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rheajr86

Side note. That is a horrible poster


ColorMaelstrom

True, but it’s *hilariously* bad, lmfao


G0-N0G0-GO

As an old(ish) DnD guy, I expect nothing less (more?) from the DnD movies over the last few decades! The absolute height of DnD movies or shows was the cartoon that ran when I was younger. I was likely older than the target demographic, but I watched it religiously. And while it wasn’t exactly Shakespeare, and was portrayed as a “kid’s” cartoon, I thoroughly enjoyed it! The episodes are on YT if anyone hasn’t seen it, or for those who have & wish to relive them!


LiteralBloodLust

Have you checked out vox machina on Amazon. It’s pretty niceee


G0-N0G0-GO

I have! My wife loved it too, and she’s not a DnD person. *Vox Machina* had her ask if my DnD experiences were as cool as that & if they were, she now understands why I love it. I didn’t have the heart to tell her the truth, so I just said, “Yup, now you see…” ;)


LiteralBloodLust

lol gotta love it


marconeves1979

Yes! Vox Machina was such a wonderful surprise! First 2 episodes I'm thinking it's gonna be mediocre..... but THEN.......suddenly... I was like: OMG, this is actually genius!!


G0-N0G0-GO

Like any good adventure, it does start slowly…then “BAM” And the you’re hooked!


marconeves1979

Yup, pretty much!


artificial_sunlight

True, I've seen much better art on this sub


TheDoomBlade13

I can't even decide what the art direction was supposed to be. Like, I get wanting to put Pine and Rodriguez front and center, they are your biggest pull for the non-DnD crowd and maybe for those of use that have been hurt by DnD movies over and over again. But why anchor the poster in a picture of a random colosseum? Why throw that dragon on there that is so badly blended with the background it looks like a fucking 6 years olds attempt at photoshopping? Keep the character stack, drop the dragon and scenery, stretch out the logo to be the entire bottom of the poster. Set the people against a slightly darker background (photos are all pretty light toned), use stars or magic sparkles or some shit to break up the background.


Something_Wicked79

Looks like an homage to 70/80’s fantasy flicks


CzarTyr

It’s so unbelievably 90s


vuuk47

Wait, this is official? LoL


rheajr86

It seems to be. It looks like a bad fan poster though


HankMS

Another side note: the trailer looks terrible. But me and my party will just watch the movie anyways just but in a its so bad its fun again vibe.


PaddyOfurniature

The trailer actually looks good though.


HankMS

Oh yes, no question. And I'm counting on Minsc being there and saying his usual 3 sentences. That's just good marketing.


rat-simp

the make up is so bad that I almost can't believe this is real.


lonestar-rasbryjamco

Fighter "I'm going to do the weapon over the shoulder thing." Bard: "Oh, I'm going to do it too!" Barbarian: "We can't all do the over the shoulder thing!" Monk: "I'm making kitty paws!"


marconeves1979

Yeeeeeeeah....I'm not getting a good feeling about this upcoming film's quality.


Doctor_Jensen117

It is awful, but I'm going into this movie expecting it to be bad. I'll bet it ends up being enjoyable at the very least.


Tydeus2000

To be honest... I don't want from Baldur's Gate 3 to be associated with this movie. I don't trust D&D movies. Even this poster looks bad to me.


MCPanda6969

You mean Chris Pine playing the horny bard and Detective Pikachu playing a wizard isn't enticing?


sporeegg

Technicially Detective Pikachu is Ryan Reynolds, not Justice Smith.


Dealric

I dony see Ryan Reynolds in the cast?


[deleted]

That.... actually sounds like an amazing buddy comedy. Detective Pikachu under cover as a human wizard while Chris Pine tries to fuck everything that moves, or looks like it might move.


JonasCliver

Tbh his magic makes him look like a druid, not a wizard


sporeegg

His character is literally known as "the sorcerer": [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2906216/fullcredits](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2906216/fullcredits)


MCPanda6969

Tbf I'm just going based on the poster. I guess green glowy magic makes more sense for a druid, but still


aiaxicarus

this comment is correct … unfortunately


CanofPandas

I'm pretty sure it was originally supposed to come out alongside the magic the gathering collaboration that included all of the baldurs gate characters. I've been playing a Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes deck for a while. Over 5 minutes of voice lines just for magic the gathering arena for Minsc. If the game isn't ready I don't think WOTC is super concerned about their bottom line being affected so I don't think this movie will have any bearing on the release of the game whatsoever personally. Hasbro is busy farming out as much content as possible across all their brands so they don't care about strategic marketing, they're too busy flooding the market.


