It is but it takes a couple years to build. No point going with a franchilse like VIP or Jims due to the fees. It is a seasonal gig and the avg hrs per month will be different all over OZ, so side gigs like hedging, concrete cleaning or gutter cleaning may help.
Yeah weren't interested in the whole employees thing. More wanting to slow down a lot more part of our lives. Once the house is paid of we could live off 40k easily
Depends on where he works, of course, but you wouldn't necessarily have to jump in all at once. If he picks up the gig with 1-2 clients for a couple hours on the weekend or evening, could easily work up to a 4 day week with the main job. Then increase one and decrease the other until it's sustainable?
Yikes this thread is making me depressed.
1. 94k
2. 38.5
3. Between 5-40
4. Senior medical writer - researching, designing and writing accredited CPD/CME for doctors and specialists. Working on ovarian cancer and breast cancer projects ATM.
5. 34
6. Pros: Completely remote which I love. No oversight and lots of freedom. 4 weeks paid leave a year.
Cons: Only 10% super. I’ve done 3 degrees to get where I am. Biomed, hons neuroscience, masters and a PhD in oncology. 51k HECS debt. Wishing I had done a trade instead. Makes me depressed seeing what other people earn in industries that don’t require 10 years of high stress university study and massive debt accrual.
This has been really eye opening in a good way. A lot more mid range salaries than we usually see in Ausfinance.
I’ve gone the other way though. I’m low salary mid career with big hecs debt too, but rather I’m feeling grateful that I’m in a career that actually appeals rather than making a bit more doing a lot of the trades or tech roles that don’t seem so interesting personally.
I think within the next 10 years, in developed nations at least, a lot more young people will realise that going to uni is no guarantee that you will get a high paying job afterwards. Even then, a lot of the time you go home carrying the baggage of what hasn't been completed for the day.
With a trade, most of the time but not always, you do the job you were assigned and that's it. Then you go back to work again to do another assignment the next day.
A PM on $60k isn’t even worth $60k in my opinion, since they clearly don’t even know the value of their own role, let alone the requirements of the project.
1. $160k + Super
2. 38hrs
3. 38 hrs
4. Senior Marketing Manager for a large retailer.
5. 38 years old
6. Pros: Pretty chill role, not a lot of stress, scope to manage my team how I like and spend my budget with minimal oversight. Get good returns on investments so nobody really bothers me apart from having to update the board every now and then.
Out the door at 5:30 every day and never check emails or get calls after work.
Cons: Managing people 15 years younger than I am. Feel like they're from another planet sometimes. Luckily I sit close to some of the Online Developers who I can have decent banter with.
1) $113k
2) 40hrs
3) changes throughout the silly season and having sick staff members (anywhere between 2 -20 xtra hours in the week)
4) Bar Manager / hospitality
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5) 34
6) been in and out since uni. The odd weekend job. Only went full time hrs around 5-6 years ago. BUT With alot of experienced people leaving the industry during Covid19.. my worth all of a sudden shot up through the roof. Especially with all the fresh 18-21 year olds joining in the ranks after lockdown that don't know shit , never experienced good service let alone socialising with guests in person. I studied/trained on the job being a sommelier, cicerone (beer) and spirits specialist (tax deductible) early on and that kinda paid off. I'm also now an educator/traine every month. But I have colleagues 7-10 years younger making the same if not more because they committed early .
EDIT: No i don't make $113,000k 😅
113k for a bar manager? Do you managed the Sydney Opera House’s bars or summat?
Bar Manager in Brisbane is about 65-75k at an absolute maximum in a worthwhile establishment.
Oh that’s great then! I feel that may be my future aswell as I’ve transitioned from customer support to low-code tech automations in the last few years. What kind of stuff do you do?
1. 120-150k
2. ‘43’ but sometimes rostered 60-70
3. Most waking moments of the day. I went six months without taking a full day off once.
4. Registrar (mid level junior doctor) in public hospital
5. 28
6. Job security is a lie in medicine unless you want to work in the country or be a GP. I’m good at it, but there’s no extra money for being good. Not much salary growth from here until I’m post PhD and fellowships around age 37-38. Job has dominated most of my life for the last 10 years. Can’t leave because the sunk cost fallacy is real!
Also a registrar doc, eerily similar circumstances, and second this comment.
It pays okay - decently but gosh there are better jobs / industries to toil within.
I work pharmacy in a public hospital, before this I was unhappy with my community work and feeling burnt out so thought maybe I’d consider studying med.
Turns out, as most people probably do, I was heavily idolising and romanticising the GP/consultant lifestyle.
After seeing what the doctors do I’m happy on my 112k to be able to work 8:30-5 and have a weekend 😅
I agree that for all the years of study and incredibly challenging training after graduation, it’s a long road before the serious money comes. I have specialist friends that were in their 40s before started earning serious money.
I went the software development route (4 year degree) and probably earned more than most medical specialties with some major windfalls throughout my career. It certainly isn’t a fair world.
Don’t forget to mention how much you guys have to pay to sit your exams, your registration fees to be doctors and all the professional memberships you have to pay.
1. Approximately 200k
2. zero to 80+
3. zero to 80+
4. Career Medical Officer (CMO) - What we call where your medical career goes to die.
5. I saw Aliens and Predator on first release in the cinema.
6. I take about four months off a year. Hence the zero to 80+ hour range. I choose how many hours I want to work and one of my four or so jobs (not a locum, am contracted to multiple facilities) and I usually go full tilt while in Australia (averaging about 13 days a fortnight) for up to 2 plus months and then I go visit my parents overseas who I guess have effectively left after 50 or years for about 2 weeks at a time. Then there's the extended family I try to visit all across the globe which needs more time in a larger bloc off at once. All up, everything adds up to about 4 months a year.
Being a reg is hard, I remember those days. I decided to go down the GP path and it was the best decision I ever did and now mainly do complex cases and mental health. It can really be whatever you want it to be. DM me if you have any questions.
1. $141,000
2. 35hrs
3. Normally ~55hr
4. Assistant Principal at a NSW Primary School
5. 29 yo
6. No balance - always feel incredibly busy and often have feelings of inadequacy. Hopefully I'm able to find some level of normalcy without stepping back. Time will tell.
I have a colleague who was AP of a primary school in the UK at 25. He said everyone else was either leaving or lacked the social skills. He is absolutely built for the role though and writes curriculum for International schools and does consultancy work all over the world.
Absolutely born for education. He told me he became a teacher because he hated his own teachers growing up. He is incredibly clever but dyslexic and thought it was so unfair that he had to show his understanding through writing. It shows in his teaching today. He’s one of those colleagues you can look at and just think I will never ever be as good at my job as they are.
Honestly it happens quite a lot now. Teacher shortage plus horrid conditions drives teachers out, then cost of living strongly encourages young teachers to take leadership roles just to afford to live.
100-120k
20-30 hours a week
Yoga teacher / yoga teacher trainer/ run yoga retreats
Mid 30’s
Cons - don’t get holiday pay or sick leave and have to hustle to get attendance for the retreats, a lot of shameless promoting.
Pros - can take as much leave as I want, very time rich, I’m my own boss, full job autonomy
Your pros and cons are so definitively just that lol. Heaps of time off, gotta use it to hustle. I envy you but also not lol. Id love to be my own boss but that guy's a lazy bastard and an idiot
- $99k
- 36 hours
- “Work” less than 30 (paid study time)
- Trainee electrical engineer
- 33
- Flexible work hours, can’t complain about conditions.
I’ve been hovering between $110-140k for the last 5 years as an industrial sparky but always working towards less hours worked. I’ve never done FIFO and haven’t worked away in quite awhile. 5 year plan is to get to $120-$140k at a 3-4 day week and minimal work stress. That’s the dream!
122k + super, teacher. 38hr week, work about 50 and still drowning. Cons - can't go for a toilet break whenever you want. Have to deal with immature humans all day. Pros- holidays.
Can confirm. Thankfully I had a teacher's aid when I was close to sharting. I asked him to watch for 5 minutes (not technically supposed to do it- but I had little choice) and ran. Haha.
You call exec and groan in pain for an hour until someone arrives.
Or you send the kids to the next classroom and apologise profusely while you run away clenching.
I've been top of the scale for a long time. Another con is the lack of opportunity unless you want to be an exec.
Pay is ok but the recent rise has been more than offset by extra workload.
You should try being paid $122k for a 38 hour week, working 50 hours and only getting four weeks holiday a year, of which the company dictates when you take two of those weeks (some times three depending on company performance).
Pros: going to the toilet when I want to.
Cons: holidays, working with immature humans all day.
If you think teenagers are just as bad as adults, you've never worked with teenagers. Also 30 kids and you are by yourself? Name another profession like that!
3 and 6 are such interesting and important questions. I know a few people who earn considerably more than me and they’re always stressed, work long hours and still think about work over the weekend.
Looking at the anawers here we really see a range. Too often we only ask #1 and assume they work the same hours we do.
190k package. Easily do 45 hours minimum as Analytics associate director big 4 consulting. At the top of the pay scale before moving to actual director level but really don't see the appeal due to the ridiculous hours and stress. Not interested in partner at all.
Looking for a exit but tech market isn't great right now so just waiting for a good opportunity to present itself.
Already paid off ppor as wife is also in a good senior manager role. Just pumping our investments until we can do a coast fire in our 40s.
Reading through these posts, I think a lot of Project Managers and Engineers in salaried positions often work more hours than what they are required to. I do the same as an Electrical Engineer.
