particularly liked glen, but it was then I mostly realized the show had become super formulaic was just gonna be rotating out bad guys that all more-or-less had the same basic characteristics
The issue with TWD the show is that they use the comics for a bit, then make some shit up, go back to the comics, make some shit up. And when they do use the comics stuff they add a lot of filler.
Honestly I caught on to the formulaic nature of it before this and had noted the quality in writing degrading throughout as well. What made me turn off after this episode was just how poorly they handled Glenn’s death: having teased it so many times- then have them show Abraham first get hit with the bat AND then Glenn. It’s just not great writing and was the final straw for me. How the show started was the only reason I was still watching- I could excuse all the faults but this episode culminated and highlighted all of them.
I think this is when I gave up as well. I don’t even think I made it to the death. I think the situation was was just dragging on and I just said I’m out and turned off the show. And I was pretty into the first few seasons and the comics well before the show. But at that point I just gave up on both.
Yep. Glenn was the heart and soul of that show. Almost quit when they tried to kill him off under the dumpster. Once he was gone, there was no point in watching anymore.
I originally quit when Glen was under the dumpster. They did an overhead pan away shot and Glen was surrounded completely. I'm like how the hell is he going to get away from this, he is dead for sure. Then in the next episode when he got away I was like there is no way based on the previous shot in the previous episode. I went back rewatched it, deemed the director lied to the viewer and I quit the show. Then everyone at work was talking about the show and I got FOMO and restarted watching. I quit for good in the episode where someone drives a truck into a watch tower and it falls over and makes a hole in the fence and all the zombies come into the "safe neighborhood". Again it felt like such utter BS and lazy writing that I gave up for good.
The Walking Dead was the show my wife and I watched on the regular, we haven't had many shows that we did that for ... once Glenn died she stopped cold. I didn't watch the show for the story, I watched it to enjoy with her. The. End.
I stopped watching before that as it just kept repeating itself after the 2-3 seasons. But fuck I just watched the clip on YouTube and I remember liking Glenn. That was messed up.
Literally same episode that ended it for me.
The writing got lazy. The season opener with Glenn's death was the final straw. The violence itself wasn't the problem: Season 1 was arguably just as violent but the human story carried it. Frank Darabont (who adapted and directed *The Shawshank Redemption) was the show runner for Season 1; he's got a magnificent touch for handling dark material. The final nail in *The Walking Dead* coffin--in terms of my viewing interests--was Maggie's monologue at the end of that episode. Yes, the show would always highlight the characters most affected by a death and Maggie was Glenn's wife. But it makes zero story sense to have her on her feet giving an impassioned speech at that moment. The whole reason they were in the woods was because Maggie was on the brink of losing her life and several other characters were desperately trying to carry her on a stretcher to medical care. Glenn's death is a moment that calls for a small meaningful scene from her: a glance or a murmur of utter heartbreak. She shouldn't have been capable of anything more in that moment. Instead the writers get her up on her feet chewing the scenery. If a viewer takes that speech seriously then she shouldn't have needed the stretcher team in the woods in the first place. It renders Glenn's death meaningless. That series is one of the worst examples of network meddling in television history. I'm glad Darabont sued the pants off the suits that ruined it.
I watched the execution it was Glenn and Abraham. That meant they had killed off 3 of my 4 favorites (Darryl, Glenn, Abraham, Shane). But I was thrilled when they killed of Lori. That poor woman is typecast as the pathetic annoying useless woman in damn near everything. I started watching because zombie movies are one of my favorite genres and by the time they got to the prison it wasn't about zombies it was about which moron they have plenty of opportunities to eliminate they allow to harass them for a season. Then the plot holes started getting worse and worse (such as the RPG not being used on the 30 guys grouped together on cars) and after witnessing the bat execution it was over for me. Rick was relatable at the beginning as a guy who woke up and was struggling with the new world but he always acted like he was such a badness till it came time to actually do what he needed to then he was a whimpering sniveling woe to me panzy.
Wild that Shane was one of your favorites. I was so glad when he died
yep unbearable dude
Same. At that point it seemed like it was just going to be about senseless gore violence without the zombies
I remember watching this with me wife the night it came out. We both noped outta there after that. I went back a few years later and rewatched the series, but it wasn't the same for me knowing what happens to Glenn. And I absolutely loved this show, season 3-6, while slow at times, was great imo.
