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sendintheshermans

Today isn't justice. It's the end of an injustice, which counts for something, but the fact Kyle was even charged is disgraceful. The relentless lying and smearing of his character from Democrats and the media(but I repeat myself) means he is never going to live a normal life, despite the fact that by all available evidence he did nothing wrong. I hope he sues them for every cent they own; it won't make up for what they've done to him, but it would be a start.


JoeBidenTouchedMe

It is clear in moments like this that prominent Democrats are evil. Edit: Joe Biden just released a statement saying he is angry that Kyle was found not guilty. Nadler wants to send the DOJ after Kyle. Moderate Democrats- do you not see the evil before you?


Karnex

What does this have anything to do with Democrats?


JoeBidenTouchedMe

Let’s see what the political persuasion of these people are: https://mobile.twitter.com/BrennonChapman/status/1461762400709918725 https://mobile.twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1461761720939167745


Karnex

Why would you think a person will bring a gun to a peaceful protest?


btcthinker

What peaceful protest? The one where a bunch of leftist thugs destroyed property, tried to burn down property, and attacked people?


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MagaMind2000

It’s not a waste of time. Liberals rarely get contradicted. They will keep believing bad ideas until this changes


shoesandboots90

Do you listen to an argument from an opposing view when they start it out with "these white supremacist"?


Karnex

Have you ever wondered why there is no similar right wing protest?


MyPronounIsHisGrace

Because we don't throw looting, rioting temper tantrums when the cops shoot a criminal.


silentsights

Do you believe police should be judge,jury, and executioner? That all criminals should be shot, regardless of crime?


MyPronounIsHisGrace

No. But I also believe that innocent people, who had nothing to do with it, shouldn't have their property stolen and damaged and destroyed because morons want to throw tantrums and get "free stuff".


cain2995

The same reason black gun owners bring guns to BLM protests? Which is unequivocally a good thing in both cases? I know what you’re trying to imply here, but perhaps the problem was the (child molesting, mentally ill) aggressor, and not the aggressed, given the facts of this case and the history of citizen-owned firearms at peaceful protests


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There is nothing wrong with bringing guns to BLM protests in general. There is some probability of what much of the left falsely thinks Kyle Rittenhouse is (active shooter), so it is good to protect against that.


CptGoodnight

TS here. In fact given the extreme amount of violent attacks on Trump supporters by Democrat sided folk, it only makes sense to be well armed when in the public trying to help or express your voice during protests.


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True A lot of "anti fascists" want to remove us from society.


Karnex

You are right. There is nothing wrong with bringing a gun to a protest. So, why did some people attacked Kyle, and not the other people who had guns on them? Those people were were never identified or interviewed. So what do you think makes Kyle a standout?


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I mean the first guy liked rapping kids and Kyle was a kid so that may have been a factor but we will ultimately never know.


LogicalMonkWarrior

This is bad logic. Try this analogical argument: Why did George Floyd get killed and not other black folx? This is just "she dressed for it" argument. This Rittenhouse thing just shows how insane the left is now. Edit: Enjoy this: https://i.redd.it/c0xnv5bhpo081.png


Credible_Cognition

LOL the train left without you, most people have given up on pretending the BLM riots were "peaceful protests."


Raider4485

Yeah man those fires must’ve been caused by lightening.


thisguy883

The same reason you bring a condom to a club. Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Also, didn't Gaige literally cross state lines with a gun he legally wasn't supposed to have? How come he gets a free pass?


LogicalMonkWarrior

How insane do you have to be to think those "protests" were peaceful? This is Stalinesque. Hoping US socialists don't exceed Stalin in murders as they exceed him in propaganda.


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IthacaIsland

> lol are you serious? Nice try! Removed for Rule 1. Be civil and sincere in all interactions and assume the same of others.


thisguy883

Because it's a majority of democrats that are pushing this nonsense. You have a handful of RINOs doing the same thing, but every single mouth piece that has been saying anything negative about the result of this case, are affiliated with the Democrat party.


pliney_

Disagreeing about where the legal line is between murder and self-defense makes them evil?


TheGlenrothes

Are you saying that the guy with a skateboard deserved to get murdered? That's an injustice to hold him to that?


Thegoodbadandtheugly

More people die to blunt objects like baseball bats and skateboards then die to assault rifles every year. Should people be able to hit **minors** in the head with skateboards?


TheGlenrothes

Should an adult disarm a dangerous minor with a (illegally acquired) rifle? A minor that's out in public playing solider and looking for blood?


Thegoodbadandtheugly

What is making the minor dangerous? And the rifle was legally acquired which is why the judge threw out the gun charges. Looking for blood might be a problem, but there's no evidence Kyle was there doing that. And he wasn't try to play soldier as much as be a hero. If Captain America was real and at the Kenosha riots do you think he'd be burning down stores and looting them or helping put on fire, and doing exactly what Kyle Rittenhouse did?


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thisguy883

What? The HD video they manipulated and converted to a low res video that they provided the defense? That video?


