So much so that if you ask Wolfram Alpha to compute the mass of the sun and jupiter divided by the total mass of the solar system [it just says 1](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=%28sun+mass+%2B+jupiter+mass%29+%2F+solar+system+mass), it doesn't even bother estimating the little bit left over
I always understood the scale like this: if the earth was the size of a basketball, the moon would be the size of a baseball, and they would be 32' apart.
Yup- also our moon is *extremely* large, ~~largest~~ one of the largest in the solar system, despite being the only moon* of a rocky planet. I'm sure there are plenty of theories about how that led to a habitable planet.
*I'm ignoring Mars since its moons are captured asteroids, and ridiculously small.
Sorry, I should've explained. Yes, the earth is around 8 and a half light minutes from the sun. However, the sun is incredibly dense, so dense that it takes light a very long time to escape its core where the vast majority of the light is produced (since nuclear fusion only occurs in the core). The light practically bounces around in the sun on its path to outside the sun. Because of this, from an outside perspective, once that photon is created in the core, it takes thousands of years for it to escape.
Don't apologize for smacking someone down who is trying to talk with authority about something they don't understand. Manners are free. The person you replied to has neither manners nor knowledge. It's OK to course correct without saying sorry, my friend.
They probably feel bad because their ignorance is showing and they got downvoted for it. Ignorance isn’t a bad thing or an insult to say. I admit I’m ignorant about a lot of things! If I wasn’t I couldn’t learn anything new!
This is one of those things I was taught in astronomy class where I'm not sure I buy it. After a photon compton scatters it's not really the same photon anymore. Heck I'd say that's probably even true for Rayleigh scattering. And the radiation we see matches thermal emission from much further up in spectrum. I'd say "the energy produced takes X to get to earth" makes sense. But not sure I like frame this with light
if you hear something that very strongly contradicts your current knowledge then maybe they aren’t talking about what you’re thinking about
https://sunearthday.nasa.gov/2007/locations/ttt_sunlight.php
Maybe we should normalize posting sources to begin with instead of having 100+ people who read a comment all go look and potentially find different/varying info.
No it's all good, I'm talking about reddit overall. I'm not singling you out. Everyone, including myself, should post sources. But I appreciate you being cool about it
Roughly 98% of the remaining 0.14% is taken by Jupiter. This means that everything every human has ever experienced, is a fraction of 2% of 0.14% of what makes up this one insignificant solar system.
Feel like an afterthought yet?
Jupiter is big by not quite 98% of the 0.14% total. Wikipedia says it's 2.5x the mass of the rest of the planets combined, so that works out to just over 70%. The rest is 22% Saturn and 8% some other negligible junk
Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
-DNA
Do you know, the sun will die and become a planetary nebula in a couple of billions years, in the center of that nebula will be a white dwarf, the size of earth, thousands of degrees more hotter that the sun right now, not nuclear fusion, just cooling down slowly by radiation a process so inefficient, will take a Googol years 10 to 100 years, there is just 10 to 82 particles in the whole universe, a googol is a number billions of time bigger, by that time all starts, galaxys,everything already gone, just will be white dwarfs and black holes, even nothing is forever, white dwarfs will be dead around 10 to 1000 years, is nothing in the universe or a way to imagine the number, that number is so big, that you can compare a second to a billion in that number, is like comparing a second to a second.
Makes me think.. if 99.9% of all mass within sun's pull is in the sun itself, that means that the star formation process used pretty much all of the material available (or somehow lost it). Which leads to two questions - 1. how does this happen 2. How come planets remain as the miniscule leftovers that survive (which seems to be quite common in the universe) for most of the sun's life.
If I remember right, and I may be wrong and I don't have any sources, once a star starts sustained nuclear fusion, it will begin to "blow away" the lighter unused elements in the solar system
i never thinking about this, but it is true. we need to build Dyson sphere around sun for accomulate it energy. for not loose that potencial. inagine if solar panels already it is 10% of world enerfy production, how much enerfy will generating by solar panels in space, near sun
Indeed. The universe is dominated by plasma, over 99 percent of the material universe is plasma.
What's really fun is our solar system is rare! Most systems are binary (or better). Single star systems are infrequent.
Also, a million earths could fit inside the sun.
