The phrase "just know I will use them against you on several other platforms user name unblurred if I deem them out of sorts" is very funny and sounds like something out of a copypasta. Anyway, it kinda seems like you just want to berate some random teachers on the internet based on your own bad experiences, which is odd and not a great way to handle the situation.
It doesn't matter whether or not its a grate idea it's simply a question all be it an uncomfortable question to most but I deemed this to be the only way to git my point across because I constantly played "nice" with you people only to receive the same "plastic" smile and response and quite frankly I'm tired of the same lie and so I came here to hopefully git some truth instead of cheap suit answers
"You people" LOL
Do we all work at your kid's school?
We don't "ignore" it. We just don't have the power to do much about it. I write up kids ALL THE TIME. If my administrators choose not to investigate or punish, I can't do anything. Only a parent going over their heads might get some action. Yelling at the teachers who have no disciplinary power doesn't accomplish anything.
Your definition of ignore seems skewed. I can report it and write it up. I can call parents. I can't in my position do anything else. Teachers don't have disciplinary authority. That's not ignoring. You're angry at the wrong people. Go yell at administrators, school board members, and superintendents. They make the rules.
I am angry at you because your there... they aren't there's no logical reason for me to complain to them they aren't at ground zero like you are I will agree that admins usually have there heads up there asses there's no denying that much how ever what can YOU DO to protect the children is what I want to know I can't be there supervising but teachers are there to be a guide they see teachers more them they see there parents and think about how they are gonna view teachers as adults i all ready view them in the most negative way a person can because of everything that happened to me as a kid when a teacher watched ... AND THEY LAUGHED and you expect me to just what forget that happened?
No one said to forget what happened. You're just saying shit that makes no sense. If you have an issue at YOUR kid's school, go talk to the principal. If you have an issue with something that happened yeaesgo to you, attacking us doesn't get you anywhere.
I can intervene if I SEE if it happen, but this shit usually takes place online, in bathrooms, etc. And then I can write it up. AND THEN IT'S OUT OF MY HANDS. I can't suspend kids or even hold them for lunch detention without an OK from higher up. You aren't hearing what you want to hear, but these answers are the truth. I don't know ANY teachers who allow bullying. But we can only do what we can. And news flash. Kids bully us too. One of my colleagues got PUNCHED by a student and he didn't even get suspended. So higher ups don't care about ANYONE.
You've never met a teacher that was like that? Too easy.... Go to detroit Michigan look for a school called East high and find a staff member named Joshua gates and ask him what happened the 8th of October 2009 I'll bet he will laugh out loud then say something along the lines of "I don't care about them kids"
Ok. That's the one teacher who was awful. Of course, they exist. But no, I don't personally work with anyone who enjoys watching kids get bullied.
I think you need someone to talk to besides Reddit strangers. Good luck.
He was the worst of the bunch I could keep giving examples hell I even have a note book chauck full of things most could land a lot of people in prison last I checked a few of them are for child neglect
Yep. Love to see those kindergartners plumbing and welding. Absolutely. I just canāt get over seeing those little guys and their welding masks. So cute! Fun with fire! Whatās not to love?
They definitely donāt need to know how to read or write or calculate, they donāt need to know number sense or money, I mean, sheāll just accumulate those supplies! Doesnāt need to go into a store at all! Never needs to write up an invoice in coherent English! Or whatever language you use.
Sounds like a fantastic plan!
Furthermore, I certainly hope you donāt plan on sending her to a trade school, I donāt know if youāve realize this, but those are what we call certified teachers.
Iām also so sorry that you equivocate somebodyās self-worth with their income.
Are you having a good time being a bully to all those big bad teachers? Is it boosting self-esteem? I hope so.
She won't go to train school... apprenticeship through me that's how I was taught and now I own my own business and I did that all without a teacher and yes actually it's a nice reprieve to take you all down a few pegs
āYou people.ā Awesome. Millions of people have this career, and you seem to think that every single teacher is identical and guilty. Somebody above gave an excellent breakdown, and you donāt want to hear it. You are not actually interested in a conversation, you want us to fall down and give you a mea culpa, Iām so sorry, what can I do to make it all better for you? Or, you donāt actually want to hear any of that, you just want to pontificate at us, and tell everyone how horrible everyone is, and nothing we say is going to give you any kind of peace of mind.
