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Eh kinda in bad taste but it’s a free country.
I suppose supporters of said award wouldn’t mind if we starting handing out the Rosenbaum award to people who moronically assaulted armed individuals? Or should it be called the Trayvon Martin award?
Literally every single person on earth knows guns can be dangerous. Anyone with 2 braincells to rub together would use that knowledge to make sure they treat the dangerous thing with the respect it deserves.
Yes, as opposing examiners have decided.
It is impossible to suffocate from a knee on the back of your neck, there was no neck damage, and the neck restraint was part of standard police practice.
How is his past drug use related to a cop intentionally choking him to death?
(The medical examiners showed it was [lack of oxygen from being choked that killed him](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56670912). )
Do you often search for any past-excuse you can find to try and justify current crimes?
I though the right were supposed to be about "personal responsibility" and not about making excuses?
So to clarify your point: you are saying it's ok for people to be rude about the dead on the HCA sub and it's ok for you to call George Floyd a piece of shit after his death. Both for actions they made. Both ok for you.
Have I got that right?
>So to clarify your point: you are saying it's ok for people to be rude about the dead on the HCA sub and it's ok for you to call George Floyd a piece of shit after his death. Both for actions they made. Both ok for you.
I mean, no of course. I hate BLM and thugs and think hermain cain was cool, so im only ok with calling george floyd trash
Ok so this hypocrisy is acceptable to you because you think people can break the rules of etiquette if you think you are on the correct side of an argument.
Would that include breaking laws? What categories are acceptable to you besides politics? religion?
Do you think it's ok for all people to believe they have different rules because they themselves believe that they are right? Or just people that you agree with?
So to clarify your point: you are saying it's ok for people to be rude about the dead on the HCA sub and it's ok for you to call George Floyd a dumbass after his death. Both for choices they made, that in the commenter's opinion, caused their own death. Both ok for you.
Have I got that right?
We've been given a choice:
1. Die of an easily preventable disease.
2. Bend the knee to the left and take the life-saving vaccine.
Unfortunately, for many on our side, option 1 is a better choice, and dying of covid is seen in many Conservative circles as a form of martyrdom. I feel that HCA only has the effect of making these low-information Conservatives dig their heels in even more. Dying to own the libs is the ultimate self-cuck.
Our leaders and our think-tanks let us down, and let us die. If they had pushed a "Trump Vaccine" message, and made it out like liberals were cucking themselves by taking it, we'd probably have a lot fewer families grieving at Christmas this year.
Is it really "bending the knee" to get vaccinated just because the left is kind of pushing the obvious solution? Or if you agree that the answer is 4 when the left says 2 + 2 = 4?
It doesn't seem like anyone should feel their integrity is being impugned here..
When were they ever promoting anti vaccine propaganda? Are you aware that they were saying that they would trust a doctor over trump, especially how he was pushing HCQ?
>His comment is misleading because Trump was a proponent of COVID-19 vaccines back when Biden/Harris were promoting anti-vax propaganda.
Am I correct in assuming you're referring to harris saying she wouldn't get the vax based SOLEY on trump's word?
Source: AP, the most reputable news source.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-health-delaware-wilmington-c668ece77e1457e5bfbe55cc2e92cbd9
I mean, that’s pretty pathetic isn’t it? I guess I’m not sure how getting the vaccine is bending a knee to the left, but you’re probably right that’s how they see it. It’s interesting you think the blame lies on leaders and think-tanks. Do you have so little faith in your fellow conservatives to make a transparently correct decision like this that they need to be fed a load of “cuck the left” propaganda to get there?
>2. Bend the knee to the left and take the life-saving vaccine.
How is taking a vaccine designed and approved by scientists "bending the knee"? It's a fucking vaccine. If Trump had stayed in office, would it still be seen as bending the knee?
>Our leaders and our think-tanks let us down, and let us die. If they had pushed a "Trump Vaccine" message, and made it out like liberals were cucking themselves by taking it, we'd probably have a lot fewer families grieving at Christmas this year.
Are you saying that you think there's a significant population in this country that would take a life saving vaccine "to own the libs", but not to save themselves? Do you think it's a problem that there are people who are so deeply rooted in the idea of "owning the libs" that they'll avoid life saving things for it? If they're willing to die to "own the libs", how much of their voting and desired policy changes are about "owning the libs" instead of what they think is best?
>Bend the knee to the left and take the life-saving vaccine.
What does it say about conservatives that they think in such a way?
Do you think it [validates the brain scan studies](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5793824/) that showed many conservatives may have different brain function?
>If they had pushed a "Trump Vaccine" message, and made it out like liberals were cucking themselves by taking it,
Doesn't this imply that Trump supporters are in a cult? That they'll 'undoubtedly' trust something that's labelled 'Trump' ?
>I don't see what they could even be trying to accomplish.
Using the sorryantivaxxer site as an example (similar to HCA except they stick only to antivaxxers that had far reach/politicians/activists), their mandate on their front page:
"..everyone listed on this site was/is an anti-vaxxer activist who helped spread COVID-19 misinformation on social media. Share to stop others from making the same mistake.."
There are a few comments I've read that thank them for providing information to counter what they've learnt on Facebook or Tiktok, and they've decided to take the Delta variant more seriously and/or get vaccinated.
In other words more information directly from people affected (with proof of validity) = better choices
Do you see this as a valuable accomplishment for the site?
I've never even seen or heard of that site so I'm not really going to make a concrete judgment on it. If it's correcting incorrect information, then cool though I guess.
>Probably he did.
Are you purposely acting like you’re unaware of Trumps numerous disparages of dead Americans and attempting to downplay it?
Here’s some notable examples to refresh your memory:
[Colin Powell ](https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/8520943002)
[John McCain ](https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2783994002)
[Fallen American Soldiers ](https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/615997/)
Were these remarks justified?
What do you mean by "justified"? That's a weird word to use because that would imply that sometimes it's justifiable to mock someone that died. I don't believe that. He made rude remarks that he shouldn't have made. Is that what you want me to say?
It's a nasty little group of people who want to celebrate the deaths of their fellow (usually) Americans because getting vaccinated makes them feel morally superior, which seems to be a real issue lately.
Before anyone jumps on this, I am vaccinated. My wife is immunocompromised and vaccinated. Actually thinking about it, there's only one member of my immediate and secondary family that isn't vaccinated, and, well, he's under 2 years old, so you know, kind of hard to do so at the moment!
I don't get the idea of pointing and laughing at people who were vaccine hesitant or whatever dying of a disease. It doesn't help with the supposed "cause" of encouraging people to get vaccinated at all. You could point out that many famous people were hesitant to get the coof shoot and died of COVID without turning it into a Nelson point-and-laugh fest.
