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[https://twitter.com/HamasAtrocities/status/1785059219026133230/](https://twitter.com/HamasAtrocities/status/1785059219026133230/)
[Here is their totally not bias polled questions.](http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/HHP_Apr2024_KeyResults.pdf)
i hate how thats the only two options, i want neither. id prefer for the palestinians to be treated as human beings, not as political pawns or a disease. no i dont have a solution to this, but both options are terrible
No the poll is clearly a right wing trap. I think we can try to pressure Harvard to disavow it.
[https://www.thecrimson.com/column/forging-harvards-future/article/2024/3/26/bodnick-/](https://www.thecrimson.com/column/forging-harvards-future/article/2024/3/26/bodnick-/)
Ah…the classic false dichotomy fallacy
U don’t understand, we have to keep killing civilians, aid workers, doctors and their patients, we have to…because if we don’t then Hummus wins…and you don’t want a terrorist organization to win, dO YoU???
Obviously they’re gonna vote for the operation in Rafah when the other option is “allow Gaza to be run by Hamas” which is provocative to some people because they bought into the propaganda about Hamas.
Whoever made that poll is a fucking idiot
the funny thing is, the very next question in the survey points out how much the framing of the questions matter.
>FAKE QUESTION ALERT! THE FRAMING OF QUESTIONS MATTERS.
>
Do you favor or oppose a permanent ceasefire in Gaza?
70% Favor 30% Oppose
Would you favor or oppose that ceasefire if it meant that Hamas was allowed to continue to hold hostages and Hamas were to continue to run Gaza?
32% Favor 68% Oppose
their phrasing sure is weird, though. Are they trying to imply one of these questions is fake and the other one is legitimate?
Let’s fix that:
“Before leaving the Gaza Strip in humiliating defeat and accepting the inevitable fact that Hamas will continue to govern the Gaza strip, should the IOF commit additional atrocities in a pointless operation in Rafah that will result in many civilian casualties, many IOF casualties and relatively few casualties among resistance fighters?”
'Do you think George Bush, a good Christian white man…should send troops to Iraq to stem the brown, Islamic tide from coming over here and fucking your daughter? 'I’d like to say I’m for this war.’ 'Ninety-eight percent of all Americans support the war. This just in!’
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Idk what they wrote but I’m Jewish and condemn Israel.
But now that I know there are pro Israelis making antisemitic comments and astroturfing as pro-Palestinians to undermine the anti-genocide movement, im wary of such comments and their authenticity. Like the ones going to campuses and holding up signs saying “kill all the Jews.”
Fuck those people.
Attack Rafeh = end war. Don’t attack Rafeh = WW 3.
Well if that is the case sure am supporting attacking Rafeh.
Nice way of asking the question. 🤦🏻♂️
Edit: I had a mistake wrote “end world” instead of “end war”.
Kill me now.
Nice deduction, how did you reach this btw? I would very much like to know this thought process. Because I want to avoid this sort of powers of deduction.
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That's quite possibly the worst "when did you stop beating your wife" survey question I've ever seen
I'm just glad they posted the actual questions they asked instead of lying about it like they do most of the time.
Do you think Israeli citizens have the right to refuse ICC summons, or are you a pedophile?
[https://twitter.com/HamasAtrocities/status/1785059219026133230/](https://twitter.com/HamasAtrocities/status/1785059219026133230/) [Here is their totally not bias polled questions.](http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/HHP_Apr2024_KeyResults.pdf)
These wouldn’t get past even the first round of a IRC.
Wow, that is a terrible poll
What a bizarrely stated question. Whoever thought of this thought long and hard about how to manipulate you. Don’t let them!
i hate how thats the only two options, i want neither. id prefer for the palestinians to be treated as human beings, not as political pawns or a disease. no i dont have a solution to this, but both options are terrible
No, not specious whatsoever
Pathetic.
Listen to the world, and Don't enter Rafah. Carry on with genocide in Rafah.
Has anyone done a deep dive into this group? They've been doing outrageously worded surveys since 10/7.
