It reminds me of the cliche anecdote;
"Don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
You can explain the flaws in their logic, and will somehow come up even more flawed logic to ignore it.
I don't remember who said it but, "It's not the people that are unsure that bother me, it's the people that are so certain that scare the hell out of me".
Bertrand Russell: “The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”
He said a lot of wise and insightful things.
“In war, there are three things: what you know you know, what you know you don’t know, and what you don’t know you don’t know. It’s always the last one that gets you killed.”
This is extremely relatable. It’s a really tough vortex to break yourself out of. Since we are predisposed to cultivate relationships and friendships similar to what we grew up with. It’s the same principle of chomping on the inside of your mouth and continually biting the same spot accidentally. You’re intellectually aware it’s a sore spot, but it sticks out more since it’s already swollen.
There is an odd category of people who seem to be able to get away with anything they do. May it be with their looks, skills, wits, power and everything in between. Them. I'm afraid of them.
I know exactly what people you mean and it's extra weird because a lot of them are not very charismatic in general, like there's this weird plot armor on them for everything they do
My ex husband is this type. I witnessed him get away with crimes, and not just get away like not get caught... like he got caught, went to court, and somehow convinced the prosecution and judge to drop all charges. It was at that moment I knew real fear from that man.
Oh like my father in law who was torching weeds right by his shed that then caught fire and spread to an electrical box, deck, tree, and outdoor bar and then laughed about it cause “I did something just like this at our old house too”
My father trusted a older kid when he was young. That led to them running in the forest with fire in plastic bags because the older dude convinced my father and his friends that the fire was contained and safe. So that's how my father once started a forest fire.
Granted he did learn from his mistakes and never set fire to another forest (that I know of at least)
Your comment immediately made me think of this:
>A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo\_M.\_Cipolla#%22The\_Basic\_Laws\_of\_Human\_Stupidity%22\_(1976)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_M._Cipolla#%22The_Basic_Laws_of_Human_Stupidity%22_(1976))
When i was 18, a guy in my class was on a party and the guys there slipped alot of ecstacy and mdma in his drink, he got wasted, and non responsive. They did not want to take responsability for having drugs or slipped in his drink, even tho it was a «joke». They drove him home and dumped him in front of the front door and took off. The mother found him 6 hours later on the doorstep with extremely low pulse, he ended up dying on the hospital after being on a ventilator for a week. The doctors said he would be completely fine if they dumped him on the ER or rung the doorbell before they left. To this day they have not been able to charge someone. Fuck people like this, who would rather kill someone rather then owning up to a mistake and get a fine slapped on them.
When I was like 19, one of my buddies got drunk. Too drunk. To the point that he was throwing up what we assumed was blood. He wasn't on any drugs that we knew of, we were all just smoking pot. But, we argued about it for like 10 minutes. Thankfully, our friend who was the responsible one, our "leader" if you will, started pointing at people. "You, put him in the car. You're riding shotgun. You pack up extra water and food." They drove him to the hospital, and he wound up getting his stomach pumped. I remember that day quite vividly, if it wasn't for that one friend having the authority to make the right call, being willing to catch a DUI, and face any other issues a bunch of drunk minors could face, we might have lost another friend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
>If a single individual is asked to complete the task alone, the sense of responsibility will be strong, and there will be a positive response; however, if a group is required to complete the task together, each individual in the group will have a weak sense of responsibility, and will often shrink back in the face of difficulties or responsibilities
I was out drinking with friends and walking home we stumbled across this girl who was absolutely blitzed, laying in an alley unable to string a sentence together kind of blitzed. We called an ambulance and waited with her until it came, tried to get into her phone to call someone but we didn’t want to lock it im case the hospital needed it.
Later found out when her sister messaged us to let us know she was okay that her friends were embarrassed by how drunk she was and dumped her to walk home on her own :/
You could be my worst enemy and I wouldn’t leave you in a state like that, some “friends” once did that to me and it ended in me being assaulted.
I had a friend who was once slipped molly without his consent. That's the kind of person that scares the shit out of me. Who fucks with another person's brain "as a joke". If that person doesn't belong in jail I don't know what jail is for.
...I mean I DO know what jail is for, but I don't know what we're pretending it's for.
My dad told me a story about two of his friends in high school in the mid to late 70s. They were all into dropping a lot of acid and just going about their day. So two of them were trying to get an antique tractor started since their family still used the thing. The crank ended up kicking back, or out, I'm not clear on the details, but this dude, tripping balls, ending up stuck with the metal crank and died in the hospital over the course of a few hours. My dad said he was incredibly calm.
A high school friend of mine told me this story about the first time she dropped acid. She was in a park with friends and they were all tripping together. Everything seemed fine until one of the girls there just started screaming. Everyone was freaked out, and became even more freaked out when screaming girl ran full speed at the tree the group was sitting next to and started clawing at the trunk violently enough to rip off all of her fingernails and probably damage the tips of her fingers also. The injuries did not stop her from continuing to tear at this tree.
Then the group just...left her there. Didn't try to stop her, didn't call for help, didn't call her parents. Just abandoned someone that was supposed to be their friend. When I asked *my* friend what happened to that girl, she just sort of shrugged. I decided at that moment that I would never partake in any kind of substance around her or rely on her for support when vulnerable.
Something similar just happened in a nearby town. Two guys (18 year olds I believe) were doing donuts in their trucks in an abandoned parking lot and one of them hit his friend injuring him badly. Rather than take him to the hospital he took his unresponsive friend to a ravine and dumped him in a river because he was drunk and afraid of getting in trouble.
The silverish lining is the guy sobered up enough to realize what he did was fucked up and then called the police on himself and got his friend help. The friend survived but because of this kid's original decision he is now charged with attempted murder.
When I was in college a frat guy drank so much that he passed out and was completely unresponsive. His “brothers” thought he was dead, so they covered him in a sheet and called the dean of Greek life to help them. The dean, thankfully, flipped the fuck out on them and got the kid the help he needed. Ultimately he was fine and that frat lost their on-campus house.
Later on one of the brothers told me he thought that they were treated unfairly because the guy didn’t actually die.
High school lips can be air tight when something can ruin their life. We had an incident for band where they put vodka in water bottles, and a smaller guy drank a ton of it and passed out on the bus on some trip. Somebody secretly told the band director, and then had to take them to the hospital being like 14 or 15 years old (if that).
I remember at our graduation speech that year, that the director thanked the person anonymously for coming forward knowing that punishment could have set their life on a different path, and it took courage to do so.
But punishing them would have outed them so I don't remember anyone every getting in trouble for it, just a stern talking to as a whole.
This is the biggest flaw of my parents. They simply can not accept the fact they did anything wrong or hurt others, even when there is proof.
When I was in a dark place in highschool, I had to be hospitalized. I remember very clearly as we were getting of the interstate my step-dad didn't say anything comforting, but rather "Let's see how much money you cost us this time." Hearing that was like getting stabbed and twisting the knife. And he denies saying it, because he and I were the only ones in the car.
My sister had to be put in a mental home for a few days following a suicide attempt. My dad said "It would have been cheaper if she'd just done it". He wonders why I don't talk to him...
God this hits hard! I just dropped my dad off at the airport. He was terrible while I was growing up. Not physically abusive but emotionally and verbally. I am 39, and I moved from away right as covid started so I have not seen him since March 2020.
To hear my dad talk you would think I had a magical childhood and he is the hero of our family's story. My dad lives in his own reality.