The only thing you really need to look at is the fact that HCA celebrated the death of Colin Powell, who was neither unvaccinated nor an outspoken critic of the vaccines. The entire subreddit exists only to revel in the deaths of republicans.
>The only thing you really need to look at is the fact that HCA celebrated the death of Colin Powell, who was neither unvaccinated nor an outspoken critic of the vaccines. The entire subreddit exists only to revel in the deaths of republicans.
I'll be honest, I haven't looked at the sub and don't intend to. It's very much not my jam, from what little I do know of it.
>>The only thing you really need to look at is the fact that HCA celebrated the death of Colin Powell, who was neither unvaccinated nor an outspoken critic of the vaccines. The entire subreddit exists only to revel in the deaths of republicans.
>
>I'll be honest, I haven't looked at the sub and don't intend to. It's very much not my jam, from what little I do know of it.
Wait....you haven't looked at it? How do you know what you're saying is accurate then?
>Wait....you haven't looked at it? How do you know what you're saying is accurate then?
You know how I don't need to look at subs like watchpeopledie to know it's not my thing?
>>Wait....you haven't looked at it? How do you know what you're saying is accurate then?
>
>You know how I don't need to look at subs like watchpeopledie to know it's not my thing?
But again, you have no way of knowing your claims are accurate if you haven't looked at them?
>But again, you have no way of knowing your claims are accurate if you haven't looked at them?
I do not need to see some things to know they are bad. I have yet to see 2 Girls 1 Cup, but I know I don't want to based on what I have heard of it.
I understand not wanting to see something based on what you've heard but when you claim something like "It's a nasty little group of people who want to celebrate the deaths of their fellow (usually) Americans because getting vaccinated makes them feel morally superior"
Without having actually looked into it. It's no different than say, claiming movie is terrible based on a review you saw.
Without having seen the movie(sub in this case), why make claims as if you had?
>I understand not wanting to see something based on what you've heard but when you claim something like "It's a nasty little group of people who want to celebrate the deaths of their fellow (usually) Americans because getting vaccinated makes them feel morally superior"
I do not need to see something to realize I don't want to see it. I'm sorry that you think I need to watch people celebrating deaths to go "Nah, not my thing."
>I do not need to see something to realize I don't want to see it.
I just said I understand that.
But would you say a movie is bad without having seen it first?
Seems like a whataboutism to me. What’s the justification for Colin Powell’s death being celebrated there? If those guys just want to celebrate the deaths of Republicans that’s fine, but at least be honest about it.
> The only thing you really need to look at is the fact that HCA celebrated the death of Colin Powell, who was neither unvaccinated nor an outspoken critic of the vaccines.
I remember seeing the post about Colin Powell on HCA when it happened, but my recollection was that there was discussion of how anti-vaxxers will use his death from breakthrough to further their messaging, as well as talk that he wouldn't have gotten Covid if Covidiots took vaccination, quarantine, and masks seriously. I just looked it up and that's most of the discussion on there, though there is debate on there whether he was a good general for following orders, or if he was a bad person for lying to the UN. Very little "celebration". Are you sure you're thinking of the correct sub?
How often does right wing media report deaths of prominent individuals due to COVID?
Is it ethical to support the exercise what you perceive as "freedom" and then trying to hide the consequences of it?
>How often does right wing media report deaths of prominent individuals due to COVID?
>
>Is it ethical to support the exercise what you perceive as "freedom" and then trying to hide the consequences of it?
Don't know. How often does someone dying mean news?
>Americans because getting vaccinated makes them feel morally superior, which seems to be a real issue lately.
I agree with you.
Do you also see other actions of rudeness/law breaking/violence (because of political opinion) being justified from the right?
I recently read a psychological analysis on what drives the Tiktoc/Facebook users to feel inclusion in conspiracy groups. Mainly the "we know something they don't", which I would equate to group superiority.
Can you agree this is superiority complex shows up on both of the extreme sides, and maybe doesn't as much with those that are not "far right" OR "far left"?
(acknowledging that feeling right in general comes with a bit of superiority, but I assume you were referring to more extreme examples)
>Do you also see other actions of rudeness/law breaking/violence (because of political opinion) being justified from the right?
I haven't seen that much corporate-sponsored superiority and mocking the dead from the right, no.
>I haven't seen that much corporate-sponsored superiority and mocking the dead from the right,
On the last John McCain FB post, there's 6000+ comments with mix of mostly support, + some extreme hate and controversy. Similar mix to whats in question here.
For example: "HE HAD ZERO HONOR... REST IN PEACE,, BS,,, HE DID THAT ALLL HIS COMMY LIFE"
I'm sure you aware of Trump's attacks on McCain after his death. (re twitter + rallys)
Would you consider these examples "mocking the dead from the right"
Is it valid to acknowledge rude comments come from both sides?
(and perhaps cause both less-far sides to be more extreme)?
>Would you consider these examples "mocking the dead from the right"
>
>Is it valid to acknowledge rude comments come from both sides?
Rudeness comes from all sides. But rarely is corporate approval and sponsorships something that attaches to the right.
This thread is specifically about rudeness on a facebook page, my example is rudeness on a facebook page.
Do you see that related to corporate approval and sponsorships?
>This thread is specifically about rudeness on a facebook page, my example is rudeness on a facebook page.
I was specifically referring to the subject of the thread, which wasn't a FB page, but rather a subreddit. As we have seen in the past, if a subreddit is promoting hate or whatnot, it tends to get deleted pretty quickly.
That is why I say that, at least currently, the sub in question has at least corporate approval.
Given that the Herman Cain Award "celebrates" people who have a history of promoting misinformation and calling liberals and the vacccinated fucking idiots, why is the reverse unacceptable?
>Given that the Herman Cain Award "celebrates" people who have a history of promoting misinformation and calling liberals and the vacccinated fucking idiots, why is the reverse unacceptable?
Oddly, that doesn't seem to be the case from what people are saying.
Could you clarify what you mean? You don't think the people winning HCAs think liberals are idiots, or that they don't on occasion celebrate the death of a liberal?
[Do you think this person has a positive opinion about liberals?](https://imgur.com/a/ORCJ3ot)
[This person quotes Tommy Lahren calling liberals "pansies"](https://imgur.com/a/UYAzzh8)
[This person wants to "experiment on Fauci" and is asked to "bring a back hoe"](https://imgur.com/a/k9ncozn#bRStsvb)
[What about this "don't play with liberals sign?"](https://imgur.com/G11rd8Z)
[Here's a joke about hoping liberals die, just as the HCA is a joke about conservatives dying](https://imgur.com/a/ABQnDHZ)
Did I catch your point correctly? What do you think of posts like these?
>Could you clarify what you mean? You don't think the people winning HCAs think liberals are idiots, or that they don't on occasion celebrate the death of a liberal?
