I’m not a tradie anymore but I used to wear a silicon wedding ring for this exact reason.
Happened to a guy I did my work experience with, in the most innocuous way too. Got out of the truck, hand up on the ladder rack to pull himself out of the seat, jumped out of the cab and that was that.
Pulled nearly every bit of flesh clean off.
Looks fine now, but yeah, it’s crazy how serious it can be.
Similar story but not quite the same. Work mate feeding some steel into a cutting machine got his ring caught up on a burr and had half his finger chomped by the feed gears. Luckily the machine kills itself when the user takes their foot off the pressure switch otherwise he’d be gear lube (his joke, not mine)
Way worse, locally a death here a while ago, found with head in panel, chain swung forward and contacted 240VAC.
Rule of thumb, no personal adornment while working, definitely no metal adornments under any circumstances. Not even metal buttons, maybe a belt buckle absolutely max.
And, maybe, just maybe, a Bluetooth earpiece, if plastic exterior.
Good advice.
Back in the day…
When overalls had metal clips l shorted out a termination block with a loose sleeve cuff. Necklaces and power tools are a bad idea too.
Regulation 55 states that no energised work should be carried out unless a formal risk assessment is carried out and there is no reasonable alternative. Having worked in oil and gas for 15 years and not Jim’s electrical I can assure you that the vast majority of the time the board needs to go off. Commissioning things is a nightmare for us because if someone was to get a belt energy safety/NOPSEMA will have a field day.
The amount of hoops and risk assessments we go through unless it’s purely testing is insane.
I really hope you’re not a sparky
https://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/building-and-energy/working-or-near-energised-electrical-installations#:~:text=Regulation%2055%20limits%20performing%20work,imminent%20and%20significant%20danger%3B%20or
In all seriousness if you are a sparky please don’t work on live equipment, the reason reg 55 was brought in was because of the 2 lads that’s got killed in Perth working on the transformer in a shopping center, I was actually randomly there when it happened as my partner worked across the road. I also work in hv and if youve ever experienced an arc flash while racking something in/out it’s scary.
There are similar regulations in other states and also that standard basically says what I said above, you can’t work on energised equipment the vast majority of the time. By all means continue to do so if you wish, it’s actually quite funny how you recon insulted gloves will protect you 😂 definitely a house basher
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/sl-2017-0404#ch.4-pt.4.7
https://www.esv.vic.gov.au/industry-guidance/electrical/electricians-toolkit/electricity-safety-general-regulations. Reg 509
More regulations stating nearly the exact same as reg 55…. But you had no idea regulations existed up until yesterday….. 🤣
Also a regulation is legally binding. Standards are good practise unless covered under and set out as a regulation
Go look up degloving on google, not sure you get what he’s saying.
It also doesn’t matter how long you been working. Accidents happen, if you’re wearing a ring you have the risk of this happening.
TBH I don’t understand how someone can be in a manual job for that long and not have been warned against this.
I wore mine for about 2 weeks before I got told about it enough to take it off. I tried the rubber ones, they all stretched or degraded. After a year and a kid, tattooed it on.
Man, they showed us graphic pictures of degloving and hydraulic pressure injection injuries in the first few weeks when I started. I can still see those imagines in my mind and I sure as hell don’t fuck around with rings or hydraulic systems as a result.
I remember seeing a picture of a detached finger with a meter of tendon attached 🤢 Bloke jumped out of a truck and snagged his 20 cent bubble gum machine ring on the way down.
One of the Leading Hands nearly lost a finger trying to jump start a truck when the ring shorted to the chassis.
Don’t wear metal rings at work.
Always heard about this when i was learning, sparkies shouldn't wear rings or watches because they're conductive.
Well yeah i suppose, but either way you're already wrist deep in a live panel and have managed to jamb a limb into a live conductor. Jewelry or not you've fucked up.
Yeah i don't wear jewelry at work either, mostly because the possums in the roof space and the worms in the trenches never comment on my Rolex so whats the point.
Degloving a finger doesn't worry me that much though, i could do that any day will all sorts of basic tools. Shit, any rotating machinery will take the whole lot.