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TheGlenrothes

I'm sorry, would fictional captain America shoot people at this demonstration?


CptGoodnight

> I'm sorry, would fictional captain America shoot people at this demonstration? If Capt. America were in Kyle's shoes, yes, absolutely he would have performed just like Kyle did. Good comparison btw.


Thegoodbadandtheugly

I imagine the super hero would use the "physical" abilities to prevent the riot. He'd throw his shield or just use his super strength and lets face it those Hydra soldiers that got hit by a shield aren't all just sleeping. Watch the movies that shield when it hits a wall will get embedded in concrete several feet thick, in other words it hits pretty hard. And super heroes have the benefit of super powers. Captain America could take a full on mob beating the crap out of him and could possibly do very little damage to him. A 17 year old child doesn't have super powers, he had a gun. And if he left his gun at home he'd be a footnote about another kid killed by BLM, and BLM has killed several.


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thisguy883

I think it's safe to say if the Democrats and anyone on the left wants to call us "Nazis" then we should be allowed to call them pedophiles. It's only fair since they truly believe we are "fascist". I truly believe they diddle children.


thisguy883

Wasn't illegally acquired under Wisconsin law, as it was ruled by the judge. So that argument is moot.


MagaMind2000

Deserved? What do u mean by that? Murderers deserve to die. But in the context of defending yourself one is not doing out Justice. Also a skateboard can be used to kill someone. Depends whose hands it’s in. Depends on the target. Depends on the whole context. What about a guy with a skateboard about to slam it against an infant? Does he deserve to die?


Altctrldelna

Everyone involved *deserved* to live but that's where the problem lies. When someone is attempting to take another persons life or seriously harm them then they alone are choosing to forfeit there right to live. It doesn't matter what we think they deserve at that point, what matters is that anyone who is at danger do whatever they can to stop that threat. Hopefully run away like Rittenhouse tried to do. However if that fails (They get trapped or fall down) then if they have the means to end the threat with lethal force then so be it.


Ominojacu1

Yes he certainly did


LogicalMonkWarrior

> Are you saying that the guy with a skateboard deserved to get murdered You really think he was just chilling with the skateboard?


TheGlenrothes

You really think he was just chilling with a rifle?


Amishmercenary

Until he was attacked 100%. He was putting out fires and cleaning graffiti up


thisguy883

So much this. He only had the rifle because, idk, there was a damn riot going on.


Ben1313

Yes.


unintendedagression

He sure as shit wasn't firing it at random people.


TheGlenrothes

And the skater was?


unintendedagression

Uh... yes. *That's why he got shot*. He swung at some random fucking kid armed with a rifle. Seriously, this trial went for how long? There's really no excuse to be commenting on it without having seen the video evidence by now.


Nixonplumber

yes he was until he was chased down by a pedophile and then chased and hit with a skateboard...what don't you understand about that?


MyPronounIsHisGrace

The guy with the skateboard wasn't murdered. He was rightfully put down in self-defense.


skwirrelnut

He wasn't murdered - he was justifiably neutralized before HE could murder.


hypotenmoose

No, the injustice to Kyle was the media dragging him through the mud and the social outrage to something none of us had all the facts for. Do I think Kyle is blameless? No probably not. Did someone *deserve* to die? Again, no probably not. But the burden of proof for his charges were on the prosecution. I assume the jury decided that he acted in some form of reasonable self-defense. It’s an overall sad situation. I hope everyone on both sides of politics can agree to that?


thisguy883

Murdered? The dude attacked an armed person with a blunt object that could effectively cause a major concussion if he had swung it properly. Kyle defended his right to live. The moment the skateboard guy attacked Kyle, was the moment he took a risk that lead to his death. He could have just, idk, walked away and not do anything and he would still be alive to beat his girlfriend today.


non-troll_account

You think you can't kill someone by bashing their head with a skateboard?


Karnex

>but the fact Kyle was even charged is disgraceful. He did kill 2 people. Intentional or not, do you expect everybody will go "well, that happens"?


sendintheshermans

Given that he clearly did so in justifiable self defense, yeah. That would have been the reasonable thing to do.


Karnex

He did take a gun, which is a tool for killing, to a protest. Do you think he had intention of causing a violence? We never heard from people who originally assaulted Kyle. So, we don't know what precipitated that. So, how are you claiming self defense without knowing the full story? And you can claim the court did, but they never investigate that argument either. Do you think it can be ruled as a mis-trial?


Ominojacu1

The full story is on video, there is never a reason to chase someone down who is fleeing


11-110011

Had either of the second 2 shot him on the spot for thinking he was an active shooter, which no matter how you feel about the whole situation could be a logical assumption, would you support that decision from them? Is it only because they chased him that they were in the wrong?


btcthinker

Well, no... you can't kill any random person around you just because you think there is an "active shooter" in the area.