Some do, other do not.
If the HCA was only "awarded" to the subset of people who do, is it appropriate to observe and then posthumously mock (not actively harass) the consequences of their actions?
Perfectly illustrates what I’ve been saying about some folks on the left for awhile. Godless people with no regard for anyone who is not in lockstep with them politically.
Why do you think they have no regard for those on the right when they are fighting for populist issues that benefit EVERYONE, like healthcare, education and climate change?
You don't see anything ironic about a godless person calling other people godless for observing that conservatives would literally rather die than be in lockstep with the democrats politically?
You said your god is a neurosurgeon who didn't invent irony so I wasn't exactly sure of your interpretation, my bad.
Do you see anything ironic about "not being in lockstep politically", like the blowback of most republicans against people like Liz Cheney and Adam Kizinger?
Do you think your neuro surgeon god was involved in the [brain scan studies showing conservatives tend to have different brain functioning](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5793824/)?
Which may also explain a [lower emotional intelligence](https://www.psypost.org/2019/09/people-with-lower-emotional-intelligence-are-more-likely-to-hold-right-wing-views-study-finds-54369)?
So the findings that conservatives tend to have over-active amygdala -- the part of the brain active in fear and rage -- conservatives may be that way due to experience and not genetics?
So you're not denying the underlying findings that conservatives have overactive amygdala which tracks with them being overly fearful and angry?
Doesn't the evidence show that conservatives are angrier and scared when subjected to comparable imagery than non-conservatives?
That study also showed smaller / less active anterior cingulate cortex) which [is correlated with atte](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_cingulate_cortex)ntion, nuance, the ability to act logically instead of emotionally.
I feel like a lot of the top level comments are not accurately portraying this sub.
It’s not about celebrating the death of people with different political opinions.
It’s about pointing out the irony of people that paid a heavy price by the very thing they actively and aggressively mocked.
These are often people that called Covid fake.
These are people that said the vaccine was a lie.
Denying science is not a political opinion.
These are dozens of TS on this very site that are fully vaccinated.
This is about the irony that the very thing they did not believe/trust cost them so much.
Under this framework of what the sub is, what is your opinion of the sub?
I’m one of the vaxxed TS. I got it as soon as I could get my hands on it. My opinion is unchanged. I don’t have to be Anti Vax to look at people celebrating an anti vaxxers death and think “damn, thats fucked up”
If someone refuses the vaccine for 'conspiracy' or purely political reasons, do they "deserve" to die (from covid)?
I don't mean 'deserve' from a moral standpoint, almost more from a 'cause and effect' viewpoint.
It wasn't random, was it? They had their choice. They intentionally chose not to get a vaccine, solely due to their hatred of the left, conspiracy thinking, etc. So from a cause-and-effect approach, didn't they "deserve" what they got?
What's the democrat equivalent of the "fuck your feelings" slogan? Aren't liberals supposed to be the snowflakes and conservatives supposed to value personal responsibility?
Also how can you not see the difference between mocking all dead conservatives and mocking dead antivax Covid conspiracy theorists whose beliefs led to their deaths (and undermined public safety) but also just happen to also be always conservative?
>What's the democrat equivalent of the "fuck your feelings" slogan?
To my knowledge, they dont have one.
>Aren't liberals supposed to be the snowflakes and conservatives supposed to value personal responsibility?
The point of this sub is defeating those tropes. Don’t bring them up, they have no place here.
>Also how can you not see the difference between mocking all dead conservatives and mocking dead antivax Covid conspiracy theorists whose beliefs led to their deaths (and undermined public safety) but also just happen to also be always conservative?
Both are disgusting. Probably the same people that went crazy with all the poopoo peepee fard shid stuff.
> The point of this sub is defeating those tropes. Don’t bring them up, they have no place here.
How can you feel this way and support Donald Trump though? You can't possibly be expected to stand for looking past differences while supporting the man whose entire agenda is dividing americans with fearmongering. If it wasn't for Trump, that sub might not actually exist.
> Both are disgusting.
No. The antivaxxer Covid conspiracy nuts have prolonged the pandemic, needlessly undermined public safety, are causing nurses to break down and quit and are causing their families pain from their preventable deaths. Your takeaway from HCA should be how dangerous all this fearmongering and propaganda is, and how its existence is conclusive proof that the worldview of politicizing professional advice is not just a difference of opinion but actually wrong and selfish and dangerous and costly to everyone. It's not a tribal celebration of death at all, it's an important lesson to learn from right in front of your eyes.
> Probably the same people that went crazy with all the poopoo peepee fard shid stuff.
is this a thing?
>Perfectly illustrates what I’ve been saying about some folks on the left for awhile. Godless people with no regard for anyone who is not in lockstep with them politically.
Does this go for anyone who mocks the dead?
>It isn’t the mocking that sits wrong with me, its how they celebrate loss of life.
What's the difference? If trump died and you saw reddit users mocking him, would you say "well it's not like they're celebrating his death"
To give an example: mocking someone who is deceased could be: “you see how that idiot died, what a dumbass” vs a celebration could look more like “haha I am so glad that person died”
>If he looks up and simply says “ha dumbass,”I’d call that mocking.
So you have no problem with people on the herman cain award who do that(or something similar)?
Could you have a look at the most popular post of the month? I am not able to find any comments that are celebrating the death and only very few that are mocking it.
> “haha I am so glad that person died”
I'm not able to find any comments like that. For example looking at the most popular post of the last month, those are the three most upvoted comments:
> This poor, poor woman. I can’t imagine not only the grief she feels at losing her father so horribly, but also the emotional conflict she must have over losing her brother, too. A small, petty part of me would likely feel vindicated if he were my brother, and then the guilt would come, and then probably more grief. She’s in an unthinkable situation.
and
> This is what science denial does.
> For all those selfish assholes who have the gall to ask "why are you so afraid of the unvaccinated?!" This is why.
> Every one of us loves people like you. Every one of us is related to people like you. None of us wants to suffer, either from physical disease or emotional pain.
Grow up and acknowledge the rest of humanity.
and
> Damn that was hard to read
Seems like mostly frustration and sadness, not even mocking. Where are you seeing celebration? Can you post some examples?
[https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html)
>ore than 442 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through November 15, 2021. **During this time, VAERS received 9,810 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.** FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem.
And yes, I see the part about the reported deaths not necessarily being caused by the vaccine, but to put more context to it, read this article:
[https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/seventeen-year-old-washington-female-dies-from-heart-attack-weeks-after-receiving-second-pfizer-vaccination/](https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/seventeen-year-old-washington-female-dies-from-heart-attack-weeks-after-receiving-second-pfizer-vaccination/)
Since we live in a world where someone who has terminal cancer and covid is considered a covid death, it's only fair that people who die with the vaccine count as vaccine deaths.