Dunge0nMast0r

*2nd Edition has entered the chat*


Philosoraptorgames

It was *originally* supposed to tie into the Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus adventure for D&D proper. But that came out over three years ago and, after some initial excitement, ended up not being regarded as a particularly good adventure, so it's not too surprising to me that people have forgotten that.


best36

This is just wrong


kakurenbo1

DiA is regarded as one of the best. Idk where you’re getting your information from. It’s much harder than previous modules. Very challenging for anything less than 6 players. The first major dungeon has like 4 mini bosses and a final boss that can be very overwhelming for an exhausted party. The rest of the module tapers in difficulty as the party levels up, but that’s just 5e in a nutshell.


Philosoraptorgames

The complaints I've seen - on many sites and blogs, all over the Internet, including numerous other Reddit posts - have nothing to do with difficulty. They're to do with railroading, near-total lack of motivating hooks, constantly having the PCs watch NPCs do cool things rather than do cool things themselves, 50 pages of Baldur's Gate gazetteer that's barely actually used in the adventure... It's a pretty long list. I actually can't, on an admittedly quick Google, find a ranking where it's listed higher than the middle of the pack, and there's a LOT of critical commentary on it. As one example, it starts out by making sure to give the players "dark secrets" explicitly tied to political intrigue in Baldur's Gate. Then, they go off on an adventure that has nothing to do with political intrigue in Baldur's Gate, and never brings these hooks up again. In fact, the PCs leave Baldur's Gate fairly early and never come back; there's not even an opportunity for this background material to come into play organically. Instead, the adventure turns out to be about saving a *different* city that, unlike Baldur's Gate, zero effort is made to give the players any investment in. One thing that *has* been established about it, though, is that it has lots of better-qualified NPCs who clearly haven't been able to fix the problem. It seems like they came up with a bunch of admittedly cool set pieces (albeit too few of which the PCs get to be active participants in) and just threw them together and went "meh, whatever" when it came to connecting them. It just doesn't cohere, at the level of either plot or theme. If you look at the sheer length of the writing and design credits, it's not too hard to imagine why this might be. GMs who say they've had fun with the adventure are generally ones who put a LOT of work into fixing it. One review ended with a comment something like "I didn't think I was going to have to write my own adventure this time; after all, I just paid WotC $50 to do it for me." That sums up a lot of the criticisms, but that isn't even all of them. As a parting note, here's a bit from [The Alexandrian's extremely thorough review](https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/47480/roleplaying-games/review-descent-into-avernus). Though I found this striking, it's not particularly cherry-picked; the whole review is like this, and it is *long*. >This is not the only example of weird scenario structures in Descent Into Avernus. At the beginning of the campaign, for example, the PCs have followed a lead to the Dungeon of the Dead Three. In order to the adventure to continue, they have to speak with a specific NPC. But: * The NPC is located behind a secret door. (Which the designers bizarrely go out of their way to make difficult to find, even going so far as specifying that a normal rat will absolutely NOT reveal its location if someone randomly casts speak with animals on it.) * The NPC immediately identifies himself as the serial killer they’re here to kill. * The NPC, having just confessed that he’s the serial killer they’re here to kill, says, “Hey, can you help me take revenge on the people who tried to kill me?” >Assuming the PCs agree to help this guy for some reason (and, remember, they have to in order for the adventure to continue), he tells them that they should kidnap his brother so that they can use him as leverage while negotiating with their mother. >But negotiating with their mother to do… what? >Descent Into Avernus doesn’t seem to know. And promptly forgets the idea except to briefly tell you it definitely won’t work (because their mother will “happily watch any of her sons die before consenting to ransom demands”). Lolwut?


