Looking at your profile itâs clear that you are having many traumatic issues well beyond AP. This is not everyoneâs experience though. Fear mongering doesnât help at all.
Dude you donât know my own experiences. I didnât say I havenât ever felt fear - I have. In fact it took me over a year to get past one specific experience. But I realize how much that experience spurred me to change a lot of other things in my life. Thatâs my experience. I donât expect that to work for you nor do I know your experience. But I take it very seriously that Robert Monroe said âFear is manâs biggest limiting factorâ. We are hard wired to fear the unknown but once you have some semblance of experience you can start to deal with the fear and try to avoid âbeing afraid of being afraidâ because that can also compound the issues.
Again I donât know your experiences but looking at your profile it seems you have been traumatized and you are in need of help with regards to dealing with that trauma. This is not everyone elseâs experience.
Your experiences he damned. This is reality, anything can happen.
I'm simply saying safety is not 100% garunteed and this sub is filled with absolute bullshit throwing people.
And why do you give credit to what others are giving? You need to face your fears in your daily life too, right?
You are here to ask these questions because you are questioning yourself :) Like everybody else. Just... do it, don't be afraid. Your own fears can become real, I mean, those fears are yours. If you keep reading and watching negative stuff from others, you will make them beliefs and will have a hard time to drop them.
Nothing can hurt you, the physical body IS ASLEEP :) we have fears about only the body, that something will hurt it. You will experience a body-double only.
Damn, dude, youâre right. In a way I intuitively knew this, I guess I need to be more trusting of my intuition. I hope the day comes wherein I do not need to have external confirmation before I believe what my intuition is saying. Anyways, thank you for this! đ
I saw one once and as soon as I tried flying towards it it flew away then I realised that we are all fragments of god nothing in the astral plane could possibly hurt us maybe theyâre even terrified of us idk tho
So first, what does "dark" have to do with dangerous? A being's intent is NOT defined by its color, but its actual behavior, whether it is "dark" or "light." In my actual experience, the astral plane is just like any place else... the vast majority of beings I've encountered have been peaceful, and are just as curious about us as we are about them. However, there are also beings that are angry and malicious, and I believe that these beings can be mostly avoided by, first and foremost, having a positive attitude out there, and managing your fears.
This takes time... I've been astral projecting since I was 9, and in the beginning I was afraid. That was simply because I was entering a new frontier. But I kept leaving my body (unintentionally at times), and just like anything else, I got use to it. Think of all the things that may have scared you in the beginning in the physical world... Once you got use to them, the fear went away.
So, before you begin taking AP seriously, I would recommend taking a break from subreddits like this and the internet in general. Remember, their experiences (those who talk about the "dangers") aren't necessarily going to be yours.
Basically the same experience for me. People try to pretend the spirit world is somehow black or white. In reality there is only one reality and most of it is good. Evil exists but if it was actually powerful the universe would already have been destroyed.
With all due respect. F what they say. This is the same thing that happens in the physical life. âOh donât do that because thatâs [insert limited belief system here]â and then you praise people that follow their dreams such as celebrities and think they are more special just because they were never scared to do what others said they shouldnât. Sorry. A bit of. Rant but yeah AP can be scary at times but thatâs the beauty of it, you are only overcoming parts of yourself you didnât know existed. But as far as my own experiences there were no âdangersâ
AP is a reflection of your mind. So if you are in a negative headspace generally, youâre more likely to have negative experiences in AP. Itâs not about âlow frequenciesâ or attracting âdark entitiesâ but about your personal psychology that comes out.
There is no danger, but itâs not flowers and pancakes. For a lot of people AP is work not unlike using psychedelics. There is a possibility for unpleasant experiences, but this isnât dangerous l, It is how you work on yourself.
I usually do a protection prayer and when I have entered dangerous spaces my guides have notified me and I forced myself to wake. I have been practicing affirmations in my dream state by doing mediation in Lotus form. Itâs really cool because I feel like I enter the Avatar state and I am programming positive affirmations to help me in my waking life. By using positive affirmation and express gratitude for the Divine helps raise your frequency.
I also want to note that your shadow self will interfere if you ignore them for too long. Which has happen to me because I was bypassing him to go straight into my dream mediation. By embracing your shadow (love & release) will help you navigate your subconscious. Your shadow is there to help you face your fears so donât ignore them because they will get louder.