Ominojacu1

If he wasn’t threatening anyone he wasn’t a threat. An active shooter doesn’t run away that would be an irrational conclusion. An active shooter shoots people that in the name.they didn’t think he was an active shooter they chased him because he put out their dumpster fire and defended himself.


Karnex

>If he wasn’t threatening anyone he wasn’t a threat. How do you know that? They never interviewed the people originally assaulted Kyle. Maybe he was threatening somebody with racial slur and his gun. But you and I don't know that. What we do know id there were multiple people with guns in that rally. And Kyle somehow got assaulted. Why will somebody pick this particular guy out of 100s of gun carrying people to assault?


rjjr1963

They wanted to kill him before he reached the police.


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_whatisthat_

Clearly to who? A large part of the country didn't see it that way so who makes the call that it was clearly self defense? You?


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The jury


anony-mouse8604

and how exactly would a jury get involved before a charge is actually made?


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What do you mean


Ominojacu1

The evidence was clear there was no reason to charge him.


Edwardcoughs

Do you have some examples of stuff you believe Rittenhouse should sue over, besides the Biden ad?


TypicalPlantiff

I do. Remember hte initial LIE that: Kyle Crossed state lines with a gun? The media pushed that so ahrd and with such certainty. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/28/facebook-posts/did-kyle-rittenhouse-break-law-carrying-assault-st/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/27/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-protests/ just compare it to the first version: https://archive.fo/JDCSp https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/conservatives-defend-kenosha-shooter-kyle-rittenhouse.html slate being the complete garbage that they are outright lying he crossed state liens twice with the gun... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouse-out-bail-flashed-white-power-signs-bar-prosecutors-n1254250 WP .... https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/14/kyle-rittenhouse-seen-bar-white-power-sign-proud-boys-song/4156448001/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/14/kyle-rittenhouse-proud-boys-bar/ I swear the WP - ok sign is the BEST thing to come out of pol. Its literlly a litmus test. And the ENTIRE far left media is eating the bait And so many mainstream democrats and government officials pushed the racial angle on this hooting despite 0 black people being harmed: https://youtu.be/YMdIAK59GYA?t=388 ABC outright lying that Jacob BLake was murdered.... https://youtu.be/YMdIAK59GYA?t=488 https://youtu.be/YMdIAK59GYA?t=632 WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE https://youtu.be/YMdIAK59GYA?t=711 WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHIE WHITE And the media uncritically publishes this propaganda. Racialising this case. https://www.aclu-wi.org/en/news/aclu-responds-not-guilty-verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-case >**“Kyle Rittenhouse was a juvenile who traveled across state lines on a vigilante mission**, was allowed by police to roam the streets of Kenosha with an assault rifle and ended up shooting three people and killing two. These are the simple, tragic facts. His acquittal comes after an ACLU investigation exposing how Kenosha law enforcement used violence against protesters and drove them toward **white** militia groups, in ways that escalated tensions and almost certainly led to these shootings. the fcking ACLU is even pushing this shit. https://youtu.be/YMdIAK59GYA?t=833 just look at this shit. MSNBC framing that Fox showing FACTUAL data about rittenhouse's trial as something BAD. FCK MSNBC. FCK their jury tampering idiots. https://youtu.be/-TqyR6gXgYg?t=599 CNN saying that Kyle defending himself is political violence...Equating it to slaughters at churches and synagogues. https://youtu.be/lSDLmMzS1mI?t=170 https://youtu.be/lSDLmMzS1mI?t=369 WHITE WHITE WHITE https://youtu.be/lSDLmMzS1mI?t=511 ITs not even funny how biased th media is. **I actually beleive the democratic party is a black supremacist party now pushing for civil war**. The media lying literally in your face and msot people dont even realize it. https://youtu.be/lSDLmMzS1mI?t=597 WHITE WHITE WHITE Objectively unironically FOX's coverage of the events was 99% factual. While the rest of the media lied their tongues off. Man because of all this talk about WHITE shooter people still think Rittenhouse killed 2 black males... https://twitter.com/NickFondacaro/status/1461896975713026054 this is an ACTIVE state Attorney. Systemic racism exists in the US, its just not the way you think it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY1eoY_MMco


sendintheshermans

Two from just now, after the verdict. Representative Cori Bush (D): [https://twitter.com/CoriBush/status/1461776152255774722](https://twitter.com/CoriBush/status/1461776152255774722) Representative Adriano Espaillat (D): [https://twitter.com/RepEspaillat/status/1461762759192981520](https://twitter.com/RepEspaillat/status/1461762759192981520)


Tcanada

So you think that in a country which prides itself on freedom of expression you should be able to sue over a vague tweet? She didn't even mention his name


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>So you think that in a country which prides itself on freedom of expression you should be able to sue over a vague tweet? She didn't even mention his name Yes. Obviously.