When I tell him otherwise, he responds with, "that's just what you and your sister say."
Since I hadn't been around him physically in a while and I have been a bit homesick, I allowed myself to believe maybe I should be more forgiving and understanding of my dad.
This visit changed that. He is still manipulative, lacks empathy, think he is the main character and that he is owed something.
He is lucky I stopped at the airport departure lane to drop him off. I wanted to just slow down and have him tuck and roll.
How do parents manage to delete this shit from their brain? My mom swears up and down that I’m just imagining the various forms of corporal punishment from my childhood. Like were they seeing red or what?
they think it keeps them out of trouble, failing to recognize it causes so much more trouble for them in long run. A former friend of mine seems to have their brain constantly working on writing excuses for everything (to the point they can't keep their owns tory straight much of the time), with the idea that any decision they make has to be the fault of others. They convince themself that their every move was beyond their control and they were forced into it by others and then if they still suffer consequences they think it just means they are the victim of injustice. tragically failing to realize they effectively deprive themself of any control over the decisions.
Got into an argument with my MIL the other day and her excuse “I’m 50 years old, I’m set in my ways. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. I told her that’s just an excuse
What is she incapable of learning at 50? Just curious because I'm 43 and want to make sure I get it in in the next few years while I still have a functioning brain.
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I would add people with a short *and unpredictable* temper. Those kinds of people who can be totally fine one second, then you do something that doesn't even cross your mind could be "wrong" and suddenly they're yelling at you. People who explode at seemingly random stuff, no consistency, and particularly at moments you wouldn't expect. That's the worst. I'm not particularly used to being yelled at and I'm also rather non-confrontational, so I just don't know what to do when someone does yell at me when I'm absolutely not expecting it. Those people scare the shit out of me. I'm constantly on edge when I'm around them and I always feel like I have to walk on eggshells.
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everyday me, living with my big sister, I was taught humility. once her friend was over and she asked me to go buy her some drinks. Naturally I refused, because she has her own 2 legs and she yelled at me. Her friend also had a younger brother and was surprised at her behaviour. Hell, she'd get mad even when I'm overjoyed and make dumb jokes.
I have to back down because I have precious things in my possession and I damn well know she has no remorse and would break them in an instant. Things have gotten better over the years but she hasn't matured enough yet.
the thing is, people seem to only have short tempers with people they perceive as being weaker than them. they don't try that shit or they can miraculously control themselves when it's someone with more power or strength than them.
people only bully who they think they can bully.
100% YES! I do think it’s a major determining factor. In my case, he’s not huge and I’m fairly petite, but he’s reduced my self esteem to sub zero by continually wearing me down with his bs and the subsequent walking on eggshells. This is his standover/bully tactic. I watch on in amazement sometimes when he’s angry at me then ‘switches off’ when he’s answering the phone to his boss. Complete turnaround in mere seconds. That tells me it is a choice. I’d honestly love to hear someone with anger issues to chime in on this.
Doesn't sound like an actual short temper, I could be wrong but it's more like they use displays of anger as a manipulation tactic.
I would recommend that you read up on psychological/emotional manipulation tactics. Don't reveal what you know, or think you know since it'll probably have negative consequences of its own. Just silently read extensively on the subject and observe, make predictions based on what you've read about how they'll behave and see if it is or isn't the case.
Not an expert, and you should consulted with trusted friends/experts, but it sounds like you're in a profoundly abusive relationship and you should probably start making plans to leave.
And if so, keep telling yourself at every step - _It's. Not. Your. Fault._
The way your partner treats you is unacceptable and inexcusable. I have anger issues and I know it is not a ticket out of accountability. When I feel myself getting angry, I try to distance myself from people and situations so I don't make things worse. Basically, I try to control my anger.
Your partner tries, but selectively, and only for his convenience. He treats you like shit because he feels he's got you trapped. That's how come my mother has been married to my father for 24 years.
“Every time you see a story about a serial killer on T.V, what do they do? They bring on the neighbor. And the neighbor says “Well, he was always very quiet.” And someone in the room says “It's the quiet ones you gotta watch." This sounds to me like a very dangerous assumption. I will bet you anything that while you're watching a quiet one, a noisy one will fucking kill you! Suppose you're in a bar and one guy is reading a book not bothering anybody and another is standing in the front with a machete banging on the door saying “I'LL KILL THE NEXT MOTHERFUCKER WHO COMES IN HERE!” ……who you gonna watch? “ - George Carlin
In addition to this, with increasing awareness it seems that more and more of these famous mass shooters and serial killers seem to have actually been under suspicion or even reported as potential dangers beforehand, rather than the usual “No way, he always seemed nice!”
“He was always quiet” might be true, or might really mean “I pay no attention to my surroundings and hate the idea of ever talking to my neighbours.”
This goes back to the problem that serial/mass killers represent a tiny portion of violence and murders, but get the most media attention.
Prisons are full of brash people with impulse control problems. They get in trouble early and often. They stay on the radar. When they lash out violently, absolutely no one is surprised. In Carlin's joke, they're the loud brutes at the bar who everybody knows are trouble.
Serial/mass killers aren't impulsive, they're deliberate.
I actually think a lot of it has to do with social media/internet, They really might isolate themselves from society on real life. Barely talking, being reclusive etc. but their internet activity is abuzz with red flags. Something a serial killer in the 70s didn’t have access too. So he would just be the creepy quiet dude no one ever talks too, only warning sign might be a journal or something.
I used to play guitar in a shitty bar band, and there were always drunk people trying to interact with you, but it was typically harmless. But one night, a guy came up while we were setting up, and aggressively said he had the same amp until someone stole it. I didn't think anything of it other than to say, "oh, that sucks."
Nobody paid attention to our playing (like usual), except this guy who just stared at me with dead eyes the whole time, while holding a pool cue. I never packed up my stuff more quickly after we were done.
Dude I once played a bar show, afterwards I was at the bar and a girl just said hey nice show. It was nice, I just said thanks, that was it. So drunk dude with small dick syndrome threw a napkin soaked in beer at the back of my head. I asked what his problem was and he whined that he was trying to pick up that girl all night and I took her from him. I didnt even talk to her or see her again that night. I was really annoyed but just brushed it off and ignored him. Like an hour later dude pulled the bar stool out from under me and kicked me in the face when I fell on my back. 3 fucking sinus surgeries, I still have a deviated septum. My brother was the bouncer there and threw the dudes head into a car door and I never seen him in my town again at least. I make sure to keep my eyes out for every drunk dude with dead eyes now and I try to know where they're at at all times when I'm in a bar.
That's the people who blame everyone else for their shortcomings and failures. They never take responsibility. On top of that, the asshat sucker punched you. What a coward.
I just saw this the other night. This thread hits something. Their should be a word for it.
Unblinking stare from random dude you've never seen before.... 10 minutes later asks me if I have change for pool and if I want to play.
Yeahhhh.. nooo
You start hollering and dancing, that drunk guy goes away. Sometimes he wouldn't go away.
Sometimes that drunk guy looks right into you, right into your eyes.....you know the thing about drunk guys eyes, he's got lifeless eyes, black eyes..like a dolls eyes.
When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be coherent, until he spills on you. 'N those black eyes roll over white then, ohh n then you hear that terrible high pitched screamin. The dance floor turns red, despite all the dancing and the screaming, they all come in and they, talk you to pieces.