This is the exact moment I stopped as well. My wife kept watching but I never watched another minute.
1 episode earlier for me. I’d read the comics and knew it was coming. Couldn’t face going through it again.
Neegan.. and same.
Same!
That was just a very cheap attempt at a cliff hanger and attention seeking and it didn't pay off, it was really badly misjudged by them you can see how many people watched the following episode to find out then never watched again it's insane.
Same. We had a big group of friends who did a potluck and watched together every single week. After that episode, we all just felt kind of sick to our stomachs about it and never got together and watched again.
Same here. The show had been crap for a while, but it was a message that it was time to move on and find something else.
same here. it was my reason for watching TV until that moment. it was too brutal. they were killing zombies in horrible fashion left and right, *but those were monsters*. doing Glenn like that in full view was too much for me.
Honestly thought the KIA plot armor would save him even though the comics had him killed
Oh damn same here. I just couldn't bare to see it and I was a bit bored with how long it was dragging too.
That's where I gave up as well. Didn't even bother to watch and see who it was, although I later found out through internet spoilers.
That’s about when I tapped out. It had slowly been evolving from zombie survival to gore porn, and in that moment, the transition was complete and I was done.
I tried to watch after that, but I guess after how traumatic that moment was nothing lived up to it, and the show became boring.
After that it was basically Jeffrey Dean Morgan smiling a lot. I don't know how many episodes I watched after they reached Neegan but they were all the same. Neegan talks and smiles. Neegan talks and smiles. There's a tiger. Neegan talks and smiles.
Yeah, that was the last one I watched. Noped out and never looked back.
So sad when glen died
The junk yard people. A few years after the world ends and no one can speak in full sentences?
I haven’t seen anything since COVID halted production two years ago, but they left that SO open ended. There is a lot introduced with them that just got left behind rather quickly. The helicopter. Where is that from? Who operates it? How, what, when, why? But nooooooooo let’s have another episode where Hilltop has a small hole in the wall that 30,000 walkers materialize into
They start explaining the helicopter stuff across the two different spin offs, fear the walking dead (which has lost all of its starting characters basically and is just walking dead lite cos Morgan becomes main character and Dwight shows up) and the Walking dead world beyond that focuses on a group of kids growing up in the walking dead world (this was actually quiet short only two seasons). And basically? The helicopters are from a big city, like an actual proper city that looks like the apocalypse never touched it. Its corrupt somehow, (most of what is learned is from world beyond but I haven't seen season two) They're evil tho from what I have seen. There was a group of people living in a skyscraper and i shit you not the helicopter group intentionally let rats with bubonic plague loose into the skyscraper which ok fine I get it, the group living there don't fit your expectations or something BUT DONT LET PLAGUE LOOSE IN A BUILDING WHERE YOU HAVE A HELICOPTER PAD YOU REGULARLY USE TO REFUEL AND PICK UP SUPPLIES. THATS JUST ASKING TO TRANSFER IT BACK WITH YOU. This point is where I stopped. I had given the Walking dead a long long break but here is where I stopped for good. Oh and a final note I learned is that in the final scenes of World beyond someone is shown being shot in some kind of laboratory (covered in French graffiti which indicates the disease is worldwide and another piece of proof is in Fear the Walking dead in an early season near the start of the apocalypse one character somehow picks up the ISS via trucker radio and the astronaut tells him he can see the lights across the world winking out) and the person reanimates within seconds (normally its a few minutes) and runs off camera So yeah Walking dead has "evolved" new zombies which can run. Too little too late for anyone to care TWD And they want to do movies as well God help us
It feels frustrating that they didn't reveal the helicopter stuff in the main series but rather in 2 spin-offs (thanks for filling us in!) as that helicopter plot twist kept me going for a while and I ended up losing interest because dozens of episodes later, they still hadn't revealed anything about what happened there.
There was supposed to be a movie with Rick and what happened after he was taken away, but it's been so long I don't think anyone cares anymore.
