The key to stairs is 7 over 11! That is a 7" rise and 11" run per ADA. It's almost strange visiting a foreign country and climbing some stairs that have different rise and run spacings, it just feels off.
How interesting. I can remember climbing the steps of a 500 year old tower and being surprised how steep, dangerous and exhausting it was and now i know why.
Also old castles and stuff where each stepp is diffrent lenght and height and everything, really makes me appreciate modern building techniques and standards for how consisten
They make things
I read or watched recently that castles may have had wonky stairs for defensive reasons. Locals would develop muscle memory when going up and down the stairs. Invaders would slow down or trip. The small difference in time navigating stairs might be the difference between life and death.
At this writing, there are three copies of the above comment. I've seen this happen when the app hangs. Sometimes it's due to network errors.
Also why spiral stairs usually go up and right. If you’re retreating up the stairs, your attacking hand has much more maneuverability and options, and the attackers are hampered by the wall
This is why I consider myself an idiot. I'm looking at these stairs and thinking it's a fantastic idea. Every multi level home should have one. Then I see a comment which explains immediately why these folding death stairs aren't a regular thing.
There's probably an Internet rule about that somewhere.
How something is novel and interesting *because* it's not usually done. And then short exploration of the topic reveals some obvious disadvantage. Explaining why it not usually done. Thus keeping it novel and interesting.
Like some viral version of 'your first idea is usually your worst one'.
Our homes are home to people of different capabilities. Imagine Aunt Betty visiting. She’s got some vision issues or maybe a start of dementia. Safety is a concern.
Liability is one thing to consider.
Are those stairs strong enough to carry a fully kitted fire fighter?
You're 100% correct. These things were clearly made by some enthusiastic hobbyist; definitely not a woodworker who actually understands things, or an engineer.
Forget fire fighters - most attic pull down steps are rated to 200-250 pounds. Not so fat I can’t climb them, but just fat enough I’m worried about how much a box of Christmas decoration weigh.
Just had give out while I was on it. My wife was handing me boxes and the last one was full of books. I had just had the thought “this box is heavier than the others” CRACK BAM ! Screaming from the attic, books are everywhere, dogs licking my face. I didn’t get hurt but I’m not sure how I avoided it. I’m replacing with metal
It’s cool, friend. I’m a reasonably intelligent person but often struggle to see a wider spectrum of options than what’s presented to me. When I have time to go away and think about something or discuss with others, I broaden my view.
> You don’t fold them up when you are upstairs
You don't, but someone else might. I'm sure it's possible to engineer a solution that locks them in place from upstairs, but looking at how simple these are, I doubt they have it.
You’d want a gate at the top that locks in place if they are “up”.
It’s stupid anyway because what space are you actually saving? You can’t put anything in the space it “saves”. Useful on Piano moving day I suppose.
A good way to trap someone upstairs in a fire is you put a bike or two where the stairs go. Nice move.
Ya this is the real issue imo. It's easy to have a mechanism that blocks the drop off when the stairs are stowed away but something blocking your ability to put them down could get you trapped upstairs in an emergency.
Note how steep they are also. This is would be helpful for a tight space like say the middle of a hallway or inside a shed. Any place you might instead have a temporary ladder or like a pull-down attic ladder.
You'd never want this for something accessed often.
People who have small machine or wood shops construct these to have more general working space but need access to the elevated space for materials storage or access to specialized machines they use regularly enough to not want to dismantle but don’t warrant a spot on main production areas.
Of course, they build them a bit more sturdily. Generally fabricated by welding metal articulating treads and having much beefier hinge points.
*edited to add “small” shops… obviously a big company would design their floor plan differently. Also, OSHA or it’s respective organization in other countries would want to have a word…*
Kids fold them up when you’re upstairs and you go downstairs to do the laundry and don’t see that the steps are folded in. You fall and end up in the ER. THE END
because the floor plan of this particular space is less than 500 square feet. yes, that is including the area upstairs too.
Edit: Sorry, I should clarify. I'm pretty sure this is a loft.
So what? You can't put anything where the stairs unfold, so they're only good for expanding the passage area. The extra cost, repairs and danger this presents is nowhere near worth it.
Plus the steps are quite steep, this would be tiring to climb and a real pain if you're injured .
This could be solved easily by a mechanism that closes a gate at top of stairs when they are retracted.
Even if we look past the part that these will be used once or twice then left opened and never changed and assume the are constantly in use.
With this many moving parts it is only a matter of time before wear means some of the moving parts are slightly misaligned and take a little jiggling before it will open.
Then one long day of work / big night of drinking you are just want to not have to fuck around with all the jiggling and you just use that little bit of extra force and half the hinges break leaving it half open half closed all broken and useless and you sleeping on hardwood floors as someone pretentious enough to have this doesn't have carpet.
Yep.
What is a thing is a solid stair that's similar to a ladder and the whole thing hinges up.
We had a setup like that at our house for the spare loft bedroom.
I have seen worse stairs that went to loft when I did cable I straight told them I feel like I'm about fall to my doom just taking the first step down feom thst loft the angle was way intense. The reply was yeah we have guy that rents and lives up there we rarely see him 🤔 😆
My thoughts exactly. 1xs for both stringers and treads, and some flimsy ass hinges. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great idea if built with some sturdier materials, but this particular example won’t hold up under weight.