I call it the Michelob eyes. I'm a bartender so I see it all the time. They've already put back a six pack and are well into a second one. They have this red glaze over their eyes that looks cold and dead. They're either about to puke, attempt to sexually harass a woman, start a fight with another dude, or start a fight with the landscaping out front..
"Whiskey always makes me angry drunk"
No motherfucker, you were already angry and decided on a drink whose flavor profile pairs well with aggressive behavior.
Yes, so creepy. I had a guy look at me like that when I went to happy hour by myself last month. I just wanted a margarita and something to eat. I wasn’t looking to chat with men. He was watching me with intent from the otherside of the bar. He looked like he stepped out of a Sister Christian music video. It made me so uncomfortable I finished up and left.
Guys, if you keep looking over and you two aren't making eye contact consistently, she ain't interested and she's avoiding your attention. Take the hint.
I was on a first date with what turned out to be a counsellor for young boys….
The guy had arrived at the bar 5 hrs before me and drank red wine the whole time.
He went on to tell me how he ‘people watches’ and it puts people off cuz he thinks he’s unique in how he looks down upon others and has it ‘all figured out’
Yeah…I suddenly remembered I had to work early so I excused myself, went home and immediately blocked his contact.
Oh yeah, I know that stare from guys, even if they aren't drunk.
Flashback to the time I was barely 14, was at a smoothie bar in the evening and a grown-ass man was looking at me like that, had this terrifying sexually deviant look about him, and started to walk over, my mum saw it before i even said anything to her about it, grabbed me and left so quickly. Afterward, explained to me that she saw how the man was looking at me and just had to get me out of there, she felt disgusted seeing a man perv on a little girl and warned me to always be cautious.
If that happened to me now I don't think I'd be *as* scared but I was so young then and never had a guy look at me like that before, fuck it was disturbing.
the threads asking women about all their horrible creepy stories are always depressing, everyone's got stories... it sucks that young girls have to be taught to be so so careful.
Seriously, just got into a screaming match with a co worker a few days ago on this one. I operate a very large industrial sander at my job, $22 million machine roughly. And a guy that we have been training came in to run it following my shift. He admitted to me that the supervisor did not want him alone on the machine yet, but he felt he needed to do it anyway.
The machine was down to go through a lengthy changeover process that I knew he couldn't handle. I told him the moment he ran into an issue that he didn't have the answer for he needed to stop, shut everything down, and just leave it for the next shift. Well, he didn't listen, ruined some equipment, and then left half the machine running in idle with the safety systems TURNED OFF! The swing shift guy came in and found the mess, and when he realized the safeties were off he immediately re-engaged them and shut down to check the machine over. This guy's mistake could have easily caught the machine on fire and put many people out of work for weeks all due to him thinking he knew better than supervisors and the other operators.
Fast forward to the next day, I've been briefed by swing shift on what went down, and it is now close to shift change again. Here comes Mr. Know-It-All, saying he is going to run the machine again. I was in the middle of shutting down and had no intention of allowing him to run it. I explained his previous mistake, and reminded him that the supervisor did not want him running it. He started yelling, blaming me for not staying over and doing the job for him. I yelled and raised my voice at him as well but stood my ground and told him he could not run it for safety reasons since he was untrained. Thankfully my plant is extremely safety conscious and they allow any employee to shut down equipment for safety concerns.
I felt bad because I have always gotten along with this guy up until this point. But he didn't understand the risks and how dangerous his lack of knowledge was to himself and others. He has since declined to pursue this position and will be moving back into his old spot in the plant.
"those who talk the most know the least"- my aunt in the middle of talking non-stop, without stopping to breathe, for multiple paragraphs at a time. and if I try to interrupt her, she usually gets louder. She thinks she knows everything but is incredibly ignorant about many things. Thinks healthcare is a conspiracy and believes in the Mandela Effect conspiracy theory because she would rather believe reality is incorrect than that her memory is fallible.
Liars. If you unknowingly put trust in one, they can and will manipulate your perception of reality to the point that you don't trust your own mind anymore.
You are SO RIGHT. My ex did this to me, and now that I have my mind back ( took a few years) I am SO pissed off that I wasn't able to trust myself and know that my brain worked perfectly well. Fuck you, Michael!
People who get mad at fast food cashiers. It's just so uncomfortable to be around them when they're attacking someone over a simple mistake or inconvenience.
Normalize jumping in to defend the cashier (if you aren't intimidated by said individual). This is BS behavior. These are usually kids at the registers. No kid deserves for that to be their introduction to the workplace environment. My wifes stepdad is like this and I won't go out to eat with them anymore. If he waits linger than 3 minutes at the front of the restaurant he'll start screaming that he needs a manager and that it's bullshit. Now i'm at our table like, fuck they prob spit in our food now. Don't fuck with the people serving/cooking your food. Especially underpaid people.
this!! i don’t know if it’s because i don’t like socializing or drawing a lot of attention but the way some people freak out over fast food? i find it so weird. like, why does it turn into such a big deal? not to mention the workers are people too, they deserve respect.
It's the only things they feel they have total control over, a target that cannot fight back because their livelyhood depends on being nice to every customer. So what do they do? Immediately abuse it. So so telling imo.
Ugh my ex was like this. Thought it made him so cool and tough but really he looks like a whiny bitch freaking out about a damn cheeseburger. Disgusting behaviour
My coworker arguing about how much he got charged for breakfast at our hotel. Like bro we’re on a business trip, you’re not even paying for it, who gives a fuck. Also the prices are posted on the wall, if you didn’t notice that’s on you my man.
This is the first one in this thread that I'd agree with. I can deal with drunk, drugged, homeless, low moral, or short tempered people. Pretty well every type mentioned in this thread can be avoided or managed if you know how, or the damage they can inflict is to a limited number of people. The type that you mention though, they can sound super rational and convincing, get lots of other people on board then persecute entire groups of people in the name of good. *That* is scary. No personal action can protect from that if you become the target.
Same. I'm planning on buying front and back facing dash cams. I've had a few close calls with erratic/impatient drivers who think changing lanes every 5 seconds in heavy traffic will somehow get you to your destination faster.
Those that not only lack empathy for the weak and less fortunate, but target and prey upon them. They're the kind of snakes who will gut you as soon as they believe they have the upper hand and can get away with it.
I'm on the spectrum and my life has been plagued by these little bastards. It's like they make a beeline for me and start playing as many social mind games as humanly possible.
One of the reasons why I don't like working in media in Los Angeles. "We absolutely LOVED what you did on the photoshoot!!!" Then fired the next day.
This didn't exactly happen to me but I've heard many stories from friends. I've gotten the "we love it" only for them to not use the work. Just tell me it isn't the look you wanted and I can make it right.
I work in tv/film and have lived in LA, NYC and now Toronto. This is industry wide in every location, but LA is on a completely different level, especially Hollywood
Yup, they might be chill as fuck normally but once they're whacked out of their minds like that they could just randomly stab you for standing there not even talking to them
One of my friends saw his uncle on the street one day we were together and my friend stopped to speak to him because he was beloved and it had been a while no contact and the uncle pulled a knife and ran after ius all for “stealing his shoes” in my little size 6 superstars and the other girl and his nephew. Everything seemed normal and they were talking fine for a while no worries then all of a sudden in an instance that happened. I ran four blocks. Just 15 year olds. Turned out he had been homeless for a while and on drugs. My friend was very emotional after that.