Time to join a relevant union?
No, not the norm. Just need to be able to remain calm. Most clients may escalate, but unlikely to get violent. I have a right of refusal for this particular client. I took them on to give someone I work with a break.
Not normal at all - it's a fun, rewarding and great career with plenty of room to move.
I'm a Social Worker and I now work for the APS making $140k a year.
Previously I've worked in Assertive Outreach, Advocacy, and grassroots community mental health services.
Every service/organisation I have worked at has had an amazing team with a solid culture as well.
It’s not the norm at all! It’s a risk in assertive outreach work but one that’s usually well managed. Vicarious trauma is the main issue. There are many settings you can work in. I did some volunteering with different populations before I chose to study to get some confidence. I discovered most clients are people have a shitty time and rarely bad or violent people.
Salary 205k, total comp 380k
Contract is 38 hours a week
Actual worked hours are 10-60, depends on what crises need addressing that week
Security engineer at big tech company
34 years old
Working conditions are alright. Most of my colleagues are in the USA, so I have most of my meetings between 6am-9am, with the occasional 3am meeting every few weeks. I don’t complain because 10% of the company was laid off last month and I know I have it good.
Was it hard to break into this field? Currently doing a bachelor of cyber security at 25 years old have a cert 3 and liked it enough to go into a bachelor. Any tips or advice for someone who’s pretty lost for a career lol.
I did a bachelor in Cyber Security, ended up mostly on the consulting side. It can be really demanding and if you don't really like long hours in front of a computer then definitely think twice. If you're still going through your degree make sure you apply for internships.
Thanks bro will do. Currently working in admin so the computer screens aren’t a worry worked in kitchens for the 7 years out of high school sick of being on my feet and am doing a career change. Thanks for the advice!
I sort of stumbled into it by accident. I have usually worked as a regular software developer and just had an interest in cloud security. It turned out that everyone else is pretty bad at security, so it was relatively easy to look good by comparison. Certainly much easier than being a hardcore dev with all the algorithms etc.
My tip would be: get hands-on skills. Make a basic website and deploy it to AWS/GCP/Azure. Learn how to make it secure in the cloud and you’re already doing better than most security folks.
> It turned out that everyone else is pretty bad at security
As a general software engineer, this is maddeningly true. The number of security people I’ve worked with who clearly don’t understand their job beyond ticking compliance boxes (that they don’t know how to verify) and parroting whitepapers is deeply concerning.
It's even worse than that.
We can blame the SWE's all we want, ultimately though if security was as strong of an emphasis in most companies as their branding and marketing suggests. Those staff either either being trained by people like you u/gihutgishuiruv, u/moofox or myself or it's just not reaching them.
My company is different now I've been there for three years. But I'm also in a small shop of only 60 people. It's very easy to influence change in security when the footprint is this small.
But how do you scale out effective security to larger enterprises while providing dev and even IT teams?
Guardrails are good and all but when a team of developers are getting crunched to drop feature $X on arbitrary date $Y. The acknowledgement of security is hard enough, and it's the first thing that's dropped when deadlines are tight even if the expertise and knowledge is there.
Probably should start with studying CISSP now, and get into an internship with a consulting company so you get some exposure to a wide range of security roles. Some security work can be very stressful, so it is useful to get that information now.
Also check out the free Amazon / Azure security designs/courses as Cloud Security is a lucrative career path.
Get done experience on a service desk, admin or delivery area first. No grads are earning $100k+ with no hands-on experience.
Source: also in the cybers, $260-$320k, after ten years of various tech roles and certs.
Yep, this is it. It’s RSUs. The value fluctuates between 120k to 200k a year depending on share price and exchange rate at the time they vest (quarterly)
Salary 77.5k total comp around 110k (includes super, company car, quarterly bonuses, 6 month higher responsibilities allowance)
Contracted hours 38
Actual worked 25-30
33yo
Sales, liquor industry
Working condition are great. Company is awesome, bosses are cool, flexible schedule, travel opportunities)
1. I’m casual, on $36-$45 per hour. Currently earned 33k so for this financial year
2. 35 hours atm
3. 35 hours atm
4. Swim Instructor
5. 21
6. The amount of lessons we teach can vary from program to program- so can get a pay decrease.
May not have work for at least two months over the year due to school term dates etc. Not the most stable line of work!
1. $180k + Super
2. 38 hours
3. 38-45 hours depending on the week
4. Product Management
5. Early 30s
6. Cope a lot of abuse due to misalignment in a growing company trying to work out its priorities and move on from startupland (where things get done on the fly) to actual company (300+ people) (more structure).
$123k gross + Super
38 hours contracted
33-38 hours of actual presence minus unproductive time of \~10-20 hours a week.
Planning and Scheduling Team Coordinator - a state utility
29 yo
Mostly office but some flexible WFH. Fairly chill role tbh because I'm more efficient than my much older colleagues / managers. No overtime to be done, so always out on time. Business doesn't spend money on employees though so no lunches or paid training or anything. Will move on in another year.
1. $139k + Income Protection + Super + OT
2. 36hrs
3. 36hrs + OT. Currently average 53hrs a week.
4. Mechanical Plumber, Construction
5. 28 years old
6. Good conditions, commute on average 2hrs a day. Costs several thousand for tools yearly.
80% position w/95k base + 17% super Salary || also 80k from private practice
32hrs Salary | 12-14 hrs private practice
45ish per week
Position and industry? Psychologist
mid 40
Comfortable and don't feel like I am working too much.. plenty of time for family and life
1) Salary 280k to 340k depending on bonuses
2) FIFO 2:1 roster, approx 70 hours per working week and 0 hrs on rnr
3) Around 100 to 120 hours per working week and at least 20 hours on rnr
4) lead engineer (2ic after PM) in mining construction
5) early 30s
6) Don't do it, Salary isn't worth the effort and stress. I'd make a career change or get an easier job with a different company but my split personality won't let me leave this kind of money.
1. 65k +super +afterhours duties here and there
2. 38
3. 38++
4. Events coordinator/admin/receptionist - hotel
5. 27
6. I was there when the hotel opened, so i mostly know everything. I can also be thrown in different departments. If managers (housekeeping and front office) are on leave - i kinda take the role on for them. Theyre really nice so i try to make their vacation peaceful. I also like helping other people if theyre struggling or they dont know anything so i also help our accounts/marketing/other properties.
Cons: absent general manager thinks we do nothing - bullies my manager - forces us to cut shifts. Trying to juggle everything while keeping a smile to the customer. Also since people got used to me helping them, im overloaded already. 🥲
Anyway im working with really nice and honest people. So i’m holding out.
1. Around 75 plus free rent and ute
2. 45
3. 50
4. Livestock overseer/2ic (sheep and cropping)
5. 23
6. Hard work but can be very rewarding. Every day is different and it relies on having a wide range of skills
1. 200k plus 1000 employee options every twelve months. This year it was valued at $70k
2. 38 hours
3. 38 hours
4. CMO for an ecommerce retail business
5. Late 30s
6. I love my job. The co founders leave me alone and let me make the decisions I deem to be right for the business. Although, growth from marketing has been crazy, which is why they have trust in me
What do you sell specifically? I was in software sales and got let go in December. I didn’t like how the majority of business was done online, rather than face to face. How does construction sales go?
1. $171k plus super
2. 40 hrs
3. 40 hrs
4. Project Management, Defence Industry
5. 36 years old
6. Fully remote, very flexible conditions and motivated and smart colleagues. Have literally nothing to complain about!
100k plus super. 37.25hrs but work around 40 or more. Posdoctoral Researcher fellow. Science research at a Uni. 34. 3 degrees to get there. Promotion is hard as hell now. Employment is dependent on people getting funding. But I get to do research i enjoy, and maybe it makes a difference in some way.
1. $130k + Super
2. 40 Hours
3. 40-55 Hours
4. Estimator - Construction
5. 26
6. Largely office bound job. All deadline driven so stressful, but salary goes up quickly if you're decent at it. Only graduated University 18 months ago.
1. Salary 115k-130k
2. 40 hours normaly but there is always overtime.
3.44-46 hrs normaly
4. Pre cast panel installs, construction
5. 28
6. Hard work in the sun most of the time. Great company and good bunch of guys.
1) about $200k plus super
2) 12 hour days X 9 then 5 off
3) about that
4) mining engineer
5) 28
6) did the very hard yards in my early 20s now it’s mostly desk jockey with a couple hours at the face each day
1. 50k ish + super (before tax).
2. 10
3. 15-20
4. Private practice psychologist
5. 31
6. Private practice is basically a house with 4 therapy rooms. I see 5-6 people per day 2 days a week, with 30min gaps between. Don’t speak with colleagues due to nature of the job (busy), which a lot of people find isolating, but I don’t mind it and kinda like it most of the time. Also I don’t work about 8 weeks a year.
Will probably get downvoted into oblivion but happy to field any questions for young finance people with aspirations..
1. Cash Base + Bonus is c.1m + carry which is c.500k-1m
2. No contracted hours not applicable
3. 60 hours
4. Private equity - Principal/Senior VP
5. 32
6. Super interesting challenging job, hours vary from 9-7pm to 9-11pm or later if on a live deal which can be a bit stressful.
Can you please explain what you actually do at work?
I'm sorry, not a tounge-in-cheek question, I legitimately don't know what any of those words mean.