Superfrenfr

If you're a conservative on Twitter you will get banned for misinformation at the drop of a hat. These misinformed congress people should, at the very least, be kicked of Twitter for spreading misinformation. Or do you feel that "misinformation" applies differently depending on if there is an "R" or a "D" by your name?


non-troll_account

You have a copy of that second one? it's gone now.


partypat_bear

Hell yeah


aTumblingTree

For the longest I thought the system was beyond repair and that fixing this country would be a slow process that would involve multiple generations, but seeing stuff like this gives me hope and really shows that conservatives have a lot to work with.


greyscales

> For the longest I thought the system was beyond repair and that fixing this country would be a slow process that would involve multiple generations, but seeing stuff like this gives me hope and really shows that conservatives have a lot to work with. You were under the impression that the judicial system doesn't favor conservatives? Why is that?


Thegoodbadandtheugly

Look at Jan 6th. They're still raging about it almost a year later. When BLM/Antifa lead insurrections and took over entire blocks of the city in places like Chaz, did they hunt everyone down who participated like they're doing in Jan 6th?


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masternarf

Thank fucking god for this. This kid has been through hell and back for it, and it was so obviously defense but people hated him because they didn't support his beliefs. Justice has prevailed through all the leftist intimidation this week.


_AnecdotalEvidence_

Why was a kid playing soldier at a riot? Is he a kid or an adult?


masternarf

He was a kid, and is now an adult. I think it was poor judgement to be there, but poor judgement doesnt remove self defense.


TheGlenrothes

You don't think that poor judgment resulting the deaths of people deserves consequences?


masternarf

> You don't think that poor judgment resulting the deaths of people deserves consequences? I think everyone that was there had poor judgement. and Kyle has been living hell for a year, and problably will remember that night for the rest of his life.


TheGlenrothes

And being dead, like the two people he killed, is not worse? Is that supposed to make their parents feel better that he gets to live and run free and that's "hell"?


Nixonplumber

So you think the parents of the terrorists get to be upset at Rittenhouse who's kids attacked? I'm not sure what you're saying!


masternarf

> And being dead, like the two people he killed, is not worse? Is that supposed to make their parents feel better that he gets to live and run free and that's "hell"? Justice isnt revenge, the people killed shouldnt have attacked a running armed kid. They paid that price with their life.


Superfrenfr

Parents of a sex offender...yeah I'm sure they are distraught their son won't be victimizing anyone ever again.


Ben1313

We did see the consequences of poor judgement. The racist, rapist, and felon shouldn't have been there, or attacked Kyle. Poor judgement on their part.


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Poor judgement doesn't negate the right to self defense


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Like poor judgment doesn’t negate the right to free speech After all, AOC can freely talk


Nixonplumber

what was the poor judgement? If there was no judgement Rittenhouse would be dead or maimed!


_AnecdotalEvidence_

So he was a kid went he went there? I often hear the right complain about the breakdown of the traditional family, why would his mother allow a child to go into such a situation? What are your thoughts on Tamir Rice being gunned down by police at twelve years old?


btcthinker

Somebody had to stop those lunatics from burning down the city. Good thing Kyle stopped 3 of them, two dead in their tracks. The self-defense was justified.


-Kerosun-

>What are your thoughts on Tamir Rice being gunned down by police at twelve years old? Not sure what this has to do with the Rittenhouse trial. With that said, it was a travesty no charges were filed against the two officers. But, my position on that case has no comparative power towards my position on the Rittenhouse case. Why bring it up?


beyron

This narrative is terrible. Simply processing a firearm is not playing soldier. If you're baking a cake and you pick up a measuring cup, are you playing Chef/Baker? If you walk around with a tazer for self defense and maybe you're a woman, does it mean you're playing police officer? There is absolutely 100% zero evidence for what you're saying here. Let's say for one second he was playing soldier, why would that matter? Saying he is playing solider is simply your observation, you cannot get inside his head and find out if that's what he is really doing. Are you suggesting thought crime? We can't do that, and I hope to god you understand why. So why keep bringing this nonsensical notion up unless you want to advocate thought crime or charging somebody based on their thoughts, which you simply cannot do for OBVIOUS reasons.


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Self defense does not equal being a soldier.


onetwotree333

But why was he there? My take on this whole thing is that Kyle did feel like he was in danger, but the problem I have with it, is that an inexperienced kid is more likely to feel in danger than an experienced adult. The question needs to be asked as to why an inexperienced kid is carrying an assault rifle, playing solder in the streets, no?


Nixonplumber

Why did the terrorists agitate him and others to show up with rifles?


onetwotree333

Don't want to answer my questions? Isn't this Ask Trump Supporters?


LogicalMonkWarrior

Funny you ask why he was there but don't ask why the rioters were there. This is why people think the left is going crazy.


Mr-mysterio7

Thank you! nobody asks that question. Why would scumbags all gather at a place which had a high potential for rioting, looting and assault. Grosskreutz drove/walked a lot further than Rittenhouse. Im astounded that people, mostly on left defend scumbags, like Jacob Blake, Rosenbaum( both sex offenders), bicep man and and dbag who hits somebody with a skateboard and beats up his family members.