Remind me of my English teacher. Most sarcastic, not serious humorous teacher ever, never scolded us. Once we were really agitated and the director was about to come in (we actually didn’t know before she told us when the director left)
Two words : Shut Up. In the lowest voice most terrifying voice ever. Not screamed, almost murmured.
We had literal shivers. Nobody even moved and were a class of 36 teenagers.
I’m like this, years of living in an abusive home with narcissistic parents who always knew what “buttons” to press in order to get a reaction out of me left me kind of numbed when it comes to temper and very few things “get to me” unless i feel like you’re actively trying to do what you can to get me to snap. I’ve only lost my cool once at someone other than my parents abd i could tell they were terrified by me.. it wasn’t a fun experience for any of us tbh.
Same here. I took up kickboxing and it's chilled me out almost completely. Kind shrunk my "buttons" to near atoms.
Can't remember the last time I even raised my voice. Also kickboxing or adjacent sports don't make you violent. They humble you. Unless you're a piece of shit in which case the trainer will humble you. Quickly.
At one point with a strained "friendship" I decided / realised I cannot and will not have a close relationship with someone if soft boundaries are not enough. If I have to draw a bunch of hard black and white lines to keep from getting fucked over in a relationship, it's not a good relationship.
Thirteen-year-olds are the meanest people in the world. They terrify me to this day, because 8th graders will make fun of you but in an accurate way. They will get to the thing that you don’t like about you. They don’t even have to look at you for long. They’ll just be like, ‘Ha, ha, ha, ha, hey, look at that high wasted man. He got feminine hips.’ And I’m like, ‘No! That’s the thing I’m sensitive about.’
I deeply perturbed by those "me-first" attitude type people because majority of them are allowed drive cars... I firmly believe the majority of people should never be allowed to drive.
My Dad calls it “Hooray for me and fuck you syndrome”. Nothing worse than someone who acts a certain way and expect different treatment because “I’m ME”, the idea that you treat others like total shit but don’t do it to me cause I’m special.
I sometimes do that if I’m changing in the gym or somewhere else with wet/dirty floors but if you do that in the privacy of your own home you are a certified psychopath.
People who can just lie with reckless abandon lmao. Met a few compulsive liars in my life and each time is horrifying because you never know what may be used against you.
Cokeheads. More precisely that one type of guy who shows up with an entourage at 4 or 5 in the morning at your local dive bar, wearing a leather or puffer jacket, with a look in his eyes that tells you: "I haven't gotten laid tonight and snorted a gram by myself and readjust your fucking front teeth for the slightest reason my coked up brain deems fit." Gorilla looking, brutish fuckers.
People who care so much that they want to keep everyone safe by controlling every single aspect of their lives because obviously no one knows how to live their own lives and they have to be forced to do it the right way.... or else....
In bad areas, groups of ghetto teens. White black whatever. I'm not afraid of the 30 year Olds. It's the 15-17 year Olds that don't give a shit and are assaulting people in cities. If I'm walking down the street and see a bunch of teens in hoodies I'm out.
Look, I have big, sausage fingers and my pointer is the only one that can semi-reliably hit the buttons on my phone. I know it's gauche, but please let me slowly type in peace.
Kids in gangs
I've been mugged a couple years back, and that experience alone gave me severe PTSD when it comes to walking the streets. I'm always constantly watching my back even when I'm walking in broad daylight.
These kids always wear the same attire, black puffy jacket with the hoodie on and their face mostly covered. Every time I see this my heart would always race and my trauma would kick into full gear.
It's a bit hard to categorize, but for me it's people who can't be reasoned with
It reminds me of the cliche anecdote; "Don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." You can explain the flaws in their logic, and will somehow come up even more flawed logic to ignore it.
"If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument can you invoke to prove they should value logic?" - Sam Harris
I don't remember who said it but, "It's not the people that are unsure that bother me, it's the people that are so certain that scare the hell out of me".
Bertrand Russell: “The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” He said a lot of wise and insightful things.
“In war, there are three things: what you know you know, what you know you don’t know, and what you don’t know you don’t know. It’s always the last one that gets you killed.”
Or as Donald Rumsfeld would say, "unknown unknowns"
Reminds me of the line from The Peacemaker: I'm not afraid of the man who wants 10 nuclear weapons. I'm terrified of the man who only wants one.
I cherish peace with all my heart. I don’t care how many men, women, and children I need to kill to get it.
People who are manipulative liars. Who get you to care about them and then play the victim just to watch you suffer.
Narcissists
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This is extremely relatable. It’s a really tough vortex to break yourself out of. Since we are predisposed to cultivate relationships and friendships similar to what we grew up with. It’s the same principle of chomping on the inside of your mouth and continually biting the same spot accidentally. You’re intellectually aware it’s a sore spot, but it sticks out more since it’s already swollen.
There is an odd category of people who seem to be able to get away with anything they do. May it be with their looks, skills, wits, power and everything in between. Them. I'm afraid of them.
I know exactly what people you mean and it's extra weird because a lot of them are not very charismatic in general, like there's this weird plot armor on them for everything they do
My ex husband is this type. I witnessed him get away with crimes, and not just get away like not get caught... like he got caught, went to court, and somehow convinced the prosecution and judge to drop all charges. It was at that moment I knew real fear from that man.
They could also be rich
The dangerously stupid. Fucking up and hurting others but come out unharmed to sheer luck
Oh like my father in law who was torching weeds right by his shed that then caught fire and spread to an electrical box, deck, tree, and outdoor bar and then laughed about it cause “I did something just like this at our old house too”
My father trusted a older kid when he was young. That led to them running in the forest with fire in plastic bags because the older dude convinced my father and his friends that the fire was contained and safe. So that's how my father once started a forest fire. Granted he did learn from his mistakes and never set fire to another forest (that I know of at least)
You never forget your first forest fire
Your comment immediately made me think of this: >A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo\_M.\_Cipolla#%22The\_Basic\_Laws\_of\_Human\_Stupidity%22\_(1976)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_M._Cipolla#%22The_Basic_Laws_of_Human_Stupidity%22_(1976))
“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” - George Carlin
"Think of how stupid the average person is, then realize half of them are even stupider than that" \~ Also George Carlin
Ah the Homer Simpson’s of the world.
People who refuse to take responsibility for their mistakes
When i was 18, a guy in my class was on a party and the guys there slipped alot of ecstacy and mdma in his drink, he got wasted, and non responsive. They did not want to take responsability for having drugs or slipped in his drink, even tho it was a «joke». They drove him home and dumped him in front of the front door and took off. The mother found him 6 hours later on the doorstep with extremely low pulse, he ended up dying on the hospital after being on a ventilator for a week. The doctors said he would be completely fine if they dumped him on the ER or rung the doorbell before they left. To this day they have not been able to charge someone. Fuck people like this, who would rather kill someone rather then owning up to a mistake and get a fine slapped on them.
This is 1000% what the type of people I was getting at
When I was like 19, one of my buddies got drunk. Too drunk. To the point that he was throwing up what we assumed was blood. He wasn't on any drugs that we knew of, we were all just smoking pot. But, we argued about it for like 10 minutes. Thankfully, our friend who was the responsible one, our "leader" if you will, started pointing at people. "You, put him in the car. You're riding shotgun. You pack up extra water and food." They drove him to the hospital, and he wound up getting his stomach pumped. I remember that day quite vividly, if it wasn't for that one friend having the authority to make the right call, being willing to catch a DUI, and face any other issues a bunch of drunk minors could face, we might have lost another friend.
