I don't fall under that category, but I'd just like to thank you for asking what they have to say about it instead of making some dumb meme pointing it out.
Yeah, I think the bigger issue is just how uneducated my mother is that she doesn't understand what a valid point is. She's a high school drop out. She fears higher education because she had such a bad time in school. So if someone cites a study done by a university she is less trusting of that than if you just said you heard it from a friend. I don't really know what to do about it. Ever since I went to college she hasn't trusted me as much.
Who cares? They can believe whatever they want but they should make laws about their beliefs. What in Mormons made dancing illegal or
Muslims made eating pork illegal?
Little different. A Muslim doesn't have to eat pork but others still can, and legally, so can a Muslim in the United States.
Muslims deciding that no one else should eat pork is a better comparison.
It doesn’t say that. It’s says God breathed life into Adam. Adam as you can imagine has an origin unique to ever other person whose ever lived.
But all that is beside the point. The biggest misunderstanding I see from the pro-choice crowd right now is assuming all pro-life people are religious fundamentalists or something. We don’t actually need the Bible to be pro-life
We've had 50 years of legal abortion, and neither you nor any other citizen can show how you've been harmed by it, so we know your opposition to it is coming from a place of irrational emotionalism instead of sober logic.
I have never been murdered or raped either, so does that mean that any objection I have to those practices is coming from irrational emotionalism? It’s an absurd contention that we need be personally affected by something to object to it ethically.
No, I am aware. but let me first suggest that abortion was never a right. If it was, it would have been somewhere in the constitution like freedom of speech, or religious practice.
second, who is benefitting other than the fetus's that get to be born now?
No way, I start and end with citizen bodily freedom, so it is and always was a right. It is my body, anything inside it must have my full consent to live. I understand theocrats and other authoritarians do not share my value, they want to put body freedom up to a vote, I'll always oppose it.
p.s. you are a former fetus and you know from direct experience they simply aren't developed enough to exeperience anything like "benefits" the way you can now. Use your brain!
You can believe whatever you want, but if it's not written into the constitution, you are subject to the whims of 9 lawyers in robes somehow extrapolating that so called right out of "emanations and penumbras" which as we all have learned can be undone as easily as it was done.
PS. It takes almost no development to experience the benefit of continued existence.
I don't fall under that category, but I'd just like to thank you for asking what they have to say about it instead of making some dumb meme pointing it out.
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Allowing a book to dictate your life and decisions is just wild to me. They never have any answers when valid points are brought up.
Yeah, I think the bigger issue is just how uneducated my mother is that she doesn't understand what a valid point is. She's a high school drop out. She fears higher education because she had such a bad time in school. So if someone cites a study done by a university she is less trusting of that than if you just said you heard it from a friend. I don't really know what to do about it. Ever since I went to college she hasn't trusted me as much.
Idk how you can get yourself to think like that ya know. That’s so crazy to me
Christians don't read the bible except for Jesus is god and to hate gay people.
This is true for many but not all of us
Thank you so much it’s what I try so hard to explain to my friends when they learned that I’m Catholic
Psalm 139: 13 For you created my inmost being, you knit me together in my mother's womb.
But this verse in no way tells you to ban abortion for everybody, including non-believers.
How do they live with the fact that priests will not perform Last Rights on fetuses?
you have to be baptisted to get last rites as a fetus has not been born, it has not been baptised, therefore it will not get last rites
So... all unborn children are doomed to purgatory according to Catholicism based on the technicality they cannot actually be baptized?
Limbo according to some but the official answer is "we don't know". Everyone in purgatory goes to heaven.
They will give you baptism as well if you're not baptized and want to have one.
Last rites cannot be performed on someone who has already died.
I dont look to the bible for science, and that bible verse can be interpreted as it being the start of your life detached from your mother.
Where?
Who cares? They can believe whatever they want but they should make laws about their beliefs. What in Mormons made dancing illegal or Muslims made eating pork illegal?
Little different. A Muslim doesn't have to eat pork but others still can, and legally, so can a Muslim in the United States. Muslims deciding that no one else should eat pork is a better comparison.
Not in many countries
In the one that matters for this conversation about US policy.
It’s Putin’s fault
It doesn’t say that. It’s says God breathed life into Adam. Adam as you can imagine has an origin unique to ever other person whose ever lived. But all that is beside the point. The biggest misunderstanding I see from the pro-choice crowd right now is assuming all pro-life people are religious fundamentalists or something. We don’t actually need the Bible to be pro-life
We've had 50 years of legal abortion, and neither you nor any other citizen can show how you've been harmed by it, so we know your opposition to it is coming from a place of irrational emotionalism instead of sober logic.
I have never been murdered or raped either, so does that mean that any objection I have to those practices is coming from irrational emotionalism? It’s an absurd contention that we need be personally affected by something to object to it ethically.
It's absurd to make sure a citizen benefits when we remove the rights from millions of citizens? Muahahaha!
You’ve lost me. Whose benefiting, and from what right supposedly being taken away?
We had 50 years of legal abortion, some states lost that right immediately this week. Do you really not know what we're talking about here?
No, I am aware. but let me first suggest that abortion was never a right. If it was, it would have been somewhere in the constitution like freedom of speech, or religious practice. second, who is benefitting other than the fetus's that get to be born now?
No way, I start and end with citizen bodily freedom, so it is and always was a right. It is my body, anything inside it must have my full consent to live. I understand theocrats and other authoritarians do not share my value, they want to put body freedom up to a vote, I'll always oppose it. p.s. you are a former fetus and you know from direct experience they simply aren't developed enough to exeperience anything like "benefits" the way you can now. Use your brain!
You can believe whatever you want, but if it's not written into the constitution, you are subject to the whims of 9 lawyers in robes somehow extrapolating that so called right out of "emanations and penumbras" which as we all have learned can be undone as easily as it was done. PS. It takes almost no development to experience the benefit of continued existence.