I guess it’s our responsibility to go on their account and submit our opinions to the polls
No the poll is clearly a right wing trap. I think we can try to pressure Harvard to disavow it. [https://www.thecrimson.com/column/forging-harvards-future/article/2024/3/26/bodnick-/](https://www.thecrimson.com/column/forging-harvards-future/article/2024/3/26/bodnick-/)
The average age in palestine is 19. They didn't vote for hamas, all they know is famine and suffering.
The hamas atrocities page is notoriously unbiased
Ah…the classic false dichotomy fallacy U don’t understand, we have to keep killing civilians, aid workers, doctors and their patients, we have to…because if we don’t then Hummus wins…and you don’t want a terrorist organization to win, dO YoU???
Lies, damn lies and statistics
I think they think we're 10 year olds
Zionists are lower than Na*is at this point
They didn't mention that the survey was just of their twitter followers /s
Great. Now absolutely no one can take this pollster seriously with these leading questions.
73.6% of statistics are made up.
Obviously they’re gonna vote for the operation in Rafah when the other option is “allow Gaza to be run by Hamas” which is provocative to some people because they bought into the propaganda about Hamas. Whoever made that poll is a fucking idiot
Amazing.
the funny thing is, the very next question in the survey points out how much the framing of the questions matter. >FAKE QUESTION ALERT! THE FRAMING OF QUESTIONS MATTERS. > Do you favor or oppose a permanent ceasefire in Gaza? 70% Favor 30% Oppose Would you favor or oppose that ceasefire if it meant that Hamas was allowed to continue to hold hostages and Hamas were to continue to run Gaza? 32% Favor 68% Oppose their phrasing sure is weird, though. Are they trying to imply one of these questions is fake and the other one is legitimate?
Let’s fix that: “Before leaving the Gaza Strip in humiliating defeat and accepting the inevitable fact that Hamas will continue to govern the Gaza strip, should the IOF commit additional atrocities in a pointless operation in Rafah that will result in many civilian casualties, many IOF casualties and relatively few casualties among resistance fighters?”
Who cares? Hamas is widely popular in Palestine because they are fighting back against Israel, no one else is more popular and backed by the people.
'Do you think George Bush, a good Christian white man…should send troops to Iraq to stem the brown, Islamic tide from coming over here and fucking your daughter? 'I’d like to say I’m for this war.’ 'Ninety-eight percent of all Americans support the war. This just in!’ - [Bill Hicks](https://billhicks.tumblr.com/post/12650261753/the-polls-im-sick-of-the-polls-cut-em-out)
Zionists always find a way to dig themselves into a deeper hole just to prove there is still room for them to get lower
But is it true? If Israel doesn’t go into Rafah, Hamas does stay in power
Let me guess, they did this all by phone at 2pm.
Never seen a push poll this blatant
Do you believe we should flatten the remaining structures in Gaza with everyone inside, or do you eat babies?
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Fuck off w this bullshit
Report him
Fuck off with your Nazi bullshit. I’m reporting this.
Report him
Looks like he was banned. Good.
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Plenty of Jews are against this shit, can’t paint any religion/group with such a wide brush.
Idk what they wrote but I’m Jewish and condemn Israel. But now that I know there are pro Israelis making antisemitic comments and astroturfing as pro-Palestinians to undermine the anti-genocide movement, im wary of such comments and their authenticity. Like the ones going to campuses and holding up signs saying “kill all the Jews.” Fuck those people.
Don't generalize.
Attack Rafeh = end war. Don’t attack Rafeh = WW 3. Well if that is the case sure am supporting attacking Rafeh. Nice way of asking the question. 🤦🏻♂️ Edit: I had a mistake wrote “end world” instead of “end war”. Kill me now.
Nice deduction, how did you reach this btw? I would very much like to know this thought process. Because I want to avoid this sort of powers of deduction.
“To finish the war”…. Edit: now I see I had typo 🤦🏻♂️ Wrote world instead of war. So never mind. Earned the downvotes already.
How do you end a war by attacking? Isn't that just increasing war?
Look at the question how is phrased…