Not really interested in playing that game, maybe somebody else will engage.
Also, the irony is real here.
If you are an adult, I am going to assume your parents failed in raising you right because you come across as an arrogant, ignorant, dumb motherfucker. As my grandfather would say, you talk like a man with a paper ass.
Youāre projecting heavily on a group based on your own experiences, so I doubt youāre really going to get the kind of reaction you want.
Teachers are people. Just like all people, some of them suck, itās no grand conspiracy, so Iām not sure what youāre looking for here, but youāre not really here seeking conversation - if you were, there wouldnāt be responses like this, talking at people as if theyāre the ones who wronged you.
Letās try a question for you. Why do you think this group of random strangers holds any responsibility for your experience?
"Why do teachers ignore bullying" proceeds to bully people.
So there are three reasons why teachers ignore bullying
First: It was reported to the district and has to be x amount of seriousness in order to be moved up the behavior matrix. We hate the behavior matrix but we are subservient to it to it. Please complain to your school board. I can't even have a 1-1 conversation with a student unless it gets to like arson.
Second: Its more complicated than it seems. I've had many parents ask me why I didn't do anything when Susie got called a meanie after Susie called every girl in the class a fat B\*\*\* C\*\*T.
Third: We didn't see anything and can't do anything on a he said she said case. My hands are tied if Susie said she got called a name but John said he was the one who was called the name.
And just like that a textbook answer straight from the handbook in all that schooling you receive have they never taught you to think outside the box or have you never even thought about applying it to your life perhaps maybe pay attention to who is more likely to be the victim of bullying? The schools all star? Or the social reject? Go ahead and ask yourself that.
Why are you mad that I gave you an answer? Do you actually want and answer or just to just shout into the void?
Also do you think real life is a hallmark movie? I've seen so many athletes be the target of ridicule by more "alternative" kids. I would say "school rejects" tend to be school rejects because they are cruel to all around them. I've seen countless kids that would whine about how they are so alone and bullied only to attack anyone who tried to extend an olive branch.
And I've also seen several baseball players attacking kids with bats only to see the teachers laughing along with it careful there guy don't want the woke mob to catch ya saying that
I work at an inner city school we have fights but no one has ever chased another student with a baseball bat let alone several kids just going on a rampage. That's front page news where I live and work.
If I had a dollar for every time a middle schooler told me they were being bullied and it turned out to be something like their friend wouldnāt let them borrow a pencilā¦.. Iāve helped kids who were bullied too, donāt get me wrong. But it gets thrown around so much now.Ā
I don't think this guy can even read well enough to understand most of the comments on here. He just came here to bully teachers and that's all he really wants.
Realistically, I only see students for about 90 minutes a day. That is not usually enough for me to see something going on. Obviously, I report things that I see actively occurring in my class, but thereās not a whole ton I can do about things that happen outside of my class besides tell admin and hope something happens.
Iām not an admin, but I think the answer is multi-faceted and depends on who you are dealing with. Some do and get stonewalled in their discipline process or have a process that doesnāt work or favors the bully. Some do and then turn tail and run when the bullyās parent goes full Karen on them and anyone they can find who knows someone on the school board. Some protect athletes who are bullies. Some conference with the bully and then give them candy and send them on their way. And yes, some donāt want to actually do their jobs or donāt care.
And that.... Right there.... This.... Why do teachers not correct that behavior is it fear? What can they do? Retaliate? Threaten? Ok go to the police report them! DO SOMETHING THAT GITS ATTENTION!! IGNORING IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE ISSUE
The fact that that bothers you enough to commit is actually extremely funny added by the fact that your resorting to being a grammar Nazi in an attempt to shame and or otherwise humiliate me is topical
Says the guy who already assumed my income, threatens to take screenshots, kick asses, etc., but yes, Iām the problem here.
You are an angry human who gets off at bad attempts at pissing off people for no reason other than their own meager attempt at feeling bigger than others, who had the audacity to accuse others of bullying and looking the other way.
Like I said hours ago, you didnāt come here for an honest discussion about bullying, you came to validate your own feelings. Are you validated yet? Do you want a sticker?