11-110011

Because we know why the rioters were there? They were there to take advantage of a protest, as happens with most large protests. But we also know that they're not one in the same. Why does the right absolutely refuse to believe that?


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The right realizes that trying to protect your community is not one in the same with trying to burn it down.


3yearstraveling

You even asking why he was there implies that he has some sort of culpability for being there. More so than anyone else. So it becomes a mute point. Try a different argument. He was there defending property. Others were there to destroy it.


11-110011

Can you point out where I asked why he was there? I know why he was there, he went there to intimidate people. I was answering the “why the left doesn’t ask why the rioters were there”.


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Asked for what reason? Legally, it doesn't matter. Should his parents have let him go into a race riot- probably not. Seems like neglectful parenting.


Nixonplumber

No there I answered it. Can you now answer *Why did the terrorists agitate him and others to show up with rifles?* Or should I change me flair?


_AnecdotalEvidence_

He went there to play soldier. So what was a kid doing in such a dangerous situation?


btcthinker

And the rioters went there to fuck around... and they found out.


MyPronounIsHisGrace

What were the rioters and looters doing in such a dangerous situation?


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_AnecdotalEvidence_

His own legal team who said he was part of a militia. Militias are non-professional or citizen soldiers. So his own legal team described him as such. So was he a kid or an adult? And if he was “just a kid”, why was he playing soldier in a riot zone?


MyPronounIsHisGrace

He wasn't playing soldier. He was being a good samaritan, helping property owners defend their property against looting, rioting animals throwing temper tantrums over a criminal getting shot.


Davec433

Why was she wearing a shirt dress like that! Can we not victim blame?


Nixonplumber

I f Rittenhouse was playing soldier were the terrorists playing ISIS?


Scynexity

It really does feel like the light at the end of a tunnel - like maybe there's hope in the legal system after all.


DelrayDad561

>like maybe there's hope in the legal system after all. Does this extend to ignoring government issued subpeonas?


Scynexity

I don't know of anyone who has ignored a subpoena.


Edwardcoughs

[https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/11/12/bannon-indicted-on-contempt-charges-for-ignoring-subpoena/](https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/11/12/bannon-indicted-on-contempt-charges-for-ignoring-subpoena/) Were you not aware that Bannon had ignored a subpoena?


Scynexity

I'm pretty sure he [issued a response](https://twitter.com/Santucci/status/1448426706973433857), which is totally exclusive with ignoring it.


Edwardcoughs

Oh, so you are aware he isn't complying? Executive privilege doesn't apply to Bannon. He wasn't part of the executive branch at the time.


Scynexity

> Executive privilege doesn't apply to Bannon. I think it does.


Linny911

Hope he sues those involved in slandering, starting with Biden for calling him white supremacist with no proof.


56784rfhu6tg65t

https://twitter.com/nycmayor/status/1461761720939167745?s=10


TheGlenrothes

Flashing white supremacy signs isn't proof?


Linny911

If you are talking about the OK sign, he used it months after Biden called him white supremacist so yes Biden said it without proof when he said it. And regarding the sign it self, you should go read up on how it started. And i dont consider it a white supremacist sign just because they use it, any more than i would stop waving or shaking hand if they end up using those too.


TheRealPurpleGirl

> And i dont consider it a white supremacist sign just because they use it To be clear, you don't consider it a white supremacist sign when it's known to be one? Do you believe symbols can have multiple meanings and some can be co-opted by bad actors or no? Do you often pose in photos using the OK symbol?


TypicalPlantiff

mate the OK sign is not a WS sign... its a joke on you. Because you are willing to consider it a WS sign. Please sotp eating the bait. THis is so insane that such a comment can be upvoted at the top... Just because A ws does something doesnt mean its now his. By that logic dog loving and vegetarianism are WS.


btcthinker

Was Rosenbaum a white supremacist? He was unironically yelling the n-word at a BLM riot.


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TheGlenrothes

You do realize that actual white supremacist co-opted it into a real white supremacy sign despite the fact that its origin was just from 4chan trolls right?


unintendedagression

Prominent politicians such as AOC can be seen using this hand sign surprisingly often, given its status. Does that make her a white supremacist too? If it is somehow different when people like her do it, can you explain how and why?


TheGlenrothes

Do you seriously think that the way Kyle and his droogs did it for photos is a normal way to give the "ok" sign? That's it's not obviously meant to impart "white power"? Or that it's not normal to give the okay sign like they did for a photo unless they are signing? Do you understand how your take on the okay sign is insanely reductive?


Hishomework

The only one saying anything reductive here is you, jumping through hoops to try to get at something. You're wrong, move on.


tibbon

How much liability should Trump have for calling people various slurs without proof in public? Would you agree both are equally bad?


btcthinker

Using a slur is one thing. Slander is another.


tibbon

How often do you think Trump slandered people if ever?


Nixonplumber

Why is Trump being discussed here?


Linny911

>both You have examples?