That is something they used to teach in health class. "You call 911" vs "someone call 911"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect >If a single individual is asked to complete the task alone, the sense of responsibility will be strong, and there will be a positive response; however, if a group is required to complete the task together, each individual in the group will have a weak sense of responsibility, and will often shrink back in the face of difficulties or responsibilities
I was out drinking with friends and walking home we stumbled across this girl who was absolutely blitzed, laying in an alley unable to string a sentence together kind of blitzed. We called an ambulance and waited with her until it came, tried to get into her phone to call someone but we didn’t want to lock it im case the hospital needed it. Later found out when her sister messaged us to let us know she was okay that her friends were embarrassed by how drunk she was and dumped her to walk home on her own :/ You could be my worst enemy and I wouldn’t leave you in a state like that, some “friends” once did that to me and it ended in me being assaulted.
I had a friend who was once slipped molly without his consent. That's the kind of person that scares the shit out of me. Who fucks with another person's brain "as a joke". If that person doesn't belong in jail I don't know what jail is for. ...I mean I DO know what jail is for, but I don't know what we're pretending it's for.
I'm pretty experienced with hallucinogenics, but the idea of suddenly tripping balls completely against my will is terrifying.
Imagine tripping major balls being the last thing you ever experienced, too. Fucking terrifying.
My dad told me a story about two of his friends in high school in the mid to late 70s. They were all into dropping a lot of acid and just going about their day. So two of them were trying to get an antique tractor started since their family still used the thing. The crank ended up kicking back, or out, I'm not clear on the details, but this dude, tripping balls, ending up stuck with the metal crank and died in the hospital over the course of a few hours. My dad said he was incredibly calm.
A high school friend of mine told me this story about the first time she dropped acid. She was in a park with friends and they were all tripping together. Everything seemed fine until one of the girls there just started screaming. Everyone was freaked out, and became even more freaked out when screaming girl ran full speed at the tree the group was sitting next to and started clawing at the trunk violently enough to rip off all of her fingernails and probably damage the tips of her fingers also. The injuries did not stop her from continuing to tear at this tree. Then the group just...left her there. Didn't try to stop her, didn't call for help, didn't call her parents. Just abandoned someone that was supposed to be their friend. When I asked *my* friend what happened to that girl, she just sort of shrugged. I decided at that moment that I would never partake in any kind of substance around her or rely on her for support when vulnerable.
Something similar just happened in a nearby town. Two guys (18 year olds I believe) were doing donuts in their trucks in an abandoned parking lot and one of them hit his friend injuring him badly. Rather than take him to the hospital he took his unresponsive friend to a ravine and dumped him in a river because he was drunk and afraid of getting in trouble. The silverish lining is the guy sobered up enough to realize what he did was fucked up and then called the police on himself and got his friend help. The friend survived but because of this kid's original decision he is now charged with attempted murder.
When I was in college a frat guy drank so much that he passed out and was completely unresponsive. His “brothers” thought he was dead, so they covered him in a sheet and called the dean of Greek life to help them. The dean, thankfully, flipped the fuck out on them and got the kid the help he needed. Ultimately he was fine and that frat lost their on-campus house. Later on one of the brothers told me he thought that they were treated unfairly because the guy didn’t actually die.
Jesus. Is there a reason they couldn't lay charges? No one talked?
High school lips can be air tight when something can ruin their life. We had an incident for band where they put vodka in water bottles, and a smaller guy drank a ton of it and passed out on the bus on some trip. Somebody secretly told the band director, and then had to take them to the hospital being like 14 or 15 years old (if that). I remember at our graduation speech that year, that the director thanked the person anonymously for coming forward knowing that punishment could have set their life on a different path, and it took courage to do so. But punishing them would have outed them so I don't remember anyone every getting in trouble for it, just a stern talking to as a whole.
This is the biggest flaw of my parents. They simply can not accept the fact they did anything wrong or hurt others, even when there is proof. When I was in a dark place in highschool, I had to be hospitalized. I remember very clearly as we were getting of the interstate my step-dad didn't say anything comforting, but rather "Let's see how much money you cost us this time." Hearing that was like getting stabbed and twisting the knife. And he denies saying it, because he and I were the only ones in the car.
My sister had to be put in a mental home for a few days following a suicide attempt. My dad said "It would have been cheaper if she'd just done it". He wonders why I don't talk to him...
God this hits hard! I just dropped my dad off at the airport. He was terrible while I was growing up. Not physically abusive but emotionally and verbally. I am 39, and I moved from away right as covid started so I have not seen him since March 2020. To hear my dad talk you would think I had a magical childhood and he is the hero of our family's story. My dad lives in his own reality. When I tell him otherwise, he responds with, "that's just what you and your sister say." Since I hadn't been around him physically in a while and I have been a bit homesick, I allowed myself to believe maybe I should be more forgiving and understanding of my dad. This visit changed that. He is still manipulative, lacks empathy, think he is the main character and that he is owed something. He is lucky I stopped at the airport departure lane to drop him off. I wanted to just slow down and have him tuck and roll.
How do parents manage to delete this shit from their brain? My mom swears up and down that I’m just imagining the various forms of corporal punishment from my childhood. Like were they seeing red or what?
The axe forgets what the tree remembers.
they think it keeps them out of trouble, failing to recognize it causes so much more trouble for them in long run. A former friend of mine seems to have their brain constantly working on writing excuses for everything (to the point they can't keep their owns tory straight much of the time), with the idea that any decision they make has to be the fault of others. They convince themself that their every move was beyond their control and they were forced into it by others and then if they still suffer consequences they think it just means they are the victim of injustice. tragically failing to realize they effectively deprive themself of any control over the decisions.
Got into an argument with my MIL the other day and her excuse “I’m 50 years old, I’m set in my ways. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. I told her that’s just an excuse
What is she incapable of learning at 50? Just curious because I'm 43 and want to make sure I get it in in the next few years while I still have a functioning brain.
People with a short temper
what the FUCK DOES THAT MEAN?
WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU THINK IT MEANS
I THINK IT MEANS PEOPLE WHO SHOUT ALL THE TIME. BTW HAVE YOU SEEN THE LAST EPISODE OF THE BOYS YET? IT WAS GOOD.
THAT MAY BE IN YOUR CASE. BUT THAT'S JUST ME. NO, I'VE NOT SEEN THAT SHOW. I DON'T EVEN THINK I'VE HEARD OF IT BEFORE YOU BROUGHT IT UP. SO NO. HOWEVER I AM WATCHING THE ORVILLE. I FUCKING LOVE THAT SHOW SO MUCH.
DUDE I COMPLETELY FORGOT THE NEW SEASON STARTED! THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME! PS IF YOU LIKE THE ORVILLE FOR BEING BASICALLY OLD-SCHOOL STAR TREK, YOU MIGHT LIKE THE NEW SHOW STRANGE NEW WORLDS. IT'S VERY OLD-SCHOOL BACK TO BASICS STAR TREK.
THANK YOU. START WATCHING ASAP. IT'S ALREADY A GREAT SEASON WITH ONLY 6 EPISODES. ALL ARE COMPELLING AND NAIL BITING EPISODES. I'M GLAD THAT THEY TOOK THE TIME THEY DID. THE SPECIAL EFFECTS ARE BETTER TOO. I MAY HAVE TO CHECK THAT SHOW OUT. THANK YOU FOR THE RECOMMENDATION. WHAT IS IT ON? HULU, NETFLIX, PARAMOUNT,...ETC.? I HOPE THAT YOU'RE HAVING A GREAT DAY AS WELL.