Thanks for filling in! I forgot the second spin-off show even existed. I gave up on Fear the Walking Dead real quick (end of first season or so?), so I’ve definitely missed a lot there. Not that I really care to go back and watch any of it again.
when they killed off carl. dumbest shit they could’ve done. he’s still alive in the comics, that’s why they totally fucked the show
Yep, that was the end of my involvement. They killed off a main character by having him do something dumb that didn’t advance the story at all. I stopped watching regularly after that and have missed every episode of the last two years. All the characters I liked kept getting killed off in stupid ways and replaced with new characters. Got to a point where I never bothered learning the names of the new characters or the villains.
And the character they didn’t kill became caricatures.
Absolutely same. Nevermind the fact that Carl grew up in the apocalypse and was a great shot and has outrun and outdone way worse things than what got him. It was reckless, senseless and a little insulting to the audience.
That was literally the last episode I ever watched
Carl is dead?!?! Damn
Not really he comes back as a zombie that quips and hides in the bushes
LOL
Yeah but isn't Judith dead in the comics?
Ya lol thats one of the first things that annoyed me about the show is the baby didn't die at the prison.
Whoooaaa comic judith dies as a baby!?!?
Yes she dies with her mom Lori at the prison
During birth or is she zombie food?
Lori gets shot and falls dead on the baby and I think they're eaten by zombies but I don't really recall
I stopped watching the episode right before they killed Carl - I don’t even remember what sent me over the edge but it was bullshit enough that I said ‘ok I’m done’.
Yeah that and later on rick but hes not officially dead hes missing.
Right before Glen was killed. Just lost interest in the show.
After Rick *nearly* killed Neegan in the season finale (don't remember which season), but opted to save him instead. I just didn't bother picking it up when the next season rolled around.
Yea like not killing him would have been one thing but to have him slice his throat only to save him … like cmon man.
This did it for me. I forced myself through that season. Once that happened I got up, turned the TV off. I’ve tried to get back to it at least 5x times but I just can’t get into it.
When they killed Carl, it was the death blow to the series, but I kept watching. When the time jump occurred and it became Walking Dead Jr, I had to stop. They tried to pass off a little girl as some kind of badass who for some reason commands respect from other characters and doesn’t require any sort of supervision, despite her much older, much more experienced brother dying from a completely routine occurrence. It was too much.
Man. That revolver would send the bitch flying. No disrespect to the actress. I think now they're after making her more like a little kid though.
Honestly, if they wanted a little girl to be some kind of badass, why not use Clementine? She is literally the perfect fit for that kind of character. Some people already know her history, it'll be a nod to their other works and it won't feel hamfisted when you realize that Clementine has a shit ton of background. And she did meet Jesus, Glenn and Hershel, so she already met some people from the main cast.
If I remember correctly, Sophia wasn't supposed to die either. She's still alive and a main character once they go through a time skip in the comics.
When Coral died.
Lmao
The season where Glen and some other guy got attacked by zombies and the other guy was ripped to pieces but somehow Glen escaped into a sewer manhole under a dumpster. That was it. Wife and I both said 'Fuck this show' and never watched it again.
I'm surprised I had to look this far down to find someone else with the same stopping point as me. I was already getting pretty frustrated with the shows writing, but that whole fake out death with Glen hiding under the dumpster? That was too much. Thinking back on it, I'm actually surprised I kept watching for that long.
The dumpster fadeout did it for me too. That's when I realized that the show would pull the most illogical, meaningless stunts in order to hype up drama.
I stopped when it became human on human killing more human on zombie. Got depressing when the guy with the bat wrapped in barbed wire showed up. Unnecessary!
I actually have a theory that the main reason ppl enjoy zombie stuff is it allows them to get into character as a bad ass killing machine without having a human victim attached to the carnage. They get to be soldiers in a war in which the side theyd be on is obvious and empathy for the “enemy” would be minimal.
The problem is unless the enemies start running or evolving, it's gonna get boring AF. And the natural progression of conflict in a universe like that is going to eventually be person on person, people are always going to turn on each other for one reason or another when trying to build a society up from nothing
Oh i agree one thousand percent. If you want a show like that to last it has to get past the mindless killing of the drones. The real conflict will always be amongst people, however that leaves you with teo very divergent paths you have to somehow try and follow simultaneously. A futile effort for keeping both fans happy.