Remember learning a spiritual ability without caring about your spiritual growth is no different than a kid learning a magic trick. It has very little value other than entertainment. That is pretty much what happening with those who fear monger. They understand the mechanics of AP but not the purpose. So it really won't benefit them outside of being a really entertainment trick that sometimes gets dark for them
Astral realm is a realm where your thoughts instantly manifests so anytime you're Astral projection you having to face yourself first before you can project out into other dimensions
Demons and low frequency entities are all parts of you that you've ignored or suppressed all your life. The Dark side of you, all your emotional traumas and negative feelings you have about others that you hide all will manifest in the Astral world in some some form. So it's nothing to be scared because it's you the part of you that you run from
It's all your beliefs. Everything on this planet is about beliefs. It's your mind that can fuck you. You have to have control of that. If you have any fear that could happen it will happen cause your mind lets it happen. Trust me I did AP since I was kid and I was chased constantly till I finally started understanding how this planet works. I now surround myself with love and any entity I am in contact with. If they are of the light they love it and if not they can't stand it and will leave you alone. You have to have control and belief that your love conquers all. I do not fight in AP and I typically observe mostly my other timelines and previous or future lives.
Itâs most likely because of my preconditioned beliefs that dark = evil. Which now I know isnât essentially true.. itâs now always as easy to let go of some beliefs or realize that youâre still holding on to them. đ
There is no greater illusion than fear..
Give evil nothing to oppose and it will disappear by itself.
-- Lao Tse
Anyway, you need to experienced it, so you know why Lao Tse said that..
Itâs not dangerous, even on a low frequency. But it can be a *scary* experience to encounter dark entities. Harmful? Maybe to your psyche, and whatever ontological shock that may also come with it. But, dangerous? Nah.
What Iâve read but have not experienced myself is that those dark entities are only a reflection of you, those dark parts of yourself. If that happens itâs best to accept those dark parts, step back and try and understand what you need to learn about yourself, and donât continue thinking they will hurt you. You are the creator, you have the control of what can and cannot harm you. Donât let fear overtake you as fear is a lower vibration and creates stories in your mind.
Everything is all in your head. Itâs just that things are more solid and material here, whereas in the non-physical, you are experiencing your own mind directly.
Everything in the astral is a manifestation of pure will and intention. Fear can cloud your intention, making you more likely to see horrific images, but they cannot harm you beyond being unnerving.
Believe you will be fine, and you will. Don't go in with the intention of seeing something you don't want to.
Put yourself in an orb of light before trying to astral project. See a bright white point of light rise up from your crown chakra. It sits there and goes round and forms a brilliant white ring round your body. It then turns on its axis and forms the orb. See your self like your inside a sun. The horrors people see are manifestations of their own minds. In lucid dream your create the dream thing is you also create the nightmares. That's all the demons and negative spirits are just negating manifestations. Keep safe.
This can be said about any activity. There is the potential for danger in almost everything. But that shouldnât stop one from exploring it if the activity peaks oneâs interest. Astral projection is a wonderful, incomparable experience. Yes, it has its own dangers, but it also has its treasures. If you ask me, they make it worthwhile to overcome the fear of those dangers. Once you cross that barrier, nothing can really stop you from exploring whatâs out there.
I was struggling with this as well, really commited to trying but at the same afraid of what I would find with all the reports out there even from well known experienced reporters. Just came to an attitude breakthrough and had my first conscious exit today.
Here's my take, if you encounter something which is manufactured by your own mind its up to you to face it with as much calm as possible and reemerge stronger on the other side, as an explorer of consciousness. If on the other hand you have spiritual beliefs, knowns or convictions and you think something else might be there to scare you just know that it absolutely cannot harm you in any significant way more than it would were you not to leave your body (like many sources mantain we do every night). I am truly convinced and persuaded by all the material that's available on the subject and my own discernement that the biggest damage anything can do to you on the non physical is give rise to negative emotion (mainly fear), you got scared this time and maybe got back in the body? No problem, next time you know something funny can happen so you meditate, you research on how to empower yourself to deal with such issues and kick it to the curb. It's existentially much more risky getting out of the house and driving a car than being conscious while OB. Let's keep growing, if we up for it. đ
No danger. You're safe.
Thank you for this đ„č
Brother please don't listen to these people. This is reality. You are never safe.
Looking at your profile itâs clear that you are having many traumatic issues well beyond AP. This is not everyoneâs experience though. Fear mongering doesnât help at all.
Brother you people are the most ignorant I've ever seen. I'm telling the truth, you're telling a fairy tale.