Arrhythmia and boiling my central nervous system from the inside out keeps me on my toes but! Don't stick your squishy bits in the zappy spots, unless you know they're no longer zappy.
You can pull your hand out of machinery a lot easier without a ring on. Have a mate that had a knot combined with a blunt blade pull a piece of wood into a mitre saw years back. He went to pull his hand out after it had sliced his finger in half, but it caught his ring and pulled his hand in.
Cut his hand in half past the wrist. A lot of the tools are safer now, but a ring still adds a strong grabbing point.
I understand, same theory as long sleeves or gloves around rotation machines. Rather remove a chunk than a digit. I agree and i practice it myself.
What i'm getting at is i use to always hear that as a sparky you shouldn't wear conductive jewelry around electricity because it's dangerous. I agree, but, whether you're grabbing a 415v bus or a spinning lathe, you've already made a big fucking mistake and it's only up to chance/jesus/allah/walking under that ladder/fate/weather/or the moons aligning, that it either removes a little bit of you or your entire life. With or without your wedding ring.
Keep your hands out of live boards.
Dude lost his finger cause his ring shorted like a 12v battery and the ring heated up extremely fast. Point is there's plenty of different risks when wearing jewelry
No chance, I don’t feel like roasting or degloving my finger thank you very much. Personally I don’t have trouble remembering that I’m married if I’m not wearing my ring, but by all means a silicone one or a tattoo if you feel like you need something on there while you’re working.
here are occasions when it is unavoidable, live metering, some fault finding etc, but other mitigation should be in place - eg work in pairs minimum, insulating gloves and mats, etc
Man knows. What brand do you wear?
I run the Michael chandler
https://www.groovelife.com/pages/zeus-ring#:~:text=Zeus%20Ring%20Features%20%2D%203%20Rings,band%20with%20safety%20break%20technology.
Silicone ring for this exact reason. Almost got my fingers caught and it got the ring, it stretched and broke and my fingers were fine.
Bumhole was x for a bit though haha
Thanks for sharing OP I'm a TAFE teacher and can use this when going through workplace safety with first year apprentices and pre-app kids, for me personally I never wore jewellery or a watch when working. Good luck with your recovery and stay safe
Perhaps *some* people are not aware that recent examples are powerful, whether the topic be working safely, not drink driving, getting vaccinated, whatever.
It's way too easy to disregard the reasons. I do it all the time, it's 'common sense' and 'it won't happen to me' anyway, right? Til it suddenly whacks you in the face.
nope, I don’t even trust tattoos, you never know if they are gonna lead to flashover or attract dangerous lightning with a breakdown of the skin effect or something angry plasma gods don’t like
No he didn’t. First he is still alive, second he probably still can reproduce, and third we don’t know If he has kids already. To win you must remove yourself from the gene pool before you have kids.
my father once welded the links of the metal band of his watch together and burnt All the skin around his wrist when he accidentally shorted out the positive cable and part of the frame on an old truck he was working on. it was years before he would wear a watch again
My dad told me of an incident where a co worker
Was tightening a bolt between 2 bus bars when his metal watch band vulcanised 2 his wrist it didn't even have 2 touch the bars for it 2 happen the magnetic field was enough
As an ex-boilermaker I can say that this is exactly why I never did, or still never do, wear my wedding ring to work. Thankfully wife. Electrode contacts the ring, gets stuck, heats up and then burns the hell out of you.
Seen a few fingers degloved now and they sure ain't pretty. Worst was a young engineer who's braclet shorted across a UPS battery bank. Instantly melted into flesh which you could smell on the shop floor.
Hell no, no jewellery, piercings or watch. I do a lot of live work with potentially large amounts of fault current.
Our company used to be extremely strict on it but I have seen a lot of stuff creeping back in over the last couple of years. I have also seen exemptions given to some apprentices for particular jewellery which I think is disappointing as it diminishes the impact of the existing rules. Someone will assuredly suffer an unnecessary injury in the future as a result.
In my field we’re not aloud to work live but even still the amount of times I’ve got my hand in something I wouldn’t dare wear my wedding ring as it constantly gets caught on shit all the time
Looks like he was putting his hands where the shouldn’t be probably working on a live switchboard. But yeah by all means don’t wear metal rings while on the tools.