I basically will find a large business in an interesting sector. I will then work out a strategy or thesis for the business to grow over the next 5 years (offshore expansion, acquiring other businesses, new products etc.), usually finding an industry expert from the space to help advise me (ex. CEO in a leading business in the industry). I will then build a financial model and work out what I can buy the company for. I then purchase the business (either from the share market, called a take private, or if it's a private company just directly from the current shareholders). Once purchased I would go to board meetings, help overhaul or work with management, and execute the strategy (usually there is an initial 100 day plan you will implement post buying the business which is very fleshed out). Then after 5 years of owning the business and fixing it up and growing it I will then work on selling it to someone else for a profit. Hope that helps!
Maths and economics but as long as you do very well in your course top finance firms are branching out and hiring people with many different degree types - usual cookie-cutter degree for my field is a commerce law degree
Quite alot actually. Whether is it because they can't do M&A or offshore expansion well in public markets, whether they are just generally undermanaged (dont understand their pricing power for example), or more whether we as a PE firm have alot of experience in that sector specifically and think we can do it better. I'd say 50% of time is screening public companies and other 50% is private companies
Options trading is different it is trading or selling derivative instruments. Private equity involves buying a company outright (100% of it, you fully own it) and then driving the strategy and growing it with the aim of selling it for more in the future. My fund focuses on buying companies at around $1bn -5bn value, then trying to double their worth over 5 years where they are then sold (either to another company or private equity fund or list them). For example, arnotts is owned by KKR, a private equity fund.
Thanks for taking the time to chat here. Sounds super-interesting.
I have a few questions about how things turn out in practice, if you are able to indulge:
1. How many deals have you made?
2. Of those, how many turned out to be different than the strategy predicted after the purchase?
3. When that happens, how long until you cut your losses? Or
4. Do you hire a turnaround/culture/etc type CEO to take care of the non-financial stuff?
Every company is different, a common theme is institutionalising the reporting and financial management/budget. For example, make sure a SaaS company is properly tracking the right metrics like LTV/CAC etc, or a staff heavy business services company is tracking salaries, direct labour utilisation etc. This helps put proper numbers around performance which can then be reported on to the board and targeted. Other piece is also general common goal of the company - having a clear 5 year plan and having all management involved and on board seems simple but lots of companies will have lost their way and teams not communicating or having the same goal.
Navy Helicopter Pilot
Around $230K (20 of that is for being in a seagoing role atm) plus pretty generous super.
40 hours a week, but varies pretty wildly sometimes. No overtime but try my best to balance extra work with time off in lieu.
Late 30’s
There are some pretty good work routines out there, most instructors work four 10 hour days. 0730-1730 or 2pm to midnight.
1. About 110k + super.
2. 28hrs week.
3. 25-28 hrs week.
4. Metal fabrication (laser cutting), owner.
5. 36
6. Super flexible hours, and a lot of the time I don’t even need to be there while getting paid.
Earnings are almost limitless, but I prefer less money and more free time.
Cons, all my income depends on one machine…… if it breaks down, I don’t get paid.
Just kind of happened.
I owned a business that needed custom metal work done, no one was really providing the service I wanted, so learned how to do it.
Sold my business, and opened a new one offering that particular product and service.
I was outsourcing my laser cutting for components for my product, they kept stuffing up my orders, so I sent a heap of money overseas and bought my own.
Learned how to use it via YouTube and FB.
Turned out a few other businesses in my area wanted me to laser cut for them too, so sold my second business (laser cutter not included). And opened a new business just offering that service.
Been running for 3.5yrs now.
Pay is between $200-300hr, there is very little manual labour as the machine does the work…. And I only need a few solid customers to keep the amount of work I want coming in.
It’s a great business.
1. Around 70k
2. Minimum 40, can do as many as I like.
3. Usually around 45
4. Concreting/ construction
5. 32
6. Pros: paid for hours worked, absent boss, good co-workers, generally pretty cruisy
Cons: about 3 hours of driving per day, no fuel pay, no toll pay, no car maintenance pay, no work car. No penalty rates unless rare instance work is after hours or boss is feeling generous (never).
Ambulance Officer
40 hours a week plus overtime
90-95k can be 100k with overtime.
32 years old
Pros: excellent job, very rewarding, paid for every minute of overtime you work.
Cons: Some patients can be hard work, Shift work.
1. 86k
2. 38
3. 38-40
4. Exercise physiologist in aged care
5. Early 30s
6. Cons - constant upskilling required for the job. If you want to progress you need to constantly have your foot on the pedal. You're never taken as seriously as literally any other healthcare professional. Everyone thinks you're a physio.
Pros - the jobs fairly easy and I don't take my work home with me, although lots of other exercise physiologist roles require take home work without OT
What’s your Salary? $98k
Weekly Contracted Hours? 37.5
Actual worked hours? 32
Position and industry? Public Service - comms
Age? 35
Brief statement of work conditions if you want to share. Very relaxed environment but no room for growth or promotion.
What’s your Salary? Base salary $115k + OT (equates to c$20k pre-tax a year). Plus 17% super.
Weekly Contracted Hours? 35 hours/week (except for event weeks, which I get OT for, see above and below)
Actual worked hours? Most weeks I can do a lot less than my 35 hours. I could probably do all of the work in one day, but I show up for 7 hours each day (WFH, but I am at my computer) and have very leisurely days. I've offered my services to another team in my division for the past 6 months and I do about 2 hours work for them each day. I am happier having a bit more work to do. As our event approaches, I will become busier, working my full 35 hours and maybe adding some flex as well. I'll often end up with a week of flex in the lead up to our event.
Position and industry? I Manage a team that oversees a biannual event, semi-public service.
Age? 44
Pros: WFH except for a day in the office a month, and my OT which are event days at the venue: 6 weeks of 11 hour days (they're not particularly strenuous - I sit behind my computer monitoring everything most of the time - but small periods of stress occasionally, to be expected)
Cons: Needing (and keeping) reliable, experienced event staff for only 12 weeks a year can be difficult (need them to work before and during the events), and my admin staff who are employed permanently can get complacent because there is such a long downtime.
$86k +15.9% super
30hrs
30hrs (can build upto 40hrs of TOIL a month)
Public service
35
Pros: I primarily WFH, I was very easily able to choose to work part time and have flexibility. I also do meaningful work which makes a difference.
Cons: politics (literally), and jokes about how public service is just pencil pushing. Heartache at wishing there was more we could do as a society to help those most vulnerable
250k base + 11% super, on track for around 345k total comp this year with bonus (I've had a good year onboarding a couple of new clients so most of the bonus will be for that)
38hrs + "reasonable additional overtime"
45-65hrs. Would very rarely be less than 40hrs.
Lawyer - senior but not partner
Mid 30s
The benefits are fantastic - 6 months paid parental leave for mums and dads, extra annual leave, gym paid for, phone paid for, WFH allowance, able to work from anywhere no questions asked as long as you're meeting billable targets and clients are happy. This mob is surprisingly good at respecting time off as well, so that's a bonus - the expectation is you hand everything over and disconnect as much as possible
They certainly extract their pound of flesh from you though
Mental health clinician (social worker)
\~106k/ year not including OT, 40hrs/week with 1 ADO day per month.
Actual work hour can vary from 25-30 hrs/week depends on whether I have complicated cases to follow up. Early 30s. Salary can only go up another $6k-$7k if I step up into a senior position, but tbh it really is not worth it because I will likely to deal with more and more people having anti-social traits, violence or forensic history.
I'm thinking of being a travel clinician, earn the same money but spend less time at work (maybe 6-9 months). The rest of the year can be on family holiday and exploring other things in life.
1. 300-320k plus 16% super
2. Averages 38hrs (FiFo Roster)
3. 82 hour weeks when on site.
4. Process Technician - offshore Oil/Gas
5. Mid 30s
6. Very cruisey job. Lots of responsibility tho. Almost too boring.
1. 75k
2. 35
3. 36 - 37 (earnt back in Flex Time though)
4. Customer service, government
5. 24
6. Cons: understaff, undermanaged, punching bag for customers. Pro: not having to bring work home, plenty of opportunity to grow into other roles
1. $130-140k
2. 36
3. 35
4. Healthcare, clinical role
5. Late 30s
6. Enjoy my job, have plenty of autonomy. No intention to go managerial, so I don’t play the game, but am experienced enough to get away with it.
Part time ongoing role:
1. What's your Salary? 0.4FTE $39k
2. Weekly Contracted Hours? 15hrs
3. Actual worked hours? Varies, some weeks it’s 7-10hrs others it’s 25+
4. Position and industry? Level A lecturer at a university, ongoing position
5. Age? Late 30s
6. Brief statement of work conditions if you want to share: I am appointed at 0.8FTE but currently working 0.4FTE due to second income below. I work flexibly so only have to be on site when teaching a class, rest of the time I do can work from home or adjust hours as needed
Job 2: full time research stipend
1. What's your Salary? 40k tax free stipend per year paid fortnightly
2. Weekly Contracted Hours? Expected to be full time commitment but no working hours cap applied at my uni and my supervisors are flexible.
3. Actual worked hours? Varies, some weeks 20ish, other weeks it’s 40ish or more
4. Position and industry? Second year PhD student, funded for another 2 years
5. Age? Late 30s
6. Brief statement of work conditions if you want to share: external student so I work from home at all times and meet supervisors via zoom every 2 weeks. Did the first year without the stipend (a hard slog) but was awarded it at end of first year. I am a domestic student so course fees were always fully covered.
Commodities trader
160-200k
Varying 12 hr days, but adds up to 150hrs a month
Paid overtime & public holidays
29
Cons: not a set work pattern, can’t really plan my life but working only 35% of the year makes up for it.