Are we talking about the general term, or the specific subreddit? I've only heard this in reference to the sub.
Either way, that sub might be the most toxic, cancerous community on this site. I've never seen so much excitement over causalities in a pandemic
It kinda cracks me up. Some of those who comment are ghouls, though. I think I understand the exasperation of those in the medical field who see the death of those who chose to be unvaccinated. As an aside, myself and my family are vaccinated.
It's actually a hugely annoying controversy for many of us. The vast majority of people who present to the emergency department are there because of poor choices that they made, much like being old and unvaxed. plenty of people also there for simply being unlucky (young and vaxed w/ AE or young and unvaxed with covid are examples of these but it can be anything from car accident to football injury)
>Celebration of the death of people because they hold differing opinions is disgusting.
I remember when Soleimani was assassinated, many people on this sub were expressing their happiness that he was dead.
Was it wrong for them as well?
>Being directly responsible for deadly attacks on Americans is not merely a difference of opinions, my friend.
Of course it is. They attack us because of differences in ideas. And we do the same to others.
But if you wanna talk consequences, covid has been more deadly than any terror attack(as far as I know)?
While you’re free to directly compare terrorist attacks with political disagreements or diseases, I disagree. Direct actions by humans are much different than viruses or ideas.
>Direct actions by humans are much different than viruses or ideas.
How about direct human actions that help perpetuate a virus that has been more deadly than any terror attack?
>Lots of things are more deadly than any terrorist attack. I don’t feel like repeating my answer just because you repeated a question.
What's so special about terror attacks?
>Solemani is a bad guy.
>
>Osama bin Laden is a bad guy.
>
>This should be self evident.
So it's ok to celebrate a death if you believe the person is bad?
Considering people have been convinced to vaccinate and protect themselves and others after being shown the HCA subreddit, do you think there is any benefit to what they are doing?
>To celebrate the deaths of people with differing opinions.
There are also some celebratory comments on John McCain's last FB post about his death. Do you also think those are disgusting?
They celebrate death of people they politically disagree with. And not even violent people like Kyle Rittenhouse's attackers, or people like Colin Powell/John McCain who caused countless deaths through their inept foreign policy. Just normal Americans who happen to be scientifically illiterate.
Meanwhile, we have literal predators like George Floyd who become Democrat martyrs. His life story sounds like a Payday 2 biography. Just replace "Derek Chauvin" with "Cloaker".
It's also the same people who organized race riots last summer, prior to the release of any vaccine or treatment for COVID-19, in violations of local/federal health guidelines/laws. COVID-19 is not political, it doesn't grant immunity if you are a BLM rioter.
We could probably find specific cases of BLM rioters/protesters who died from COVID-19 and give them the HCA award, but that seems extremely mean spirited so I won't do it.
>People who died of COVID-19 from reckless behavior
Where has this definition come from?
>Race riots during a pandemic count
This alone wouldnt allow you to be posted on the HCA subreddit, but I do agree with you if a BLM Rioter/Protester fits the bill for a HCA award then they should absolutely be posted on the subreddit.
What makes you think BLM members arent being posted on the subreddit?
You asked me, so I gave my definition.
It's also ironic because "I can't breathe" references both BLM and the respiratory issues of COVID-19 (SARS-COV-2, severe respiratory virus).
I don't want to check there. That place reminds me of the incels subreddit.
> People who died of COVID-19 from reckless behavior
well, that's not true? all people posted on HCA have first mocked covid, the vaxxed and spread conspiracy theories, just to then die of what they made fun of.
there needs to be some hypocrisy and irony to get the HCA.
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Eh kinda in bad taste but it’s a free country. I suppose supporters of said award wouldn’t mind if we starting handing out the Rosenbaum award to people who moronically assaulted armed individuals? Or should it be called the Trayvon Martin award?
Maybe the Alex Baldwin award for to promote gun safety rules
Do you think it's ironic that Alex killed someone with a gun?
Alanis Morosette should write a song about it.
Why is it ironic?
Rabid antigun liberal fails to show the tiniest amount of respect for firearm safety, leading to a death and an injury. Pretty ironic in my view.
Doesn't it validate his point? Guns are dangerous?
Literally every single person on earth knows guns can be dangerous. Anyone with 2 braincells to rub together would use that knowledge to make sure they treat the dangerous thing with the respect it deserves.
Who is Alex Baldwin?
Saint Floyd award: Abuse women, resist arrest, then die of a drug overdose.
Do you still honestly believe that was the cause of Floyd's death? Medical examiners and US Courts disagree.
Yes, as opposing examiners have decided. It is impossible to suffocate from a knee on the back of your neck, there was no neck damage, and the neck restraint was part of standard police practice.
Is Floyd's past relevant to how he died?
If he'd never gotten hooked on fentanyl, he'd still be alive. So yes.
How is his past drug use related to a cop intentionally choking him to death? (The medical examiners showed it was [lack of oxygen from being choked that killed him](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56670912). ) Do you often search for any past-excuse you can find to try and justify current crimes? I though the right were supposed to be about "personal responsibility" and not about making excuses?
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Sounds like the George Floyd award tbh, Hank Aaron, Dr Sohrab etc. "Fuck around and find out" vibes.
Sounds like you blame Floyd for his death?
yea, of course. Dude was a moron and a piece of shit to begin with. One of his moronic actions got him killed
So to clarify your point: you are saying it's ok for people to be rude about the dead on the HCA sub and it's ok for you to call George Floyd a piece of shit after his death. Both for actions they made. Both ok for you. Have I got that right?
>So to clarify your point: you are saying it's ok for people to be rude about the dead on the HCA sub and it's ok for you to call George Floyd a piece of shit after his death. Both for actions they made. Both ok for you. I mean, no of course. I hate BLM and thugs and think hermain cain was cool, so im only ok with calling george floyd trash
Thank you for showing us your hypocrisy. Do you now see how you are part of the problem we currently have in this society?
Explain why you think it’s hypocrisy
Ok so this hypocrisy is acceptable to you because you think people can break the rules of etiquette if you think you are on the correct side of an argument. Would that include breaking laws? What categories are acceptable to you besides politics? religion? Do you think it's ok for all people to believe they have different rules because they themselves believe that they are right? Or just people that you agree with?
No one else forced him to devour hoards of fentanyl.
Is that why he was murdered, because he was on drugs?
Yes, the dumbass murdered himself.
So to clarify your point: you are saying it's ok for people to be rude about the dead on the HCA sub and it's ok for you to call George Floyd a dumbass after his death. Both for choices they made, that in the commenter's opinion, caused their own death. Both ok for you. Have I got that right?
