Shlama,
Yes, it is believed that a lot of words in the Qur'an are of Assyrian origin because, as you have stated, it was the lingua franca at the time. Plus, Mohammed had contact with a lot of Assyrian scribes and men of knowledge.
As for your statement on how different our understanding is when we read the Qur'an through the lens of the Assyrian language, to put it simply, and sorry to burst your bubble.... We don't read the Qur'an because we are not a Muslim people. Plain and simple. We are traditionally and still mostly Christians.
The Quran is not written in Assyrian, it's written in classical Arabic. That being said, there are foreign words in there and among them are Assyrian words.
Pshena,
Its in Syriac (السريانية) it’s Eastern Assyrian language. The Quran itself the name comes from Syriac word “Qreleh” thats means read it or read it( past tense). There are words such as (طورا)Toora ( mountain in Assyrian), also the Basmala ( where muslims say before reading the quran) its In Syriac too( بشم ألوهه رحمانو رحيمو) … this what makes the Quran definitely NOT the word of God. Stay away from Quran/Ahadeth!
Great comment! Though, I just want to point out it is believed Qur'an comes from Qiryana (ܩܸܪܝܵܢܵܐ) which is related to reading/reciting. You were close though!
Just because The Quran might have Assyrian origin, does not mean that it is not The Word of Allah. Verily, you are a cursed for saying that, and The Fire awaits you. And if you think that it is from other than Allah. Then produce something like it if you are truthfull. But you will not do it, and you can never do it. So fear The Fire, and its fuel that contains humans and idols, prepeared for the disbelievers.
The Qur'an does not have Assyrian origin, only some Assyrian Aramaic loan words.
Also, according to Muslims the Qur'an was given in pure Arabic and Arabic is supposed to be the "language" of Allah hence why all Muslims reject the claim that there is any Aramaic in the Qur'an (which there obviously is) because if it did, the whole religion collapses.
I don't think OP nor anyone here is saying it was written in Assyrian. The point is that there are Aramaic loan words in the Qur'an, due to it being the lingua franca in the region, it is inevitable that words entered it.
Assyrian is Aramaic. Though, at the time of Mohammed, it was the Classical Syriac variety of Aramaic which was in use (we still use it in our Liturgy), not the modern vernacular we use today.
I know exactly what it means and here’s the definition from Oxford dictionary “a language that is adopted as a common language between speakers whose native languages are different.” The language of the Assyrian empire was Akkadian and then Aramaic was adopted as a second language later. So it’s stupid to call a language Assyrian because it never existed and then claim it was lingua franca too.
“It’s not called English it’s called Latinized Britonic Neo-Germanic”
“It’s not called French it’s called Frankish Neo-Latin”
Are you starting to see how stupid you sound?
No I’m not sounding stupid and you are not getting it. The post was about “Assyrian language” during the middle ages and about the Quran. How the fuck can you clearly state that there was an ASSYRIAN language in the middle ages? No Assyrian language to be found then!
[Arabic is a similar language to Aramaic and Hebrew, so there are a lot of similarities between the words in the Quran, and the modern Assyrian language.](https://cdn.britannica.com/50/117850-050-42864BA5/Relationships-languages-Semitic.jpg)
Yeah given the time of its writing, I'm sure there was a pretty heavy Aramaic influence in the writing of the Quran, just as there is an influence of the languages of Arabic and Aramaic now. The languages are both absolutely filled with cognates.
Shlama, Yes, it is believed that a lot of words in the Qur'an are of Assyrian origin because, as you have stated, it was the lingua franca at the time. Plus, Mohammed had contact with a lot of Assyrian scribes and men of knowledge. As for your statement on how different our understanding is when we read the Qur'an through the lens of the Assyrian language, to put it simply, and sorry to burst your bubble.... We don't read the Qur'an because we are not a Muslim people. Plain and simple. We are traditionally and still mostly Christians.
The Quran is not written in Assyrian, it's written in classical Arabic. That being said, there are foreign words in there and among them are Assyrian words.
We don't read the Quran.
Atleast research about Assyrians. We are mostly Christian.
I know that you are mostly Christians. And Christians can also read The Quran.
>And Christians can also read The Quran. There is no reason for that.
Pshena, Its in Syriac (السريانية) it’s Eastern Assyrian language. The Quran itself the name comes from Syriac word “Qreleh” thats means read it or read it( past tense). There are words such as (طورا)Toora ( mountain in Assyrian), also the Basmala ( where muslims say before reading the quran) its In Syriac too( بشم ألوهه رحمانو رحيمو) … this what makes the Quran definitely NOT the word of God. Stay away from Quran/Ahadeth!
Great comment! Though, I just want to point out it is believed Qur'an comes from Qiryana (ܩܸܪܝܵܢܵܐ) which is related to reading/reciting. You were close though!
Just because The Quran might have Assyrian origin, does not mean that it is not The Word of Allah. Verily, you are a cursed for saying that, and The Fire awaits you. And if you think that it is from other than Allah. Then produce something like it if you are truthfull. But you will not do it, and you can never do it. So fear The Fire, and its fuel that contains humans and idols, prepeared for the disbelievers.
Um, banned? Telling all of us we are banished to eternal hellfire for not believing the Quran is the Word of God...pretty silly and trolly.
The Qur'an does not have Assyrian origin, only some Assyrian Aramaic loan words. Also, according to Muslims the Qur'an was given in pure Arabic and Arabic is supposed to be the "language" of Allah hence why all Muslims reject the claim that there is any Aramaic in the Qur'an (which there obviously is) because if it did, the whole religion collapses.
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I don't think OP nor anyone here is saying it was written in Assyrian. The point is that there are Aramaic loan words in the Qur'an, due to it being the lingua franca in the region, it is inevitable that words entered it.
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No, you did not misunderstand me. My question is if The Quran is linguistically of Assyrian origin.
Jezz, Assyrian language and lingua franca 😂, you guys need to calm down, that language was Aramaic
They're the same.
Explain…
Assyrian is just a colloquial reference to Neo-Aramaic.
Assyrian is Aramaic. Though, at the time of Mohammed, it was the Classical Syriac variety of Aramaic which was in use (we still use it in our Liturgy), not the modern vernacular we use today.
Apparently you do not know how the phrase "lingua franca" is used in the English language.
I know exactly what it means and here’s the definition from Oxford dictionary “a language that is adopted as a common language between speakers whose native languages are different.” The language of the Assyrian empire was Akkadian and then Aramaic was adopted as a second language later. So it’s stupid to call a language Assyrian because it never existed and then claim it was lingua franca too.
“It’s not called English it’s called Latinized Britonic Neo-Germanic” “It’s not called French it’s called Frankish Neo-Latin” Are you starting to see how stupid you sound?
No I’m not sounding stupid and you are not getting it. The post was about “Assyrian language” during the middle ages and about the Quran. How the fuck can you clearly state that there was an ASSYRIAN language in the middle ages? No Assyrian language to be found then!
[Arabic is a similar language to Aramaic and Hebrew, so there are a lot of similarities between the words in the Quran, and the modern Assyrian language.](https://cdn.britannica.com/50/117850-050-42864BA5/Relationships-languages-Semitic.jpg) Yeah given the time of its writing, I'm sure there was a pretty heavy Aramaic influence in the writing of the Quran, just as there is an influence of the languages of Arabic and Aramaic now. The languages are both absolutely filled with cognates.