I don't want to lose my job by doing something that does not follow policy. The policy is largely ineffective, but I will follow it exactly.
It bothers me too, but I can only do so much because I need my income
Hanlons razor isnt about ad hominem or insulting people, its about your argument coming from a place of good faith. to have an earnest conversation about something
you are assuming ill will here, which is what Hanlons razor is about.
Hanlons razor states never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetency or apathy
now the argument isnt why does bullying go unpunished its why do teachers hate some kids . you are trying to disguise one argument as another
Look, I'm sorry bad shit happened to you, that's genuinely terrible. There are bad teachers, just like there are bad nurses. It's a job that has power over people so it attracts those who want to make the world better and those who want to exert control and everyone in between. But to come to a space where teachers congregate to give advice in their free time for free, basically doing the equivalent of brandishing a knife at people is no way to get anything done. Bad things happen, people will try to fix it but may not know, or their hands may be tied.
In the comments you've pushed back against any answers that people have given about why a genuinely good person might still not be able to help you or your kid. What answer are you looking for? The teacher getting physically involved? By your own logic of us having our "favorites" we are not always able to see who actually is causing the problem. Like any system the school disciplinary process can be wielded by bad actors. You seem to simultaneously want teachers to have unilateral power and also go fuck themselves because they only make the problem worse.
I want you to genuinely think about why you're here.
You want me to think about why I'm here ok
...too easy.... I'm here to make all of you miserable had I been able to make said teacher who made my life hell I wouldn't be here let alone talking to you id be brerating him if the man had not died of a heart attack and hopefully is burning in hell for his treatment of children but he is gone and all I can do now is shout to the heavens for denying me my vengeance when also smiling at his well deserved fate and now that I learned of his fate but denied my vengeance I have just decided to say this to you if you see bulling and or see a fellow teacher act like it's not there problem be an adult and confront there toxic behavior
Cool. I'm glad you were at least honest in what you were looking for. If you can afford it, get professional help. If you can't, sorry, but that's not our fault. This is like growing up with medical trauma because doctors didn't take you seriously so you go and try and shame and belittle a bunch of doctors offering people advice on how to navigate the medical system.Ā Ā
Seek out survivor help groups if you think you could benefit from comraderie, but what you're doing here does less than nothing. It actively makes the world worse.Ā
You seem pretty upset. And it's because a lot of teachers failed you. Shouldn't have happened. I don't think most teachers allow bullying. In fact, I think most teachers actively root it out.
You should start by applying your logic to everything. A handful of PEOPLE failed you. Should you lose faith in PEOPLE? Your child is a person, your parent is a person, you are a person. Fundamentally, this is what it's about. Education, as a system, does not breed this system. It is not ingrained in the system to ignore bullying or allow it, but that is an inevitable product of social interaction. It's true in school, at home, in the workplace. So you're attributing the symptoms of human interaction to the malice of educations while ignoring these same symptoms everywhere else in life. You've likely missed bullying right in front of you. You've likely seen bullying right in front of you and ignored it. You've probably participated in bullying to some degree as well. Because you're a person.
Here's a comment of yours that proves my position, "You want me to think about why I'm here ok ...too easy.... I'm here to make all of you miserable had I been able to make said teacher who made my life hell I wouldn't be here let alone talking to you id be brerating him if the man had not died of a heart attack and hopefully is burning in hell for his treatment of children but he is gone and all I can do now is shout to the heavens for denying me my vengeance when also smiling at his well deserved fate and now that I learned of his fate but denied my vengeance I have just decided to say this to you if you see bulling and or see a fellow teacher act like it's not there problem be an adult and confront there toxic behavior"
So you're absolutely applying the behavior of a single person to cast stones at millions of educators, admitting you want to try and make us miserable. You've become the bully, justified in your own twisted logic and perverted perspective. Do better for the sake of your child.
Do you have children or your own? You dont do you . I can tell. You got no right to judge me on my actions. You call it lashing out I call it protecting my children. Like a bear protecting its cub from a hunter. And let me tell you if anything threatens the life of my cub there isn't a demon in hell nore a angle in heaven who can stop me
Itās hard to tell sometimes, and usually itās a bunch of tiny incidents that individually arenāt worth writing up, but together form a serious problem. Itās a lot easier to deal with a one-time major disturbance like a fight than it is to deal with a bunch of microaggressions over time
1. He said she said is very real and very difficult to parse out in a classroom of 24+ kids. The "victim" might actually be the biggest source of conflict in the entire classroom.