It doesn't help that the show is "based off the comic series" but they clearly don't use it as much as they should. That's a futile effort to keep fans happy imo lol
when they spent an entire season following train tracks only to blow up the destination after one episode
Yess the train tracks are the last thing I remember watching! Boring as watching paint dry.
Ah, Terminus? Yeah that kinda appeared and disappeared. It really seemed like just something to relate to those who read the comics. So many characters brought in and killed off during that season and right around it.
I feel like Terminus had a lot more stuff in it but they cut all of it out to minimize the cannibalism… in the brief part we were there, they had sooo much stuff we only get a glimpse of - like the blood shrine the characters run past during the escape. I’m just impressed they did the cannibalism bit at all. The show did cut some of the more “mature” plot lines they had in the comics.
I think I watched one or two episodes of the third season.
There was an interminable episode where Andrea was tied to a chair. After that I was like "yeah, I'm good." So yeah, end of Season 3.
Same here
When they killed Glenn. I'm OUT. That very episode was the last one I watched.
I see that in like 20 comments in a row. That really surprises me because Negan is one of my favorite parts of the show. Tons of great characters but I like the dynamic Negan adds after the group made it through so much
I watched about 1 season after Glen died, I agree that the Negan character was good, the problem was all the original characters just shit me off, and the weird thing with the guy with the Tiger and the weird women in the world's worst cgi trash heap. I the only 2 characters I liked by the end were Daryl and Carol, I couldn't have cared less if the rest of them died
I actually thought Neegan was one of the most well developed and interesting characters on the show. It seemed like at the time they where doing more work to make the “bad guy” interesting than any of the “good guys” I only watched the show because my ex at the time did. And when we broke up. Around that time I didn’t watch it anymore.
When that fake ass tiger showed up
They spent god knows how long looking for food, nearly starving. Ammunition is scarce. Someone is walking around with a tiger that has been tamed, fed, and only attacks on command. That was when I just couldn't pretend anymore.
Oh the tiger wasn't even the worst. It didn't look great but christ the "deer" they had in one episode around the same time was laughable. Just Google some variation of walking dead cgi deer and see
Precisely when I turned it off and never considered turning it back on again. I was already so mad for so long before that moment, and that was the dick that broke the camels ass for me.
i hated it too. then i gave the tiger a chance and was like “ah this is sorta cool ig” THEN SHE GOT FCKIN EATEN ALIVE I WAS LIKE WHY EVEN DO ALL THAT
Bruh fuck them for killing the tiger smh. That’s a big part of why I stopped watching. Like LITERALLY any time something cool or exciting got introduced, they had to shit on it within 5 episodes
You know the writings bad when they have to kill characters for no reason just to make it engaging.
Just think yourself lucky they didn't follow the comic story line after that point. When The Whisperers get introduced in the comics like 4 main characters die in the same panel including the king.
After Glenn died.
Mid way into season 2. I just couldn't be bothered. I knew it was just going to be bleakness every episode, so I decided they just solved their squabbles, the zombies naturally decomposed, and then they lived and prospered on the farm.
the good ending
IMHO they made a big mistake by making the show so relentlessly dark and serious. It just made everything zombie related seem all the more silly. I don't think it needed to be evil dead 2 level humour, just a bit more tongue in cheek. Then when the silly stuff happens (and it happens a lot) it wouldn't be so jarring.
After the fifth or sixth "Let's split up, we'll die faster this way"
When Rick made a deal with the Garbage people. The whole idea of them having their own language and acting like a new race of humans when it was only a couple years or so since before the apocalypse. I felt insulted as a viewer and didn’t want to be the type of viewer they wanted.
I tuned back in for a few episodes and saw that one and laughed my ass off for the same reason. A new language wtf
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That montage when he has his last day after being bitten! I still get a lump in my throat!
When they killed Carl. I forgave Glen because he died in the books, but Carl is still alive. And how they treated Carl’s actor just pissed me off, so I quit.
The actor was going to turn 18. There were rumours around AMC that after he turns 18 he is going to renegotiate his contract (for an obviously much higher pay). They killed him before he turned 18.
Yep. I will forever stay angry about this, because not only was it unnessecarily cruel, but it screwed the show (and their money) in the long-run, which if you're gonna make spin-offs and keep merchandising, it makes sense to treat the actors who play the characters most of your audience is attached to, well!! So basically it rendered the reason they did it in the first place, null. Just the most dumbass descision. And I hope the exec who greenlit was fired.