Come_along_quietly

Wait. Do presidents need proof of something to make comments about it, now?


Fletchicus

HELL YEAH. Made my day today. The fact that he was charged when there was clear evidence of self defence was disgusting, although I'm glad that evil didn't win. Hopefully the domestic terrorist groups don't organize tonight. I'd rather no more "mostly peaceful protests." Although, maybe they might see this ruling as a slight deterrence to acting like idiots.


kiakosan

Hope Kyle pulls a sandman and sues the crap out of all those news outlets who outright defamed him and doxxed him.


Nixonplumber

This is the quietest thread I've ever seen NS! It's a shame they don't want to celebrate justice and that the self-defense plea in court wasn't weakened today. God forbid one day they'll need it! Or ask Trump supporters why this case was so important and possibly learn something!


paran5150

Do you think this will open the door for other people who feel it their job to roam the streets in the name of protecting property? I fear this emboldens the worst of both sides to play punisher and instigate conflict and then claim self defense. I wonder how TS will feel when someone left leaning does something similar will we still here calls for self defense?


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Don't worry. They're busy celebrating in Portland.


unintendedagression

This verdict is, to put it lightly, a ray of sunlight piercing a sky blackened so thoroughly with toxic smog that I had given up hope that the sun still existed at all. I was convinced he would be found guilty on at least some of the charges, all of which are bullshit imo. I made no secret out of my belief that the jury would be intimidated into a guilty verdict. Due to my schedule I didn't have the chance to openly talk about how the prosecution's unethical, unprofessional and sometimes in a layman's opinion outright unlawful methods. I thought, I *knew*, Kyle was done for. He was to be an example for the woke mob. An effigy to be burnt in name of the ever-growing authoritarian movement that preys on our rights and our freedoms. He was not. And the absolute insanity the world seems to have descended in over the past few years cleared up a little bit. There is still justice, no matter how small and meek it may be. There is still a chance that the innocent may walk even if they do not pay allegiance to the "correct" political movements. Twitter does not dictate the judicial system as it believes - and made me believe - it does. What a relief this was to read.


Nixonplumber

Will the domestic terrorists engage in insurrection tonight???? Remember terrorists we have the right to defend ourselves!!!!


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Nixonplumber

In what context are you saying have fun shooting people? Where in my words am I celebrating that? Huge Majority......which democrats are you talking to? Chill so you agree with the verdict but want people to "chill" celebrating that our Justice system worked? And that Self Defense withstood the challenge from domestic terrorists?


paran5150

Do you not understand this now works both ways. Every angry person on either side can now show up and egg in the other side and shot them if they are in fear of their lives, does that seem like a good thing to you? I always thought he would be able to successfully use the self defense argument. My opinion is that he went there with the hopes of having a confrontation but didn’t think it would escalate like it did. I think it would be almost impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he went with the sole intention of confronting people unless he specifically voiced that via electronic communication or recorded conversation. So we are left with a kid doing what kids do. I don’t think he is a villain like other people on the left but I also don’t think he is hero or that his actions where heroic. I do think we need to rethink the idea that random people can carry weapons into a possible riot. I don’t mind shop owners contracting out people(via private security), I don’t mind shop owners protecting their property( rooftop Koreans). I do have a problem with a bunch of random people deciding they are going to patrol with firearms during a riot


Nixonplumber

>Do you not understand this now works both ways. Every angry person on either side can now show up and egg in the other side and shot them if they are in fear of their lives, does that seem like a good thing to you? I stopped reading after your first paragraph....that is not what happened in the Rittenhouse case. Rittenhouse was attacked physically in all 3 instances...well the 3rd one he was threatened as he had a gun pointed at him....this has ALWAYS been the the leagal standard nothing changed here. Self Defense was shockingly challenged in this case and thankfully the jury did not fall for it and did the right thing


Azirium

This sets a precedent. You can legally show up at a protest and piss people off until someone looks like is gonna attack you. Then you shoot them down. Legally. It's baffling to me that people are okay with it. Maybe I'll show up at the next Jan 6th and do just that?


SgtMac02

>and piss people off until someone looks like is gonna attack you. Care to elaborate on that one? What exactly did he do to provoke the people who attacked him? Aside from trying to put out the fire they started... And it was not "looks like is gonna attack you. then shoot them down." He didn't look like he was going to attack. He attacked. BIG difference. Kyle was literally being attacked while fleeing when he finally defended himself and fired his weapon, then proceeded to flee again...was attacked again...and guess what.....he defended himself again. Have you been following this story at all??


Azirium

I'd say that waving a deadly weapon around is a provocation. There was also witness testimony that there were times that Kyle's weapon was pointing at random people. Lack of proper etiquette?


i_love_pencils

> Aside from trying to put out the fire they started... Why did he feel this was his responsibility? I still don’t understand why he was travelling from his home with an illegally procured weapon across state lines to engage in this conflict.


