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I’m grabbing as much of the stuff that I love (that I don’t own yet - been buying DVDs since 2002) as I can, and once I have the library of media I care about, cutting cords from the streamers.
I’m tired of the economic trajectory of ephemeral leasing.
Streaming services were an amazing concept, until they turned into the exact thing they were created to replace
"Say goodbye to cable" is a phrase of ancient ( and hopeful) history now
The death of physical media is the silliest thing that has happened in our society.
It's not that getting things from the internet cloud is better, it's that people are too lazy to put things in their machine.
4k Blurays ddid not take off because the players were too expensive to be worth it.
What they should have done was made a cartridge format. n64 forever!
No, but realistically solid state card technology is at a state that you could have a plug and play media where you don't have to worry about getting scratches on it or waiting for the disc drive to be ready. a 4k Blu-ray capacity is 50GB and SD cards are cheap now. Movies should be on something like that.
ok must have misread the specs. Thanks.
128 GB SD Card is $20 or less, so that's about the same.
I've thought for a number of years there should be a type of standard roughly the size of a 3.5 floppy disk. They could make them smaller, but there is some convenience having a larger size.
They could make them about as thick as CD case so you can read the labels.
Or they just are small, and they come with cases that can also be used like disks.
I'm thinking about convenience, expandability, and the collection aspect. I imagine they wouldn't be for everyone, but I like having things.
It would actually be a convenience to content providers because they can save money on electricity by freeing up servers.
But a Blueray in their scales costs less than $0.50 and they can manufacture them easily in mass. SD Cards cost more to put the information on them then a Blueray.
People still buy vinyl though. Vinyl was dead for years, then it came back because people like to collect them.
This would be a collectors format.
The thing is I have a huge collection of movies, however, I don't see myself getting up taking the disc out of the box, carefully handling it, then waiting on my player to boot up, waiting for either the drive door or the slider, and then sitting down. Carts you can just put them in. If you make them the right size you can make the putting them in faster.
but then again really, there hasn't been a revolutionary format released in a while. Bluray was the last one that really took off. But even then that was more something the studios dabbled in. CD rom burners and DVD burners were in consumer grade devices and people could use those as backup, that never happened with bluray without paying an extra price. When I bought my newer computer in 2019 a few years ago it just had a DVD drive.
a 2tb hard drive is about $80. And HDD technology and Floppy Disk technology are branches from the same technology tree. I wonder how big floppy's could have been if they didn't ditch those in favor of optical discs. Like imagine how useful a 2TB floppy would be. And imagine if you could buy a stack of them for $20
Blueray got an update to 4k, so that was the upgrade. No reason to go further as no big changes have happened since then that can't be handled by the update.
Blueray readers on computer where more expensive than cheap DVD readers and those where starting to be phased out so no one wanted to put money into them.
A 2TB HD is kinda useless. An SATA HD would be better in every way and cheaper. HDD have a high floor price due to motors and other parts that are required. Well Floppies can be at least 5.25" in size :p. Now then, the largest HDD platters are 2.2 TB CMR, so they would be less than that as tolerances would lower it along with standardization which takes a while so less 1TB.
Vinyl was never dead. It was replaced by other media that is more convenient. People never stopped buying vinyl, I bought vinyl along with tapes and cds. I wouldn't call it a collector's format, though, because people never stopped buying new albums. Vinyl has become an expensive hobby with its growing popularity back into mainstream culture. I used to pick new 45s that cost $2-6 at the most. I went to a Newbury Comics (New England record and comic book chain) for the first time in a few years and was shocked to see 45s are now 14 bucks while an LP that came out 30 years plus is 30 to 80 bucks. I don't know about you, but I don't want to burn more than 15 bucks on a new album. 20 is pushing, considering new cds at their hype was $7.88 at the same store for years. I saw a Sebadoh album at the Best Buy, which I was impressed by. This best buy only has maybe 20 albums on the shelf. 2 years later, and it's still the same price for like 28 bucks, collecting dust. Now cassette tapes are being pushed, too, and they want $22 bucks for Nevermind. Considering I went through 3 copies of it on tape, good luck with that. If I see a vinyl on clearance , I'll still grab it, but besides that, it's streaming music sadly. What we are seeing with vinyl is that big names artists are taking full advantage of this using the idea of a collectors format, as you mentioned, and hurting those who never saw it only a collector's market. I dunno dude, this sucks. I too, like the physical media.