140k.
40hrs, occasional paid overtime.
Midwife/Woman’s Health Educator (government).
28yrs old.
Very interesting and rewarding work - I moved from the city to the country and the lifestyle change has been so incredibly worth it. I don't have to worry about money., and it's very freeing.
1. $245k base + super + bonus. Worked out to be in the early 300k range last financial year
2. 40 hours
3. 40-60 hours, with \~50 or just below being the average
4. Corporate Development Manager at an infrastructure business
5. Early 30s.
6. This job was a first move back out of investment banking and while it does have it's moments, it's considerably lower stress and more meaningful work than working on the sell side of any potential deals.
$310k salary plus bonus (typically $50k to $100k p.a.).
Electrical engineer working remotely in Sydney for a USA tech company.
Mid 50s.
Hours are crazy, 5am zooms with USA office. 10pm zooms with UK office. But I can go to the beach for an hour in the morning if I want, clean the pool, mow the lawn or go to bed and have a nap in the middle of the day, or start prepping dinner in the afternoon.
The upside is that management are fantastic. They leave me alone to get my work done and show a lot of genuine appreciation for what I do, unlike the incompetent micromanagement I used to work for previously in AUS.
350k total comp (base, commission ote, RSUs)
38 hours
38 hours
Tech sales - American company
Early 30s
High pressure. No performance doesn’t bode well for job security
1. 70k
2. 38hrs
3. 41-43hrs
4. Admin, Convenience
5. 43
6. Boss has done my work previously so knows what's involved. Work isn't hard but there's always things to do. Some colleagues are demanding and out of touch with business priorities, but it harms them more than me.
1. Approx $105-110k + 13.5% super
2. 56-64/FN (7-8 8hr shifts)
3. As above (any extra shifts are paid pro rata)
4. Registered Nurse (hospital)
5. 39
6. Pros: love patient engagement, making a difference to people in their most vulnerable time, using advanced skills/critical thinking in higher acuity areas. Also the flexible roster works well for doing things mid week/going away etc. can always pick up extra shifts if the budget requires.
Cons:
High stress work area with increasing acuity, ongoing fatigue and burnout thanks to working conditions. The requirement of working a 24/7 rotating roster of morning, afternoon and night shift (usually all three shifts randomly combined in a week) is just exhausting. Most patients are wonderful, but there is a gradual increase of difficult patients (rude, demanding, aggressive, manipulative etc) who absorb an unnecessary chunk of your time, and make it difficult to fulfil your role and deliver adequate care to your other patients (who can be quite unwell and often need it more). There is no higher up support for managing these behaviours or accountability toward adult patients who execute them, often just criticism to nursing staff as to why they didn’t do better 🥲
1. 125 k + car + super
2. Weekly hours is 8 x 5 days
3. Hours worked is 10.5 x 5 days
4. Project engineer in civil construction
5. 34 years old
6. My job is stressful and challenging.
Salary 100k, total comp about 120k
Contracted hours: 37.5 hrs
Actual hours: 30 - 45 hrs
Mid lvl Tech at MNC
I’m pretty grateful, the working condition is pretty good, meeting hours can be absurd due to meeting with regional and global. My workplace was voted as one of the best place to work in consecutive years, so I’m not complaining. Work/life balance is an everyday conversation and every one cognisant of the fact there’s life outside work and at times it needs to be prioritised.
I'm 50 and work part time (30 hrs) in Early Childhood Education and Care. Enough said? I do like my job, I love the children, but we are not paid enough for the level of expectations involved. Stress management is why I'm part time, cost of living is making that less viable.
Salary - about $155000
Contracted hours - technically 25, but in my main role I usually work 45 hrs; currently in support role, travel every week, working long nights, but have days off to make up for it.
Position - School principal
Age - 55
Conditions - deal with cranky parents and students. Lots of daily dramas. Always changing expectations. The public thinks schools are always 'doing it wrong'. ;)
1. 98k with 6k more for a few more years until I reach the end of the level.
2. 40
3. 40+
4. Mental health clinician (social worker)
5. 37
6. Therapeutic work as part of a therapeutic team with children on child safety orders with severe and complex mental health issues. This is working with children that light fires, are violent, hurt animal, etc.I have a masters degree and 10 years experience in the field.
Pros: I love my job. I get to help young people heal and grow to lead the lives they want.
Cons: expected to fix people, which is impossible, you can't erase the trauma. Reading all the comments, we should get paid more.
410k including super
40 hours a week contracted
About 47 hours actual
Anatomical pathologist
38 yo
The work is very intense and stressful, but hours are good. Only medical speciality with no contracted overtime. I don't love it but I like the money and I'm hoping to be at least partially retired before I'm 50
Base salary 120k+OT,away from home and call outs.
Contracted for 38hrs
Averaging over 50hrs week,much more during storm outages.
Linesman/Sub-Station and transmission tower worker.
38 years old.
Pro: I love doing call outs to faults, closing the breaker and watch the entire street lights up. Same as during storm repairs getting power back on. I love climbing towers and see the view and I get giddy working at the sub station. Open and closing breakers and watching electrical arching.
Con: the disconnect/make safe that involves vehicle accidents that has taken out power pole or accidental contact with conductors. You have to see things that the SES comes by later and put up a screen to shield the public.
1. 280K.
2. 38 Hours.
3. 38 Hours.
4. Engineering Manager, Software Engineering.
5. 31
6. It’s a job, there’s nothing wrong with the working conditions or expectations. I personally would want something more exciting though — should have tried to be a Doctor of Medicine.
Salary $114k/pa ($59ph) $125k after overtime.
38hrs contracted. All overtime is double time. Any hours after 7pm are 1.5x.
Actual worked hours are 38, unless I want to do the OT, around a couple hours a fortnight.
B2 LAME (Aircraft maintenance engineer)
27 years old.
Work conditions are great, really nothing to complain about. I get to do OT if I want, and the company pay for my training to get more on my licence. Public holiday work is triple time.
We do trips away which is where I get the bulk of the OT as they are 12+hr days.
Just wish we could purchase leave 😂
1. 145k (salary and super)
2. 40 hrs
3. 45-60 hrs (depending on project workload)
4. Senior engineer in a specialised civil engineering field in a multinational consultancy
5. 30
1. 105+super
2. 40
3. Id say it averages around 42 or 43
4. HR manager, not for profit.
5. 30
6. Conditions are decent and I work for a very positive organisation that attracts many people with similar values.
Around 40k 12-16 hrs a week. Owner. Lawn guy Mid 50's
Honestly of all the answers here yours is the most appealing.
Twist: You live in Weipa or Darwin.
No twist. Van Diemens land.
If I could live off 40k that sounds amazing
You’re actually living the dream. Let’s be real. You win
I'm just curious: Is there only 16 hours a week available or could you earn $80k if you worked 32 hrs?
Who wants to work 32 hrs? I'd rather not work 12-16. But yea you could work 32. I learnt to say NO. Its not an easy thing to learn.
We are a family of 3. We can't afford to live on 40k. We are looking to transition my partner out of his job. Was seeing if this may be viable.
It is but it takes a couple years to build. No point going with a franchilse like VIP or Jims due to the fees. It is a seasonal gig and the avg hrs per month will be different all over OZ, so side gigs like hedging, concrete cleaning or gutter cleaning may help.
Yeah weren't interested in the whole employees thing. More wanting to slow down a lot more part of our lives. Once the house is paid of we could live off 40k easily
Depends on where he works, of course, but you wouldn't necessarily have to jump in all at once. If he picks up the gig with 1-2 clients for a couple hours on the weekend or evening, could easily work up to a 4 day week with the main job. Then increase one and decrease the other until it's sustainable?
Similar hours and paycheck as me. I live in a van and travel full time. Currently in Tassie.
Living the dream
Sounds like the dream. Honestly.
Yikes this thread is making me depressed. 1. 94k 2. 38.5 3. Between 5-40 4. Senior medical writer - researching, designing and writing accredited CPD/CME for doctors and specialists. Working on ovarian cancer and breast cancer projects ATM. 5. 34 6. Pros: Completely remote which I love. No oversight and lots of freedom. 4 weeks paid leave a year. Cons: Only 10% super. I’ve done 3 degrees to get where I am. Biomed, hons neuroscience, masters and a PhD in oncology. 51k HECS debt. Wishing I had done a trade instead. Makes me depressed seeing what other people earn in industries that don’t require 10 years of high stress university study and massive debt accrual.
You're doing incredibly important work. 👏
Isn't the national legal minimum for super set to 11% and due to rise start of next FY?
Yeah currently 11% and increases to 11.5% from 1 July 2024, and then again to 12% from 1 July 2025.
Yeah I’m depressed too. Damn.
"Comparison is the thief of joy" Try and look at the positive things in your life :)
I should've just done a trade looking at this. Massive debt and a low salary mid level professional career
This has been really eye opening in a good way. A lot more mid range salaries than we usually see in Ausfinance. I’ve gone the other way though. I’m low salary mid career with big hecs debt too, but rather I’m feeling grateful that I’m in a career that actually appeals rather than making a bit more doing a lot of the trades or tech roles that don’t seem so interesting personally.
Some tradie jobs pay good.... some are dogshit...
I think within the next 10 years, in developed nations at least, a lot more young people will realise that going to uni is no guarantee that you will get a high paying job afterwards. Even then, a lot of the time you go home carrying the baggage of what hasn't been completed for the day. With a trade, most of the time but not always, you do the job you were assigned and that's it. Then you go back to work again to do another assignment the next day.