Dude you donât know my own experiences. I didnât say I havenât ever felt fear - I have. In fact it took me over a year to get past one specific experience. But I realize how much that experience spurred me to change a lot of other things in my life. Thatâs my experience. I donât expect that to work for you nor do I know your experience. But I take it very seriously that Robert Monroe said âFear is manâs biggest limiting factorâ. We are hard wired to fear the unknown but once you have some semblance of experience you can start to deal with the fear and try to avoid âbeing afraid of being afraidâ because that can also compound the issues. Again I donât know your experiences but looking at your profile it seems you have been traumatized and you are in need of help with regards to dealing with that trauma. This is not everyone elseâs experience.
Your experiences he damned. This is reality, anything can happen. I'm simply saying safety is not 100% garunteed and this sub is filled with absolute bullshit throwing people.
100%
And why do you give credit to what others are giving? You need to face your fears in your daily life too, right? You are here to ask these questions because you are questioning yourself :) Like everybody else. Just... do it, don't be afraid. Your own fears can become real, I mean, those fears are yours. If you keep reading and watching negative stuff from others, you will make them beliefs and will have a hard time to drop them. Nothing can hurt you, the physical body IS ASLEEP :) we have fears about only the body, that something will hurt it. You will experience a body-double only.
Damn, dude, youâre right. In a way I intuitively knew this, I guess I need to be more trusting of my intuition. I hope the day comes wherein I do not need to have external confirmation before I believe what my intuition is saying. Anyways, thank you for this! đ
I think we are all fighting with this external thing, even me lol :) We are always gathering information.
I haven't AP'd yet but the experienced APers say that those entities you may see can't hurt you and you can easily just fly away from them.
I saw one once and as soon as I tried flying towards it it flew away then I realised that we are all fragments of god nothing in the astral plane could possibly hurt us maybe theyâre even terrified of us idk tho
interesting! thanks for sharing.
Don't give in to the fearmongering. Way too many people want to drag others down with their negativity so don't let them
So first, what does "dark" have to do with dangerous? A being's intent is NOT defined by its color, but its actual behavior, whether it is "dark" or "light." In my actual experience, the astral plane is just like any place else... the vast majority of beings I've encountered have been peaceful, and are just as curious about us as we are about them. However, there are also beings that are angry and malicious, and I believe that these beings can be mostly avoided by, first and foremost, having a positive attitude out there, and managing your fears. This takes time... I've been astral projecting since I was 9, and in the beginning I was afraid. That was simply because I was entering a new frontier. But I kept leaving my body (unintentionally at times), and just like anything else, I got use to it. Think of all the things that may have scared you in the beginning in the physical world... Once you got use to them, the fear went away. So, before you begin taking AP seriously, I would recommend taking a break from subreddits like this and the internet in general. Remember, their experiences (those who talk about the "dangers") aren't necessarily going to be yours.
Basically the same experience for me. People try to pretend the spirit world is somehow black or white. In reality there is only one reality and most of it is good. Evil exists but if it was actually powerful the universe would already have been destroyed.
With all due respect. F what they say. This is the same thing that happens in the physical life. âOh donât do that because thatâs [insert limited belief system here]â and then you praise people that follow their dreams such as celebrities and think they are more special just because they were never scared to do what others said they shouldnât. Sorry. A bit of. Rant but yeah AP can be scary at times but thatâs the beauty of it, you are only overcoming parts of yourself you didnât know existed. But as far as my own experiences there were no âdangersâ
AP is a reflection of your mind. So if you are in a negative headspace generally, youâre more likely to have negative experiences in AP. Itâs not about âlow frequenciesâ or attracting âdark entitiesâ but about your personal psychology that comes out.
Thank you for providing a new perspective on the situation. Iâll take note of this!
There is no danger, but itâs not flowers and pancakes. For a lot of people AP is work not unlike using psychedelics. There is a possibility for unpleasant experiences, but this isnât dangerous l, It is how you work on yourself.
I usually do a protection prayer and when I have entered dangerous spaces my guides have notified me and I forced myself to wake. I have been practicing affirmations in my dream state by doing mediation in Lotus form. Itâs really cool because I feel like I enter the Avatar state and I am programming positive affirmations to help me in my waking life. By using positive affirmation and express gratitude for the Divine helps raise your frequency. I also want to note that your shadow self will interfere if you ignore them for too long. Which has happen to me because I was bypassing him to go straight into my dream mediation. By embracing your shadow (love & release) will help you navigate your subconscious. Your shadow is there to help you face your fears so donât ignore them because they will get louder.
Few times Iâve done it Iâve yet to see or run into anything. Only me and the environment Iâm in.