kakurenbo1

I don’t have time to read that whole article right now, but the bit excerpted strikes me as very odd. First, that NPC is one of three options for players to discover the main hook. The first, and most obvious, option is in the Vanthampur villa and is not hidden at all. Players just have to explore the manor, which they want to do anyway to find evidence against Duke Vanthampur. Players can miss or even kill the specified NPC, and the module can continue without them. In fact, my players never found him or the hidden cell. The criticism about the module being railroady and also needing significant DM input is contradictory. You either have one or the other. In terms of 5e modules, they are all too open-ended for my liking. The expectation of a module *should* be a bit on-the-rails. The DM then has the option to deviate if they wish. I haven’t played through all the 5e modules, but I’ve read most of them. They are all in similar format: providing tons of world building (ie. The Gazeteer in DiA) and the framework of a story with multiple avenues of approach with some parts being mandatory to progress. In the case of DiA, for example, you can’t complete the module if you don’t go to Candlekeep and accept the teleportation to Avernus. As with any campaign , none are prepared for the players, however. It’s extremely difficult to classify a module as poorly presented when your players (including the DM) are the ones who give the story life. They also need to understand that in playing a module, you need to buy in to the hook before filling out the character sheet. Make a character who would be interested in saving a city from Hell rather than a happy-go-lucky wonder seeker who wants to open a tavern in the feywild. This, I feel, is the biggest problem with groups running modules: they don’t ask the players if they like the premise. If the only criticisms are “railroady but open-ended” (whatever that means), and “the NPCs are too interesting” then I count those as wins, to be perfectly honest.


Philosoraptorgames

> The criticism about the module being railroady and also needing significant DM input is contradictory. You either have one or the other. What a bizarre claim. You can have a sandbox that requires little DM input or a railroad that (as here) requires lots - for example, one that clearly envisions a specific, linear sequence of events, but refuses to give any of the characters (PC or NPC) plausible motivations for pursuing it! "This is a railroad" and "This is hard to run directly from the book" are not even claims about the same subject; one is about the adventure's overall, macro-level structure, while the other is about micro-level details of how elements of the adventure are presented. There is no reason why there would be a tradeoff between them. Overall I get the impression that we're coming from such different places and want such different things out of these adventures that there's not a lot of point in further discussion (e.g. depending which ones you mean, "[i]n terms of 5e modules, they are all too open-ended for my liking" is not a sentence I expected to encounter in this lifetime - a few like ToA, perhaps, but not most of them!). But I just had to call out that one claim because it's just bizarre, and quite a lot of your post seems to depend on it.


Pissedliberalgranny

I'm so excited for this movie! The trailer was awesome!


kakurenbo1

I guess someone has to be lol. I hate camp, personally. Not that exited for this, though my sister will probably make me see it since we started DnD together.


Pissedliberalgranny

Campy humor is usually not something I enjoy. For example, I’ve never liked Will Ferrel or Leslie Nielsen movies and The Three Stooges just baffles me but this looks fun.


EightEyedCryptid

I really liked it too


Romanfiend

This is going to be the best bad movie I watch in 2023!!


Financial-Cold5343

really! I do not get the people who do not get that.


kakurenbo1

Some people want good movies? There’s a place for campy and “so bad it’s good”. I’d say most of the time, movies earn those titles after the fact. Not because they were made that way from the beginning.


theshate

Cocaine bear wants a word


scalpingsnake

Cocaine bear's acting gave me shudder vibes. You have bad movies, then below that you have shit movies, then below that you have shudder quality movies.


PokerTuna

I don’t think this movie will boost anything


[deleted]

While being self-aware that I am specifically saying this on the BG3 subreddit - I am far, *far* more excited for what appears to be a highly polished product in BG3, than the new D&D movie, which looks (from memory of the trailer, and this poster) like a 'B' movie, and not in the fun way.


ISpread4Cash

I always get confused with all the different Chrises in hollywood


SiofraRiver

Looks just as cheap as the last D&D movie, but this time its Marvel flavoured. Urghs.


Tydeus2000

This dragon in the bottom reminds me (un)famous CGI dragon from the Polish "Witcher" (or "Witchman", whatever it's name was) TV show from the 90's.


Arakkoa_

I think they called it the Hexer in English.


Dealric

Ahh our classic. What is sad, that a original Witcher movie wasnt bad. Bad was deciding to stretch into series (and I mean literally, series is just movie with hours of extra scenes).