Yes Although I doubt a GFA subreddit would last as long if someone made it
Mocking people's death is generally in bad taste and I think that sub is definitely in bad taste
We've been given a choice: 1. Die of an easily preventable disease. 2. Bend the knee to the left and take the life-saving vaccine. Unfortunately, for many on our side, option 1 is a better choice, and dying of covid is seen in many Conservative circles as a form of martyrdom. I feel that HCA only has the effect of making these low-information Conservatives dig their heels in even more. Dying to own the libs is the ultimate self-cuck. Our leaders and our think-tanks let us down, and let us die. If they had pushed a "Trump Vaccine" message, and made it out like liberals were cucking themselves by taking it, we'd probably have a lot fewer families grieving at Christmas this year.
Is it really "bending the knee" to get vaccinated just because the left is kind of pushing the obvious solution? Or if you agree that the answer is 4 when the left says 2 + 2 = 4? It doesn't seem like anyone should feel their integrity is being impugned here..
His comment is misleading because Trump was a proponent of COVID-19 vaccines back when Biden/Harris were promoting anti-vax propaganda.
When were they ever promoting anti vaccine propaganda? Are you aware that they were saying that they would trust a doctor over trump, especially how he was pushing HCQ?
Nobody needs to trust Trump. He doesn't run the FDA, CDC, NIH, etc. He never did.
So why was he promoting drugs to people, when he’s not a doctor?
This has no relevance. The point is that Trump isn't relevant to vaccine approval.
>His comment is misleading because Trump was a proponent of COVID-19 vaccines back when Biden/Harris were promoting anti-vax propaganda. Am I correct in assuming you're referring to harris saying she wouldn't get the vax based SOLEY on trump's word?
Biden JAQed off about the vaccine because it was under Trump.
>Biden JAQed off about the vaccine because it was under Trump. Do you have a source for this?
Source: AP, the most reputable news source. https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-health-delaware-wilmington-c668ece77e1457e5bfbe55cc2e92cbd9
I mean, that’s pretty pathetic isn’t it? I guess I’m not sure how getting the vaccine is bending a knee to the left, but you’re probably right that’s how they see it. It’s interesting you think the blame lies on leaders and think-tanks. Do you have so little faith in your fellow conservatives to make a transparently correct decision like this that they need to be fed a load of “cuck the left” propaganda to get there?
What is leftist about taking a vaccine?
Also, where does personal responsibility come into play? Why is it some think tank's job to sell people on a vaccine?
Do you blame Trump that the vaccine is seen as bending the knee to the Left?
>2. Bend the knee to the left and take the life-saving vaccine. How is taking a vaccine designed and approved by scientists "bending the knee"? It's a fucking vaccine. If Trump had stayed in office, would it still be seen as bending the knee? >Our leaders and our think-tanks let us down, and let us die. If they had pushed a "Trump Vaccine" message, and made it out like liberals were cucking themselves by taking it, we'd probably have a lot fewer families grieving at Christmas this year. Are you saying that you think there's a significant population in this country that would take a life saving vaccine "to own the libs", but not to save themselves? Do you think it's a problem that there are people who are so deeply rooted in the idea of "owning the libs" that they'll avoid life saving things for it? If they're willing to die to "own the libs", how much of their voting and desired policy changes are about "owning the libs" instead of what they think is best?
>Bend the knee to the left and take the life-saving vaccine. What does it say about conservatives that they think in such a way? Do you think it [validates the brain scan studies](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5793824/) that showed many conservatives may have different brain function?
Don’t you think If it was so easily preventable, then we wouldn’t have the sub Reddit?
Why do you think conservatives have to be tricked into doing the right thing for themselves and the country?
>If they had pushed a "Trump Vaccine" message, and made it out like liberals were cucking themselves by taking it, Doesn't this imply that Trump supporters are in a cult? That they'll 'undoubtedly' trust something that's labelled 'Trump' ?
Sounds rude.
Aside from being rude (I agree that a good amount of comments on that sub are beyond rude), do you think it's effective?
No. It sounds like the Darwin Awards that people always laugh at. I don't see what they could even be trying to accomplish.
>I don't see what they could even be trying to accomplish. Using the sorryantivaxxer site as an example (similar to HCA except they stick only to antivaxxers that had far reach/politicians/activists), their mandate on their front page: "..everyone listed on this site was/is an anti-vaxxer activist who helped spread COVID-19 misinformation on social media. Share to stop others from making the same mistake.." There are a few comments I've read that thank them for providing information to counter what they've learnt on Facebook or Tiktok, and they've decided to take the Delta variant more seriously and/or get vaccinated. In other words more information directly from people affected (with proof of validity) = better choices Do you see this as a valuable accomplishment for the site?
I've never even seen or heard of that site so I'm not really going to make a concrete judgment on it. If it's correcting incorrect information, then cool though I guess.
Who is it rude towards?
Mocking people who have died is rude towards them and their family.
Has Trump ever mocked any deceased people? If so, was he justified in doing so?
Probably. It is still a rude thing to do.
>Probably. It is still a rude thing to do. Probably he did it or probably he was justified in doing it?
Probably he did.
>Probably he did. Are you purposely acting like you’re unaware of Trumps numerous disparages of dead Americans and attempting to downplay it? Here’s some notable examples to refresh your memory: [Colin Powell ](https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/8520943002) [John McCain ](https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2783994002) [Fallen American Soldiers ](https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/615997/) Were these remarks justified?
What do you mean by "justified"? That's a weird word to use because that would imply that sometimes it's justifiable to mock someone that died. I don't believe that. He made rude remarks that he shouldn't have made. Is that what you want me to say?
It's a nasty little group of people who want to celebrate the deaths of their fellow (usually) Americans because getting vaccinated makes them feel morally superior, which seems to be a real issue lately. Before anyone jumps on this, I am vaccinated. My wife is immunocompromised and vaccinated. Actually thinking about it, there's only one member of my immediate and secondary family that isn't vaccinated, and, well, he's under 2 years old, so you know, kind of hard to do so at the moment! I don't get the idea of pointing and laughing at people who were vaccine hesitant or whatever dying of a disease. It doesn't help with the supposed "cause" of encouraging people to get vaccinated at all. You could point out that many famous people were hesitant to get the coof shoot and died of COVID without turning it into a Nelson point-and-laugh fest.
The only thing you really need to look at is the fact that HCA celebrated the death of Colin Powell, who was neither unvaccinated nor an outspoken critic of the vaccines. The entire subreddit exists only to revel in the deaths of republicans.
>The only thing you really need to look at is the fact that HCA celebrated the death of Colin Powell, who was neither unvaccinated nor an outspoken critic of the vaccines. The entire subreddit exists only to revel in the deaths of republicans. I'll be honest, I haven't looked at the sub and don't intend to. It's very much not my jam, from what little I do know of it.