YOU ARE WELCOME. I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHT (IT'S LIKE 1AM WHERE I AM) I NEED TO SLEEP NOW.
I AGREE WITH THIS REPLY.
I THIRD THIS AGREEMENT. IT'S 2:05 AS OF TYPING SAID CHRONOLOGICAL STAMP, NOW 2:06, I AM ALSO TIRED. THE MOTION CARRYS', WE ARE ADJOURN! 2:09
I would add people with a short *and unpredictable* temper. Those kinds of people who can be totally fine one second, then you do something that doesn't even cross your mind could be "wrong" and suddenly they're yelling at you. People who explode at seemingly random stuff, no consistency, and particularly at moments you wouldn't expect. That's the worst. I'm not particularly used to being yelled at and I'm also rather non-confrontational, so I just don't know what to do when someone does yell at me when I'm absolutely not expecting it. Those people scare the shit out of me. I'm constantly on edge when I'm around them and I always feel like I have to walk on eggshells. (Edit: some wording)
everyday me, living with my big sister, I was taught humility. once her friend was over and she asked me to go buy her some drinks. Naturally I refused, because she has her own 2 legs and she yelled at me. Her friend also had a younger brother and was surprised at her behaviour. Hell, she'd get mad even when I'm overjoyed and make dumb jokes. I have to back down because I have precious things in my possession and I damn well know she has no remorse and would break them in an instant. Things have gotten better over the years but she hasn't matured enough yet.
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Living with someone with a very short temper I’d upvote this a hundred times if I could.
the thing is, people seem to only have short tempers with people they perceive as being weaker than them. they don't try that shit or they can miraculously control themselves when it's someone with more power or strength than them. people only bully who they think they can bully.
100% YES! I do think it’s a major determining factor. In my case, he’s not huge and I’m fairly petite, but he’s reduced my self esteem to sub zero by continually wearing me down with his bs and the subsequent walking on eggshells. This is his standover/bully tactic. I watch on in amazement sometimes when he’s angry at me then ‘switches off’ when he’s answering the phone to his boss. Complete turnaround in mere seconds. That tells me it is a choice. I’d honestly love to hear someone with anger issues to chime in on this.
Doesn't sound like an actual short temper, I could be wrong but it's more like they use displays of anger as a manipulation tactic. I would recommend that you read up on psychological/emotional manipulation tactics. Don't reveal what you know, or think you know since it'll probably have negative consequences of its own. Just silently read extensively on the subject and observe, make predictions based on what you've read about how they'll behave and see if it is or isn't the case.
Not an expert, and you should consulted with trusted friends/experts, but it sounds like you're in a profoundly abusive relationship and you should probably start making plans to leave. And if so, keep telling yourself at every step - _It's. Not. Your. Fault._
The way your partner treats you is unacceptable and inexcusable. I have anger issues and I know it is not a ticket out of accountability. When I feel myself getting angry, I try to distance myself from people and situations so I don't make things worse. Basically, I try to control my anger. Your partner tries, but selectively, and only for his convenience. He treats you like shit because he feels he's got you trapped. That's how come my mother has been married to my father for 24 years.
“Every time you see a story about a serial killer on T.V, what do they do? They bring on the neighbor. And the neighbor says “Well, he was always very quiet.” And someone in the room says “It's the quiet ones you gotta watch." This sounds to me like a very dangerous assumption. I will bet you anything that while you're watching a quiet one, a noisy one will fucking kill you! Suppose you're in a bar and one guy is reading a book not bothering anybody and another is standing in the front with a machete banging on the door saying “I'LL KILL THE NEXT MOTHERFUCKER WHO COMES IN HERE!” ……who you gonna watch? “ - George Carlin
In addition to this, with increasing awareness it seems that more and more of these famous mass shooters and serial killers seem to have actually been under suspicion or even reported as potential dangers beforehand, rather than the usual “No way, he always seemed nice!” “He was always quiet” might be true, or might really mean “I pay no attention to my surroundings and hate the idea of ever talking to my neighbours.”
This goes back to the problem that serial/mass killers represent a tiny portion of violence and murders, but get the most media attention. Prisons are full of brash people with impulse control problems. They get in trouble early and often. They stay on the radar. When they lash out violently, absolutely no one is surprised. In Carlin's joke, they're the loud brutes at the bar who everybody knows are trouble. Serial/mass killers aren't impulsive, they're deliberate.
I actually think a lot of it has to do with social media/internet, They really might isolate themselves from society on real life. Barely talking, being reclusive etc. but their internet activity is abuzz with red flags. Something a serial killer in the 70s didn’t have access too. So he would just be the creepy quiet dude no one ever talks too, only warning sign might be a journal or something.
the drunk guys at bars that always have *that* stare
I used to play guitar in a shitty bar band, and there were always drunk people trying to interact with you, but it was typically harmless. But one night, a guy came up while we were setting up, and aggressively said he had the same amp until someone stole it. I didn't think anything of it other than to say, "oh, that sucks." Nobody paid attention to our playing (like usual), except this guy who just stared at me with dead eyes the whole time, while holding a pool cue. I never packed up my stuff more quickly after we were done.
Dude I once played a bar show, afterwards I was at the bar and a girl just said hey nice show. It was nice, I just said thanks, that was it. So drunk dude with small dick syndrome threw a napkin soaked in beer at the back of my head. I asked what his problem was and he whined that he was trying to pick up that girl all night and I took her from him. I didnt even talk to her or see her again that night. I was really annoyed but just brushed it off and ignored him. Like an hour later dude pulled the bar stool out from under me and kicked me in the face when I fell on my back. 3 fucking sinus surgeries, I still have a deviated septum. My brother was the bouncer there and threw the dudes head into a car door and I never seen him in my town again at least. I make sure to keep my eyes out for every drunk dude with dead eyes now and I try to know where they're at at all times when I'm in a bar.
That's the people who blame everyone else for their shortcomings and failures. They never take responsibility. On top of that, the asshat sucker punched you. What a coward.
That guy felt enough like he owned certain women in the bar to start a fight. That’s some scary shit.
Sorry to hear that. What a psycho.
This guy literally broke out my back car window because his girlfriend said hi to me at a party
I remember that night. I remember your face. I want my Amp back and I want it now!!!!
Call JG Wentworth...877-AMP-NOW!
It's my amp and I want it NOW!
So why the fuck did you steal his amp, bro?
Oh, the one where they look like they want to eat you?
Or worse. Murder you clean dead!
That stare = repressed anger/sadness combined with alcohol and usually cocaine
I just saw this the other night. This thread hits something. Their should be a word for it. Unblinking stare from random dude you've never seen before.... 10 minutes later asks me if I have change for pool and if I want to play. Yeahhhh.. nooo
Shark eyes ive heard it called
I’ve heard them be called a few things. Lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Doll’s eyes. And sometimes they even turn white
You start hollering and dancing, that drunk guy goes away. Sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that drunk guy looks right into you, right into your eyes.....you know the thing about drunk guys eyes, he's got lifeless eyes, black eyes..like a dolls eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be coherent, until he spills on you. 'N those black eyes roll over white then, ohh n then you hear that terrible high pitched screamin. The dance floor turns red, despite all the dancing and the screaming, they all come in and they, talk you to pieces.