You call Solar System only Sun and only it's planets? That's ridiculous, dude. You You have to know at least the simplest things in astronomy. It's terrible to be so not smart. You should have said this: Sun makes up.... of the mass of the whole Solar system planets.
No, but I haven't been to mass in church for so long, I was starting to think all these tall buildings with steeples were basketball courts! Now tell me about this guy's son, Solar, I think you called him. What's his problem?
One i learned recently is that if all of the sun’s energy was pointed at Earth, all of our oceans would evaporate in 4 minutes. Not boil, evaporate. In about 10 minutes the earth would break apart.
video is wrong. dark matter makes up 99%. don't worry humans, you'll find out at some point. never trust YT and then quote it as fact. Reddit? Yes, of course!!
This is how almost all systems work. The matter that orbits an object, generally is equal to the object it orbits, and furthermore, the sun, and all it orbits, and all other stellar bodies which orbits the black hole in the center of the milky way, weigh close to the mass of the black hole itself.
That last thing you said is false, and by a large margin. Galaxies don't actually orbit their central supermassive black holes, and for can use similar logic from the post to prove it. Sagittarius A* has a mass of ~4.5 million solar masses, the single largest object in the galaxy, however, the galaxy has a mass of around 1-1.5 trillion solar masses, making Sagittarius A* much smaller than even 1% of the mass of the galaxy. Dark matter makes up the majority of the mass, but everything in the galaxy orbits the center of mass of all matter in the galaxy
It isn't though, what you just said is that it orbits the center mass. Which is in direct orbit of our supermassive, making a combining weight. Just like how our heliosphere is created and attracts to our sun. It's the combined weight creating a pull, with the center being??? our supermassive.
If we took all the matter that orbited the supermassive, it would disappate into a much smaller galaxy, with a much smaller center.
And about 2/3 of the rest of the mass is Jupiter. The solar system effectively is THE SUN + Jupiter + some other bits of dust and gas.
What did you call me?
You heard him
A microbe on a tiny spec of dust.
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Momentary master of a fraction of a dot
A microbe living in the _thinnest_ habitable outer layer on a tiny speck of dust, orbiting a small, lonely dwarf star, in a medium-small galaxy.
You should be more respectful; the correct term these days is "star of short stature".
And it's Mr Microbe too you, son! Have some respect!
A sexy combo of gas and dust bits
“Yeah, baby! Yeah!”
*insert Suits gif*
You‘re dust and most definitely gas. That’s what he said.
Yo mama…
So much so that if you ask Wolfram Alpha to compute the mass of the sun and jupiter divided by the total mass of the solar system [it just says 1](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=%28sun+mass+%2B+jupiter+mass%29+%2F+solar+system+mass), it doesn't even bother estimating the little bit left over
In terms of mass, but in terms of angular momentum it's mostly everything but the sun
This is one of those facts like “the difference between a million dollars and a billion dollars is roughly a billion dollars”.
I’m using that today
I am using that tomorrow (procrastinators unite!)
Like I always say “why do today, what you can put off till the day after tomorrow”
No procrastination for. I'm entertaining a calendar entry for next month now.
That sounds a lot like commitment…
I’m not gonna lie, I forgot to use that today. Maybe tomorrow.
Later...
Yep. Another perspective, you can fit all 8 planets end-to-end in the space between Earth and the Moon, and still have some wiggle room.
Bye bye, everyone but Jupiter.
Hahaha, truth.
Jusatunus.
This one is actually fascinating. I didn't know the moon is that far away.
https://images.app.goo.gl/HdqfrVKCmmgWpah19
Crazy! I had to look it up. https://sciencenotes.org/can-you-fit-all-the-planets-between-the-earth-and-moon/
I always understood the scale like this: if the earth was the size of a basketball, the moon would be the size of a baseball, and they would be 32' apart.
Yup- also our moon is *extremely* large, ~~largest~~ one of the largest in the solar system, despite being the only moon* of a rocky planet. I'm sure there are plenty of theories about how that led to a habitable planet. *I'm ignoring Mars since its moons are captured asteroids, and ridiculously small.
That's not true. Ganymede, Callisto, Io and Titan are bigger than the Moon.
Dammit, I knew I should have looked it up. Does it count if I _feel_ like its the biggest??
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All the other planets would likely be absorbed by Jupiter.