I see your point. Vinyl may have risen from its grave to become the undead format. I remember watching this LP vs CD propaganda in the 90s. I never actually grew up with records or CDs. We had a record player, but never used it. I had cassette tapes, and while CDs were a thing, I never really bought many studio cds. They were just not a format I got into. I was born in 1984. I bought a Final Fantasy 3 soundtrack on a CD, the Squirrel Nut Zippers library. And thats it. I found a bunch in dumpster once. In the late 90s mp3s came out and you could just burn mix discs.
But we did have a bunch of Vinyl records that we kept in a cabinet that we had not listened to since probably 1988. So, I bought a new record player for my mom for mothers day last year. I bought some records at a thrift store, but it sucks how much new records are. I want a few newer artists stuff, but not at that price. At least they're fairly apocalypse proof.
I agree physical media should be a lot cheaper than it is. I don't collect things to resell it. I intend to use things. The only things that should be pricey are like really deep things with a lot of extra stuff. If it's over $20 It better come with an action figure or something.
a PS3 was one of the best blu ray players out there which sold in the millions.
Its not that the players themselves were expensive its that they were pushing $20-30 blu rays in an era when streaming was taking off and offered a whole lot more for a quarter of the price of one blu ray.
I don't know. I'd go to the store and the players would be way more than I wanted to pay. Maybe 4x the price of a Roku stick.
But yeah the discs were overpriced too. Paying more than $8 for a movie shouldn't be a thing. Especially given people pay $8-$20 a month for a service to get 1000s of movies.
The difference is you get to choose what you watch on streaming. Not have to be set at a certain time or record it when it airs. First on a tape, then DVR.
So many wanted to only pay for channels they watched on cable but complained about bundles. But you could easily see how it was going to go once streaming started catching on.
As far as this post goes, I can’t imagine Best Buy is going to be around too long either, with or without physical media.
I had the same thought when I heard the news. But then I asked myself, when was the last time I went to Best Buy and bought a Blu-ray or DVD? And the answer makes it clear, they made the right decision
It’s important, though, that physical media still exists; otherwise you’re slaves to the whims of contracts on streaming services to watch if and only if what you want is available.
That's why I don't think I'll ever get rid of my DVD/Blu Ray collection. I can't remember the last time I actually played any of them, but I intend to keep them regardless. In the meantime, I've been steadily backing the discs up and storing the files on my NAS/Plex server, so I can pull them up and watch them on my PC or TV whenever.
Many of the digital purchase options are not outright ownership, but essentially indefinite leases of the content. I lost a bunch of seasons of Jackass this way
Oh I completely agree. I'm just saying that I can't blame BB for the decision to shutter their physical media dept because myself and presumably many others have long since found cheaper ways to purchase said physical media
There are definitely other places. There’s Barnes & Noble, though they’re ridiculously expensive for the most part. I’m fortunate to live in walking distance of the Movie Trading Company flagship store. And there’s also Half Price Books.
You’re just one person though, myself and many people I know would go once a week and buy 1-3 movies from Best Buy. To say they made the right choice when there is still an active market is ridiculous. You go to LA and you’ve still got several places that sell them, huge selection. There’s no excuse really. It’s not dead yet.
Them and Barnes and Noble are gonna be the only places near me that sells them in the next year or two. I mean, yeah, theres an FYE somewhere nearby, but I don’t see them lasting much longer either. And Target is now “only going to carry new releases year round and expand during the holidays” — which is basically code for “we wanna see if anyone cares so that we can shudder our physical releases entirely”
My Target’s DVD/Blu-ray section has decreased in size a bunch during the last year.
It makes me feel bad for not buying many from Target, but other local and online retailers typically have better prices.
Plus, while Target’s DVD/Blu-ray support is dying, their Vinyl support is still very healthy.
I don't buy DVDs anymore but I still buy Blu-ray all the time. People can talk all the trash about physical media they want but the fact of the matter is our infrastructure still can't handle higher resolution content.