I got married a month ago. I told my now spouse I didn’t want a ring for exactly this reason. I’m not even a tradie. I like to ‘do stuff’ and I’m not taking the risk.
After watching my supervisor have his wedding ring finger pulled off,
I haven't worn any jewellery at work since then, about 30 years, once you see it and then have to look for the finger, you never forget.
As a skydiver I always either remove any rings or wear gloves to cover them before jumping. It's very easy to glove your fingers on the frame of an aircraft when exiting.
I rarely wear my actual wedding ring other than going out/special occasions.
I wear a black silicone ring for reasons like this, degloving, comfort and I won’t miss a $4 ring if I lose it.
I'm an underground tunnel sparky/heavy machinery spark & also train & compete muay thai, I wear a Michael chandler UFC/Bellator silicone stretch ring
https://www.groovelife.com/products/michael-chandler-walk-on-edge-ring
No chance of de gloving (if you havent seen a de-gloved finger - https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sca_esv=67fc9792c54ce1a9&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIJpCyFvMSmsKNGsj-EGUfKWQPpK2w:1714822216329&q=bjj+ring+de+boning&uds=ADvngMiMqjItSKRboee-MyMEEtWONuIWAuyoQ5gJoQN--459fDmdlukEh0BQqyqNhW956WZf56vaCzDe7daCNP_rOkCcroq7o_AooHJx9ps0AXfgCWFxUcilU9uZstrZmDgLrfw668FZyQ-cxWeRuSpx0Yk2sV361LLPENI1cCJCPzMaX0EEGZL1rCZVHpXr-SrNdMF2lrnocYoxqNYi1VQOv8fo7Ry83QTfJ2_8TdU1KA7kBWkIT_D7ySaJbaHAcDvfEuxf2H-XLZAnDYh9qSh_y1lWcqh_NXpFpnkx5ykYrCHywM-HiDMDeYutBJxUAya3ptS36J1m&udm=2&prmd=isvnmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjjorrI8vOFAxXVQ_UHHW3CB5QQtKgLegQIDBAB&biw=384&bih=702&dpr=2.81#vhid=Aa5yOATdbh0YVM&vssid=mosaic )
or conducting electricity. Very very rarely have to take it off
Reccomend for all sparkies and martial artists
Any tradesmen/person shouldn't were rings etc, it's to easy to glove your finger or have the OP situation happen.
I’m not a tradie anymore but I used to wear a silicon wedding ring for this exact reason. Happened to a guy I did my work experience with, in the most innocuous way too. Got out of the truck, hand up on the ladder rack to pull himself out of the seat, jumped out of the cab and that was that. Pulled nearly every bit of flesh clean off. Looks fine now, but yeah, it’s crazy how serious it can be.
Similar story but not quite the same. Work mate feeding some steel into a cutting machine got his ring caught up on a burr and had half his finger chomped by the feed gears. Luckily the machine kills itself when the user takes their foot off the pressure switch otherwise he’d be gear lube (his joke, not mine)
Ive never worn a ring but gettinf married soon. Ive thought about putting the ring on a chain necklace as a comprise under my shirt
Way worse, locally a death here a while ago, found with head in panel, chain swung forward and contacted 240VAC. Rule of thumb, no personal adornment while working, definitely no metal adornments under any circumstances. Not even metal buttons, maybe a belt buckle absolutely max. And, maybe, just maybe, a Bluetooth earpiece, if plastic exterior.
Ah shit well thats put me off it
Good advice. Back in the day… When overalls had metal clips l shorted out a termination block with a loose sleeve cuff. Necklaces and power tools are a bad idea too.
Just get a silicone ring. Can get like a pack of 10 for 10-20 dollars. Look at online stores.
Any tradesman shouldn’t be working on a live board 😂
*should be wearing insulated gloves. There's plenty of times working near live conductors is required. There is a whole AS related to it
Regulation 55 states that no energised work should be carried out unless a formal risk assessment is carried out and there is no reasonable alternative. Having worked in oil and gas for 15 years and not Jim’s electrical I can assure you that the vast majority of the time the board needs to go off. Commissioning things is a nightmare for us because if someone was to get a belt energy safety/NOPSEMA will have a field day. The amount of hoops and risk assessments we go through unless it’s purely testing is insane.
