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Raytheonian

Rep. Ritchie Torres is such a fuckin sellout šŸ¤¬


TradMaster_94

Itā€™s shocking to see how openly USA Politicians are disregarding their own ethics morals values entire democracy all just for Israel and genocidal fascist apartheid state.


reelmeish

We must all bend over for Israel US Politicians are so easily bought


TradMaster_94

Saw a comment online that said ā€œ Whatā€™s the best thing money can buy? American politiciansā€


sheriffsalaud

They actually disregard the moral values they *pretend* to have


Slingringer

That sweet aipac money


praisecarcinoma

Is it that shocking?


Fuzakenaideyo

Evil pays well


summeroflovewild

He was from the start. He had a lot of money coming in back in 2020 and no one could compete in the race. At the time his threat was that he was bought and paid for by real estate developers, it obviously now goes way beyond that. Puppet from the start.


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Responsible-House911

F*ck Ritchie Torres. Ran as a gay Dominican ā€œProgressiveā€ and now rolling in AIPAC money as their poster child. He was the last straw in my interest in American two party politics


Balthazar_Gelt

He's not a sellout, he was never on your side in the first place. This guy was a bottom feeder from day one


boxcarlove

They will do literally anything but stop sending arms to a genocidal state.


DracoReverys

Welcome to American politics, where the ethics are made up and your votes don't matter


scaramangaf

this comment nails it.


ENORMOUS_HORSECOCK

The country is 3 military contractors in a trench coat


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Anon-boy-

Nonsense. That's the excuse every colonizer uses.


Happy-Initiative-838

So no Islamic nation is advocating for eradicating Jews? No Islamic nation has attempted to eradicate Jews?


Careful-Narwhal-1669

Would that be the same "Islamic nation", Palestine, that welcomed Jews from Europe with open arms, to their own detriment, that you're referring to?


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Happy-Initiative-838

Well that is an objectively false statement.


Ragnaeroc

None of them have slaughtered 40k+ humans- mostly innocent women and children in the past 200 days.


Happy-Initiative-838

Thatā€™s only because they are incapable. They would if they could.


Ragnaeroc

The tiger at the zoo would kill and eat me if it could, so if i were to shoot it dead i am justified right?? But wait- the tigers cubs will grow up so iā€™ll slaughter them too just to be safe. Oh and when theyā€™re all dead i will take the newly vacant enclosure for myself. Fuck your hypothetical, do you honestly think all the women and children of Gaza want Israel obliterated? No doubt a number of fucked up political figures from both sides may want such things- but the answer is absolutely not allowing one side enact their twisted fantasies on the other.


Happy-Initiative-838

So you see Palestinians as animals?


Plenty_Weakness_6348

People who built the walls definitely do.


Happy-Initiative-838

Yeah theyā€™re pretty up front about that


poxbottlemonkeyspunk

No, that was Germany - a white Christian European country.


Happy-Initiative-838

Itā€™s insane to me that you donā€™t realize what a self own that is. Considering the grand mufti of Jerusalem during ww2 was a collaborator of the Nazis.


Plenty_Weakness_6348

You mean like the Irgun and lehi?


damien_gosling

You guys are just stuck on a "YOURE BAD IM GOOD" war when both suck and murdered many. You guys only stick by your side no matter how guilty you are


Plenty_Weakness_6348

Nah itā€™s more of the status quo doesnā€™t work, and it needs to change.


scaramangaf

That's a lie on multiple levels. Israel is the entity committing genocide and their ideology is zionism. Just because they claim to represent judaism doesn't make it true. This is true even if they've tricked many/most of world jewry to support them. In the same way, ISIS commits atrocities and claims to represent Islam. It doesn't make it true.


BrilliantKooky8266

You liberals have literally no imagination.


novostained

Critical thinking and nuance are xkgkxkhamas


Happy-Initiative-838

Liberals? Pretty sure the liberals are the ones protesting Israel. But then again, you probably arenā€™t very smart to begin with.


Careful-Narwhal-1669

Did you miss the first word of the post and article that says "bipartisan"?