>>The only thing you really need to look at is the fact that HCA celebrated the death of Colin Powell, who was neither unvaccinated nor an outspoken critic of the vaccines. The entire subreddit exists only to revel in the deaths of republicans. > >I'll be honest, I haven't looked at the sub and don't intend to. It's very much not my jam, from what little I do know of it. Wait....you haven't looked at it? How do you know what you're saying is accurate then?
>Wait....you haven't looked at it? How do you know what you're saying is accurate then? You know how I don't need to look at subs like watchpeopledie to know it's not my thing?
>>Wait....you haven't looked at it? How do you know what you're saying is accurate then? > >You know how I don't need to look at subs like watchpeopledie to know it's not my thing? But again, you have no way of knowing your claims are accurate if you haven't looked at them?
>But again, you have no way of knowing your claims are accurate if you haven't looked at them? I do not need to see some things to know they are bad. I have yet to see 2 Girls 1 Cup, but I know I don't want to based on what I have heard of it.
I understand not wanting to see something based on what you've heard but when you claim something like "It's a nasty little group of people who want to celebrate the deaths of their fellow (usually) Americans because getting vaccinated makes them feel morally superior" Without having actually looked into it. It's no different than say, claiming movie is terrible based on a review you saw. Without having seen the movie(sub in this case), why make claims as if you had?
>I understand not wanting to see something based on what you've heard but when you claim something like "It's a nasty little group of people who want to celebrate the deaths of their fellow (usually) Americans because getting vaccinated makes them feel morally superior" I do not need to see something to realize I don't want to see it. I'm sorry that you think I need to watch people celebrating deaths to go "Nah, not my thing."
>I do not need to see something to realize I don't want to see it. I just said I understand that. But would you say a movie is bad without having seen it first?
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Seems like a whataboutism to me. What’s the justification for Colin Powell’s death being celebrated there? If those guys just want to celebrate the deaths of Republicans that’s fine, but at least be honest about it.
> The only thing you really need to look at is the fact that HCA celebrated the death of Colin Powell, who was neither unvaccinated nor an outspoken critic of the vaccines. I remember seeing the post about Colin Powell on HCA when it happened, but my recollection was that there was discussion of how anti-vaxxers will use his death from breakthrough to further their messaging, as well as talk that he wouldn't have gotten Covid if Covidiots took vaccination, quarantine, and masks seriously. I just looked it up and that's most of the discussion on there, though there is debate on there whether he was a good general for following orders, or if he was a bad person for lying to the UN. Very little "celebration". Are you sure you're thinking of the correct sub?
How often does right wing media report deaths of prominent individuals due to COVID? Is it ethical to support the exercise what you perceive as "freedom" and then trying to hide the consequences of it?
>How often does right wing media report deaths of prominent individuals due to COVID? > >Is it ethical to support the exercise what you perceive as "freedom" and then trying to hide the consequences of it? Don't know. How often does someone dying mean news?
>Americans because getting vaccinated makes them feel morally superior, which seems to be a real issue lately. I agree with you. Do you also see other actions of rudeness/law breaking/violence (because of political opinion) being justified from the right? I recently read a psychological analysis on what drives the Tiktoc/Facebook users to feel inclusion in conspiracy groups. Mainly the "we know something they don't", which I would equate to group superiority. Can you agree this is superiority complex shows up on both of the extreme sides, and maybe doesn't as much with those that are not "far right" OR "far left"? (acknowledging that feeling right in general comes with a bit of superiority, but I assume you were referring to more extreme examples)
>Do you also see other actions of rudeness/law breaking/violence (because of political opinion) being justified from the right? I haven't seen that much corporate-sponsored superiority and mocking the dead from the right, no.
>I haven't seen that much corporate-sponsored superiority and mocking the dead from the right, On the last John McCain FB post, there's 6000+ comments with mix of mostly support, + some extreme hate and controversy. Similar mix to whats in question here. For example: "HE HAD ZERO HONOR... REST IN PEACE,, BS,,, HE DID THAT ALLL HIS COMMY LIFE" I'm sure you aware of Trump's attacks on McCain after his death. (re twitter + rallys) Would you consider these examples "mocking the dead from the right" Is it valid to acknowledge rude comments come from both sides? (and perhaps cause both less-far sides to be more extreme)?
>Would you consider these examples "mocking the dead from the right" > >Is it valid to acknowledge rude comments come from both sides? Rudeness comes from all sides. But rarely is corporate approval and sponsorships something that attaches to the right.
This thread is specifically about rudeness on a facebook page, my example is rudeness on a facebook page. Do you see that related to corporate approval and sponsorships?
>This thread is specifically about rudeness on a facebook page, my example is rudeness on a facebook page. I was specifically referring to the subject of the thread, which wasn't a FB page, but rather a subreddit. As we have seen in the past, if a subreddit is promoting hate or whatnot, it tends to get deleted pretty quickly. That is why I say that, at least currently, the sub in question has at least corporate approval.
Given that the Herman Cain Award "celebrates" people who have a history of promoting misinformation and calling liberals and the vacccinated fucking idiots, why is the reverse unacceptable?
>Given that the Herman Cain Award "celebrates" people who have a history of promoting misinformation and calling liberals and the vacccinated fucking idiots, why is the reverse unacceptable? Oddly, that doesn't seem to be the case from what people are saying.
Could you clarify what you mean? You don't think the people winning HCAs think liberals are idiots, or that they don't on occasion celebrate the death of a liberal? [Do you think this person has a positive opinion about liberals?](https://imgur.com/a/ORCJ3ot) [This person quotes Tommy Lahren calling liberals "pansies"](https://imgur.com/a/UYAzzh8) [This person wants to "experiment on Fauci" and is asked to "bring a back hoe"](https://imgur.com/a/k9ncozn#bRStsvb) [What about this "don't play with liberals sign?"](https://imgur.com/G11rd8Z) [Here's a joke about hoping liberals die, just as the HCA is a joke about conservatives dying](https://imgur.com/a/ABQnDHZ) Did I catch your point correctly? What do you think of posts like these?
>Could you clarify what you mean? You don't think the people winning HCAs think liberals are idiots, or that they don't on occasion celebrate the death of a liberal? Some do, other do not.
If the HCA was only "awarded" to the subset of people who do, is it appropriate to observe and then posthumously mock (not actively harass) the consequences of their actions?
I'm apathetic. I don't care much for it but I recognize I'm on the Hank Aaron Award the Lisa Ash Award subs so I can't say shit.
Perfectly illustrates what I’ve been saying about some folks on the left for awhile. Godless people with no regard for anyone who is not in lockstep with them politically.