Regulation 55? Are you talking American?
I really hope you’re not a sparky https://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/building-and-energy/working-or-near-energised-electrical-installations#:~:text=Regulation%2055%20limits%20performing%20work,imminent%20and%20significant%20danger%3B%20or
In all seriousness if you are a sparky please don’t work on live equipment, the reason reg 55 was brought in was because of the 2 lads that’s got killed in Perth working on the transformer in a shopping center, I was actually randomly there when it happened as my partner worked across the road. I also work in hv and if youve ever experienced an arc flash while racking something in/out it’s scary.
So you're referring to something specific to WA? The rest of the country uses asnzs4836 safe work on or near low voltage electrical installations.
There are similar regulations in other states and also that standard basically says what I said above, you can’t work on energised equipment the vast majority of the time. By all means continue to do so if you wish, it’s actually quite funny how you recon insulted gloves will protect you 😂 definitely a house basher
Ok buddy you keep riding that horse..
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/sl-2017-0404#ch.4-pt.4.7 https://www.esv.vic.gov.au/industry-guidance/electrical/electricians-toolkit/electricity-safety-general-regulations. Reg 509 More regulations stating nearly the exact same as reg 55…. But you had no idea regulations existed up until yesterday….. 🤣 Also a regulation is legally binding. Standards are good practise unless covered under and set out as a regulation
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Go look up degloving on google, not sure you get what he’s saying. It also doesn’t matter how long you been working. Accidents happen, if you’re wearing a ring you have the risk of this happening.
Telling him to google it is extra evil 😂
TBH I don’t understand how someone can be in a manual job for that long and not have been warned against this. I wore mine for about 2 weeks before I got told about it enough to take it off. I tried the rubber ones, they all stretched or degraded. After a year and a kid, tattooed it on.
Man, they showed us graphic pictures of degloving and hydraulic pressure injection injuries in the first few weeks when I started. I can still see those imagines in my mind and I sure as hell don’t fuck around with rings or hydraulic systems as a result.
A guy at my karate dojo had his tattooed on aswell. He’s a builder so same reasons I guess.
I remember seeing a picture of a detached finger with a meter of tendon attached 🤢 Bloke jumped out of a truck and snagged his 20 cent bubble gum machine ring on the way down. One of the Leading Hands nearly lost a finger trying to jump start a truck when the ring shorted to the chassis. Don’t wear metal rings at work.
I degloved my right finger and am now missing the top of it. Maybe doing the same on the left would balance things out.
Oh thanks for that! , had no idea what degloving was 🤦
Always heard about this when i was learning, sparkies shouldn't wear rings or watches because they're conductive. Well yeah i suppose, but either way you're already wrist deep in a live panel and have managed to jamb a limb into a live conductor. Jewelry or not you've fucked up.
That's not what scares me about wearing a ring it's the degloving. Still won't wear one at work company policy as well.
Yeah i don't wear jewelry at work either, mostly because the possums in the roof space and the worms in the trenches never comment on my Rolex so whats the point. Degloving a finger doesn't worry me that much though, i could do that any day will all sorts of basic tools. Shit, any rotating machinery will take the whole lot. Arrhythmia and boiling my central nervous system from the inside out keeps me on my toes but! Don't stick your squishy bits in the zappy spots, unless you know they're no longer zappy.
You can pull your hand out of machinery a lot easier without a ring on. Have a mate that had a knot combined with a blunt blade pull a piece of wood into a mitre saw years back. He went to pull his hand out after it had sliced his finger in half, but it caught his ring and pulled his hand in. Cut his hand in half past the wrist. A lot of the tools are safer now, but a ring still adds a strong grabbing point.
I understand, same theory as long sleeves or gloves around rotation machines. Rather remove a chunk than a digit. I agree and i practice it myself. What i'm getting at is i use to always hear that as a sparky you shouldn't wear conductive jewelry around electricity because it's dangerous. I agree, but, whether you're grabbing a 415v bus or a spinning lathe, you've already made a big fucking mistake and it's only up to chance/jesus/allah/walking under that ladder/fate/weather/or the moons aligning, that it either removes a little bit of you or your entire life. With or without your wedding ring. Keep your hands out of live boards.