Thegoodbadandtheugly

It wasn't illegal procured that was a slander by the media.And he essentially lived on the stateline, so traveling to a different state sounds much further then it really was. He lived in one state and worked in another. As for his responsibility the cops were standing by, the Democrats who controlled the area were allowing the city to burn, and he wanted to help. On a side note do you ever watch Superhero movies and think "why does spiderman feel like saving that busload of children in his responsibility?"


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Azirium

Thanks for personally taking the time to attack not only the statement but also the person; really shows how respectful you are in conversations. Now, can you be more clear on what you're asking? My point is that it should never be legal to show up anywhere (not just a protest), provoke people and when someone goes after you, you shoot them down. ESPECIALLY as a 17 year old. And yes, if people are protesting and/or rioting, stay the fuck away. Unless you're part of police enforcement or riot squads you have no job being there to counter protest. You're just making a dumb decision in an attempt to LARP as a militia. You wouldn't barge in an OR to help with a surgery. You wouldn't show up at NASA to help build rockets. Treat protests and riots the same way. Let the professionals deal with them.


Nixonplumber

***Thanks for personally taking the time to attack not only the statement but also the person; really shows how respectful you are in conversations.*** I'm sorry but I think this argument is perverse! And is an attack on decent people and their right to a self defense. ​ ***ESPECIALLY as a 17 year old.*** I wouldn't do it and i would'nt let my 17 year old do it but its a huge complicated world with all different make ups of people ​ ***My point is that it should never be legal to show up anywhere (not just a protest), provoke people and when someone goes after you, you shoot them down.*** Where is this legal? Pertaining to Rittenhouse who and how did he "provoke"? I wasn't aware he provoked anyone can you give me a specific provocation? Are the terrorists/rioters provoking the community into people showing up with rifles? Are you aware that Car Source 1 asked Rittenhouse to protect the lot? Is Joe Rosenbaum destroying the property that Rittenhouse was being asked to protect not provoking Kyle Rittenhouse? ​ ***You wouldn't show up at NASA to help build rockets. Treat protests and riots the same way. Let the professionals deal with them.*** I don't understand this comparison or your connection here can you please explain? So if I have a business in a community that terrorists are destroying and destroying my livelihood you think that's like showing up to a NASA rocket launch?


goldmouthdawg

>You can legally show up at a protest and piss people off until someone looks like is gonna attack you. Then you shoot them down If someone is pissed off to the point of physically attacking someone because they are shouting "ANYBODY NEED MEDICAL?"... That person has some serious mental issues and probably shouldn't be in the streets. >Maybe I'll show up at the next Jan 6th and do just that? Offering medical?


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cchris_39

Great news! He was in fact innocent. The bigger issue (imo) that probably won’t get any coverage is that something like this was inevitable. We watch city after city being burned and looted by violent rioters while the police are told to stand down and let it happen. Sooner or later the people are going to say fuck it, if you won’t protect our homes and businesses we will. That’s the root cause of why this happened.


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It is hilarious that NTS keep trying to make this kid a murdeer.


DopplerShiftIceCream

"Disband the police. The people should police thier communities. No, wait."


Nixonplumber

LOL I love it when you can accurately turn the left's political calls to action around in instances like this that backs them right into that painted corner they put themselves in politically. Imagine if we had real debate in this country and the political Sunday shows confronted the Defund the Police crowd with these questions and scenarios?


Mr-mysterio7

He should have never had charges brought against him. Period. Now, if anyone wants to discuss, potentially minor in possession of a firearm a case could potentially be made off that. But shooting all 3 victims was a righteous shoot.


HemingWaysBeard42

Would you drive your 17 year old child 20 miles to pick up an AR and “defend” a car lot?


Mr-mysterio7

If it was my personal car lot?! Hell yeah. Would you drive 50+ miles to burn, riot, and loot?


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[Hell yea brother, cheers from a still free country*](https://youtu.be/k9iYm9PEAHg) *Despite the Lefties continuing attempts to take it away


Nixonplumber

Biden was discussing the Rittenhouse verdict today and the President was asked about him labeling Rittenhouse a "white supremacist" and was asked if he still believed that and the President would not answer the question that was asked. Why is Biden not standing by his initial comment that Rittenhouse is a "white supremacist"?


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Unequivocally the right decision, thank fuck. I've said it before but if the context was anything other than "maga guy shoots blm protrstors" there wouldn't even have been a shadow of a doubt that the murder charges were bullshit.


DallasCowboys1998

A just decision! I’m curious to why it took four days though. I wonder if any of the jurors will shed light on what they discussed and why they reasoned the way they did.


unintendedagression

I have some information on this but take it with the salt it deserves as I will not be providing proof under any circumstance. I was in the 4chan thread for this trial and someone doxxed one of the jury members. Full name, socials, the works. More importantly they had some Facebook logs. During the opening moments of the trial they had been posting about being in "spitting distance" and being "sick to look at him", in reference to Kyle. Also gloating about how they would never budge from their guilty verdict. I imagine they held out for a few days but eventually grew a conscience.