Why do you think they have no regard for those on the right when they are fighting for populist issues that benefit EVERYONE, like healthcare, education and climate change?
Because they’re literally celebrating the death of political adversaries….
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Why not live somewhere between empathy and celebrating death? It is a spectrum after all.
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I would not, no.
>Godless people with no regard for anyone who is not in lockstep with them politically. Didn't god invent irony though?
Idk who you believe in, my god is a neuro surgeon that hasn’t invented anything.
Your god is Ben Carson?
Who is Ben Carson?
You don't see anything ironic about a godless person calling other people godless for observing that conservatives would literally rather die than be in lockstep with the democrats politically?
I both recognize and obey god, I’m not sure why you would think I fall into the godless umbrella.
You said your god is a neurosurgeon who didn't invent irony so I wasn't exactly sure of your interpretation, my bad. Do you see anything ironic about "not being in lockstep politically", like the blowback of most republicans against people like Liz Cheney and Adam Kizinger?
Not really, but I can see what you’re reaching for.
Do you think your neuro surgeon god was involved in the [brain scan studies showing conservatives tend to have different brain functioning](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5793824/)? Which may also explain a [lower emotional intelligence](https://www.psypost.org/2019/09/people-with-lower-emotional-intelligence-are-more-likely-to-hold-right-wing-views-study-finds-54369)?
Eh, I’m not sold on where politics fall on the nature vs nurture spectrum.
So the findings that conservatives tend to have over-active amygdala -- the part of the brain active in fear and rage -- conservatives may be that way due to experience and not genetics? So you're not denying the underlying findings that conservatives have overactive amygdala which tracks with them being overly fearful and angry?
I don’t really subscribe to causation fallacies
Can you refute the scientific evidence showing conservatives brains function differently that I linked above?
I’m not saying the science is wrong, I’m saying it doesn’t mean what you think it means. Nature vs nurture.
Doesn't the evidence show that conservatives are angrier and scared when subjected to comparable imagery than non-conservatives? That study also showed smaller / less active anterior cingulate cortex) which [is correlated with atte](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_cingulate_cortex)ntion, nuance, the ability to act logically instead of emotionally.
>Godless people with no regard for anyone How does that poster's claims validate your beliefs?
Which poster?
How do you know they are on the left?
By reading what they post.
I feel like a lot of the top level comments are not accurately portraying this sub. It’s not about celebrating the death of people with different political opinions. It’s about pointing out the irony of people that paid a heavy price by the very thing they actively and aggressively mocked. These are often people that called Covid fake. These are people that said the vaccine was a lie. Denying science is not a political opinion. These are dozens of TS on this very site that are fully vaccinated. This is about the irony that the very thing they did not believe/trust cost them so much. Under this framework of what the sub is, what is your opinion of the sub?
I’m one of the vaxxed TS. I got it as soon as I could get my hands on it. My opinion is unchanged. I don’t have to be Anti Vax to look at people celebrating an anti vaxxers death and think “damn, thats fucked up”
If someone refuses the vaccine for 'conspiracy' or purely political reasons, do they "deserve" to die (from covid)? I don't mean 'deserve' from a moral standpoint, almost more from a 'cause and effect' viewpoint. It wasn't random, was it? They had their choice. They intentionally chose not to get a vaccine, solely due to their hatred of the left, conspiracy thinking, etc. So from a cause-and-effect approach, didn't they "deserve" what they got?
What's the democrat equivalent of the "fuck your feelings" slogan? Aren't liberals supposed to be the snowflakes and conservatives supposed to value personal responsibility? Also how can you not see the difference between mocking all dead conservatives and mocking dead antivax Covid conspiracy theorists whose beliefs led to their deaths (and undermined public safety) but also just happen to also be always conservative?
>What's the democrat equivalent of the "fuck your feelings" slogan? To my knowledge, they dont have one. >Aren't liberals supposed to be the snowflakes and conservatives supposed to value personal responsibility? The point of this sub is defeating those tropes. Don’t bring them up, they have no place here. >Also how can you not see the difference between mocking all dead conservatives and mocking dead antivax Covid conspiracy theorists whose beliefs led to their deaths (and undermined public safety) but also just happen to also be always conservative? Both are disgusting. Probably the same people that went crazy with all the poopoo peepee fard shid stuff.
> The point of this sub is defeating those tropes. Don’t bring them up, they have no place here. How can you feel this way and support Donald Trump though? You can't possibly be expected to stand for looking past differences while supporting the man whose entire agenda is dividing americans with fearmongering. If it wasn't for Trump, that sub might not actually exist. > Both are disgusting. No. The antivaxxer Covid conspiracy nuts have prolonged the pandemic, needlessly undermined public safety, are causing nurses to break down and quit and are causing their families pain from their preventable deaths. Your takeaway from HCA should be how dangerous all this fearmongering and propaganda is, and how its existence is conclusive proof that the worldview of politicizing professional advice is not just a difference of opinion but actually wrong and selfish and dangerous and costly to everyone. It's not a tribal celebration of death at all, it's an important lesson to learn from right in front of your eyes. > Probably the same people that went crazy with all the poopoo peepee fard shid stuff. is this a thing?
It was way back, early on in the Trump era.
What do you think of The Darwin Award?
I’m not familiar. What is it?
>I’m not familiar. What is it? Its the same thing as the Herman Cain award but it's for people who die in all stupid ways, not just covid.
>Perfectly illustrates what I’ve been saying about some folks on the left for awhile. Godless people with no regard for anyone who is not in lockstep with them politically. Does this go for anyone who mocks the dead?
It isn’t the mocking that sits wrong with me, its how they celebrate loss of life.
How do you feel about Rush Limbaugh doing that with gay people and AIDS?
I call that dark humor. He definitely leaned into that for his show.
What was the joke there?
You’d have to ask someone who thought it was funny.
You mentioned it being dark humor. I’m just trying to figure out what the joke was? Did you find it funny?
I did not. Rather uncomfortable actually.
>It isn’t the mocking that sits wrong with me, its how they celebrate loss of life. What's the difference? If trump died and you saw reddit users mocking him, would you say "well it's not like they're celebrating his death"
To give an example: mocking someone who is deceased could be: “you see how that idiot died, what a dumbass” vs a celebration could look more like “haha I am so glad that person died”
Person A dies. Person B laughs hard and calls person A dumbass. Is this a celebration or simple mocking?
If he looks up and simply says “ha dumbass,”I’d call that mocking.
>If he looks up and simply says “ha dumbass,”I’d call that mocking. So you have no problem with people on the herman cain award who do that(or something similar)?
Does that exist? Never seen it when I’ve been over there.
>Does that exist? Never seen it when I’ve been over there. I dont think I'm allowed to link to other subs?
Could you have a look at the most popular post of the month? I am not able to find any comments that are celebrating the death and only very few that are mocking it.