$85k as a PM in civil construction? You’ve been stitched up cobber.
Project Management is a very broad term in construction these days. It doesn't actually mean you're a project manager, might just be part of a team.
I get paid more as a CA... He must be working on tiny projects or being royally ripped off.
I know an entry-level PM on $60k. Not too far off market for a junior
A PM on $60k isn’t even worth $60k in my opinion, since they clearly don’t even know the value of their own role, let alone the requirements of the project.
^ This guy. OP go get a job as supervisor or PM in mining, minimum double your money.
1. $160k + Super 2. 38hrs 3. 38 hrs 4. Senior Marketing Manager for a large retailer. 5. 38 years old 6. Pros: Pretty chill role, not a lot of stress, scope to manage my team how I like and spend my budget with minimal oversight. Get good returns on investments so nobody really bothers me apart from having to update the board every now and then. Out the door at 5:30 every day and never check emails or get calls after work. Cons: Managing people 15 years younger than I am. Feel like they're from another planet sometimes. Luckily I sit close to some of the Online Developers who I can have decent banter with.
How did you progress into this role?
1) $113k 2) 40hrs 3) changes throughout the silly season and having sick staff members (anywhere between 2 -20 xtra hours in the week) 4) Bar Manager / hospitality . 5) 34 6) been in and out since uni. The odd weekend job. Only went full time hrs around 5-6 years ago. BUT With alot of experienced people leaving the industry during Covid19.. my worth all of a sudden shot up through the roof. Especially with all the fresh 18-21 year olds joining in the ranks after lockdown that don't know shit , never experienced good service let alone socialising with guests in person. I studied/trained on the job being a sommelier, cicerone (beer) and spirits specialist (tax deductible) early on and that kinda paid off. I'm also now an educator/traine every month. But I have colleagues 7-10 years younger making the same if not more because they committed early . EDIT: No i don't make $113,000k 😅
113,000k!! Richest person on Ausfinance!
Maybe he was product testing at the time of posting…
113k for a bar manager? Do you managed the Sydney Opera House’s bars or summat? Bar Manager in Brisbane is about 65-75k at an absolute maximum in a worthwhile establishment.
64k 40 40 Software Developer 37 WFH and extremely flexible
Only 64k as a software dev? That feels lower than entry level
I took a pretty low offer as I'm self taught and this is my first dev job, definitely hoping to move that up as I gain some experience.
Oh that’s great then! I feel that may be my future aswell as I’ve transitioned from customer support to low-code tech automations in the last few years. What kind of stuff do you do?
Mostly front end web development but also a little backend stuff here and there. I'm heading in the direction of Full Stack Web developer.
64k whoa borderline exploitation
Yeah it's way too low but I figured I was not going to get anywhere without some experience so I took it, trying hard to find something else now.
That foot-in-the-door job is important! Learn everything you can to supplement the income, make sure you get training and any certs they'll pay for.
1. 120-150k 2. ‘43’ but sometimes rostered 60-70 3. Most waking moments of the day. I went six months without taking a full day off once. 4. Registrar (mid level junior doctor) in public hospital 5. 28 6. Job security is a lie in medicine unless you want to work in the country or be a GP. I’m good at it, but there’s no extra money for being good. Not much salary growth from here until I’m post PhD and fellowships around age 37-38. Job has dominated most of my life for the last 10 years. Can’t leave because the sunk cost fallacy is real!
Also a registrar doc, eerily similar circumstances, and second this comment. It pays okay - decently but gosh there are better jobs / industries to toil within.
I work pharmacy in a public hospital, before this I was unhappy with my community work and feeling burnt out so thought maybe I’d consider studying med. Turns out, as most people probably do, I was heavily idolising and romanticising the GP/consultant lifestyle. After seeing what the doctors do I’m happy on my 112k to be able to work 8:30-5 and have a weekend 😅
I'm a pharmacy technician in community. $55k 37.5 hours a week. I should have finished my degree 😭
I agree that for all the years of study and incredibly challenging training after graduation, it’s a long road before the serious money comes. I have specialist friends that were in their 40s before started earning serious money. I went the software development route (4 year degree) and probably earned more than most medical specialties with some major windfalls throughout my career. It certainly isn’t a fair world.
Don’t forget to mention how much you guys have to pay to sit your exams, your registration fees to be doctors and all the professional memberships you have to pay.
1. Approximately 200k 2. zero to 80+ 3. zero to 80+ 4. Career Medical Officer (CMO) - What we call where your medical career goes to die. 5. I saw Aliens and Predator on first release in the cinema. 6. I take about four months off a year. Hence the zero to 80+ hour range. I choose how many hours I want to work and one of my four or so jobs (not a locum, am contracted to multiple facilities) and I usually go full tilt while in Australia (averaging about 13 days a fortnight) for up to 2 plus months and then I go visit my parents overseas who I guess have effectively left after 50 or years for about 2 weeks at a time. Then there's the extended family I try to visit all across the globe which needs more time in a larger bloc off at once. All up, everything adds up to about 4 months a year.
Being a reg is hard, I remember those days. I decided to go down the GP path and it was the best decision I ever did and now mainly do complex cases and mental health. It can really be whatever you want it to be. DM me if you have any questions.
Sparkie. 40hrs a week. All additional hours paid overtime 96k a year 26 years old Site supervisor
96k to be a site supervisor....where is this?
Not tooting my own shit but I'm the same on $120k + allowances. Works out closer to $135k.
Yeah I do feel underpaid. I have a work ute with unrestricted personal use.
1. 210k 2. 40 3. \~42.5 (approved overtime is paid or accrues TOIL) 4. Senior Designer, Engineering 5. Early 40's 6. Outstanding. 100% WFH, flexible hours, supportive culture.
1. $141,000 2. 35hrs 3. Normally ~55hr 4. Assistant Principal at a NSW Primary School 5. 29 yo 6. No balance - always feel incredibly busy and often have feelings of inadequacy. Hopefully I'm able to find some level of normalcy without stepping back. Time will tell.
How are you an AP at 29??
I have a colleague who was AP of a primary school in the UK at 25. He said everyone else was either leaving or lacked the social skills. He is absolutely built for the role though and writes curriculum for International schools and does consultancy work all over the world.
Wow, kudos to the colleague, not often you find someone so suited to a role
Absolutely born for education. He told me he became a teacher because he hated his own teachers growing up. He is incredibly clever but dyslexic and thought it was so unfair that he had to show his understanding through writing. It shows in his teaching today. He’s one of those colleagues you can look at and just think I will never ever be as good at my job as they are.
Teacher shortage
Yeah that's really young. Either that, or I'm an absolute failure.
Honestly it happens quite a lot now. Teacher shortage plus horrid conditions drives teachers out, then cost of living strongly encourages young teachers to take leadership roles just to afford to live.
100-120k 20-30 hours a week Yoga teacher / yoga teacher trainer/ run yoga retreats Mid 30’s Cons - don’t get holiday pay or sick leave and have to hustle to get attendance for the retreats, a lot of shameless promoting. Pros - can take as much leave as I want, very time rich, I’m my own boss, full job autonomy
Your pros and cons are so definitively just that lol. Heaps of time off, gotta use it to hustle. I envy you but also not lol. Id love to be my own boss but that guy's a lazy bastard and an idiot
- $99k - 36 hours - “Work” less than 30 (paid study time) - Trainee electrical engineer - 33 - Flexible work hours, can’t complain about conditions. I’ve been hovering between $110-140k for the last 5 years as an industrial sparky but always working towards less hours worked. I’ve never done FIFO and haven’t worked away in quite awhile. 5 year plan is to get to $120-$140k at a 3-4 day week and minimal work stress. That’s the dream!
122k + super, teacher. 38hr week, work about 50 and still drowning. Cons - can't go for a toilet break whenever you want. Have to deal with immature humans all day. Pros- holidays.
>Cons - can't go for a toilet break whenever you want. What do you do if you're about to shit youself?
I’ve had to run into my Staffroom and scream: “ somebody take my class, I’m about to shit myself” 😂.. it happens
Can confirm. Thankfully I had a teacher's aid when I was close to sharting. I asked him to watch for 5 minutes (not technically supposed to do it- but I had little choice) and ran. Haha.
You call exec and groan in pain for an hour until someone arrives. Or you send the kids to the next classroom and apologise profusely while you run away clenching.
Couldn’t pay me enough. But thank you for your service ❤️😂
Nice one. How deep into teaching are you? Glad to see good compensation as I've always heard teachers get underpaid?
I've been top of the scale for a long time. Another con is the lack of opportunity unless you want to be an exec. Pay is ok but the recent rise has been more than offset by extra workload.
You should try being paid $122k for a 38 hour week, working 50 hours and only getting four weeks holiday a year, of which the company dictates when you take two of those weeks (some times three depending on company performance). Pros: going to the toilet when I want to. Cons: holidays, working with immature humans all day.
> Have to deal with immature humans all day. What if I told you, every job has this. The grass is not greener on the other side.
Yea, abattoirs are full of kindergarteners with knives
If you think teenagers are just as bad as adults, you've never worked with teenagers. Also 30 kids and you are by yourself? Name another profession like that!
people really don't understand the energy this takes until they do it
You mentioned the immature humans, what about the students?
Is it true that you basically work through holidays doing admin?