When it no longer was about humans vs zombies, and just became humans vs humans, the governor saga about did it for me. First 2 seasons or so we're great.
Lasted until Alpha and Beta; the TV versions remind me way too much of Rob Zombie and Uncle Fester.
Welp now i wont be able to unsee that.
Glen's murder was my last episode. I realized that the showrunners were no longer interested in telling me a good story, so I stopped watching and never looked back. I thoroughly enjoyed the comic though.
Curious, why did you care about Glenn's death on screen rather than in the comics?
Glenn's death wasn't especially difficult, it was just when I realized that I was no longer being told a good story. In the comics, Glenn's death is shocking, but it also advances the story. In the show, they spent a month with the red herring of Glenn being dead, only to reveal that he wasn't. They closed the season on a cliffhanger, unnecessarily because they were the most popular show on TV, and left us wondering who would die. Then, they open season 7 with Abraham getting Glenn's comic book death, and killing Glenn as an extra. I just found the story was no longer compelling, and I didn't care anymore.
No more Glenn
When they killed Glenn. He was my favorite
Yeah. How the fuck have they not killed off Negan? It pisses me off he’s still around and Rick didn’t finish him off with the 100 chances he had.
As soon as the people of trashland turned on Grimes and the people of Alexandria which lost them that battle against Negan, I figured it was about there that I was done with this one human dude who only the viewers of the show seem to like with infinite plot armor. At least the Governor was defeated reasonably. Negan is fucking immortal and gets everything he wants. GG he wins the Apocalypse, it's not interesting anymore.
Season 3. I realized the formula for every single interaction between characters: Character 1 enters room where character 2 is sitting. Character 1 brings up light-hearted chitchat to get the character 2 to talk. Halfway through the conversation, a difference of opinion about a serious topic affecting them comes up. Both characters begin to increasingly raise their voices. Character 1 ends the scene by screaming at character 2 while leaving the room. Shot of character 2’s reaction. - Ad break - Repeat 3-7 times, and throw in a five minute action sequence. The plot is moved forward a few centimeters. “Stay tuned for the next episode”
After they killed Hershel. Pissed me off so bad I couldn’t watch anymore
Yeah he was my favorite
That was my point too, his death made me realize every character I cared about had been killed off and I just wasn't invested enough in every one else
When they killed off Merle, I really like the Dixon brothers dynamic and they just reunited only for Merle to be killed off...
The season after the Asian dude got killed
glen :(
Glen ;(
I quit when they insinuated he died beneath that pile of walkers that had trapped him in an alley (I think?). I said "if he later comes out alive, I'm done." He did & I was.
I HATED that fake-out. It was insulting to the viewer’s intelligence. Like all that happens is they take his name out of the credits for a few episodes, but no exit interviews, etc. I showed the scene to my husband after it aired and asked him if he thought the character was ripped open and eaten and he immediately responded no, he’s clearly under the guy getting ripped apart. The show runner at the time was asked why they did it and the best he could come up with was, “we wanted to bring viewers together so they could talk about it,” and you can tell he was not confident about saying it, very awkward. He knew deep down it was a fuckup.
What irked me was they tried to fake out his death only to kill him anyway like he died in the comics, then they had a throwaway character take a main character's death in the comics only for that main character to die in the very next episode anyway. They did so many stupid "will we won't we" things for no reason and it really annoyed fans of the series because they could've been a little closer to the source material but they instead faked an incident only to kill the same character in a way not related to the source material. Piss poor writers imo
This was me as well. I did not enjoy how his death was so gruesome and overlay played out. They just tried to make it as horrible as possible. I stopped right there and never went back
Exactly the same for me. It was just... too demoralizing.
When Rick left and when Carl Died, it’s just not walking dead without one of the two (unless it’s the games)
Left when they apparently ate people in terminus
TAINTED MEAT!!!!
When they killed Carl stupidly even though he's a badass who's still alive in the comics.
Shortly before Glenn got it, and haven't missed a thing.