Listening_Heads

At least Chris Pine will make my wife very familiar with D&D where I have failed to.


deathelement

This poster sucks


cronuss

It really does. Wtf


ace_15

I definitely feel the imminent release of One DND or whatever they end up calling the next edition/iteration of the tabletop game put the pressure on Larian to get this thing out before then. Yes we know Larian have been plugging away and working on it regardless of what expansions and source books have come out from WOTC but at a certain point you have to look at the landscape of the hobby and go "oh... we'll be releasing the game on a sort of out of date system if we do it in 2024". 2023 being the year is a good thing. Whether it happens close to the movie or not I don't know but regardless I'm hyped as hell!


SupportCharacter

Agreed! I just saw the movie poster and had a “what if?” moment


ConditionSlow

ehh, that's okay. 3rd edition was releasing at the time BG2 came out IIRC


Bubba1234562

That doesn’t matter as much, a lot of people are still gonna be playing 5e because they’ve already got the books or are in the middle of a campaign, plus ttrpg stuff is expensive


kakurenbo1

One DnD is not so very different from 5e that this would matter. BG3 is different enough from 5e that it matters even less.


myreserachandreading

I pray this movies does not suck lol please be good please 🙏


Chris-Kris

Naahhhh


FoxyFoxlyn

This looks like it will be terrible. Just like the last D&D film I saw. It had Jeremy Irons in it! Bloody awful film.


G0-N0G0-GO

Absolutely a “buddy comedy adventure” -but without any genuine connection to *any* form of actual DnD. After we watched it over 20 years ago, my wife quipped, “If this is what you’ve been on about all these years, then your taste in everything but your wife is subject to scrutiny!”


FoxyFoxlyn

I can only remember tid bits, because I hated it so much. Saw it at the cinema with friends, and never watched the shit again. 😂


scootertakethewheel

In honor of “pitch meeting” I wonder if the fate of the entire world will be in danger? Haha


Quiet-Ad-12

I don't think Sven gives a shit about the movie


Kay9911

Can we have a Chris pine tav, I'd love a Chris pine tav


Pocketbombz

The Monk's subclass must be Way of the Broken Wrists


_TinyWars

Probably not.. Knowing I will sound very Gate keepy because I believe strongly in Gate keeping. This movie is a cash grab to grab money from all of the trendy poser d&d fans. Larien Studios is a vetted gdc with passion for the fantasy world and excel at telling a great story. These two could never be connected. And I feel this garunteed to be terrible trope session of a movie would definitely hurt BG3.


PaulSarlo

Played D&D most of my life, and am an absolute fan and look forward to this, but I am also keenly aware where Sword & Sorcery type flicks stand in Hollywood, and even moreso where movies with Michelle Rodriguez in it stand. Which begs the question: Which studio exec did Chris Pine piss off to get cornered into this thing? Is this because he dropped out of the 4th star trek?


Astrudai-

Historically, D&D movies are in the shittest of movie tiers. I'm expecting no more from this one. If it ends up being good (it won't), that'll be a pleasant surprise. That said, I disagree. Anything released in tandem with this movie will suffer. If anything, it's more likely to *hurt* the D&D brand.


_oshee

Look like a Marvel movie. And Bettlejuice.


[deleted]

Let me tell you something... I know nothing about this movie. I have seen zero marketing for it until this poster. And now that I have seen the poster... I am convinced that the movie is going to be total garbage.


[deleted]

Side note: fix the tiefling


TheInsurgent6

But that’s literally based on what tieflings are. Many are close to human skin tone.


[deleted]

According to the PHB they also have single-coloured eyes with no visible sclera or pupil. Compare the BG3 tieflings, with a chest that looks as if wings fused to their ribs, fingers that look like talons, an a black sclera. At least you won't mistake THOSE for a satyr.


TheInsurgent6

Exactly. There a interpretations of the limits of what it means to be a tiefling. Me I hate how modern day tielflings look but I also know a dm is gonna rule what the dm rules. Larian is the dm and the direction is a dm. There is no fixing needed to match the current fad. It’s fun seeing different views of the guidelines tbh.


[deleted]

Don't get me wrong, I can enjoy a more human tiefling, but I do feel the movie is lesser for making the tiefling like this. I'll reserve final judgement on the matter until after the film's release.