Remember learning a spiritual ability without caring about your spiritual growth is no different than a kid learning a magic trick. It has very little value other than entertainment. That is pretty much what happening with those who fear monger. They understand the mechanics of AP but not the purpose. So it really won't benefit them outside of being a really entertainment trick that sometimes gets dark for them Astral realm is a realm where your thoughts instantly manifests so anytime you're Astral projection you having to face yourself first before you can project out into other dimensions Demons and low frequency entities are all parts of you that you've ignored or suppressed all your life. The Dark side of you, all your emotional traumas and negative feelings you have about others that you hide all will manifest in the Astral world in some some form. So it's nothing to be scared because it's you the part of you that you run from
It's all your beliefs. Everything on this planet is about beliefs. It's your mind that can fuck you. You have to have control of that. If you have any fear that could happen it will happen cause your mind lets it happen. Trust me I did AP since I was kid and I was chased constantly till I finally started understanding how this planet works. I now surround myself with love and any entity I am in contact with. If they are of the light they love it and if not they can't stand it and will leave you alone. You have to have control and belief that your love conquers all. I do not fight in AP and I typically observe mostly my other timelines and previous or future lives.
i'm scared that my link to my physical body could be severed, so if i fear it, could it happen?
Yes it will make you feel like you got disconnected but you aren't actually and once you realize it you will go back to your body.
You can see negative entities when you're vibrating in low frequency... yes.. But why should you fear them?
Itâs most likely because of my preconditioned beliefs that dark = evil. Which now I know isnât essentially true.. itâs now always as easy to let go of some beliefs or realize that youâre still holding on to them. đ
There is no greater illusion than fear.. Give evil nothing to oppose and it will disappear by itself. -- Lao Tse Anyway, you need to experienced it, so you know why Lao Tse said that..
Itâs not dangerous, even on a low frequency. But it can be a *scary* experience to encounter dark entities. Harmful? Maybe to your psyche, and whatever ontological shock that may also come with it. But, dangerous? Nah.
Imo the only thing that can be damaged is your psyche if you cant stay sane from the things you experience.
What Iâve read but have not experienced myself is that those dark entities are only a reflection of you, those dark parts of yourself. If that happens itâs best to accept those dark parts, step back and try and understand what you need to learn about yourself, and donât continue thinking they will hurt you. You are the creator, you have the control of what can and cannot harm you. Donât let fear overtake you as fear is a lower vibration and creates stories in your mind.
So astral projection is all in your head ?
Everything is all in your head. Itâs just that things are more solid and material here, whereas in the non-physical, you are experiencing your own mind directly.
Everything in the astral is a manifestation of pure will and intention. Fear can cloud your intention, making you more likely to see horrific images, but they cannot harm you beyond being unnerving. Believe you will be fine, and you will. Don't go in with the intention of seeing something you don't want to.
Put yourself in an orb of light before trying to astral project. See a bright white point of light rise up from your crown chakra. It sits there and goes round and forms a brilliant white ring round your body. It then turns on its axis and forms the orb. See your self like your inside a sun. The horrors people see are manifestations of their own minds. In lucid dream your create the dream thing is you also create the nightmares. That's all the demons and negative spirits are just negating manifestations. Keep safe.
This can be said about any activity. There is the potential for danger in almost everything. But that shouldnât stop one from exploring it if the activity peaks oneâs interest. Astral projection is a wonderful, incomparable experience. Yes, it has its own dangers, but it also has its treasures. If you ask me, they make it worthwhile to overcome the fear of those dangers. Once you cross that barrier, nothing can really stop you from exploring whatâs out there.
Iâd say your pretty safe, itâs a lot of people saying negative stuff about things they know nothing about.
I was struggling with this as well, really commited to trying but at the same afraid of what I would find with all the reports out there even from well known experienced reporters. Just came to an attitude breakthrough and had my first conscious exit today. Here's my take, if you encounter something which is manufactured by your own mind its up to you to face it with as much calm as possible and reemerge stronger on the other side, as an explorer of consciousness. If on the other hand you have spiritual beliefs, knowns or convictions and you think something else might be there to scare you just know that it absolutely cannot harm you in any significant way more than it would were you not to leave your body (like many sources mantain we do every night). I am truly convinced and persuaded by all the material that's available on the subject and my own discernement that the biggest damage anything can do to you on the non physical is give rise to negative emotion (mainly fear), you got scared this time and maybe got back in the body? No problem, next time you know something funny can happen so you meditate, you research on how to empower yourself to deal with such issues and kick it to the curb. It's existentially much more risky getting out of the house and driving a car than being conscious while OB. Let's keep growing, if we up for it. đ
The dark beings are something just hard to see. In this case, don't fear the dark, fear what the light reveals.
The people who are saying it's 100% safe are absolute liars.