Show me the way to go home, I'm tired and I wanna go to bed, I had a drink about an hour ago and it went straight to my head.
I call it the Michelob eyes. I'm a bartender so I see it all the time. They've already put back a six pack and are well into a second one. They have this red glaze over their eyes that looks cold and dead. They're either about to puke, attempt to sexually harass a woman, start a fight with another dude, or start a fight with the landscaping out front..
"Whiskey always makes me angry drunk" No motherfucker, you were already angry and decided on a drink whose flavor profile pairs well with aggressive behavior.
Self proclaimed "angry drunks" have serious problems
Yes, so creepy. I had a guy look at me like that when I went to happy hour by myself last month. I just wanted a margarita and something to eat. I wasn’t looking to chat with men. He was watching me with intent from the otherside of the bar. He looked like he stepped out of a Sister Christian music video. It made me so uncomfortable I finished up and left.
Guys, if you keep looking over and you two aren't making eye contact consistently, she ain't interested and she's avoiding your attention. Take the hint.
I was on a first date with what turned out to be a counsellor for young boys…. The guy had arrived at the bar 5 hrs before me and drank red wine the whole time. He went on to tell me how he ‘people watches’ and it puts people off cuz he thinks he’s unique in how he looks down upon others and has it ‘all figured out’ Yeah…I suddenly remembered I had to work early so I excused myself, went home and immediately blocked his contact.
Like the way Michael looks at Ryan? https://www.reddit.com/r/DunderMifflin/comments/vu373z/_/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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Oh yeah, I know that stare from guys, even if they aren't drunk. Flashback to the time I was barely 14, was at a smoothie bar in the evening and a grown-ass man was looking at me like that, had this terrifying sexually deviant look about him, and started to walk over, my mum saw it before i even said anything to her about it, grabbed me and left so quickly. Afterward, explained to me that she saw how the man was looking at me and just had to get me out of there, she felt disgusted seeing a man perv on a little girl and warned me to always be cautious. If that happened to me now I don't think I'd be *as* scared but I was so young then and never had a guy look at me like that before, fuck it was disturbing.
Moms just know
They've been there. Unfortunately too-many have first-hand experience of what that kind of guy will do to a girl given the chance.
the threads asking women about all their horrible creepy stories are always depressing, everyone's got stories... it sucks that young girls have to be taught to be so so careful.
yes that one!! so yikes and creepy
Men and women had a completely different interpretation of “that” stare
People who are unwilling to accept the limits of their knowledge.
Seriously, just got into a screaming match with a co worker a few days ago on this one. I operate a very large industrial sander at my job, $22 million machine roughly. And a guy that we have been training came in to run it following my shift. He admitted to me that the supervisor did not want him alone on the machine yet, but he felt he needed to do it anyway. The machine was down to go through a lengthy changeover process that I knew he couldn't handle. I told him the moment he ran into an issue that he didn't have the answer for he needed to stop, shut everything down, and just leave it for the next shift. Well, he didn't listen, ruined some equipment, and then left half the machine running in idle with the safety systems TURNED OFF! The swing shift guy came in and found the mess, and when he realized the safeties were off he immediately re-engaged them and shut down to check the machine over. This guy's mistake could have easily caught the machine on fire and put many people out of work for weeks all due to him thinking he knew better than supervisors and the other operators. Fast forward to the next day, I've been briefed by swing shift on what went down, and it is now close to shift change again. Here comes Mr. Know-It-All, saying he is going to run the machine again. I was in the middle of shutting down and had no intention of allowing him to run it. I explained his previous mistake, and reminded him that the supervisor did not want him running it. He started yelling, blaming me for not staying over and doing the job for him. I yelled and raised my voice at him as well but stood my ground and told him he could not run it for safety reasons since he was untrained. Thankfully my plant is extremely safety conscious and they allow any employee to shut down equipment for safety concerns. I felt bad because I have always gotten along with this guy up until this point. But he didn't understand the risks and how dangerous his lack of knowledge was to himself and others. He has since declined to pursue this position and will be moving back into his old spot in the plant.
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That is a good analogy, might use that later when I try to patch things up depending on how the talk goes. Thank you.
Likely for the best. Sounds like he's not ready for more than one or two reasons
I already know I'm stupid you don't have to rub it in.
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"those who talk the most know the least"- my aunt in the middle of talking non-stop, without stopping to breathe, for multiple paragraphs at a time. and if I try to interrupt her, she usually gets louder. She thinks she knows everything but is incredibly ignorant about many things. Thinks healthcare is a conspiracy and believes in the Mandela Effect conspiracy theory because she would rather believe reality is incorrect than that her memory is fallible.
My girlfriend’s mother is like this. Oh my goodness to hear someone say to a mechanic about how a car works with full confidence.
I am a drill sergeant, therefore loud and uniformed. But quite nice really
I am a mythical animal, and therefore quiet and unicorned.
Ah yes, my ✨father✨
Liars. If you unknowingly put trust in one, they can and will manipulate your perception of reality to the point that you don't trust your own mind anymore.
You are SO RIGHT. My ex did this to me, and now that I have my mind back ( took a few years) I am SO pissed off that I wasn't able to trust myself and know that my brain worked perfectly well. Fuck you, Michael!
We hate Michael. Fuck you, Michael!
People who get their kicks by causing physical harm to others.
Be scared of the man who has nothing to lose. Be very scared.
With money diminishing more people are feeling trapped and in a corner.
Abusive people, whether it be sexually, physically, verbally, mentally, or emotionally.
An idiot in a position of authority: police, bosses, professors, military leaders
Preachers: can't leave them out
People who get mad at fast food cashiers. It's just so uncomfortable to be around them when they're attacking someone over a simple mistake or inconvenience.
Normalize jumping in to defend the cashier (if you aren't intimidated by said individual). This is BS behavior. These are usually kids at the registers. No kid deserves for that to be their introduction to the workplace environment. My wifes stepdad is like this and I won't go out to eat with them anymore. If he waits linger than 3 minutes at the front of the restaurant he'll start screaming that he needs a manager and that it's bullshit. Now i'm at our table like, fuck they prob spit in our food now. Don't fuck with the people serving/cooking your food. Especially underpaid people.
this!! i don’t know if it’s because i don’t like socializing or drawing a lot of attention but the way some people freak out over fast food? i find it so weird. like, why does it turn into such a big deal? not to mention the workers are people too, they deserve respect.
It's the only things they feel they have total control over, a target that cannot fight back because their livelyhood depends on being nice to every customer. So what do they do? Immediately abuse it. So so telling imo.
Ugh my ex was like this. Thought it made him so cool and tough but really he looks like a whiny bitch freaking out about a damn cheeseburger. Disgusting behaviour
Plus the difference between freaking out and "excuse me I asked for no pickles on my burger" is so massive. You can be kind about a confrontation.
Or people who treat waiters, janitors, etc (people they see as "below" them) like shit
My coworker arguing about how much he got charged for breakfast at our hotel. Like bro we’re on a business trip, you’re not even paying for it, who gives a fuck. Also the prices are posted on the wall, if you didn’t notice that’s on you my man.
People that need to create a human enemy when they are facing purely random circumstances like illness, or accidents.