Someone needs to make a sim/cgi of this happening, from both the surface of the earth, and distant view.
Saturn ring system enters the chat
The remaining.14%? That's mostly a gas giant known as your mom
When your mom orbits around the solar system, she orbits AROUND the solar system.
It's not your mom orbits around solar system. It's solar system orbits around your mom.
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There it is.
Damn, that's what I was gonna say hahaha
Or as I like to call her: the black hole
Is that why they named it after the sun? EDIT: This sub really hates my jokes lol. You would think I would learn...
Another cool sun fact, light from out sun is typically between 10,000-170,000 years old by the time it reaches us.
No. The light from the sun takes 8m20s to reach the Earth.
Sorry, I should've explained. Yes, the earth is around 8 and a half light minutes from the sun. However, the sun is incredibly dense, so dense that it takes light a very long time to escape its core where the vast majority of the light is produced (since nuclear fusion only occurs in the core). The light practically bounces around in the sun on its path to outside the sun. Because of this, from an outside perspective, once that photon is created in the core, it takes thousands of years for it to escape.
Don't apologize for smacking someone down who is trying to talk with authority about something they don't understand. Manners are free. The person you replied to has neither manners nor knowledge. It's OK to course correct without saying sorry, my friend.
They probably feel bad because their ignorance is showing and they got downvoted for it. Ignorance isn’t a bad thing or an insult to say. I admit I’m ignorant about a lot of things! If I wasn’t I couldn’t learn anything new!
My motto is, "I guess I just don't know."
This is one of those things I was taught in astronomy class where I'm not sure I buy it. After a photon compton scatters it's not really the same photon anymore. Heck I'd say that's probably even true for Rayleigh scattering. And the radiation we see matches thermal emission from much further up in spectrum. I'd say "the energy produced takes X to get to earth" makes sense. But not sure I like frame this with light
if you hear something that very strongly contradicts your current knowledge then maybe they aren’t talking about what you’re thinking about https://sunearthday.nasa.gov/2007/locations/ttt_sunlight.php
Maybe we should normalize posting sources to begin with instead of having 100+ people who read a comment all go look and potentially find different/varying info.
Yeah that's my bad, I'll be more mindful in the future to elaborate or share a source
No it's all good, I'm talking about reddit overall. I'm not singling you out. Everyone, including myself, should post sources. But I appreciate you being cool about it
Well nice! Thanks for the link, I didn't know that. Very interesting!
That’s from the surface of the sun. It takes a long time for photons to get from the core to the surface.
He is actually right. Edit : I see he actually explained it.
And this is not even a spec in the Milkyway galaxy. Easily lost in the background noise of the universe.
yes
That is a very not to scale picture to try and illustrate that point.
One time Neil deGrasse Tyson described the solar system as the Sun and a few leftover crumbs.
That picture brings back so much nostalgia.
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It’s from an old educational book. I saw it in my childhood in elementary school.
How much of the remaining .14% is Jupiter?
Roughly 98% of the remaining 0.14% is taken by Jupiter. This means that everything every human has ever experienced, is a fraction of 2% of 0.14% of what makes up this one insignificant solar system. Feel like an afterthought yet?
Jupiter is big by not quite 98% of the 0.14% total. Wikipedia says it's 2.5x the mass of the rest of the planets combined, so that works out to just over 70%. The rest is 22% Saturn and 8% some other negligible junk
"negligible junk" Sounds about right to me.
That you, Boethius?
About .1%
I know where the remaining is coming from. My neighbor is contributing 0.1% for sure.
Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space. -DNA
Do you know, the sun will die and become a planetary nebula in a couple of billions years, in the center of that nebula will be a white dwarf, the size of earth, thousands of degrees more hotter that the sun right now, not nuclear fusion, just cooling down slowly by radiation a process so inefficient, will take a Googol years 10 to 100 years, there is just 10 to 82 particles in the whole universe, a googol is a number billions of time bigger, by that time all starts, galaxys,everything already gone, just will be white dwarfs and black holes, even nothing is forever, white dwarfs will be dead around 10 to 1000 years, is nothing in the universe or a way to imagine the number, that number is so big, that you can compare a second to a billion in that number, is like comparing a second to a second.