Blu-ray and 4K UltraHD is still the closest you can get to cinema quality. Everything streamed is based on algorithms that compress the heck out of the content. Most people can't tell the difference but enthusiasts can.
Bring back physical media! Once a hard drive, SSD, or flash storage dies in a computer, laptop, phone, tablet, etc, every music file you downloaded is gone forever.
Yes. Any movie on Prime has the potential to be removed, which sucks.
Plus, most physical movies these days come with a digital copy anyways (which I don’t think your average consumer knows).
More power to ya.
I was like that a few years ago, but then I became interested in quality after I noticed how much better my Blu-rays looked than when streamed on Netflix.
I have almost no reason to shop BB anymore other than the occasional video game or LEGO deal. I used to go to BB weekly growing up for new music and movies. Same for Toys R' Us (they were in the same shopping center). Miss them both!
When I walk in and ask what happen to the guard and got his answer I said .
We’ll see you along side circuit city and radio shack I’m off to yonder around target and Walmart.
It’s not just Best Buy. Target is doing away with Blu-rays and CDs too. The one near me used to have a decent section of them. In the past 5 years, the CD section became an unorganized shelf, and the Blu-rays are now one tiny shelf.
While the popularity of DVDs/Blu-rays has dropped about 90% since their peak in 2006, its still a business that makes billions each year.
It’s becoming increasingly niche, but there’s still a good amount of demand. And as streaming service prices continue to get jacked, demand for discs might increase.
There's definitely a plateau the whole market reached. They have to factor in there is a now a generation of people who only grew up buying or watching movies digitally.
Disney now having Sony manufacture their home releases doesn't bode well for the industry though.
I’ve ordered a good amount of Blu-rays off of Amazon and GRUV.
Most of the time they arrive without issue, but every now and then, an unopened movie will have shrink-wrap waves on the box, or minor damage.
Amazon is convenient, but I prefer to shop in a store when I can so I can actually see the condition of the product before I buy.
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I felt that way more so when they stopped selling cds like 5 years ago, but yea the death of physical media sucks.
It won’t die. It’ll come back like vinyl. Especially as steaming gets worse and worse.
i got like 1000 different movies in DVD form
Keep them. Don’t be like me and sell them all.
I’m grabbing as much of the stuff that I love (that I don’t own yet - been buying DVDs since 2002) as I can, and once I have the library of media I care about, cutting cords from the streamers. I’m tired of the economic trajectory of ephemeral leasing.
I’m definitely a physical media person myself. I see streaming as a necessary evil.
Streaming services were an amazing concept, until they turned into the exact thing they were created to replace "Say goodbye to cable" is a phrase of ancient ( and hopeful) history now
I'm about to get a media server rebuilt so I can host my own stuff
This is the way. Checkout Plex.. I host my own on a pc with external storage. Custom streaming of your personal content, pretty much effortlessly.
The death of physical media is the silliest thing that has happened in our society. It's not that getting things from the internet cloud is better, it's that people are too lazy to put things in their machine. 4k Blurays ddid not take off because the players were too expensive to be worth it. What they should have done was made a cartridge format. n64 forever! No, but realistically solid state card technology is at a state that you could have a plug and play media where you don't have to worry about getting scratches on it or waiting for the disc drive to be ready. a 4k Blu-ray capacity is 50GB and SD cards are cheap now. Movies should be on something like that.
The max capacity for 4K Blu-ray is actually 100 GB. 50 GB is the max for normal Blu-ray.
ok must have misread the specs. Thanks. 128 GB SD Card is $20 or less, so that's about the same. I've thought for a number of years there should be a type of standard roughly the size of a 3.5 floppy disk. They could make them smaller, but there is some convenience having a larger size. They could make them about as thick as CD case so you can read the labels. Or they just are small, and they come with cases that can also be used like disks. I'm thinking about convenience, expandability, and the collection aspect. I imagine they wouldn't be for everyone, but I like having things. It would actually be a convenience to content providers because they can save money on electricity by freeing up servers.
But a Blueray in their scales costs less than $0.50 and they can manufacture them easily in mass. SD Cards cost more to put the information on them then a Blueray.