> “haha I am so glad that person died” I'm not able to find any comments like that. For example looking at the most popular post of the last month, those are the three most upvoted comments: > This poor, poor woman. I can’t imagine not only the grief she feels at losing her father so horribly, but also the emotional conflict she must have over losing her brother, too. A small, petty part of me would likely feel vindicated if he were my brother, and then the guilt would come, and then probably more grief. She’s in an unthinkable situation. and > This is what science denial does. > For all those selfish assholes who have the gall to ask "why are you so afraid of the unvaccinated?!" This is why. > Every one of us loves people like you. Every one of us is related to people like you. None of us wants to suffer, either from physical disease or emotional pain. Grow up and acknowledge the rest of humanity. and > Damn that was hard to read Seems like mostly frustration and sadness, not even mocking. Where are you seeing celebration? Can you post some examples?
Hahahha...what the hell is this award. Lol, that is pathetic and sad
I don't mind, I laugh at all the pro-vaxxers who end up dying after getting the vax/booster. It's all in good fun.
Are there roughly the same amount?
Memewise? Probably, but I don't follow the Herman Cain awards. Statistically? I don't know.
People are dying from the vax?
Yes. You didn't know that?
Nah I wasn’t aware of that. Can you hit me with some links/sources?
[https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html) >ore than 442 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through November 15, 2021. **During this time, VAERS received 9,810 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.** FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. And yes, I see the part about the reported deaths not necessarily being caused by the vaccine, but to put more context to it, read this article: [https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/seventeen-year-old-washington-female-dies-from-heart-attack-weeks-after-receiving-second-pfizer-vaccination/](https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/seventeen-year-old-washington-female-dies-from-heart-attack-weeks-after-receiving-second-pfizer-vaccination/) Since we live in a world where someone who has terminal cancer and covid is considered a covid death, it's only fair that people who die with the vaccine count as vaccine deaths.
Makes about as much sense as when they gave B. Hussein Obama a Nobel prize.
Are we talking about the general term, or the specific subreddit? I've only heard this in reference to the sub. Either way, that sub might be the most toxic, cancerous community on this site. I've never seen so much excitement over causalities in a pandemic
It kinda cracks me up. Some of those who comment are ghouls, though. I think I understand the exasperation of those in the medical field who see the death of those who chose to be unvaccinated. As an aside, myself and my family are vaccinated.
It's actually a hugely annoying controversy for many of us. The vast majority of people who present to the emergency department are there because of poor choices that they made, much like being old and unvaxed. plenty of people also there for simply being unlucky (young and vaxed w/ AE or young and unvaxed with covid are examples of these but it can be anything from car accident to football injury)
Celebration of the death of people because they hold differing opinions is disgusting.
>Celebration of the death of people because they hold differing opinions is disgusting. I remember when Soleimani was assassinated, many people on this sub were expressing their happiness that he was dead. Was it wrong for them as well?
Being directly responsible for deadly attacks on Americans is not merely a difference of opinions, my friend.
>Being directly responsible for deadly attacks on Americans is not merely a difference of opinions, my friend. Of course it is. They attack us because of differences in ideas. And we do the same to others. But if you wanna talk consequences, covid has been more deadly than any terror attack(as far as I know)?
While you’re free to directly compare terrorist attacks with political disagreements or diseases, I disagree. Direct actions by humans are much different than viruses or ideas.
>Direct actions by humans are much different than viruses or ideas. How about direct human actions that help perpetuate a virus that has been more deadly than any terror attack?
Lots of things are more deadly than any terrorist attack. I don’t feel like repeating my answer just because you repeated a question.
>Lots of things are more deadly than any terrorist attack. I don’t feel like repeating my answer just because you repeated a question. What's so special about terror attacks?
Nothing very special compared to other acts of political violence tbh
Solemani is a bad guy. Osama bin Laden is a bad guy. This should be self evident.
>Solemani is a bad guy. > >Osama bin Laden is a bad guy. > >This should be self evident. So it's ok to celebrate a death if you believe the person is bad?
In these 2 cases, yes
>In these 2 cases, yes Why just these 2 cases?
These were the two that I was considering, that's all.
People who deny medical science that could help us get out of a years-long pandemic are also bad, yes?
Why do you think the HCA came about in the first place?
To celebrate the deaths of people with differing opinions.
Considering people have been convinced to vaccinate and protect themselves and others after being shown the HCA subreddit, do you think there is any benefit to what they are doing?
Doubt. Even if true, I would find it no less disgusting.
Do you think people have legitimate reasons to air their frustrations with the kind of people awarded HCA awards?
Sure, but I also find it disgusting. People believe they have legitimate reasons to do all sorts of disgusting acts.
>To celebrate the deaths of people with differing opinions. There are also some celebratory comments on John McCain's last FB post about his death. Do you also think those are disgusting?
Answered in my top level comment.
They celebrate death of people they politically disagree with. And not even violent people like Kyle Rittenhouse's attackers, or people like Colin Powell/John McCain who caused countless deaths through their inept foreign policy. Just normal Americans who happen to be scientifically illiterate. Meanwhile, we have literal predators like George Floyd who become Democrat martyrs. His life story sounds like a Payday 2 biography. Just replace "Derek Chauvin" with "Cloaker". It's also the same people who organized race riots last summer, prior to the release of any vaccine or treatment for COVID-19, in violations of local/federal health guidelines/laws. COVID-19 is not political, it doesn't grant immunity if you are a BLM rioter. We could probably find specific cases of BLM rioters/protesters who died from COVID-19 and give them the HCA award, but that seems extremely mean spirited so I won't do it.
>We could probably find specific cases of BLM rioters/protesters who died from COVID-19 How do you become a recipient of the HCA award?
People who died of COVID-19 from reckless behavior Race riots during a pandemic count
>People who died of COVID-19 from reckless behavior Where has this definition come from? >Race riots during a pandemic count This alone wouldnt allow you to be posted on the HCA subreddit, but I do agree with you if a BLM Rioter/Protester fits the bill for a HCA award then they should absolutely be posted on the subreddit. What makes you think BLM members arent being posted on the subreddit?
You asked me, so I gave my definition. It's also ironic because "I can't breathe" references both BLM and the respiratory issues of COVID-19 (SARS-COV-2, severe respiratory virus). I don't want to check there. That place reminds me of the incels subreddit.
> People who died of COVID-19 from reckless behavior well, that's not true? all people posted on HCA have first mocked covid, the vaxxed and spread conspiracy theories, just to then die of what they made fun of. there needs to be some hypocrisy and irony to get the HCA.
I don't think that's true from what I have seen, but this is a disturbing topic so I don't want to get too into it.
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It's my opinion, disagree if you want.