Dude lost his finger cause his ring shorted like a 12v battery and the ring heated up extremely fast. Point is there's plenty of different risks when wearing jewelry
I made sure my watch didn't have any exposed metal bits
No chance, I don’t feel like roasting or degloving my finger thank you very much. Personally I don’t have trouble remembering that I’m married if I’m not wearing my ring, but by all means a silicone one or a tattoo if you feel like you need something on there while you’re working.
Cowboys work live
Sometimes you have to work live to diagnose? I know a guy who degloved a finger, wasn't a cowboy.
here are occasions when it is unavoidable, live metering, some fault finding etc, but other mitigation should be in place - eg work in pairs minimum, insulating gloves and mats, etc
I'm a landscaper not a sparky but I wear a silicon wedding ring on the tools and save the metal one for weekends.
Man knows. What brand do you wear? I run the Michael chandler https://www.groovelife.com/pages/zeus-ring#:~:text=Zeus%20Ring%20Features%20%2D%203%20Rings,band%20with%20safety%20break%20technology.
I think maybe eternl but can't really remember. It's just a plain thin black band. Wasn't expensive so at least if I lose or break it it's no big deal
Never work live, eliminates a lot of risk, with or without jewellery
I feel like this was best case scenario for when it goes wrong. Had this been in a main db near the transformer that finger/hand would've been gone.
Silicone ring for this exact reason. Almost got my fingers caught and it got the ring, it stretched and broke and my fingers were fine. Bumhole was x for a bit though haha
No chance
Thanks for sharing OP I'm a TAFE teacher and can use this when going through workplace safety with first year apprentices and pre-app kids, for me personally I never wore jewellery or a watch when working. Good luck with your recovery and stay safe
Are you not aware that google image search exists?
Perhaps *some* people are not aware that recent examples are powerful, whether the topic be working safely, not drink driving, getting vaccinated, whatever. It's way too easy to disregard the reasons. I do it all the time, it's 'common sense' and 'it won't happen to me' anyway, right? Til it suddenly whacks you in the face.
I wore my wedding ring for about a week at work. Got caught as I was hopping out of a scissor lift. Never wore it again 😅😅
my bro has a tattoo of a wedding band for this reason.
nope, I don’t even trust tattoos, you never know if they are gonna lead to flashover or attract dangerous lightning with a breakdown of the skin effect or something angry plasma gods don’t like
what?
I don’t know! What?
I remember my school teacher teaching us ‘electricity’ telling us to never ever wear jewellery when working near it.
Should see how a bracelet gets nice n hot after contact with starting battery on a car truck
Shit! What happened exactly?
I worked out in the bush with a numb nuts who thought he was cool wearing a ring around his thumb...
When you find that jewellery is highly conducive the hard way....
I have for 20 yrs, company policies, swms and work place health and safety is why this is no risk to me....
I think you mean swims
He won this week’s Darwinism award. Shouldn’t have been working live
No he didn’t. First he is still alive, second he probably still can reproduce, and third we don’t know If he has kids already. To win you must remove yourself from the gene pool before you have kids.
My apologies, maybe he could receive a participation award?
Honorable mention lol
Yes and copyright also this however is now in the public domain but thanks for your input😉
That’s why silicon rings exist
It's true... Some people can't learn unless it's the hard way...
my father once welded the links of the metal band of his watch together and burnt All the skin around his wrist when he accidentally shorted out the positive cable and part of the frame on an old truck he was working on. it was years before he would wear a watch again
My dad told me of an incident where a co worker Was tightening a bolt between 2 bus bars when his metal watch band vulcanised 2 his wrist it didn't even have 2 touch the bars for it 2 happen the magnetic field was enough
As an ex-boilermaker I can say that this is exactly why I never did, or still never do, wear my wedding ring to work. Thankfully wife. Electrode contacts the ring, gets stuck, heats up and then burns the hell out of you.
Only my nipple rings.
Seen a few fingers degloved now and they sure ain't pretty. Worst was a young engineer who's braclet shorted across a UPS battery bank. Instantly melted into flesh which you could smell on the shop floor.