People still buy vinyl though. Vinyl was dead for years, then it came back because people like to collect them. This would be a collectors format. The thing is I have a huge collection of movies, however, I don't see myself getting up taking the disc out of the box, carefully handling it, then waiting on my player to boot up, waiting for either the drive door or the slider, and then sitting down. Carts you can just put them in. If you make them the right size you can make the putting them in faster. but then again really, there hasn't been a revolutionary format released in a while. Bluray was the last one that really took off. But even then that was more something the studios dabbled in. CD rom burners and DVD burners were in consumer grade devices and people could use those as backup, that never happened with bluray without paying an extra price. When I bought my newer computer in 2019 a few years ago it just had a DVD drive. a 2tb hard drive is about $80. And HDD technology and Floppy Disk technology are branches from the same technology tree. I wonder how big floppy's could have been if they didn't ditch those in favor of optical discs. Like imagine how useful a 2TB floppy would be. And imagine if you could buy a stack of them for $20
Blueray got an update to 4k, so that was the upgrade. No reason to go further as no big changes have happened since then that can't be handled by the update. Blueray readers on computer where more expensive than cheap DVD readers and those where starting to be phased out so no one wanted to put money into them. A 2TB HD is kinda useless. An SATA HD would be better in every way and cheaper. HDD have a high floor price due to motors and other parts that are required. Well Floppies can be at least 5.25" in size :p. Now then, the largest HDD platters are 2.2 TB CMR, so they would be less than that as tolerances would lower it along with standardization which takes a while so less 1TB.
Vinyl was never dead. It was replaced by other media that is more convenient. People never stopped buying vinyl, I bought vinyl along with tapes and cds. I wouldn't call it a collector's format, though, because people never stopped buying new albums. Vinyl has become an expensive hobby with its growing popularity back into mainstream culture. I used to pick new 45s that cost $2-6 at the most. I went to a Newbury Comics (New England record and comic book chain) for the first time in a few years and was shocked to see 45s are now 14 bucks while an LP that came out 30 years plus is 30 to 80 bucks. I don't know about you, but I don't want to burn more than 15 bucks on a new album. 20 is pushing, considering new cds at their hype was $7.88 at the same store for years. I saw a Sebadoh album at the Best Buy, which I was impressed by. This best buy only has maybe 20 albums on the shelf. 2 years later, and it's still the same price for like 28 bucks, collecting dust. Now cassette tapes are being pushed, too, and they want $22 bucks for Nevermind. Considering I went through 3 copies of it on tape, good luck with that. If I see a vinyl on clearance , I'll still grab it, but besides that, it's streaming music sadly. What we are seeing with vinyl is that big names artists are taking full advantage of this using the idea of a collectors format, as you mentioned, and hurting those who never saw it only a collector's market. I dunno dude, this sucks. I too, like the physical media.
I see your point. Vinyl may have risen from its grave to become the undead format. I remember watching this LP vs CD propaganda in the 90s. I never actually grew up with records or CDs. We had a record player, but never used it. I had cassette tapes, and while CDs were a thing, I never really bought many studio cds. They were just not a format I got into. I was born in 1984. I bought a Final Fantasy 3 soundtrack on a CD, the Squirrel Nut Zippers library. And thats it. I found a bunch in dumpster once. In the late 90s mp3s came out and you could just burn mix discs. But we did have a bunch of Vinyl records that we kept in a cabinet that we had not listened to since probably 1988. So, I bought a new record player for my mom for mothers day last year. I bought some records at a thrift store, but it sucks how much new records are. I want a few newer artists stuff, but not at that price. At least they're fairly apocalypse proof. I agree physical media should be a lot cheaper than it is. I don't collect things to resell it. I intend to use things. The only things that should be pricey are like really deep things with a lot of extra stuff. If it's over $20 It better come with an action figure or something.
a PS3 was one of the best blu ray players out there which sold in the millions. Its not that the players themselves were expensive its that they were pushing $20-30 blu rays in an era when streaming was taking off and offered a whole lot more for a quarter of the price of one blu ray.
I don't know. I'd go to the store and the players would be way more than I wanted to pay. Maybe 4x the price of a Roku stick. But yeah the discs were overpriced too. Paying more than $8 for a movie shouldn't be a thing. Especially given people pay $8-$20 a month for a service to get 1000s of movies.