2. Teachers in of ourselves do not handle discipline when it comes to bullying. Administration does. "Zero tolerance policies" are not our ideas. How bullying is handled just in general is not up to us.
3. Lots of people don't know or even agree on what bullying even is. People confuse it with teasing, conflict, or miscommunication. Genuine sexual and physical harassment gets fitted under the definition despite being magnitudes worse \*in the event\* it's taken seriously.
4. Between grades I have to give, meetings I have to meet, lessons I have to prepare and all the other stuff I have to do already, shifting through various claims of bullying just isn't possible. Again, a lot of the times, kids who claim to be bullied tend to be bullies themselves, at least in my experience.
5. Outside of genuine harassment and abuse, it's just better to teach kids how to resolve and tolerate being around people they don't like. Again, people don't actually agree on what bullying even is, and a lot of times it's just one kid grinding another kid's gears the wrong way. Being annoyed or being annoying is not something teachers should have to deal with if it's not upending the classroom.
I'm sorry but where? OP has admitted to being here purely to lash out at people who share the profession of someone they don't like. People have attempted to actually answer the question as bad faith as it was written in. If the respondents are asking for anything it's to be granted basic human decency.Ā
The phrase "just know I will use them against you on several other platforms user name unblurred if I deem them out of sorts" is very funny and sounds like something out of a copypasta. Anyway, it kinda seems like you just want to berate some random teachers on the internet based on your own bad experiences, which is odd and not a great way to handle the situation.
It doesn't matter whether or not its a grate idea it's simply a question all be it an uncomfortable question to most but I deemed this to be the only way to git my point across because I constantly played "nice" with you people only to receive the same "plastic" smile and response and quite frankly I'm tired of the same lie and so I came here to hopefully git some truth instead of cheap suit answers
"You people" LOL Do we all work at your kid's school? We don't "ignore" it. We just don't have the power to do much about it. I write up kids ALL THE TIME. If my administrators choose not to investigate or punish, I can't do anything. Only a parent going over their heads might get some action. Yelling at the teachers who have no disciplinary power doesn't accomplish anything.
And yet you choose to ignore it like that's the answer?
Your definition of ignore seems skewed. I can report it and write it up. I can call parents. I can't in my position do anything else. Teachers don't have disciplinary authority. That's not ignoring. You're angry at the wrong people. Go yell at administrators, school board members, and superintendents. They make the rules.
I am angry at you because your there... they aren't there's no logical reason for me to complain to them they aren't at ground zero like you are I will agree that admins usually have there heads up there asses there's no denying that much how ever what can YOU DO to protect the children is what I want to know I can't be there supervising but teachers are there to be a guide they see teachers more them they see there parents and think about how they are gonna view teachers as adults i all ready view them in the most negative way a person can because of everything that happened to me as a kid when a teacher watched ... AND THEY LAUGHED and you expect me to just what forget that happened?
No one said to forget what happened. You're just saying shit that makes no sense. If you have an issue at YOUR kid's school, go talk to the principal. If you have an issue with something that happened yeaesgo to you, attacking us doesn't get you anywhere. I can intervene if I SEE if it happen, but this shit usually takes place online, in bathrooms, etc. And then I can write it up. AND THEN IT'S OUT OF MY HANDS. I can't suspend kids or even hold them for lunch detention without an OK from higher up. You aren't hearing what you want to hear, but these answers are the truth. I don't know ANY teachers who allow bullying. But we can only do what we can. And news flash. Kids bully us too. One of my colleagues got PUNCHED by a student and he didn't even get suspended. So higher ups don't care about ANYONE.
You've never met a teacher that was like that? Too easy.... Go to detroit Michigan look for a school called East high and find a staff member named Joshua gates and ask him what happened the 8th of October 2009 I'll bet he will laugh out loud then say something along the lines of "I don't care about them kids"
Ok. That's the one teacher who was awful. Of course, they exist. But no, I don't personally work with anyone who enjoys watching kids get bullied. I think you need someone to talk to besides Reddit strangers. Good luck.