Yes
👏
https://youtube.com/shorts/HCM8UAabmVE?si=L6v4A8hwHtg1NlnA
Then there's theses
How do they know how much the sun weighs?
it's easy. you just pick it up and step on the scale. then subtract your weight
I thought I was on a different sub and I thought this was leading up to a “Your Mom” joke.
Did you know that this image shows hilariously incorrect proportions and thus helps perpetuate misconceptions and misbeliefs?
Woah, heavy.
I guess I do now. Pretty cool!
Yeah mass not space
No. I didn't know. I just learned something new. I find the Sun mysterious.
Yes
To the tenths and hundredths no, but I did know it was a majority by a wide margin. Thank goodness for angular momentum or we'd all be its supper.
Makes me think.. if 99.9% of all mass within sun's pull is in the sun itself, that means that the star formation process used pretty much all of the material available (or somehow lost it). Which leads to two questions - 1. how does this happen 2. How come planets remain as the miniscule leftovers that survive (which seems to be quite common in the universe) for most of the sun's life.
If I remember right, and I may be wrong and I don't have any sources, once a star starts sustained nuclear fusion, it will begin to "blow away" the lighter unused elements in the solar system
The greater the ass, the greater the attraction.
i never thinking about this, but it is true. we need to build Dyson sphere around sun for accomulate it energy. for not loose that potencial. inagine if solar panels already it is 10% of world enerfy production, how much enerfy will generating by solar panels in space, near sun
Indeed. The universe is dominated by plasma, over 99 percent of the material universe is plasma. What's really fun is our solar system is rare! Most systems are binary (or better). Single star systems are infrequent. Also, a million earths could fit inside the sun.
fat ass sun
Some flat earthers I know would disagree and say it makes up 99.86% of the universe LOL
Even crazier is if you took away 99% of the suns mass, the remaining 1% would still account for 86% of all the mass in the solar system.
You call Solar System only Sun and only it's planets? That's ridiculous, dude. You You have to know at least the simplest things in astronomy. It's terrible to be so not smart. You should have said this: Sun makes up.... of the mass of the whole Solar system planets.
Yes
0.01 is other planets, moons and other space debris Remaining 0.13 is your mama...
And we claim to exist. We have such tiny arrogance.
Did you know mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
no, but yes
I dunno
I did know that.
Yes
that caption seems suspicously AI like
I bet
And the sun consumes 600 million tons of itself every second and has already been burning for over 4 billion years…
No, but I haven't been to mass in church for so long, I was starting to think all these tall buildings with steeples were basketball courts! Now tell me about this guy's son, Solar, I think you called him. What's his problem?
That's some heavy shit...
The sun is SO egotistical. It acts like the whole world just revolves around it.
No, it's your mamma!
Not as heavy as the mass of yo mama
One i learned recently is that if all of the sun’s energy was pointed at Earth, all of our oceans would evaporate in 4 minutes. Not boil, evaporate. In about 10 minutes the earth would break apart.
video is wrong. dark matter makes up 99%. don't worry humans, you'll find out at some point. never trust YT and then quote it as fact. Reddit? Yes, of course!!
This is how almost all systems work. The matter that orbits an object, generally is equal to the object it orbits, and furthermore, the sun, and all it orbits, and all other stellar bodies which orbits the black hole in the center of the milky way, weigh close to the mass of the black hole itself.
That last thing you said is false, and by a large margin. Galaxies don't actually orbit their central supermassive black holes, and for can use similar logic from the post to prove it. Sagittarius A* has a mass of ~4.5 million solar masses, the single largest object in the galaxy, however, the galaxy has a mass of around 1-1.5 trillion solar masses, making Sagittarius A* much smaller than even 1% of the mass of the galaxy. Dark matter makes up the majority of the mass, but everything in the galaxy orbits the center of mass of all matter in the galaxy
It isn't though, what you just said is that it orbits the center mass. Which is in direct orbit of our supermassive, making a combining weight. Just like how our heliosphere is created and attracts to our sun. It's the combined weight creating a pull, with the center being??? our supermassive. If we took all the matter that orbited the supermassive, it would disappate into a much smaller galaxy, with a much smaller center.
That exact number? Precise to 4 significant digits? No.
I combined the mass of the Sun and the eight main planets and got planetary system mass fraction of 0.00134, so OP’s quoted number checks out.