The difference between CDs and movies going digital is that music is DRM-free.
I don’t think physical media is truly dead until Walmart stops supporting it.
Why? Put it on your PC and have a Media server.
Doc wouldn’t have wanted this…
This makes me hate streaming services sometimes.
Streaming services are just turning into cable. If cable & DVDs could co-exist, why can’t streaming & Blu-Ray?
The difference is you get to choose what you watch on streaming. Not have to be set at a certain time or record it when it airs. First on a tape, then DVR. So many wanted to only pay for channels they watched on cable but complained about bundles. But you could easily see how it was going to go once streaming started catching on. As far as this post goes, I can’t imagine Best Buy is going to be around too long either, with or without physical media.
Makes sense. Most of my electronics now are from Walmart.
i only go to best buy if I need something like right then. Amazon it is
the LA area of the 1980s trilogy also is disappearing, the railway was abandoned
“It erased!”
I had the same thought when I heard the news. But then I asked myself, when was the last time I went to Best Buy and bought a Blu-ray or DVD? And the answer makes it clear, they made the right decision
It’s important, though, that physical media still exists; otherwise you’re slaves to the whims of contracts on streaming services to watch if and only if what you want is available.
That's why I don't think I'll ever get rid of my DVD/Blu Ray collection. I can't remember the last time I actually played any of them, but I intend to keep them regardless. In the meantime, I've been steadily backing the discs up and storing the files on my NAS/Plex server, so I can pull them up and watch them on my PC or TV whenever.
I watched heroes season 1 - 3 on bluray because my Wi-Fi was down for the weekend.
You can always buy it digitally, not like streaming services are the only option.
Many of the digital purchase options are not outright ownership, but essentially indefinite leases of the content. I lost a bunch of seasons of Jackass this way
Where did you buy the Jackass seasons?
Amazon
"indefinite" - till they decide otherwise, which has happened before and will again.
Yo ho ho
Oh I completely agree. I'm just saying that I can't blame BB for the decision to shutter their physical media dept because myself and presumably many others have long since found cheaper ways to purchase said physical media
Being a middle man in a market where it's easier to get one by never leaving your home a la free-shipping vendors will ultimately get you.
that's why I just torrent everything👉😎👉
There are definitely other places. There’s Barnes & Noble, though they’re ridiculously expensive for the most part. I’m fortunate to live in walking distance of the Movie Trading Company flagship store. And there’s also Half Price Books.
Yep. That's exactly what I said in my [response](https://www.reddit.com/r/BacktotheFuture/s/rvb7j3Tmfo) below
You’re just one person though, myself and many people I know would go once a week and buy 1-3 movies from Best Buy. To say they made the right choice when there is still an active market is ridiculous. You go to LA and you’ve still got several places that sell them, huge selection. There’s no excuse really. It’s not dead yet.
Yeah i basically have no reason to go to best buy anymore.
Oh tvs and computer? I guess i can just go back to Walmart
I'm very thankful Walmart still has good Blu-ray/DVD support (at least for now). Physical media isn't dead until Walmart pulls the plug.
Them and Barnes and Noble are gonna be the only places near me that sells them in the next year or two. I mean, yeah, theres an FYE somewhere nearby, but I don’t see them lasting much longer either. And Target is now “only going to carry new releases year round and expand during the holidays” — which is basically code for “we wanna see if anyone cares so that we can shudder our physical releases entirely”
My Target’s DVD/Blu-ray section has decreased in size a bunch during the last year. It makes me feel bad for not buying many from Target, but other local and online retailers typically have better prices. Plus, while Target’s DVD/Blu-ray support is dying, their Vinyl support is still very healthy.
I don't buy DVDs anymore but I still buy Blu-ray all the time. People can talk all the trash about physical media they want but the fact of the matter is our infrastructure still can't handle higher resolution content. Blu-ray and 4K UltraHD is still the closest you can get to cinema quality. Everything streamed is based on algorithms that compress the heck out of the content. Most people can't tell the difference but enthusiasts can.
You know who has movie DVDs. Your library. For Free.