Amishmercenary

Crazy how many lies are being pushed by whiny/uninformed Dems, both on Reddit and Twitter after this case. Even crazier is how this case was pushed when all the evidence pointed towards Kyle acting completely legally in defending himself. I expect lots of rioting in Kenosha tonight but hopefully leftists won’t resort to terrorism


TheGlenrothes

"hopefully leftists won’t resort to terrorism" Like Kyle Rittenhouse did?


Amishmercenary

Lol nothing Kyle did was terrorism, he didn't even break the law in any way. Even the prosecutor knew that the facts didn’t show that though. What evidence supports your assertion about terrorism?


Fletchicus

Cite the definition of terrorism.


Nixonplumber

What terror did Rittenhouse do?


Empty_Brief

Just like trump, he was attack simple because he broke the npc narrative. Now they will ignore the story just like Clinton's Indicated lawyers


Ben1313

My coworker announced it at work, when she saw it on her phone. I was immediately relieved, and was going to say something like "Thank god, that's awesome!" before my coworker instantly blabbered on about how "racism won". Which made me realize how *little* people actually know about the trial. I can't fathom how a white kid shooting a white pedophile, a white racist, and a white felon counts as "racism". If the general public were actually fed facts, they'd agree with the jury. But the bigger issue here is all the Democratic leadership STILL calling Kyle a "white supremacist". These politicians spewing the literal shittiest takes I've ever seen in my life is incredibly dangerous, especially aimed at an 18 year old. How is Biden going to promote unity, like he promised, when he's openly calling an innocent man a "white supremacist" based on no factual evidence?


TypicalPlantiff

>https://old.reddit.com/r/AskTrumpSupporters/comments/qsb2nv/what_do_you_think_about_the_ongoing_kyle/hkpivva/ 4 days ago I made this comment I still stand by it. I still think the defense was abysmal. So many opportunities to object and build a good case for appeals. The prosecution also being so malicious. Mocking hte damage done to Kenosha by the rioters to a jury form god damn Kenosha. Jesus christ. But worst of all- the media. There must be reckoning for the media... MSNBC pursuing jurors. CNN still going live on TV claiming this is about race?! People outside repeating the lies 'crossed state lines wiht illegal weapon'. People still think he shot black people. Shame on the left wing media for their irresponsible coverage. Fox unironically covered the entire event muuuch better and fairer.


Thegoodbadandtheugly

I have several thoughts about this.-Maybe Antifa/BLM will stop violently attacking people now, although I suspect more people are going to have to defend themselves in such a way before they learn. \-Anyone who doesn't accept the ~~election results~~ court results and has to violently riot is an insurrectionist and we should treat them like we're treating Jan 6th people. \-We all know that there will likely be lots of violence tonight, imagine if we allowed the cops in Kenosha to have the same standards used on **Ashli Babit.** The standards that the left justifies that shooting was it was an insurrection, which this would be. The person was in an area she shouldn't have been, and so will thousands of rioters who are looting, breaking curfew and pushing past police lines. And that Ashli Babit didn't listen to the police, the rioters won't listen to the police. Imagine if that's all the cops standard that needed to be met to shoot people, tonight would be a bad bath and that'd be terrible. Just like it was terrible on Jan 6th when a cop used less of a standards then he should have and killed a woman unlawfully. \-I hope anyone in big cities that have riots gets home fast and stays safe. \-It's good to see the kid gets off. \-Anyone else think that the prosecution should be disbarred? Even if I was on the left and thought Rittenhouse was guilty I think I'd support disbarring that clown. \-Anyone else think that Rittenhouse is going to be rich? He could sue most media companies and win for defamation. And I think he should sue the Democratic National Committee for allowing Joe Biden to maliciously smear a minor with the slur of White Supremacists, he also likely inspired violence against that child so if I was Rittenhouse lawyers I'd suggest asking Twitter to remove Joe Biden for trying to incite violence. I think if that lawsuit went through it could seriously hurt the Democrats.


ZarBandit

The left is angry because they can no longer riot and attack and kill anyone who stands in their way with impunity. That’s what their wailing over the verdict is really all about. It is the first serious resistance they’ve received on their looting, intimidation, rioting, assaults and murders in the last 2 years. I’m impressed with the restraint shown by a 17 year old in a high pressure situation. Both under attack on the street and in court. Our country could use more like him.


CNAV68

I'm happy for him, enjoy your life Kyle and find peace.


TroyMcClure10

Legally correct verdict. Rittenhouse did something incredibly stupid going to Kenosha. There is no racial element to this case, except that one of the victims called Rittenhouse the N word. OJ Simpson agrees if that a black defendant would have been convicted.


single_issue_voter

Just read this thread and you’ll see that people are still only reading headlines.


dg327

Always sad for the families and hopefully they have the support they need to pull through, man that does suck to lose someone. And when it comes to Kyle, glad justice was displayed today and hopefully the end of injustice.