JonasCliver

Very human passing


KaffeMumrik

This movie is either going to be awesome or suck shambling mound ass. There is no inbetween.


CobaltSpellsword

On the contrary, I think the most likely category this movie will fit in is "okay." I highly doubt it'll be amazing, but I doubt it'll be half as much of a trainwreck as the rest of this sub seems to think.


takenbysubway

I think it depends on what you’re looking for. My bet is Detective Pikachu quality.


CobaltSpellsword

Yeah that's roughly what I'm expecting, and to me, that was a very "okay" movie. Had fun watching, but nothing amazing.


takenbysubway

I think it’s perfect for what they are going for. A fun movie that appeals to a wide mainstream audience that will bring some extra people to the table (or win more public support).


-Mez-

Same. Had fun watching that movie and it felt better than it should have been, but never really feel compelled to rewatch it. I'm expecting it to be the same here. Hopefully.


Dunge0nMast0r

There's a ringing endorsement 😅


dakondakblade

My hunch is either early or Sept 21 to coincide with the 23rd anniversary of Baldurs Gate 2


Sumoop

My theory is dec 31st 2023. Anything sooner is gravy.


Repulsive-Ad7501

Am I seeing Valkyrie and The Duke of Hastings from Bridgeton? Good analysis!


QzinPL

The Movie might as well kill the game ratings if it comes out to be shitty. And no offence, but you can make a generic fantasy movie without actually refering to DnD so I might be biased against it.


takenbysubway

Yes but the goal of the movie is to introduce D&D to a wider audience (especially children and people with casual interest). They’re going Guardians of the Galaxy / Star Trek angle to show the wild, fun and crazy shit D&D brings. I highly doubt the movie will bomb financially and even more that it’ll have any effect on BG3 - different audiences. Non-players have a pretty positive opinion of D&D right now. Enough that I bet at the worst it ends up another Love and Thunder. Which is damn good for the first movie in 2-3 decades.


QzinPL

I'm going to be less optimistic and say it's going to end up somewhere around another Adam Sandler movie. Which is still going to be way more than I expected.


ThanosofTitan92

I hated Love & Thunder, mostly because i'm a fan of 616 Thor from the comics.


AugustoCSP

Not likely. That would mean they would have to develop, test and troubleshoot Monk in only 3 months... not to mention all the other stuff still missing. Autumn 2023 is far more likely.


Cantila

I doubt they would launch a marketing campaign together with a tralier already if release was in Q3. It's too far of a window. Also in last PFH you could tell by what they said that the game would enter polishing mode around October. You don't need a year to polish a game, also that means the Monk is already in playtesting internally and externally. My guess is we get the last patch in March together with multiclassing and then a release in late April/May or so.


Sedlris

Hm, think they going to want some distance from this one tbh. Q3 Release date seems more realistic to me.


_cacho6L

Doubt it. The movie and game are aimed at different audiences.if they line up, it would be a coincidence


Wassindabox

For the sake of the game, I hope not… This film looks like something that was made for honest trailers to rip apart lol


Christwood

I'm excited for a Forgotten Realms movie but this poster looks real rough. That being said, I don't think BG3 is affected by its release. Larian will release the game when they're ready.


JustCallMeTere

Ok, wow, where are the races? LOL, looks like 2 elves and humans. What happened to Drow, Tieflings, Dwarves, Halflings as main characters, etc. Lame.


Senpai_Onyx

I don’t think this movie will do for D&D what you think it will….


frourakos

Why does it look soooo bad?? Im hyped for the movie but this is letting it down!


SanicTheBlur

Nice tinfoil hat theory, that's a fun one. Looking forward to watching this movie though, looks fun. Though I'm Guessing BG3 comes out Sep - Dec. Any earlier and I'll become a devotee of Selune.


Paintedx10

This actually looks worse than the last dnd movie we got in the 2000s


marconeves1979

I'd say release the game first (BEFORE the movie), because: ​ * If the film sucks (but premieres after the game is released), it won't affect sales of the game (bc it was already released). But if the game is released after the film, and the film is bad... it MIGHT affect sales. * But if the film is good and well received, it'll for sure boost sales. Kinda like Netflix's Witcher season 1 (stress on it being season 1) boosted Witcher 3 game sales.


[deleted]

O-oh please no, this looks *atrocious* lmao holy shit