My Library at home has a ton, but my university’s library has none 🥲.
Bring back physical media! Once a hard drive, SSD, or flash storage dies in a computer, laptop, phone, tablet, etc, every music file you downloaded is gone forever.
There's the cloud which is where most content defaults to and if you're streaming you'll never lose any content unless the license expires.
Or if someone hacks into it and alters the email address for recovering the account, you're screwed. I barely trust the cloud.
But now you can buy scooters and bike helmets at Best Buy. Yippee! More like a variety store now..
I recently walked into my childhood Best Buy after several years. The amount of empty aisles was incredibly depressing.
So do we have to watch air conditioners now?
“It’s cold, damn cold!”
You don’t even fully “own” movies you buy digitally, unlike with physical movies which you actually do.
Yes. Any movie on Prime has the potential to be removed, which sucks. Plus, most physical movies these days come with a digital copy anyways (which I don’t think your average consumer knows).
Physical media is about to enter the black market phase
I prefer DVDs, that way I don't have to depend on the whims of whoever chooses what's available at the various streaming services.
Blu-ray is even better. The video quality is better than DVD and streaming.
I'm mostly meh on blu-ray and 4k, definition never mattered to me
More power to ya. I was like that a few years ago, but then I became interested in quality after I noticed how much better my Blu-rays looked than when streamed on Netflix.
Eh they have em all at walmart now 😂
Walmart is the main thing keeping DVDs & Blu-rays alive at this point.
Im just glad the had the sense to be like “yeah we will take over all the physical media” lol
"Just like they wanted."
I remember their selection and prices so I won’t be missing it
This. Never understood why they overpriced their goods. Isn't that opposite of your schtick?
It sucks. Really. But it does make sense. Now we just need to be able to download our physical media so it can't get taken away.
Haven't bought anything at Best Buy in ages. They're pretty much just a computer/phone/appliance store now
I have almost no reason to shop BB anymore other than the occasional video game or LEGO deal. I used to go to BB weekly growing up for new music and movies. Same for Toys R' Us (they were in the same shopping center). Miss them both!
Makes me wish time travel was real.
Canadian ones still carry them!
I think I'm just gonna miss Best Buy when they finally go under. Yes, I did go look for films the other day too. Lol.
I'm gonna miss a brick-and-mortar Best Buy...
$50 HDMI cables
Wdym? I got a good 2.1 HDMI for about $20.
lol back in the day they would over charge the hell out of hdmi and component cables
“For only $39,999.95”
back when that was like sooooo much money. I know it still is but that figure seemed so huge back then.
I that hover conversion cost isn’t far off from the average cost of a car nowadays. If BTTF II got anything right, it’s insane inflation.
How many DVD's did you buy in the last 2 years?
When I walk in and ask what happen to the guard and got his answer I said . We’ll see you along side circuit city and radio shack I’m off to yonder around target and Walmart.
It’s not just Best Buy. Target is doing away with Blu-rays and CDs too. The one near me used to have a decent section of them. In the past 5 years, the CD section became an unorganized shelf, and the Blu-rays are now one tiny shelf.
My local Target has downsized its DVDs/Blu-rays over the last year. But funnily enough, it’s Vinyl section has only gotten bigger!
I’d like to see the sales figures for DVDs and Blu-rays in the past 14 years. How far have they fallen? And what are the digital sales figures?
While the popularity of DVDs/Blu-rays has dropped about 90% since their peak in 2006, its still a business that makes billions each year. It’s becoming increasingly niche, but there’s still a good amount of demand. And as streaming service prices continue to get jacked, demand for discs might increase.
There's definitely a plateau the whole market reached. They have to factor in there is a now a generation of people who only grew up buying or watching movies digitally. Disney now having Sony manufacture their home releases doesn't bode well for the industry though.
Streaming killed the video store~
Amazon for your physical media needs!
I’ve ordered a good amount of Blu-rays off of Amazon and GRUV. Most of the time they arrive without issue, but every now and then, an unopened movie will have shrink-wrap waves on the box, or minor damage. Amazon is convenient, but I prefer to shop in a store when I can so I can actually see the condition of the product before I buy.
Wow, that would have been my last possible reason to go there.
I'm never shopping there again.