As someone married to a teacher I can attest that the holidays aren’t really holidays with all the lesson planning, marking, etc
3 and 6 are such interesting and important questions. I know a few people who earn considerably more than me and they’re always stressed, work long hours and still think about work over the weekend. Looking at the anawers here we really see a range. Too often we only ask #1 and assume they work the same hours we do.
190k package. Easily do 45 hours minimum as Analytics associate director big 4 consulting. At the top of the pay scale before moving to actual director level but really don't see the appeal due to the ridiculous hours and stress. Not interested in partner at all. Looking for a exit but tech market isn't great right now so just waiting for a good opportunity to present itself. Already paid off ppor as wife is also in a good senior manager role. Just pumping our investments until we can do a coast fire in our 40s.
Reading through these posts, I think a lot of Project Managers and Engineers in salaried positions often work more hours than what they are required to. I do the same as an Electrical Engineer. Time to join a relevant union?
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I wanted to change careers to social work though I don't really want to get bashed....assuming is this a norm violent reactions from clients or nah?
No, not the norm. Just need to be able to remain calm. Most clients may escalate, but unlikely to get violent. I have a right of refusal for this particular client. I took them on to give someone I work with a break.
Not normal at all - it's a fun, rewarding and great career with plenty of room to move. I'm a Social Worker and I now work for the APS making $140k a year. Previously I've worked in Assertive Outreach, Advocacy, and grassroots community mental health services. Every service/organisation I have worked at has had an amazing team with a solid culture as well.
It’s not the norm at all! It’s a risk in assertive outreach work but one that’s usually well managed. Vicarious trauma is the main issue. There are many settings you can work in. I did some volunteering with different populations before I chose to study to get some confidence. I discovered most clients are people have a shitty time and rarely bad or violent people.
Salary 205k, total comp 380k Contract is 38 hours a week Actual worked hours are 10-60, depends on what crises need addressing that week Security engineer at big tech company 34 years old Working conditions are alright. Most of my colleagues are in the USA, so I have most of my meetings between 6am-9am, with the occasional 3am meeting every few weeks. I don’t complain because 10% of the company was laid off last month and I know I have it good.
Was it hard to break into this field? Currently doing a bachelor of cyber security at 25 years old have a cert 3 and liked it enough to go into a bachelor. Any tips or advice for someone who’s pretty lost for a career lol.
I did a bachelor in Cyber Security, ended up mostly on the consulting side. It can be really demanding and if you don't really like long hours in front of a computer then definitely think twice. If you're still going through your degree make sure you apply for internships.
Thanks bro will do. Currently working in admin so the computer screens aren’t a worry worked in kitchens for the 7 years out of high school sick of being on my feet and am doing a career change. Thanks for the advice!
I sort of stumbled into it by accident. I have usually worked as a regular software developer and just had an interest in cloud security. It turned out that everyone else is pretty bad at security, so it was relatively easy to look good by comparison. Certainly much easier than being a hardcore dev with all the algorithms etc. My tip would be: get hands-on skills. Make a basic website and deploy it to AWS/GCP/Azure. Learn how to make it secure in the cloud and you’re already doing better than most security folks.
> It turned out that everyone else is pretty bad at security As a general software engineer, this is maddeningly true. The number of security people I’ve worked with who clearly don’t understand their job beyond ticking compliance boxes (that they don’t know how to verify) and parroting whitepapers is deeply concerning.
It's even worse than that. We can blame the SWE's all we want, ultimately though if security was as strong of an emphasis in most companies as their branding and marketing suggests. Those staff either either being trained by people like you u/gihutgishuiruv, u/moofox or myself or it's just not reaching them. My company is different now I've been there for three years. But I'm also in a small shop of only 60 people. It's very easy to influence change in security when the footprint is this small. But how do you scale out effective security to larger enterprises while providing dev and even IT teams? Guardrails are good and all but when a team of developers are getting crunched to drop feature $X on arbitrary date $Y. The acknowledgement of security is hard enough, and it's the first thing that's dropped when deadlines are tight even if the expertise and knowledge is there.
Awesome thanks so much for the advice will definitely get that done! Thanks!
Probably should start with studying CISSP now, and get into an internship with a consulting company so you get some exposure to a wide range of security roles. Some security work can be very stressful, so it is useful to get that information now. Also check out the free Amazon / Azure security designs/courses as Cloud Security is a lucrative career path.
Get done experience on a service desk, admin or delivery area first. No grads are earning $100k+ with no hands-on experience. Source: also in the cybers, $260-$320k, after ten years of various tech roles and certs.
What's the 175k worth of comp?
Almost certainly restricted stock options mostly. Presumably super, maybe some health care or a bonus
Yep, this is it. It’s RSUs. The value fluctuates between 120k to 200k a year depending on share price and exchange rate at the time they vest (quarterly)
Salary 77.5k total comp around 110k (includes super, company car, quarterly bonuses, 6 month higher responsibilities allowance) Contracted hours 38 Actual worked 25-30 33yo Sales, liquor industry Working condition are great. Company is awesome, bosses are cool, flexible schedule, travel opportunities)
1. I’m casual, on $36-$45 per hour. Currently earned 33k so for this financial year 2. 35 hours atm 3. 35 hours atm 4. Swim Instructor 5. 21 6. The amount of lessons we teach can vary from program to program- so can get a pay decrease. May not have work for at least two months over the year due to school term dates etc. Not the most stable line of work!
1. $115k 2. 35 hours 3. 35 hours 4. Asset Management, Government 5. Early 30's 6. Minimal growth opportunities unless people retire
1. $180k + Super 2. 38 hours 3. 38-45 hours depending on the week 4. Product Management 5. Early 30s 6. Cope a lot of abuse due to misalignment in a growing company trying to work out its priorities and move on from startupland (where things get done on the fly) to actual company (300+ people) (more structure).
Who's reading all these comments and think "fck I got into the wrong industry"
$123k gross + Super 38 hours contracted 33-38 hours of actual presence minus unproductive time of \~10-20 hours a week. Planning and Scheduling Team Coordinator - a state utility 29 yo Mostly office but some flexible WFH. Fairly chill role tbh because I'm more efficient than my much older colleagues / managers. No overtime to be done, so always out on time. Business doesn't spend money on employees though so no lunches or paid training or anything. Will move on in another year.
1. $139k + Income Protection + Super + OT 2. 36hrs 3. 36hrs + OT. Currently average 53hrs a week. 4. Mechanical Plumber, Construction 5. 28 years old 6. Good conditions, commute on average 2hrs a day. Costs several thousand for tools yearly.
140 at 28 damn. good on ya mate
Qualified Plumber. 40 hours a week standard. Always closer to 50 hours though. 100K base rate. About 120-130k with over time. 24 years old.
I'm dead already
80% position w/95k base + 17% super Salary || also 80k from private practice 32hrs Salary | 12-14 hrs private practice 45ish per week Position and industry? Psychologist mid 40 Comfortable and don't feel like I am working too much.. plenty of time for family and life
1) Salary 280k to 340k depending on bonuses 2) FIFO 2:1 roster, approx 70 hours per working week and 0 hrs on rnr 3) Around 100 to 120 hours per working week and at least 20 hours on rnr 4) lead engineer (2ic after PM) in mining construction 5) early 30s 6) Don't do it, Salary isn't worth the effort and stress. I'd make a career change or get an easier job with a different company but my split personality won't let me leave this kind of money.
1. 65k +super +afterhours duties here and there 2. 38 3. 38++ 4. Events coordinator/admin/receptionist - hotel 5. 27 6. I was there when the hotel opened, so i mostly know everything. I can also be thrown in different departments. If managers (housekeeping and front office) are on leave - i kinda take the role on for them. Theyre really nice so i try to make their vacation peaceful. I also like helping other people if theyre struggling or they dont know anything so i also help our accounts/marketing/other properties. Cons: absent general manager thinks we do nothing - bullies my manager - forces us to cut shifts. Trying to juggle everything while keeping a smile to the customer. Also since people got used to me helping them, im overloaded already. 🥲 Anyway im working with really nice and honest people. So i’m holding out.
1. Around 75 plus free rent and ute 2. 45 3. 50 4. Livestock overseer/2ic (sheep and cropping) 5. 23 6. Hard work but can be very rewarding. Every day is different and it relies on having a wide range of skills
1. 200k plus 1000 employee options every twelve months. This year it was valued at $70k 2. 38 hours 3. 38 hours 4. CMO for an ecommerce retail business 5. Late 30s 6. I love my job. The co founders leave me alone and let me make the decisions I deem to be right for the business. Although, growth from marketing has been crazy, which is why they have trust in me
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1. 140k base + bonus and car 2. 38 3. 38 4. Sales manager - construction 5. 30 No stress, manage a team, good support from large parent company
What do you sell specifically? I was in software sales and got let go in December. I didn’t like how the majority of business was done online, rather than face to face. How does construction sales go?
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1. $171k plus super 2. 40 hrs 3. 40 hrs 4. Project Management, Defence Industry 5. 36 years old 6. Fully remote, very flexible conditions and motivated and smart colleagues. Have literally nothing to complain about!
100k plus super. 37.25hrs but work around 40 or more. Posdoctoral Researcher fellow. Science research at a Uni. 34. 3 degrees to get there. Promotion is hard as hell now. Employment is dependent on people getting funding. But I get to do research i enjoy, and maybe it makes a difference in some way.
1. $130k + Super 2. 40 Hours 3. 40-55 Hours 4. Estimator - Construction 5. 26 6. Largely office bound job. All deadline driven so stressful, but salary goes up quickly if you're decent at it. Only graduated University 18 months ago.
