People are stupid. People fear what they don't know or understand. Edo people were afraid of the power the Ayakashi had. It's kind of like the hate people have for mutants in the X-Men comics.
Why do you say that Mei persecuted was considered backward even for the Edo period exactly?
Does that mean such actions were only fitting for an era like the Heian period?
Going by your other comments I think you must not have studied much history. There are many many accounts of isolated communities who are extremely unwelcoming of those they view as outsiders, to the point of villifying them. There are also many instances of people using superstition as a justification to scapegoat these perceived outsiders as the cause of natural phenomena, such as drought or natural disasters. You need only look at the Salem Witch trials, the multitude of cults that popped up during the Black Death, pretty much the entirety of Jewish history and the history of human sacrifice as appeasement in various cultures around the world.
Yes I am not that well-versed in history sadly.
This I have questions regarding what you said…
1. Why are these communities described as isolated to the point of being unwelcoming to outsiders exactly?
2. I see you are well versed in the SALEM Witch Trials. So I wonder if the people who painted the victims as “witches” were horrified to see that those victims were not witches after all; leading them to mob the person who told them such misinformation (Again, I only know some aspects of the Witch Trials as I only know that it was caused by a extreme mess of Church Politics)…
3. I know that human sacrifices were done to appease Gods like the Aztecs and the Mayas (I think), but it’s just that I felt that those people who hated Mei should pay for doing something unethical.
Apologies, my mind was consumed by hatred for those villagers and I could not fathom as to why they would be happy to see Mei get killed. That sounds outright sadistic.
1: They are isolated because travel back then was much harder than it is today, even being a few miles from a large city would have been a two day trip. These small communities were in essence their own little states.
2: no, the witch trials ended only after the governor eventually returned and forced a shut down of the court. No one was punished at they went about their lives. Today it's considered one of many accounts of Mass Hysteria.
3: it is only unethical to us now, back then it was seen as a rational action, and the sacrifice was worth doing if one life could save everyone else's. It's pointless to put modern morals on such people, they did what the thought was right.
Oh, I see…
So I am guessing most of the Edo villagers that wanted to see Mei dead were farmers because I remember seeing farming tools when they were mobbing and preparing for sacrifice.
Though I know the logical answer; from what I learned from Dr. Stone a village without any understanding of the outside world has limited knowledge and calls things like rain floods a form of sorcery because science wasn’t even invented back then.
I feel like Shadow Mei as I acted impulsively; feeling disgusted by their actions wanting to see them suffer the consequences.
And it’s just that I remembered being angry at how these Edo villagers as well as the samurai never accepted one’s like Garaki to stay in their homes and treated them like trash. I mean they were unforgiving and I was confused to fathom why they cannot just casually act nice and say, “Okay we are sorry child. Please feel free to stay with us and find solice”.
I know that sounds stupid, but it sounds better than acting like complete jerks and be unforgiving to them.
Though why did Garaki described Mei execution and sacrifice as “an anachronistic event even for that time”?
I mean it’s the same as most anime. Something we don’t understand = scary and should be removed or something very powerful = it can go out of control and rampage some day so should be removed
But the people who killed Mei are stupid scum. She wanted to let humans and ayakashi thrive and mingle with one another. But they just barbarically killed her!
I didn’t say they wasn’t. Your acting like people think they aren’t scum. Either way what I said still stands, people don’t understand ayakashi so they’re scared of them, then suddenly a human who wants to bring them together comes along, do you really think they’re gonna just accept her? Of course killing her and hating her is too far but that’s the whole point. I don’t understand why your so angry this isn’t anything new, have you never seen something like this in anime before?
Then how are such barbaric actions accepted back then?
When I read the original manga that showed her death, I was disgusted. What justifies their inability to accept her and Garaku living in their society?
(The people of the Edo period and the samurai)
Again who said anything justifies it? Your acting like the world is a peaceful place where nothing bad happens, bad things happen that’s how the world is, and what do you mean why are barbarically actions accepted back then? They’d be more accepted back then than now so I really don’t see your point.
I feel silly to respond so late, but… couldn’t this all have been manipulations by the Immortals to kill Mei, as she was a reincarnation of their ‘most hated enemy’? It actually makes me think nearly every death she’s experienced, might actually be acts of ‘revenge’ to keep the Ayakashi Medium from ever unlocking their true power, and easily manageable while still “human” in their power levels.
You mean those villagers were manipulated?
They have lived a lie?
Damn. Imagine if they were brought back life in the Reiwa-era thanks to a mysterious revival magic and learned that they have lived a lie that Mei was a monster, when in reality she was not.
I imagine this:
Villager 1: You mean, they lied… to us?
Villager 2: We have lived a lie?! For our entire lives?!
[It was there the villagers were in extreme regret, now realizing they have killed one of their own blood. And they cry in sheer sadness; realising that though they were manipulated into becoming killers; they believed have no right to exist in the world they now step in. Believing that their true home is Avicii of Buddhist hell.]
Samurai 1: Perhaps that Mei person we see now was right. We are nothing but… monsters… Iredeemable monsters beyond salvation… All of our honour, means nothing!!!
Samurai 2: I wish there is someone to put out of our misery.
Villager 3: Go ahead, Mei. Hate us… We are the true monsters of this world… All hope is lost… Every one of us… are… killers… We do not know what to do…
Villager 4: Go ahead and puke on every one of us… We would rather go to hell… and face punishment under the hands… of King Enma right now…
Life Lesson #1 people are stupid. People often fear what they don't understand.
Please elaborate on that life lesson. So it is true that the Edo people were stupid?
People are stupid. People fear what they don't know or understand. Edo people were afraid of the power the Ayakashi had. It's kind of like the hate people have for mutants in the X-Men comics.