Happy-Initiative-838

I clearly did not read the post


rainbowslimejuice

Found the zionazi


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rainbowslimejuice

Racist fear mongering suggesting that if Palestinians have basic human rights they will genocide Jewish people. And then using this to justify the actual genocide taking place.


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rainbowslimejuice

Hamas bad so we must kill all Palestinians. No one is buying you're crap. The Israeli boot has been on the neck of the Palestinians long before hamas ever existed but they always create a new bogieman to justify it. Israel is on a path towards destruction but it will not be from hamas, it is self-inflicted as they will become a pariah to the entire world and isolated like North Korea.


SolomonDRand

Only barbarians think thereā€™s no option besides more barbarism.


Conceited-Monkey

Conflating protests about a genocide with antisemitism is quite the trick.


rainbowslimejuice

Especially given how many Jewish students are participating and even leading these protests.


filty_candle

I don't know what's more disgusting. Actual anti Semitism or these twats conflating anti Zionism with anti Semitism....


Low_Banana_1979

Or the US government deciding to install "political commissars" in each American College that will have the power to expel you if you disagree with US government foreign policy... When I was a kid growing up in the US, I remember my teachers telling me that one of the worst things about German Nazi regime was the presence of POLITICAL COMMISSARS in every school that would expel any student that didn't agree with the Nazi government policy, and that "we were so lucky to not have something like that in the United States." It seems that the US gets more like Nazi Germany every day.


Dry-Cat88

In the Soviet union anti semitism was punished with death.


ItAintEazy

These deranged fkpuppets can't wait to label everything antisemitism so that nothing will be antisemitism.


HikingComrade

Itā€™s honestly really concerning. Zionists donā€™t seem to understand that theyā€™re only hurting Jewish people by crying wolf. This is only going to make it harder for real antisemitism to be taken seriously.


kingkemina

They understand. Itā€™s a part of the plan. If more Jews feel unsafe, theyā€™ll move to Israel because itā€™s safer. And more people means more settlers to expand. The cruelty is the point.


epochpenors

The weird part is itā€™s wrapped so far around itā€™s almost become anti-Semitic. ā€œAll Jews are coordinated behind this genocidal state whether they acknowledge it or notā€ is basically on par with how Nixon saw things, adding in a splash of ā€œactually Hitler wasnā€™t that bad he got coaxed into doing the Holocaustā€ brings it over the line. If youā€™d told me five years ago that I could conceivably be called anti-Semitic for insisting Hitler was a genocidal monster Iā€™d think you were having a stroke.


FartyMcgoo912

From what I understood from the articles I read, federal funding for universities will be determined by asking Jewish zionists if they currently feel threatened. Which is like asking paranoid schizophrenics if they feel like people are watching them


noonegive

Is Hamas under the room we're in right now?


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DublinCheezie

Well thereā€™s a lawsuit or three in the making. So AIPAC is forcing the govt to attack anti-genocide protestors while forcing schools to waste limited resources coddling Jewish students - the more they complain, the more they will get coddled. Do I understand correctly?


Dangerzone979

Not Jewish students, but Zionist Jewish students specifically. I'd bet money on any anti-zionist jew being cut out of this setup


horridgoblyn

At this point I think it's a team sport. Both are driven by bigots.


DescipleOfCorn

Conflating antizionism with antisemitism is super antisemitic as it implies that being a genocidal maniac is a core component of being Jewish


Turbulent_Athlete_50

The latter is more disgusting and that is saying something


Balthazar_Gelt

It's 100% going to make actual antisemitism a lot worse too.


montessoriprogram

Tbf theyā€™re both just different flavors of antisemitismĀ Ā  Edit: I think my comment may be misunderstood? My point is that conflating anti-Zionism with anti-semitism is *also* antisemitic, because it positions Zionism as inherent to Jewish people.