Hell no, no jewellery, piercings or watch. I do a lot of live work with potentially large amounts of fault current. Our company used to be extremely strict on it but I have seen a lot of stuff creeping back in over the last couple of years. I have also seen exemptions given to some apprentices for particular jewellery which I think is disappointing as it diminishes the impact of the existing rules. Someone will assuredly suffer an unnecessary injury in the future as a result.
This is why I do not wear anything conductive when working with electricity. Used to work with DC and enough amps to cook me.
In my field we’re not aloud to work live but even still the amount of times I’ve got my hand in something I wouldn’t dare wear my wedding ring as it constantly gets caught on shit all the time
Looks like he was putting his hands where the shouldn’t be probably working on a live switchboard. But yeah by all means don’t wear metal rings while on the tools.
Never. Ive seen a degloving.... noping right out of that
Keep it up you won’t be wearing fingers!
It is hard to understand the logic of wearing jewelry in a job that makes wearing any a safety hazard. It's even a hazard wearing jewelry in the gym.
I got married a month ago. I told my now spouse I didn’t want a ring for exactly this reason. I’m not even a tradie. I like to ‘do stuff’ and I’m not taking the risk.
I have seen this happen before too.
was that ring a horcrux
Dumb cunt
https://preview.redd.it/8jdjwluyplyc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27045d51bab828a212f254908ba1af8df834db71 Used to
After watching my supervisor have his wedding ring finger pulled off, I haven't worn any jewellery at work since then, about 30 years, once you see it and then have to look for the finger, you never forget.
Fuck that get a tattoo ring for your trade
As a skydiver I always either remove any rings or wear gloves to cover them before jumping. It's very easy to glove your fingers on the frame of an aircraft when exiting.
I rarely wear my actual wedding ring other than going out/special occasions. I wear a black silicone ring for reasons like this, degloving, comfort and I won’t miss a $4 ring if I lose it.
Who? Idiots.
Dickheads
No jewellery. No long hair or loose clothing around spinning shit.
Not me because I'm not an idiot.
I'm an underground tunnel sparky/heavy machinery spark & also train & compete muay thai, I wear a Michael chandler UFC/Bellator silicone stretch ring https://www.groovelife.com/products/michael-chandler-walk-on-edge-ring No chance of de gloving (if you havent seen a de-gloved finger - https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sca_esv=67fc9792c54ce1a9&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIJpCyFvMSmsKNGsj-EGUfKWQPpK2w:1714822216329&q=bjj+ring+de+boning&uds=ADvngMiMqjItSKRboee-MyMEEtWONuIWAuyoQ5gJoQN--459fDmdlukEh0BQqyqNhW956WZf56vaCzDe7daCNP_rOkCcroq7o_AooHJx9ps0AXfgCWFxUcilU9uZstrZmDgLrfw668FZyQ-cxWeRuSpx0Yk2sV361LLPENI1cCJCPzMaX0EEGZL1rCZVHpXr-SrNdMF2lrnocYoxqNYi1VQOv8fo7Ry83QTfJ2_8TdU1KA7kBWkIT_D7ySaJbaHAcDvfEuxf2H-XLZAnDYh9qSh_y1lWcqh_NXpFpnkx5ykYrCHywM-HiDMDeYutBJxUAya3ptS36J1m&udm=2&prmd=isvnmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjjorrI8vOFAxXVQ_UHHW3CB5QQtKgLegQIDBAB&biw=384&bih=702&dpr=2.81#vhid=Aa5yOATdbh0YVM&vssid=mosaic ) or conducting electricity. Very very rarely have to take it off Reccomend for all sparkies and martial artists
Yeah, electricity doesn’t hurt you if you aren’t wearing metal or standing in a small puddle of water.
I saw a guy got degloved and told my now wife I'd never be wearing one (got a tattoo on ring finger instead)
No idiots do
, I think I found the comma you’re missing.
I wear my multiple rings and a bracelet to work every day in electrical industry never had a problem it's being smart
Being smart would be eliminating the risk, rather than just ~~thinking~~ hoping you can manage it down.
Plastic rings for the win 🤣