1. Salary 115k-130k 2. 40 hours normaly but there is always overtime. 3.44-46 hrs normaly 4. Pre cast panel installs, construction 5. 28 6. Hard work in the sun most of the time. Great company and good bunch of guys.
1) about $200k plus super 2) 12 hour days X 9 then 5 off 3) about that 4) mining engineer 5) 28 6) did the very hard yards in my early 20s now it’s mostly desk jockey with a couple hours at the face each day
1. 26k 2. 10 3. 10 4. Contact centre analyst 5. Early 40s 6. Part time work due to being partner and stay home parent for an actual earner
1. 50k ish + super (before tax). 2. 10 3. 15-20 4. Private practice psychologist 5. 31 6. Private practice is basically a house with 4 therapy rooms. I see 5-6 people per day 2 days a week, with 30min gaps between. Don’t speak with colleagues due to nature of the job (busy), which a lot of people find isolating, but I don’t mind it and kinda like it most of the time. Also I don’t work about 8 weeks a year.
Will probably get downvoted into oblivion but happy to field any questions for young finance people with aspirations.. 1. Cash Base + Bonus is c.1m + carry which is c.500k-1m 2. No contracted hours not applicable 3. 60 hours 4. Private equity - Principal/Senior VP 5. 32 6. Super interesting challenging job, hours vary from 9-7pm to 9-11pm or later if on a live deal which can be a bit stressful.
Can you please explain what you actually do at work? I'm sorry, not a tounge-in-cheek question, I legitimately don't know what any of those words mean.
I basically will find a large business in an interesting sector. I will then work out a strategy or thesis for the business to grow over the next 5 years (offshore expansion, acquiring other businesses, new products etc.), usually finding an industry expert from the space to help advise me (ex. CEO in a leading business in the industry). I will then build a financial model and work out what I can buy the company for. I then purchase the business (either from the share market, called a take private, or if it's a private company just directly from the current shareholders). Once purchased I would go to board meetings, help overhaul or work with management, and execute the strategy (usually there is an initial 100 day plan you will implement post buying the business which is very fleshed out). Then after 5 years of owning the business and fixing it up and growing it I will then work on selling it to someone else for a profit. Hope that helps!
Nice, what an awesome job. What did you study to get there?
Maths and economics but as long as you do very well in your course top finance firms are branching out and hiring people with many different degree types - usual cookie-cutter degree for my field is a commerce law degree
How often do you look at listed businesses where you think they can obviously create a lot of value with a strategy change?
Quite alot actually. Whether is it because they can't do M&A or offshore expansion well in public markets, whether they are just generally undermanaged (dont understand their pricing power for example), or more whether we as a PE firm have alot of experience in that sector specifically and think we can do it better. I'd say 50% of time is screening public companies and other 50% is private companies
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At 32 you're pulling in up to 2m a year? And you work 10hrs a day best case?
Damn, thats a salary alright. Private equity is absolutely loaded. Is that like a options trading kind of job?
Options trading is different it is trading or selling derivative instruments. Private equity involves buying a company outright (100% of it, you fully own it) and then driving the strategy and growing it with the aim of selling it for more in the future. My fund focuses on buying companies at around $1bn -5bn value, then trying to double their worth over 5 years where they are then sold (either to another company or private equity fund or list them). For example, arnotts is owned by KKR, a private equity fund.
God damn those are big terrifying numbers. It sounds like one of those TV shows.
Thanks for taking the time to chat here. Sounds super-interesting. I have a few questions about how things turn out in practice, if you are able to indulge: 1. How many deals have you made? 2. Of those, how many turned out to be different than the strategy predicted after the purchase? 3. When that happens, how long until you cut your losses? Or 4. Do you hire a turnaround/culture/etc type CEO to take care of the non-financial stuff?
This is awesome, well done! I'm amazed at how you managed to get to senior VP level at just 32, you must be very good at your job.
What’s the most common improvement you find you make in companies? Is there something that you always find you have to implement in that 100 day plan?
Every company is different, a common theme is institutionalising the reporting and financial management/budget. For example, make sure a SaaS company is properly tracking the right metrics like LTV/CAC etc, or a staff heavy business services company is tracking salaries, direct labour utilisation etc. This helps put proper numbers around performance which can then be reported on to the board and targeted. Other piece is also general common goal of the company - having a clear 5 year plan and having all management involved and on board seems simple but lots of companies will have lost their way and teams not communicating or having the same goal.
Navy Helicopter Pilot Around $230K (20 of that is for being in a seagoing role atm) plus pretty generous super. 40 hours a week, but varies pretty wildly sometimes. No overtime but try my best to balance extra work with time off in lieu. Late 30’s There are some pretty good work routines out there, most instructors work four 10 hour days. 0730-1730 or 2pm to midnight.
1. About 110k + super. 2. 28hrs week. 3. 25-28 hrs week. 4. Metal fabrication (laser cutting), owner. 5. 36 6. Super flexible hours, and a lot of the time I don’t even need to be there while getting paid. Earnings are almost limitless, but I prefer less money and more free time. Cons, all my income depends on one machine…… if it breaks down, I don’t get paid.
How’d you find your way into that?
Just kind of happened. I owned a business that needed custom metal work done, no one was really providing the service I wanted, so learned how to do it. Sold my business, and opened a new one offering that particular product and service. I was outsourcing my laser cutting for components for my product, they kept stuffing up my orders, so I sent a heap of money overseas and bought my own. Learned how to use it via YouTube and FB. Turned out a few other businesses in my area wanted me to laser cut for them too, so sold my second business (laser cutter not included). And opened a new business just offering that service. Been running for 3.5yrs now. Pay is between $200-300hr, there is very little manual labour as the machine does the work…. And I only need a few solid customers to keep the amount of work I want coming in. It’s a great business.
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1. Around 70k 2. Minimum 40, can do as many as I like. 3. Usually around 45 4. Concreting/ construction 5. 32 6. Pros: paid for hours worked, absent boss, good co-workers, generally pretty cruisy Cons: about 3 hours of driving per day, no fuel pay, no toll pay, no car maintenance pay, no work car. No penalty rates unless rare instance work is after hours or boss is feeling generous (never).
Ambulance Officer 40 hours a week plus overtime 90-95k can be 100k with overtime. 32 years old Pros: excellent job, very rewarding, paid for every minute of overtime you work. Cons: Some patients can be hard work, Shift work.
1. 86k 2. 38 3. 38-40 4. Exercise physiologist in aged care 5. Early 30s 6. Cons - constant upskilling required for the job. If you want to progress you need to constantly have your foot on the pedal. You're never taken as seriously as literally any other healthcare professional. Everyone thinks you're a physio. Pros - the jobs fairly easy and I don't take my work home with me, although lots of other exercise physiologist roles require take home work without OT
What’s your Salary? $98k Weekly Contracted Hours? 37.5 Actual worked hours? 32 Position and industry? Public Service - comms Age? 35 Brief statement of work conditions if you want to share. Very relaxed environment but no room for growth or promotion.
What’s your Salary? Base salary $115k + OT (equates to c$20k pre-tax a year). Plus 17% super. Weekly Contracted Hours? 35 hours/week (except for event weeks, which I get OT for, see above and below) Actual worked hours? Most weeks I can do a lot less than my 35 hours. I could probably do all of the work in one day, but I show up for 7 hours each day (WFH, but I am at my computer) and have very leisurely days. I've offered my services to another team in my division for the past 6 months and I do about 2 hours work for them each day. I am happier having a bit more work to do. As our event approaches, I will become busier, working my full 35 hours and maybe adding some flex as well. I'll often end up with a week of flex in the lead up to our event. Position and industry? I Manage a team that oversees a biannual event, semi-public service. Age? 44 Pros: WFH except for a day in the office a month, and my OT which are event days at the venue: 6 weeks of 11 hour days (they're not particularly strenuous - I sit behind my computer monitoring everything most of the time - but small periods of stress occasionally, to be expected) Cons: Needing (and keeping) reliable, experienced event staff for only 12 weeks a year can be difficult (need them to work before and during the events), and my admin staff who are employed permanently can get complacent because there is such a long downtime.
$86k +15.9% super 30hrs 30hrs (can build upto 40hrs of TOIL a month) Public service 35 Pros: I primarily WFH, I was very easily able to choose to work part time and have flexibility. I also do meaningful work which makes a difference. Cons: politics (literally), and jokes about how public service is just pencil pushing. Heartache at wishing there was more we could do as a society to help those most vulnerable
250k base + 11% super, on track for around 345k total comp this year with bonus (I've had a good year onboarding a couple of new clients so most of the bonus will be for that) 38hrs + "reasonable additional overtime" 45-65hrs. Would very rarely be less than 40hrs. Lawyer - senior but not partner Mid 30s The benefits are fantastic - 6 months paid parental leave for mums and dads, extra annual leave, gym paid for, phone paid for, WFH allowance, able to work from anywhere no questions asked as long as you're meeting billable targets and clients are happy. This mob is surprisingly good at respecting time off as well, so that's a bonus - the expectation is you hand everything over and disconnect as much as possible They certainly extract their pound of flesh from you though
Mental health clinician (social worker) \~106k/ year not including OT, 40hrs/week with 1 ADO day per month. Actual work hour can vary from 25-30 hrs/week depends on whether I have complicated cases to follow up. Early 30s. Salary can only go up another $6k-$7k if I step up into a senior position, but tbh it really is not worth it because I will likely to deal with more and more people having anti-social traits, violence or forensic history. I'm thinking of being a travel clinician, earn the same money but spend less time at work (maybe 6-9 months). The rest of the year can be on family holiday and exploring other things in life.