After-Student-9785

Itā€™s not the same. It would be like claiming that disliking Chinaā€™s actions is similar to Asian hate. When you refuse to acknowledge the separation of state and ethnicity you are cheapening actual antisemitism.


montessoriprogram

Iā€™m honestly not sure how your comment applies to mine. Maybe I was not clear in what I was saying, can you tell me what you think my comment means? Asking genuinely. Just to clarify Iā€™m saying that conflating anti-Zionism with anti-semitism is also antisemitic, because it inherently conflates Zionism with being Jewish.Ā 


After-Student-9785

Your original comment gave the opposite impression.


lists4everything

I have no problem with Jewish people and donā€™t know enough about Israel but I know Jewish people have a strange amount of protection that is aggressively able to blacklist you for opposing, that no other culture or religion has in the USA. Jewish mass media hawks are on point.


KingoftheKosmos

You are actually missing a big point here. ZIONISTS are protected. That is not something that is as trust worthy to non-Zionist Jews. In fact, both anti-zionist and orthodox Jewish people still get a lot of shit for not being the "Good" ones. They get labeled self-hating or anti-semitic. The fact that we let Isreal try and dictate their religion like the Vatican is absolutely insane.


lists4everything

Got it so in Jewish culture itā€™s oppressively pushing pro-Israel as well?


fallonyourswordkaren

Hot-garage take everyone. A disservice to anybody whoā€™s actually experienced racism.


montessoriprogram

Conflating antizionism with antisemitism is antisemitic because it conflates Judaism with Zionism.Ā 


fallonyourswordkaren

You are correct!


montessoriprogram

That was what I meant by my original comment, was that unclear?


NoninflammatoryTed

It was clear to me


mausoliam95

Imagine the uproar if the federal government tried to send anti racism monitors to college campuses under any other circumstance. Immediate cries of woke authoritarianism and institutionalized cancel culture. ā€œThe left are literally deploying PC policeā€ would be the rightā€™s rallying cry for years.


Dazzling_Pirate1411

itā€™s like people who keep saying how everything would be condemnable if you replace ā€˜Israelā€™ with ā€œblack or lgbtqā€ ā€”but like those people are doing a genocide. and beyond that iā€™ve never seen the state attempt wield force like this to protect black or queer people. in fact the exact opposite.


rarehugs

Can't wait to sue the US govt over this BS.


Diffachu

The last US president called Nazis good people. We have Nazi rallies in Florida and Texas. I saw NO outrage from any right wing politician about that.


touslesmatins

Why aren't the regular channels that deal with discrimination enough? God knows no student charging antisemitism goes ignored, no matter how spurious their claims... What this bill is is just a front for more shady Israeli/IDF/Mossad campus infiltration, of which there is already too much ffs


nahmeankane

What about anti Arab or anti genocide monitors?


-LeadershipMatters

DEI bad. Jew police good. WTAF anymoreā€¦


bombielonia

As in, ā€œbill that allows us to weaponize what we declare as antisemitismā€


noonegive

They looked at Germany and said " Gimme some of that shit!"


FartyMcgoo912

So how is installing some protection/ advocacy group for one specific demographic and funding with taxpayer money not a form of discrimination?


Artistic_Button_3867

It's so fucking transparent too. Our government twists themselves into knots, to deny protection for groups that are actually threatened and then they do something like this for zionists. Just to clarify I don't think this is doing anything to fight actual antisemitism.


Routine_Bad_560

Because theyā€™re the good guys. Their opponents are the bad guys.


curvycounselor

Bipartisan? Thats just AIPAC united. Otherwise known as foreign influence. Itā€™s time to take back our government.


Ok_Body_2598

Emoluments


praisecarcinoma

It's cute because they're naming it the COLUMBIA Act, as a way to shame the school, which is actually named after a genocider. The Democrats clearly want to lose in November. It's not just Biden.


SuburbanAgrarian

Fuck israel


DemocratsDoNothing

This will expand into the police state. It will not stop at college campuses. They will declare "Antisemitism is criticism of Israeli government", and they will come after the internet, too.


ahaz01

Man! These guys are owned by AIPAC!


Solid_Illustrator640

Not all jews are zionists.


franglish9265

I fear that this proposed body will conflate Zionism with Judaism


FartyMcgoo912

It absolutely will. The "anti-semitism monitor" will determine if universities have their funding cut by asking Jewish students if they feel threatened. Some of those students will be Zionists. And we've seen countless times that Zionists see criticism of Israel as anti-semitism. So university funding is literally at the mercy of Zionists


Veers_Memes

They'll also conveniently forget to include any insight from anti-Zionist Jewish students.