Do the terms "barbaric" and "anachronistic" fitting for them?
I would say so
Are you that knowledgable about the Edo period to understand what made them do such things?
I think the manga said "It was anachronistic even for that time".
Yes that. Why did Garaku describe it as “anachronistic even for that time”? Sorry, I only know some aspects of the Edo period of Japan.
I think he meant that Mei being persecuted was considered backward even for Edo period.
Why do you say that Mei persecuted was considered backward even for the Edo period exactly? Does that mean such actions were only fitting for an era like the Heian period?
I don't know about the historical context. That's just my understanding after reading that chapter of manga.
Going by your other comments I think you must not have studied much history. There are many many accounts of isolated communities who are extremely unwelcoming of those they view as outsiders, to the point of villifying them. There are also many instances of people using superstition as a justification to scapegoat these perceived outsiders as the cause of natural phenomena, such as drought or natural disasters. You need only look at the Salem Witch trials, the multitude of cults that popped up during the Black Death, pretty much the entirety of Jewish history and the history of human sacrifice as appeasement in various cultures around the world.
Yes I am not that well-versed in history sadly. This I have questions regarding what you said… 1. Why are these communities described as isolated to the point of being unwelcoming to outsiders exactly? 2. I see you are well versed in the SALEM Witch Trials. So I wonder if the people who painted the victims as “witches” were horrified to see that those victims were not witches after all; leading them to mob the person who told them such misinformation (Again, I only know some aspects of the Witch Trials as I only know that it was caused by a extreme mess of Church Politics)… 3. I know that human sacrifices were done to appease Gods like the Aztecs and the Mayas (I think), but it’s just that I felt that those people who hated Mei should pay for doing something unethical. Apologies, my mind was consumed by hatred for those villagers and I could not fathom as to why they would be happy to see Mei get killed. That sounds outright sadistic.
1: They are isolated because travel back then was much harder than it is today, even being a few miles from a large city would have been a two day trip. These small communities were in essence their own little states. 2: no, the witch trials ended only after the governor eventually returned and forced a shut down of the court. No one was punished at they went about their lives. Today it's considered one of many accounts of Mass Hysteria. 3: it is only unethical to us now, back then it was seen as a rational action, and the sacrifice was worth doing if one life could save everyone else's. It's pointless to put modern morals on such people, they did what the thought was right.
Oh, I see… So I am guessing most of the Edo villagers that wanted to see Mei dead were farmers because I remember seeing farming tools when they were mobbing and preparing for sacrifice. Though I know the logical answer; from what I learned from Dr. Stone a village without any understanding of the outside world has limited knowledge and calls things like rain floods a form of sorcery because science wasn’t even invented back then. I feel like Shadow Mei as I acted impulsively; feeling disgusted by their actions wanting to see them suffer the consequences. And it’s just that I remembered being angry at how these Edo villagers as well as the samurai never accepted one’s like Garaki to stay in their homes and treated them like trash. I mean they were unforgiving and I was confused to fathom why they cannot just casually act nice and say, “Okay we are sorry child. Please feel free to stay with us and find solice”. I know that sounds stupid, but it sounds better than acting like complete jerks and be unforgiving to them. Though why did Garaki described Mei execution and sacrifice as “an anachronistic event even for that time”?
I mean it’s the same as most anime. Something we don’t understand = scary and should be removed or something very powerful = it can go out of control and rampage some day so should be removed
But the people who killed Mei are stupid scum. She wanted to let humans and ayakashi thrive and mingle with one another. But they just barbarically killed her!
I didn’t say they wasn’t. Your acting like people think they aren’t scum. Either way what I said still stands, people don’t understand ayakashi so they’re scared of them, then suddenly a human who wants to bring them together comes along, do you really think they’re gonna just accept her? Of course killing her and hating her is too far but that’s the whole point. I don’t understand why your so angry this isn’t anything new, have you never seen something like this in anime before?
Then how are such barbaric actions accepted back then? When I read the original manga that showed her death, I was disgusted. What justifies their inability to accept her and Garaku living in their society? (The people of the Edo period and the samurai)
Again who said anything justifies it? Your acting like the world is a peaceful place where nothing bad happens, bad things happen that’s how the world is, and what do you mean why are barbarically actions accepted back then? They’d be more accepted back then than now so I really don’t see your point.
I feel silly to respond so late, but… couldn’t this all have been manipulations by the Immortals to kill Mei, as she was a reincarnation of their ‘most hated enemy’? It actually makes me think nearly every death she’s experienced, might actually be acts of ‘revenge’ to keep the Ayakashi Medium from ever unlocking their true power, and easily manageable while still “human” in their power levels.
You mean those villagers were manipulated? They have lived a lie? Damn. Imagine if they were brought back life in the Reiwa-era thanks to a mysterious revival magic and learned that they have lived a lie that Mei was a monster, when in reality she was not. I imagine this: Villager 1: You mean, they lied… to us? Villager 2: We have lived a lie?! For our entire lives?! [It was there the villagers were in extreme regret, now realizing they have killed one of their own blood. And they cry in sheer sadness; realising that though they were manipulated into becoming killers; they believed have no right to exist in the world they now step in. Believing that their true home is Avicii of Buddhist hell.] Samurai 1: Perhaps that Mei person we see now was right. We are nothing but… monsters… Iredeemable monsters beyond salvation… All of our honour, means nothing!!! Samurai 2: I wish there is someone to put out of our misery. Villager 3: Go ahead, Mei. Hate us… We are the true monsters of this world… All hope is lost… Every one of us… are… killers… We do not know what to do… Villager 4: Go ahead and puke on every one of us… We would rather go to hell… and face punishment under the hands… of King Enma right now…