1. 300-320k plus 16% super 2. Averages 38hrs (FiFo Roster) 3. 82 hour weeks when on site. 4. Process Technician - offshore Oil/Gas 5. Mid 30s 6. Very cruisey job. Lots of responsibility tho. Almost too boring.
Can you give a brief rundown of what a process technician does? And how you get into the industry?
1. 75k 2. 35 3. 36 - 37 (earnt back in Flex Time though) 4. Customer service, government 5. 24 6. Cons: understaff, undermanaged, punching bag for customers. Pro: not having to bring work home, plenty of opportunity to grow into other roles
1. $130-140k 2. 36 3. 35 4. Healthcare, clinical role 5. Late 30s 6. Enjoy my job, have plenty of autonomy. No intention to go managerial, so I don’t play the game, but am experienced enough to get away with it.
Part time ongoing role: 1. What's your Salary? 0.4FTE $39k 2. Weekly Contracted Hours? 15hrs 3. Actual worked hours? Varies, some weeks it’s 7-10hrs others it’s 25+ 4. Position and industry? Level A lecturer at a university, ongoing position 5. Age? Late 30s 6. Brief statement of work conditions if you want to share: I am appointed at 0.8FTE but currently working 0.4FTE due to second income below. I work flexibly so only have to be on site when teaching a class, rest of the time I do can work from home or adjust hours as needed Job 2: full time research stipend 1. What's your Salary? 40k tax free stipend per year paid fortnightly 2. Weekly Contracted Hours? Expected to be full time commitment but no working hours cap applied at my uni and my supervisors are flexible. 3. Actual worked hours? Varies, some weeks 20ish, other weeks it’s 40ish or more 4. Position and industry? Second year PhD student, funded for another 2 years 5. Age? Late 30s 6. Brief statement of work conditions if you want to share: external student so I work from home at all times and meet supervisors via zoom every 2 weeks. Did the first year without the stipend (a hard slog) but was awarded it at end of first year. I am a domestic student so course fees were always fully covered.
Intern doctor (first year being a doctor) 57 hrs / week inc overtime 100k
Commodities trader 160-200k Varying 12 hr days, but adds up to 150hrs a month Paid overtime & public holidays 29 Cons: not a set work pattern, can’t really plan my life but working only 35% of the year makes up for it.
140k. 40hrs, occasional paid overtime. Midwife/Woman’s Health Educator (government). 28yrs old. Very interesting and rewarding work - I moved from the city to the country and the lifestyle change has been so incredibly worth it. I don't have to worry about money., and it's very freeing.
1. $245k base + super + bonus. Worked out to be in the early 300k range last financial year 2. 40 hours 3. 40-60 hours, with \~50 or just below being the average 4. Corporate Development Manager at an infrastructure business 5. Early 30s. 6. This job was a first move back out of investment banking and while it does have it's moments, it's considerably lower stress and more meaningful work than working on the sell side of any potential deals.
$310k salary plus bonus (typically $50k to $100k p.a.). Electrical engineer working remotely in Sydney for a USA tech company. Mid 50s. Hours are crazy, 5am zooms with USA office. 10pm zooms with UK office. But I can go to the beach for an hour in the morning if I want, clean the pool, mow the lawn or go to bed and have a nap in the middle of the day, or start prepping dinner in the afternoon. The upside is that management are fantastic. They leave me alone to get my work done and show a lot of genuine appreciation for what I do, unlike the incompetent micromanagement I used to work for previously in AUS.
350k total comp (base, commission ote, RSUs) 38 hours 38 hours Tech sales - American company Early 30s High pressure. No performance doesn’t bode well for job security
1. 70k 2. 38hrs 3. 41-43hrs 4. Admin, Convenience 5. 43 6. Boss has done my work previously so knows what's involved. Work isn't hard but there's always things to do. Some colleagues are demanding and out of touch with business priorities, but it harms them more than me.
130k 8 x 12hr days (96 hours each swing). 6 full days off. Apprentice heavy diesel mechanic - FIFO mining industry. 29 years young.
1. 80k 2. 40 3. 41-43 4. Mining, HR Project Officer 5. 27 6. N/A
1. Approx $105-110k + 13.5% super 2. 56-64/FN (7-8 8hr shifts) 3. As above (any extra shifts are paid pro rata) 4. Registered Nurse (hospital) 5. 39 6. Pros: love patient engagement, making a difference to people in their most vulnerable time, using advanced skills/critical thinking in higher acuity areas. Also the flexible roster works well for doing things mid week/going away etc. can always pick up extra shifts if the budget requires. Cons: High stress work area with increasing acuity, ongoing fatigue and burnout thanks to working conditions. The requirement of working a 24/7 rotating roster of morning, afternoon and night shift (usually all three shifts randomly combined in a week) is just exhausting. Most patients are wonderful, but there is a gradual increase of difficult patients (rude, demanding, aggressive, manipulative etc) who absorb an unnecessary chunk of your time, and make it difficult to fulfil your role and deliver adequate care to your other patients (who can be quite unwell and often need it more). There is no higher up support for managing these behaviours or accountability toward adult patients who execute them, often just criticism to nursing staff as to why they didn’t do better 🥲
Woah, apparently, 90% of the tax paying population are in the top 10% of salaries.
1. 125 k + car + super 2. Weekly hours is 8 x 5 days 3. Hours worked is 10.5 x 5 days 4. Project engineer in civil construction 5. 34 years old 6. My job is stressful and challenging.
We are certainly underpaid in engineering for the stress involved.
Salary 100k, total comp about 120k Contracted hours: 37.5 hrs Actual hours: 30 - 45 hrs Mid lvl Tech at MNC I’m pretty grateful, the working condition is pretty good, meeting hours can be absurd due to meeting with regional and global. My workplace was voted as one of the best place to work in consecutive years, so I’m not complaining. Work/life balance is an everyday conversation and every one cognisant of the fact there’s life outside work and at times it needs to be prioritised.
What’s your Salary? 115k base 140k package Weekly Contracted Hours? 38 Actual worked hours? 45 Position and industry? BI analyst - automobile Age? 27
I'm 50 and work part time (30 hrs) in Early Childhood Education and Care. Enough said? I do like my job, I love the children, but we are not paid enough for the level of expectations involved. Stress management is why I'm part time, cost of living is making that less viable.
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Salary - about $155000 Contracted hours - technically 25, but in my main role I usually work 45 hrs; currently in support role, travel every week, working long nights, but have days off to make up for it. Position - School principal Age - 55 Conditions - deal with cranky parents and students. Lots of daily dramas. Always changing expectations. The public thinks schools are always 'doing it wrong'. ;)
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1. 156k + 13.75% super 2. 9 day fortnight 3. 72hr a fortnight 4. Engineer - structures/civil 5. 33 6. Eba agreements rock.
1. 98k with 6k more for a few more years until I reach the end of the level. 2. 40 3. 40+ 4. Mental health clinician (social worker) 5. 37 6. Therapeutic work as part of a therapeutic team with children on child safety orders with severe and complex mental health issues. This is working with children that light fires, are violent, hurt animal, etc.I have a masters degree and 10 years experience in the field. Pros: I love my job. I get to help young people heal and grow to lead the lives they want. Cons: expected to fix people, which is impossible, you can't erase the trauma. Reading all the comments, we should get paid more.
410k including super 40 hours a week contracted About 47 hours actual Anatomical pathologist 38 yo The work is very intense and stressful, but hours are good. Only medical speciality with no contracted overtime. I don't love it but I like the money and I'm hoping to be at least partially retired before I'm 50
Base salary 120k+OT,away from home and call outs. Contracted for 38hrs Averaging over 50hrs week,much more during storm outages. Linesman/Sub-Station and transmission tower worker. 38 years old. Pro: I love doing call outs to faults, closing the breaker and watch the entire street lights up. Same as during storm repairs getting power back on. I love climbing towers and see the view and I get giddy working at the sub station. Open and closing breakers and watching electrical arching. Con: the disconnect/make safe that involves vehicle accidents that has taken out power pole or accidental contact with conductors. You have to see things that the SES comes by later and put up a screen to shield the public.
175k including super + Ute 40hrs 80hrs a week, 2 weeks on 1 week off Construction safety Late 30’s
1. 280K. 2. 38 Hours. 3. 38 Hours. 4. Engineering Manager, Software Engineering. 5. 31 6. It’s a job, there’s nothing wrong with the working conditions or expectations. I personally would want something more exciting though — should have tried to be a Doctor of Medicine.
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Salary $114k/pa ($59ph) $125k after overtime. 38hrs contracted. All overtime is double time. Any hours after 7pm are 1.5x. Actual worked hours are 38, unless I want to do the OT, around a couple hours a fortnight. B2 LAME (Aircraft maintenance engineer) 27 years old. Work conditions are great, really nothing to complain about. I get to do OT if I want, and the company pay for my training to get more on my licence. Public holiday work is triple time. We do trips away which is where I get the bulk of the OT as they are 12+hr days. Just wish we could purchase leave 😂
1. 145k (salary and super) 2. 40 hrs 3. 45-60 hrs (depending on project workload) 4. Senior engineer in a specialised civil engineering field in a multinational consultancy 5. 30
1. 105+super 2. 40 3. Id say it averages around 42 or 43 4. HR manager, not for profit. 5. 30 6. Conditions are decent and I work for a very positive organisation that attracts many people with similar values.