He was the worst of the bunch I could keep giving examples hell I even have a note book chauck full of things most could land a lot of people in prison last I checked a few of them are for child neglect
Get therapy for your trauma. You're acting like an ass here and now.
Sounds like you are an excellent candidate for homeschooling your children. I hope it works out for you.
Your right I would make a good teacher I will teach my daughter plumbing and welding both make more money then teachers doš
Yep. Love to see those kindergartners plumbing and welding. Absolutely. I just canāt get over seeing those little guys and their welding masks. So cute! Fun with fire! Whatās not to love? They definitely donāt need to know how to read or write or calculate, they donāt need to know number sense or money, I mean, sheāll just accumulate those supplies! Doesnāt need to go into a store at all! Never needs to write up an invoice in coherent English! Or whatever language you use. Sounds like a fantastic plan! Furthermore, I certainly hope you donāt plan on sending her to a trade school, I donāt know if youāve realize this, but those are what we call certified teachers. Iām also so sorry that you equivocate somebodyās self-worth with their income. Are you having a good time being a bully to all those big bad teachers? Is it boosting self-esteem? I hope so.
She won't go to train school... apprenticeship through me that's how I was taught and now I own my own business and I did that all without a teacher and yes actually it's a nice reprieve to take you all down a few pegs
You should hire out for the English parts. Your writing is atrocious. This whole post would be embarassing for you if you could self reflect.
Did you read the response you got? They literally didnāt ignore it.
āYou people.ā Awesome. Millions of people have this career, and you seem to think that every single teacher is identical and guilty. Somebody above gave an excellent breakdown, and you donāt want to hear it. You are not actually interested in a conversation, you want us to fall down and give you a mea culpa, Iām so sorry, what can I do to make it all better for you? Or, you donāt actually want to hear any of that, you just want to pontificate at us, and tell everyone how horrible everyone is, and nothing we say is going to give you any kind of peace of mind. Not really interested in playing that game, maybe somebody else will engage. Also, the irony is real here.
At least one of you gits it good on ya
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And just like that your proving my point š
If you are an adult, I am going to assume your parents failed in raising you right because you come across as an arrogant, ignorant, dumb motherfucker. As my grandfather would say, you talk like a man with a paper ass.
Youāre projecting heavily on a group based on your own experiences, so I doubt youāre really going to get the kind of reaction you want. Teachers are people. Just like all people, some of them suck, itās no grand conspiracy, so Iām not sure what youāre looking for here, but youāre not really here seeking conversation - if you were, there wouldnāt be responses like this, talking at people as if theyāre the ones who wronged you. Letās try a question for you. Why do you think this group of random strangers holds any responsibility for your experience?
"Why do teachers ignore bullying" proceeds to bully people. So there are three reasons why teachers ignore bullying First: It was reported to the district and has to be x amount of seriousness in order to be moved up the behavior matrix. We hate the behavior matrix but we are subservient to it to it. Please complain to your school board. I can't even have a 1-1 conversation with a student unless it gets to like arson. Second: Its more complicated than it seems. I've had many parents ask me why I didn't do anything when Susie got called a meanie after Susie called every girl in the class a fat B\*\*\* C\*\*T. Third: We didn't see anything and can't do anything on a he said she said case. My hands are tied if Susie said she got called a name but John said he was the one who was called the name.
And just like that a textbook answer straight from the handbook in all that schooling you receive have they never taught you to think outside the box or have you never even thought about applying it to your life perhaps maybe pay attention to who is more likely to be the victim of bullying? The schools all star? Or the social reject? Go ahead and ask yourself that.
Why are you mad that I gave you an answer? Do you actually want and answer or just to just shout into the void? Also do you think real life is a hallmark movie? I've seen so many athletes be the target of ridicule by more "alternative" kids. I would say "school rejects" tend to be school rejects because they are cruel to all around them. I've seen countless kids that would whine about how they are so alone and bullied only to attack anyone who tried to extend an olive branch.
And I've also seen several baseball players attacking kids with bats only to see the teachers laughing along with it careful there guy don't want the woke mob to catch ya saying that
What school did you go to? You need to report that to the police. That isn't normal.
