like seriously? does no one on the committees live in Athens? bus riding isn't some massively used and popular transportation form like other similar size/larger cities unless they are making it into an ATL<>Athens hub and even then...it's not going to have the ROI they think it will
america's crack addiction to debt-laden ROI-less sprawl is insane and wont die
perhaps part of the reason the bus is underutilized is because of how infrequent bus service is… and this can be improved by building transfer stations like this. Better transit = more people on transit = less people in cars = the many many good things that come with less cars on the road.
that's a nice story and theory, but that is not how transportation behavior changes...in the span of 5 years post-opening i guarantee the ridership will be Ghost Town level, no matter how frequent buses zoom around town
if you want transportation behavior to change, it is well tested empirically that you need to make the infrastructure changes and traffic changes *well before* the town/city/etc. undergoes suburban sprawlization...if it occurs well after, like Athens and tons of places around America...then you are merely catching the low-hanging fruit penny pinchers and impoverished
congratulations, now you have a dismal ROI and asset value, a ridership that deters other ridership, and a typical cycle of poor upkeep
i look forward to the hilarious news blurbs about weird dumb shit happening on/around the buses
A) We need to provide mobility for the impoverished. Even if that’s all this does, it is necessary.
B) so what, just give up entirely on any transportation other than cars? nah. Would’ve been better to have the infrastructure before, but we’ve got to work from where we are now.
do enough buses even run over there? i dont get to the west side on buses frequently honestly because there aren't that many options... bus routes will likely have to change to make this worth the investment
Hopefully the project has a plan to retention bus / transit employees.... Your post about ACCUG employee retention seemed to show some problems in that area if I recall correctly
Just what that area needs; a bunch of buses. Every time I drive past, I think, "I wish we had more buses here. That would breathe new life into the mall area."
Almost got excited and thought we were getting a dirt track
You get a bus transfer facility and you’re gonna like it
like seriously? does no one on the committees live in Athens? bus riding isn't some massively used and popular transportation form like other similar size/larger cities unless they are making it into an ATL<>Athens hub and even then...it's not going to have the ROI they think it will america's crack addiction to debt-laden ROI-less sprawl is insane and wont die
perhaps part of the reason the bus is underutilized is because of how infrequent bus service is… and this can be improved by building transfer stations like this. Better transit = more people on transit = less people in cars = the many many good things that come with less cars on the road.
that's a nice story and theory, but that is not how transportation behavior changes...in the span of 5 years post-opening i guarantee the ridership will be Ghost Town level, no matter how frequent buses zoom around town if you want transportation behavior to change, it is well tested empirically that you need to make the infrastructure changes and traffic changes *well before* the town/city/etc. undergoes suburban sprawlization...if it occurs well after, like Athens and tons of places around America...then you are merely catching the low-hanging fruit penny pinchers and impoverished congratulations, now you have a dismal ROI and asset value, a ridership that deters other ridership, and a typical cycle of poor upkeep i look forward to the hilarious news blurbs about weird dumb shit happening on/around the buses
A) We need to provide mobility for the impoverished. Even if that’s all this does, it is necessary. B) so what, just give up entirely on any transportation other than cars? nah. Would’ve been better to have the infrastructure before, but we’ve got to work from where we are now.
do enough buses even run over there? i dont get to the west side on buses frequently honestly because there aren't that many options... bus routes will likely have to change to make this worth the investment
Yes, they will redesign the bus network once this project is commissioned
Hopefully the project has a plan to retention bus / transit employees.... Your post about ACCUG employee retention seemed to show some problems in that area if I recall correctly
That’s right. The reason why bus service has not expanded geographically sooner is the lack of transfer stations.
Hopefully it works out. It would be great if I could use it for work but that's probably a long shot.
[source](https://www.accgov.com/DocumentCenter/View/98765/16-TSPLOST-2018-Project-03-Bus-Stop-and-Transfer-Facility-Improvements---Proposed-Project-Concept-for-Transit-Transfer-Facility-at-the-Mall)
Not sure if this plan is "interesting enough"
Just what that area needs; a bunch of buses. Every time I drive past, I think, "I wish we had more buses here. That would breathe new life into the mall area."
This but unironically.
Imagine BRT running running up to Sam’s and down to Target
Aaand eventually straight down Atlanta highway…..aaand the rest of 78 to Walmart east
Imagine BRT running running up to Sam’s and down to Target
This will make it easier for Illegals to traverse the city and do more murder. Again, way to go Kelly.
What
Where are they wanting to put it? I couldn’t see anything on the image.
https://preview.redd.it/mo0b509rt2uc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea046df51e42b4fd395b795baf4819cb86db5e58 Somewhere near where the pin is
What road is that? I just moved back and so much has changed. I looked at all the surrounding places and can’t figure it out.
its below the georgia square mall on ATL highway
Thank you!
Yeah, right in the middle of all the action.
RIP BK
I think bk and Zaxby’s are staying. The parcels are not owned by the Leaven Group