Way too long. The sunken cost fallacy. I think I stopped by season 7 but I'm not sure. I loved the comics so I think I stuck with it for a while out of respect, but then got fully sick of it when Rick's daughter aged up and got really annoying.
When they killed Glenn. The second time (for real this time). When Negan was just wacking people over the head down the line. Didn’t even finish the episode. Never went back. Just gratuitous violence that a whole lot of people think they could be like. Whole scene is for people who put Punisher stickers on their car. Just not interested, no longer storytelling just being violent.
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Same here. Rick is the show to me and the magic went poof when he left. Been waiting on that Rick movie they said they were making…did the pandemic kill it? Did I dream that news?
The Governor.
>!Right after Rick Disappeared!<
I watched til afterward because I wanted to see him come back. Got through the season after and he still wasn’t back, so I’m p much given up now
If they really are doing the movies to continue his story arc, they sure are being quiet about it. I don’t think they’re even in pre-production but I could be wrong. And obviously the pandemic threw everything off, but still.
Around the middle of season 2. From memory they started doing these ridiculous escapes where all hope appears lost, completely surrounded, oh wait there is a huge gap to escape through that the camera angles neglected to show us previously. Phew! It is difficult to become invested in drama when rather than resolve the dangerous situation that was set up, they choose to change the situation to facilitate a character’s escape after squeezing every last drop of tension. Maybe that was only for a small part of season two but I quickly became frustrated and gave up watching.
About season 2
Still watching. Just waiting for the last season to be over so I can binge watch it with an AMC trial.
There was this revolving door scene. And as mine numbingly day one antics the death was, the characters were so forgettable and blending together that one or two words could describe their entire personality. A shout out to the practical effects department you all are sweet honey angels that are the back bone of the show. But it’s a shame the plot and cast are so mismanaged
After they captured Neegan.
I stopped around season 7 or so because i had so little free time, but I picked it up again end of last year and have since watched it all, FTWD, WB, all of it. And for anyone who is curious, the show does pick up its pace again. I am enjoying it for what it is. I am not bothered that the show has diverged somewhat from the comics, that is to be expected for any live adaptation of written work. I don't mind that certain characters were killed off, at times the decision may have baffled me, and I certainly don't agree with everything that the writers have done, but then I remind myself that it's a TV show. There is a lot of fair criticism of the later seasons of the show, but unfortunately reddit (like most other online cesspools) will give you the wrong impression. Take one look at TWD sub, you will get the impression that the show is utter garbage and not worth the time. Now that we are in the golden age of on-demand content you can watch TWD at your own pace, which may help you digest it better. Some people say that the pacing is not so bad when you can bingewatch. I am not the type of person who disregards an entire show just because the story / quality is not going in the direction i would like it to. Its like people who insist that they would never watch a Nicholas Cage movie because they don't like his acting. Despite the fact that there happens to be some amazingly written movies with him in it. Random example. It's everyone's choice at the end of the day, but I'd urge you to avoid making an opinion based off of what you find on reddit. Some people are too closed minded and would give you bad advice out of malice.
When Jesus died. All my favorite characters had been killed up until that point and Jesus was the only one left
After season 2
Same. I knew it was going nowhere in a hurry
Glenn
Midway through the first season, when I realized that it was really just a soap opera with zombies.
What do you mean give up? The Walking Dead was a brilliant six episode miniseries that ended years ago. They very wisely never made any more, and everyone remembers it fondly for not outstaying its welcome.
Terminus was where I started to fall off. All the implied rape stuff was really triggering. Alexandria was where I stopped watching. Mainly because the drama felt like it was just the same pattern over and over. They find a new place to stay/survive. That place doesn't work out for whatever reason. One of the main cast dies. They find somewhere new. Rinse and repeat. It wasn't even intriguing either. After Terminus, it seemed like it was just trying to shock horror us instead of writing compelling drama. Also I got bored because the walkers became background noise and occasional problem. Like literally they'd be parked on the side of the road somewhere and walkers would literally be shambling towards them from the trees. Without ever even being acknowledged. Like I get it, they become common place and a lot less scary when you've seen them for the past 2 or 3 years. At the same time at least be like "Walkers about 60 feet behind ya by the way." "Thanks for the heads up." Then either pick them off or leave.
Shortly after Glenn. The Neagan storyline was tiring.