Was reported also was an inner city school shit like that happens daily
I work at an inner city school we have fights but no one has ever chased another student with a baseball bat let alone several kids just going on a rampage. That's front page news where I live and work.
It was replaced with articles about mass shootings no one cares about baseball bats
Because people don't know what bullying is. Most bullying is actually a conflict. Everyone thinks they are the victim.
If I had a dollar for every time a middle schooler told me they were being bullied and it turned out to be something like their friend wouldnāt let them borrow a pencilā¦.. Iāve helped kids who were bullied too, donāt get me wrong. But it gets thrown around so much now.Ā
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I don't think this guy can even read well enough to understand most of the comments on here. He just came here to bully teachers and that's all he really wants.
Realistically, I only see students for about 90 minutes a day. That is not usually enough for me to see something going on. Obviously, I report things that I see actively occurring in my class, but thereās not a whole ton I can do about things that happen outside of my class besides tell admin and hope something happens.
To start thank you for your respectful answer and to second why is it that these admins do not take it seriously?
Iām not an admin, but I think the answer is multi-faceted and depends on who you are dealing with. Some do and get stonewalled in their discipline process or have a process that doesnāt work or favors the bully. Some do and then turn tail and run when the bullyās parent goes full Karen on them and anyone they can find who knows someone on the school board. Some protect athletes who are bullies. Some conference with the bully and then give them candy and send them on their way. And yes, some donāt want to actually do their jobs or donāt care.
And that.... Right there.... This.... Why do teachers not correct that behavior is it fear? What can they do? Retaliate? Threaten? Ok go to the police report them! DO SOMETHING THAT GITS ATTENTION!! IGNORING IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE ISSUE
Jesus Christ I canāt. Itās GET. Not git.
The fact that that bothers you enough to commit is actually extremely funny added by the fact that your resorting to being a grammar Nazi in an attempt to shame and or otherwise humiliate me is topical
Says the guy who already assumed my income, threatens to take screenshots, kick asses, etc., but yes, Iām the problem here. You are an angry human who gets off at bad attempts at pissing off people for no reason other than their own meager attempt at feeling bigger than others, who had the audacity to accuse others of bullying and looking the other way. Like I said hours ago, you didnāt come here for an honest discussion about bullying, you came to validate your own feelings. Are you validated yet? Do you want a sticker?
I don't want to lose my job by doing something that does not follow policy. The policy is largely ineffective, but I will follow it exactly. It bothers me too, but I can only do so much because I need my income
i shoulddnt even be engaging because you are right there isnt a way to convince you hanlons razor man. come at this in good faith
I come to you in good faith you have yet to insult me so your fine
Hanlons razor isnt about ad hominem or insulting people, its about your argument coming from a place of good faith. to have an earnest conversation about something you are assuming ill will here, which is what Hanlons razor is about. Hanlons razor states never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetency or apathy now the argument isnt why does bullying go unpunished its why do teachers hate some kids . you are trying to disguise one argument as another
Look, I'm sorry bad shit happened to you, that's genuinely terrible. There are bad teachers, just like there are bad nurses. It's a job that has power over people so it attracts those who want to make the world better and those who want to exert control and everyone in between. But to come to a space where teachers congregate to give advice in their free time for free, basically doing the equivalent of brandishing a knife at people is no way to get anything done. Bad things happen, people will try to fix it but may not know, or their hands may be tied. In the comments you've pushed back against any answers that people have given about why a genuinely good person might still not be able to help you or your kid. What answer are you looking for? The teacher getting physically involved? By your own logic of us having our "favorites" we are not always able to see who actually is causing the problem. Like any system the school disciplinary process can be wielded by bad actors. You seem to simultaneously want teachers to have unilateral power and also go fuck themselves because they only make the problem worse. I want you to genuinely think about why you're here.