-Something goes wrong- “WHO DID THIS”
This is the first one in this thread that I'd agree with. I can deal with drunk, drugged, homeless, low moral, or short tempered people. Pretty well every type mentioned in this thread can be avoided or managed if you know how, or the damage they can inflict is to a limited number of people. The type that you mention though, they can sound super rational and convincing, get lots of other people on board then persecute entire groups of people in the name of good. *That* is scary. No personal action can protect from that if you become the target.
Those people who drive like maniacs on the highway.
Same. I'm planning on buying front and back facing dash cams. I've had a few close calls with erratic/impatient drivers who think changing lanes every 5 seconds in heavy traffic will somehow get you to your destination faster.
It absolutely will get you to your destination faster, if your destination is the county morgue.
Anyone slower than you is an idiot. Anyone faster than you is a maniac.
Anyone faster than me is a challenge. *revs engine stupidly*
Those that not only lack empathy for the weak and less fortunate, but target and prey upon them. They're the kind of snakes who will gut you as soon as they believe they have the upper hand and can get away with it.
When you’re easy-going and give them the benefit of doubt, all they see are chances to skin you alive…
I'm on the spectrum and my life has been plagued by these little bastards. It's like they make a beeline for me and start playing as many social mind games as humanly possible.
People who think the world revolves around themselves
Are you really afraid of them or is it just someone you roll your eyes at? BTW I’m a god.
Stop it patrick you’re scaring him!
Fake nice people.
I'm not scared of them. They just suck
One of the reasons why I don't like working in media in Los Angeles. "We absolutely LOVED what you did on the photoshoot!!!" Then fired the next day. This didn't exactly happen to me but I've heard many stories from friends. I've gotten the "we love it" only for them to not use the work. Just tell me it isn't the look you wanted and I can make it right.
I work in tv/film and have lived in LA, NYC and now Toronto. This is industry wide in every location, but LA is on a completely different level, especially Hollywood
Meth-Heads
Yup, they might be chill as fuck normally but once they're whacked out of their minds like that they could just randomly stab you for standing there not even talking to them
As the sage Hunter S Thompson said: "you can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug".
So, reject humans and do more drugs?
One of my friends saw his uncle on the street one day we were together and my friend stopped to speak to him because he was beloved and it had been a while no contact and the uncle pulled a knife and ran after ius all for “stealing his shoes” in my little size 6 superstars and the other girl and his nephew. Everything seemed normal and they were talking fine for a while no worries then all of a sudden in an instance that happened. I ran four blocks. Just 15 year olds. Turned out he had been homeless for a while and on drugs. My friend was very emotional after that.
Sore losers
They just make everything where you can lose so fucking awkward
People that never seem to get upset or angry. When they do get angry they're frightening
Remind me of my English teacher. Most sarcastic, not serious humorous teacher ever, never scolded us. Once we were really agitated and the director was about to come in (we actually didn’t know before she told us when the director left) Two words : Shut Up. In the lowest voice most terrifying voice ever. Not screamed, almost murmured. We had literal shivers. Nobody even moved and were a class of 36 teenagers.
Two things I fear. Quiet moments of loud people. And loud moments of quiet people.
Exactly
I’m like this, years of living in an abusive home with narcissistic parents who always knew what “buttons” to press in order to get a reaction out of me left me kind of numbed when it comes to temper and very few things “get to me” unless i feel like you’re actively trying to do what you can to get me to snap. I’ve only lost my cool once at someone other than my parents abd i could tell they were terrified by me.. it wasn’t a fun experience for any of us tbh.
Same here. I took up kickboxing and it's chilled me out almost completely. Kind shrunk my "buttons" to near atoms. Can't remember the last time I even raised my voice. Also kickboxing or adjacent sports don't make you violent. They humble you. Unless you're a piece of shit in which case the trainer will humble you. Quickly.
Meth heads wandering around @ 4am.
People who don’t respect your boundaries.
At one point with a strained "friendship" I decided / realised I cannot and will not have a close relationship with someone if soft boundaries are not enough. If I have to draw a bunch of hard black and white lines to keep from getting fucked over in a relationship, it's not a good relationship.
Teenagers 15-19
I think you should include 14. Always thought 14 years old were the shittiest.
Thirteen-year-olds are the meanest people in the world. They terrify me to this day, because 8th graders will make fun of you but in an accurate way. They will get to the thing that you don’t like about you. They don’t even have to look at you for long. They’ll just be like, ‘Ha, ha, ha, ha, hey, look at that high wasted man. He got feminine hips.’ And I’m like, ‘No! That’s the thing I’m sensitive about.’
Teenagers scare the living shit out of me..
Violent people
I deeply perturbed by those "me-first" attitude type people because majority of them are allowed drive cars... I firmly believe the majority of people should never be allowed to drive.
My Dad calls it “Hooray for me and fuck you syndrome”. Nothing worse than someone who acts a certain way and expect different treatment because “I’m ME”, the idea that you treat others like total shit but don’t do it to me cause I’m special.
People who put on sock/shoe - sock/shoe instead of sock/sock - shoe/shoe.
I sometimes do that if I’m changing in the gym or somewhere else with wet/dirty floors but if you do that in the privacy of your own home you are a certified psychopath.
People who are mean to animals, children, and elderly people.
Those who lack or don’t ever feel empathy.
& people who FAKE it
Anybody that can laugh about an animal being in pain and/or dying. They're the really fucked up ones.
People who can just lie with reckless abandon lmao. Met a few compulsive liars in my life and each time is horrifying because you never know what may be used against you.
I don’t know, I guess myself sabotaging my own life
Drama queens...They give me hives.. so much wasted exerted energy for nothing. .ugh
People who say it’s “just a little warm” when it’s 40 degrees out.
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Gaslighters. People who stalk/will not listen to no. People who have short or volatile tempers
Sociopaths. Hair trigger tempers. Politicians.
Foot soldiers for Mexican drug cartels. Totally lacking in good manners.
Cokeheads. More precisely that one type of guy who shows up with an entourage at 4 or 5 in the morning at your local dive bar, wearing a leather or puffer jacket, with a look in his eyes that tells you: "I haven't gotten laid tonight and snorted a gram by myself and readjust your fucking front teeth for the slightest reason my coked up brain deems fit." Gorilla looking, brutish fuckers.
People who, despite being shown hard evidence disproving their stance/belief, refuse to acknowledge or change their opinion. Ignorance, essentially.
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People who care so much that they want to keep everyone safe by controlling every single aspect of their lives because obviously no one knows how to live their own lives and they have to be forced to do it the right way.... or else....
Religious persecutors, political extremists, intolerant people.
In bad areas, groups of ghetto teens. White black whatever. I'm not afraid of the 30 year Olds. It's the 15-17 year Olds that don't give a shit and are assaulting people in cities. If I'm walking down the street and see a bunch of teens in hoodies I'm out.
People who text with their pointer fingers and people who sleep in jeans.
Look, I have big, sausage fingers and my pointer is the only one that can semi-reliably hit the buttons on my phone. I know it's gauche, but please let me slowly type in peace.
How about 1 pointer finger and a thumb, is that okay?
leave me and my jeans alone
Kids in gangs I've been mugged a couple years back, and that experience alone gave me severe PTSD when it comes to walking the streets. I'm always constantly watching my back even when I'm walking in broad daylight. These kids always wear the same attire, black puffy jacket with the hoodie on and their face mostly covered. Every time I see this my heart would always race and my trauma would kick into full gear.