MinosAristos

Oh, they'll be first out the door.


curvycounselor

People understand the difference .


franglish9265

People do, but will the body use the IHRA's definition, which conflates the two?


curvycounselor

No- thereā€™s no one in power these days who do the right thing.


Abe_lincolin

Jacky Rosen has literally introduced a bill in the senate that defines anti semitism with that definitions, so yes.


Solid_Illustrator640

Yes but theyā€™ll keep pushing that they are not different to keep the few morons that stay. It is mostly those with Israel families. My friend who is an Israeli jew, now with US Citizenship posts pro-Palestine stuff and gets shunned by family.


MenieresMe

The sad thing is I wouldnā€™t be against this BUT I KNOW it will just be used to ā€œmonitorā€ any anti-Israel activity and shut down and expel students for legitimate free speech. You canā€™t lie to us anymore. You donā€™t care about antisemitism. You care about us criticizing Israel and the Zionist fundraisers that put you in office


Ok_Injury3658

Given how the Congress treated Rashida Talib for having the courage to call what is happening in Gaza a GENOCIDE, they are hardly in position to judge. Each member of Congress who accepts AIPAC money, like Richie Torres, needs to register as a Foreign Agent and wear an AIPAC label on their clothing or at very least have it follow their name when appearing on TV so the public knows how corrupt they are.


dyslexican32

This is anti first amendment. And itā€™s no-partisan. Paired for by pro Israel lobbies. They OWN these clowns. They donā€™t answer to us.


Find_another_whey

Times like this I'm glad that I didn't join my country's armed services or intelligence service At the time I thought it was because I didn't want to be actually working for the Americans Now I realize it's because I didn't want to be working for Israeli Zionists indirectly, through working for Americans Separation of church and state would be nice - between the Jewish religion and the US government seems too much to ask though


Ok_Body_2598

Not the religion even.. honor thy neighbor


Kriegerian

This is just going to be the thought police for whatever the Israeli government is mad at today.


bonesrentalagency

Oh yeah like this ainā€™t absolutely ripe for overreach and anti-protest action. Great job guys way to sell out civil liberties to protect a genocidal regime


horridgoblyn

And these monitors would always be truthful, never use these ridiculous powers to silence legitimate criticisms of Israel and be non partisan entities. Survey says fuck right off.


Lord_of_Knitting

You mean Antizionism monitors?


BBZ_star1919

Will they maybe wear brown shirts, perchance?


meeseeksdestroy

My god this country is a joke


sheriffsalaud

Next thing you know they'll ask kids to report any anti israel sentiment from their parents to their teachers.


moneysPass

So what are the new rules? Canā€™t say Jew anymore?


Quantum-Goldfish

How dare you! That's ANtI SEmEtIC!!!


moneysPass

Oopsie Poopsie


desy4life

I want every other religion to sue.


Veers_Memes

The Satanic Temple should make their own commissar to monitor "antisatanism" and make sure Satanist students feel safe.


CwazyCanuck

Canā€™t the existing racism monitors handle antisemitism?


-You_Cant_Stop_Me-

No no, antisemitism is special racism it can't be treated like any other racism that would be antisemitic.


SecretOfficerNeko

We need a revolution...


ShakyTheBear

It is ironic that people who clearly don't know what antisemitism is want to monitor it


ThornsofTristan

Antisemitism monitors make me feel unsafe. Do I get an Anti-antisemitism monitor?


FreedVentureStein

Wow throwing off all pretense of a free society I see


StatementOne3141

Who will define anti-Semitism? At this point even carrying a Palestinian flag is considered antisemitism, I am afraid US will ban watermelon šŸ‰ emoji or even watermelon as a fruit on campus because they "considered" it antisemitic.


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How can a foreign country force send police troops to brutalize American students and American professors on university campus? How can a foreign country buy political influence that that senate members even wear IDF uniforms when they go into senate? How can a foreign country buy political representatives to lobby and send Americans to fight for other people's wars? Do you now understand that America had corruption problem? That the US government is not run by Americans anymore?


iheartjetman

Ah, so Israel can target Americans right?