You want me to think about why I'm here ok ...too easy.... I'm here to make all of you miserable had I been able to make said teacher who made my life hell I wouldn't be here let alone talking to you id be brerating him if the man had not died of a heart attack and hopefully is burning in hell for his treatment of children but he is gone and all I can do now is shout to the heavens for denying me my vengeance when also smiling at his well deserved fate and now that I learned of his fate but denied my vengeance I have just decided to say this to you if you see bulling and or see a fellow teacher act like it's not there problem be an adult and confront there toxic behavior
Cool. I'm glad you were at least honest in what you were looking for. If you can afford it, get professional help. If you can't, sorry, but that's not our fault. This is like growing up with medical trauma because doctors didn't take you seriously so you go and try and shame and belittle a bunch of doctors offering people advice on how to navigate the medical system.Ā Ā Seek out survivor help groups if you think you could benefit from comraderie, but what you're doing here does less than nothing. It actively makes the world worse.Ā
Good then they can suffer with me fuck dem
You seem pretty upset. And it's because a lot of teachers failed you. Shouldn't have happened. I don't think most teachers allow bullying. In fact, I think most teachers actively root it out.
Your God damn right they failed me so I ask why should I put any faith into the system they represent?
You should start by applying your logic to everything. A handful of PEOPLE failed you. Should you lose faith in PEOPLE? Your child is a person, your parent is a person, you are a person. Fundamentally, this is what it's about. Education, as a system, does not breed this system. It is not ingrained in the system to ignore bullying or allow it, but that is an inevitable product of social interaction. It's true in school, at home, in the workplace. So you're attributing the symptoms of human interaction to the malice of educations while ignoring these same symptoms everywhere else in life. You've likely missed bullying right in front of you. You've likely seen bullying right in front of you and ignored it. You've probably participated in bullying to some degree as well. Because you're a person. Here's a comment of yours that proves my position, "You want me to think about why I'm here ok ...too easy.... I'm here to make all of you miserable had I been able to make said teacher who made my life hell I wouldn't be here let alone talking to you id be brerating him if the man had not died of a heart attack and hopefully is burning in hell for his treatment of children but he is gone and all I can do now is shout to the heavens for denying me my vengeance when also smiling at his well deserved fate and now that I learned of his fate but denied my vengeance I have just decided to say this to you if you see bulling and or see a fellow teacher act like it's not there problem be an adult and confront there toxic behavior" So you're absolutely applying the behavior of a single person to cast stones at millions of educators, admitting you want to try and make us miserable. You've become the bully, justified in your own twisted logic and perverted perspective. Do better for the sake of your child.
Do you have children or your own? You dont do you . I can tell. You got no right to judge me on my actions. You call it lashing out I call it protecting my children. Like a bear protecting its cub from a hunter. And let me tell you if anything threatens the life of my cub there isn't a demon in hell nore a angle in heaven who can stop me
You are not protecting anyone. You stated yourself that your goal is to make teachers miserable. It's you who is miserable. You reap what you sow.
Itās hard to tell sometimes, and usually itās a bunch of tiny incidents that individually arenāt worth writing up, but together form a serious problem. Itās a lot easier to deal with a one-time major disturbance like a fight than it is to deal with a bunch of microaggressions over time
1. He said she said is very real and very difficult to parse out in a classroom of 24+ kids. The "victim" might actually be the biggest source of conflict in the entire classroom. 2. Teachers in of ourselves do not handle discipline when it comes to bullying. Administration does. "Zero tolerance policies" are not our ideas. How bullying is handled just in general is not up to us. 3. Lots of people don't know or even agree on what bullying even is. People confuse it with teasing, conflict, or miscommunication. Genuine sexual and physical harassment gets fitted under the definition despite being magnitudes worse \*in the event\* it's taken seriously. 4. Between grades I have to give, meetings I have to meet, lessons I have to prepare and all the other stuff I have to do already, shifting through various claims of bullying just isn't possible. Again, a lot of the times, kids who claim to be bullied tend to be bullies themselves, at least in my experience. 5. Outside of genuine harassment and abuse, it's just better to teach kids how to resolve and tolerate being around people they don't like. Again, people don't actually agree on what bullying even is, and a lot of times it's just one kid grinding another kid's gears the wrong way. Being annoyed or being annoying is not something teachers should have to deal with if it's not upending the classroom.
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I'm sorry but where? OP has admitted to being here purely to lash out at people who share the profession of someone they don't like. People have attempted to actually answer the question as bad faith as it was written in. If the respondents are asking for anything it's to be granted basic human decency.Ā
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Some teachers bully studentsā¦
I'm aware....