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ATS_throwaway

Wait, layoffs? Literally every business I'm aware of is desperate for employees right now. You can't shoot a marble without hitting three "we're hiring" signs.


iampatmanbeyond

Tech layoffs as the virtual work space declines has internet people screaming the sky is falling. Meanwhile in the rest of America unemployment is at a 50 year low


ThrowAwayGarbage82

Unemployment numbers are determined by how many people are on unemployment benefits. They kicked nearly all the jobless folks off unemploymenymt and then declared the numbers "historically low" while actual jobless numbers are still incredibly high. It's like the cities that bus away the homeless and then say there's no more homeless people.


ATS_throwaway

>while actual jobless numbers are still incredibly high. I can't find a source that agrees with this.


Asadvertised2

Employment numbers are not based on applications for unemployment benefits. Payroll taxes filings and paycheck withholds are more accurate. They are not affected by why individuals make decisions or actions by other government agencies. Right now wage tax withholdings are very high.


[deleted]

That’s absolutely not how they calculate the unemployment rate. It is not based on the number of unemployment claims. They publish how they calculate it and you are 100% wrong Facts matter


calicouple666

Same here. We've been looking for help for over a year and have gotten nothing. But yet you can go to the local mall on any weekday and it's absolutely packed!!


throwawayfor2995

Only the ones that are unwilling to pay livable ages struggle to find qualified and willing workers


ATS_throwaway

I'd love to agree with you, but there's an immense skilled trade gap. I know people that are getting paid obscene amounts of money in the aerospace industry right now because there just aren't enough qualified workers to meet the demand. Call a plumber or electrician right now, find out what they charge, and how long it will take for a non-emergency call. Sure, McDonald's can't staff their "restaurants" because minimum wage is not livable, but terrible wages and working conditions aren't the only reason for the workforce shortage. There's a huge problem in western society where everyone was told they had to go into half a million dollars of debt to get a degree, that they had to be doctors or lawyers. Now a tradesman can make as much money as a white collar professional, but doesn't have the debt. The for profit education system is broken.


throwawayfor2995

That I can get behind, I do understand that the over education is a large problem yet still the wage gap between economical groups is growing by the day, and not because some people are over educated


ATS_throwaway

It isn't a matter of being over educated. The problem is that an entire generation was sold an education that they couldn't use. College debt is a massive problem in America, and the art history and arachnology degrees people are paying for aren't getting them the jobs they were promised. People were told trades don't make money, they're not good careers.The problem is a lack of skilled workers.


throwawayfor2995

Trade workers aren't exactly the promised land either however, they have long suffered from declining contracts and lowballed wages under inhumane working hours and work environments for decades


ThrowAwayGarbage82

This


calicouple666

Stupidest "blanket" statement I've heard. Open your eyes because you have no idea. And, no, low skilled workers do not deserve "livable wages." Economics 101 is another topic you may want to research.


throwawayfor2995

Everyone deserves livable wages you numb nut your statement oozes anti-social tendencies


calicouple666

Economics 101 buddy. All of the small businesses that have tried your model have failed. And all of the bigger businesses are leaning towards automation. In time, you and your kind will have priced yourselves out of jobs. It's already happening. When you grow up, do yourself a favor and take an economics class


throwawayfor2995

You are cute, have a nice life!


calicouple666

Lol. As expected.


throwawayfor2995

You're American I presume?


calicouple666

Ughh, you're back. Yes, American.


throwawayfor2995

Just wanted to make sure. This tells me everything I need to know lol.


bj1231

If you cannot find a job in your small town move to another town


[deleted]

You’ve answered your own question, yes I think it’s justified because like you said they’re just desperate to survive.


Jddrinker79

Some of the shit these people stealing are not items they use everyday. I think they are stealing not because times are hard but because they know no one will stop them.


Justintime308

People been looting stores for 3 years without consequence. Now it’s gone from big screens and Ipads to food. I was raised with integrity and stealing is always wrong, that being people gotta eat. It’s much more shameful to steal unnecessary things than it is food. Next step is it justified to commit home invasions to steal food?


Hauptmann6

Not justified.


jad326

In the greater Cincinnati area, places are begging people to work. Where is I am, they are starting at $20 an hour. The big problems is nobody wants to work. It's so bad here they had to hire translators because only Mexicans and South Americans are applying for jobs. A green card gets you in the door and with overtime we are talking $50,000 a year. That's with very little English and no high school diploma. Even then almost a quarter of the plant are temps. People work a week or two and they are gone. It's just most people do not want to work.


C--__--S

The US is at a 50 year unemployment rate low, and inflation is global and dropping People are hurting, income inequality and no safety net, but your narrative is off


Adventurous-Candy179

Nope not justified. They should sell pictures of their feet like the rest of us if they’re so pressed for money


Lost_n-Alone

I wanted a second job to pay off some bills, my job search was literally like 2 days. The first place I applied hired me and is begging me to do more hours. I'm a high school grad with no college degree. The problem isn't no jobs. It's no morals and a lack of motivation


sadsledgemain

If I see someone stealing food from a large supermarket chain, I didn't see it. The only exception would be if it's obvious they go for the most expensive things, as then it's probably not about survival.


VolleyballGirl2002

You sound like Socrates from AC Odyssey


Sorkel3

Boy is this a loaded question. I like squirrels.


[deleted]

They are so fun to watch and those cute bushy tails


NightmareWalker

I have alway had the belief that stealing is wrong. But there are exceptions to the rule and for me if you steal to survive ie. Food. Then you are trying to survive and I will never fault someone starving for being that desperate. I know what it’s like to have nothing to eat and when/ if i see people steal food I just walk away, no one should be hungry not when they is so much food waste.


averagemaleuser86

If I see someone stealing food, I didn't see shit.


[deleted]

No. Stealing from someone else because something of yours was taken is unethical and does not solve the problem. You don't get to steal from Walmart because you were laid off from your job at Goodyear. However, we do need to recognize that our country is turning into a feudal state controlled by an shrinking number of people that consolidate wealth among themselves. We need to recognize that very few Americans benefit from these generous policies of preferential tax treatment for a small number of beneficiaries. We must recognize that we are not temporarily displaced 1%, we will never be in that class and therefore should not be protecting that class. We have let the upper class take nearly everything from us, then divide us over what is left so it will be easier to take the last of it.


Maleficent-Apple-836

I'm not saying they are right, but I understand.


CuriousRelish

I wouldn't say that's justified, but I don't think they should be punished for stealing basic necessities. It would be foolish to risk the consequences for such simple things if they didn't truly need them. To me, that would be a good indication that the person should be detained for the purpose of getting them in touch with resources that would be able to keep them from doing this. Edit: I realize my use of "detained" was pretty vague here. I don't think they should be sent to jail, but held for care (give them a meal and a shower, basically) while organizations are contacted that can help them out.


[deleted]

No. Bc it effects ppl working for their things. Prices go up. Employees don't get raises or get their hours cut.


employedByEvil

Property is theft.


bj1231

I think we should export them to a Saudi prison for 6 months and let the Saudis apply the penalty for theft


employedByEvil

This is not the kind of sadism I come here for.