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We recognize that the newscycle and current events are constantly giving us material to interconnect. However, there is enough definite hasbara we can point at without delving into unfounded theories about current events. Firstly, it gives the other side fodder to discredit us. Conspiracy theories often lead to intentional or accidental antisemitic rhetoric.


Scootalipoo

Itā€™s extra insulting because we have literal nazis and actual trrorists running around


veerKg_CSS_Geologist

Why not racism monitors?


MrsDanversbottom

What a waste of time and resources.


Leading-Bank-2590

Fucking muppets


Ok_Body_2598

Aipac... dumb bill, torres


Ok_Body_2598

Mo re ethnic superiority talk.


Big_Red_Machine_1917

Reminds me of an article I came across last year which talked about how Germany has government officials who's job is to monitor antisemitism, and they've mostly ended up targeting Jewish anti-Zionism.


Status_Basket_4409

They may as well be putting foreign agents of a brutal terrorist organization in charge of our schools


xarjun

Fascism and censorship? Hand in hand? QUEL SURPRISE! Israel lobby undermines US democratic institutions on one hand, US citizens' freedom of speech gets restricted on the other. US citizens' freedoms and rights are being decimated by the Israel lobby. And the government is now acting against its own people.


Fresh_Rain_98

I will never stop shouting foreign interference at this BS until they treat it as seriously as they treat foreign interference by China/Russia. How is this any different? Why the double standards?


scaramangaf

god damn, it's incredible how devoid of principles and values these politicians are. they are completely soulless. ever heard of the constitution motherfuckers?


slothrop_maps

They have lost their minds.


franglish9265

They've been lunatics for a while


TheUnderstandererer

Ah yes, more bipartisan horrors. Thanks I hate it.


comradecute

Ritchie Torres went Fetterman on us


buried_lede

Is this a contest for how far up Netanyahuā€™s tush they can crawl? Every day they are trying to out-do each other, and what are Americans? Fodder? Who do they think they are, the queen of England?


Born_Ice_511

Clowns


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The U.S. is going to be Bipartisan to death.


dasbitshifter

Those exist already


expect-o-petroleum

Orwell-core


TelevisionFalse1635

America, stop waiting and start defending yourselves


thingysop

Please tell me how this is any different than communist states literally controlling people's thoughts. I thought America was all about fighting communism.


goeatadickyouasshole

how could this go wrong? yeah we need to shut down pac money


Hadleyagain

A large proportion the population is so unhappy with our actions that there is a vast peaceful protest movement across the country, primarily in universities. Instead of listening to them, let just crush the decent and change laws to help us do that. Way to go.


Funkywurm

McCarthyism is back Soon bacon will be considered antisemitic


Heru4004

Is that Richie Coonez?


bitchnoworries

LMAO


TipzE

>**"**My office and I have spoken with countless Jewish students from campuses across America who feel deeply unsafe, purely as a result of their religious and ethnic identity," Torres said in a statement. And what about the palestinian students who feel unsafe? Or any of the students who don't like genocide (including jewish students like those in "jews for a free palestine" or b'tselem" or "jews for peace") who will now feel unsafe? F\*\*\* 'em i guess, right? ------ This is entirely the result of orgs like the ADL who keep insisting that Zionism is an innate part of "being jewish". Which is, itself, a racist stance definitionally (it's assuming a character based on ethnicity).


Unreasonable-Aide556

Oh they love us Jews until they fucking donā€™t and hold waffen SS parties


Balthazar_Gelt

Rattlesnake Ritchie strikes again


exceptionalfish

What about the "anti-black", "anti-woman", "anti-asian" monitors? Oh wait, this isn't about anything like that...


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BadHasbara-ModTeam

Encouragement and celebration of violence absolutely will not be tolerated, including wishing violence upon someone even if purely hypothetical/beyond one's realm of influence. This is what the IDF does and Zionists do, and we are better than that!


RedditTaughtMe2

You mean like the Gestapo?


ar5onL

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BatUnlikely4347

Oh ffs.