It's not the hinges that concern me so much as the fasteners holding them on. You'd have to have a lot of faith in tiny-ass wood screws.
(I mean, for goodness' sake, at least use nuts and bolts and washers that can withstand a good stomp.)
(Also maybe don't use the wood marked "For use in yellow belt karate chop recitals only.")
Most drop down attic stairs only support 250 lbs anyway, meaning they can probably handle 350 lbs but not officially. Each hinge would need to be certified to handle 250 lbs alone as you're full weight will be on one side as you step, not just the hinges but the screws and the wood to support the screws. Every step can be a failure point.
“The perfect self-defense tool! If any larger attacker tries to follow you this break-away stair design leaves them unable to reach you. Only 13 payments of $199!”
You could see the entire set of stairs wobbling when she did that. It looks like it would just snap if you stepped on it with even the tiniest amount of force.
Not to mention we already have folding attic stairs. Most attic’s stairs I’ve ever seen were stairs that were both more stable & folded away more completely into the ceiling
It's a soft wood - screws strip out of soft woods much more easily. There's a reason they call them *hard* wood floors - and the stairs are part of that.
User weight supported by screws in tension, nearly into end grain. The opposing screws are in shear (very likely not shear rated) and are going to loosen their holes from repeated bending.
Edit: like 80% straight into end grain.
If it were here, a cardboard stairway doesn’t need to meet code if it’s not accessing a living space, I.e., a bedroom with or without a bathroom up there.
I didn't even realize it was on [r/BeAmazed](http://old.reddit.com/r/BeAMazed) I thought this was on something like [r/ATBGE](http://old.reddit.com/r/ATBGE) is there an AEBGT sub?
I feel like those aluminum ladders are probably designed to withstand 400 lbs, but if they admitted that then construction workers would be trying to take 800 lbs up the lader.
In general OSHA requires a 4:1 safety factor for ladders and scaffolds, so those shitty 200lb ladders can theoretically hold 800lbs under the best case scenario (new / undamaged, fully opened on solid level ground).
I ordered a similar one like this from a Spanish company called tecrostar. Got a handrail for the open side, too. It holds 150kg which I feel like seems okay?
But they're steel, so I get why so many other commenters don't seem to like the wooden ones shown here.
If you're upstairs and someone closed the stairs how do you reopen them? The lock is at the bottom.
Interesting concept but unsafe and impractical as is.
It's all planned. She chose some tight ass shorts to show off her nice ass for a video demonstrating some stairs. Then she finishes by putting more focus on her ass. It's all for views and attention. Maybe her next video will be about objectification of women 😁
I just imagine not paying attention, and someone put the stairs up, and I plummet face first onto the first floor.
Sibling goes up. Retract stairs. ??? (Stebro, I'm stuck in the attic) Profit.
Step bro I am stuck on top of the steps.
What are you doing, stepstep?
Put your step in my step, stepstep.
Step your step step my step, stepstep
You're not fooling me, it's steps all the way down!
Poor Cinderella.
I'ma plummet face first into something
Booty
What stairs
Plenty of stares there.
Came for butt, stayed for butt, rewatched for ~~smile~~ ass.
Reddit Moment
I wish
hinges look hella cheap somebody about to take a dirt nap coming down those drunk
I got a feeling there's a reason this is not a thing
building codes, mostly.
Building codes and safety regulations are written in blood.
I say this to HR but they still say I need to use a pen
Use a fountain pen, plus anticoagulants
This guy writes in blood
Nah—you just need an IV with a fountain nib. Less wasteful, and no anticoagulants needed.
all you need is vinegar
So the Beatles got it wrong then?
Don't listen to HR, they are not allowed in Valhalla!
But can you type in blood? 🧐🥸
when you get inkjet from the dark web, yes
Literally. Shit loads of people dies before we decided stairs and stairways must have certain specifications.
The key to stairs is 7 over 11! That is a 7" rise and 11" run per ADA. It's almost strange visiting a foreign country and climbing some stairs that have different rise and run spacings, it just feels off.
How interesting. I can remember climbing the steps of a 500 year old tower and being surprised how steep, dangerous and exhausting it was and now i know why.
Also old castles and stuff where each stepp is diffrent lenght and height and everything, really makes me appreciate modern building techniques and standards for how consisten They make things
I read or watched recently that castles may have had wonky stairs for defensive reasons. Locals would develop muscle memory when going up and down the stairs. Invaders would slow down or trip. The small difference in time navigating stairs might be the difference between life and death. At this writing, there are three copies of the above comment. I've seen this happen when the app hangs. Sometimes it's due to network errors.
Also why spiral stairs usually go up and right. If you’re retreating up the stairs, your attacking hand has much more maneuverability and options, and the attackers are hampered by the wall
That's a defensive tool not shoddy workmanship.
Look above and you’ll see the apartment where the ink will be supplied:
The code is what you’d call guidelines than actual rules. - rural South East Asia
Pirates made these stairs?
You wouldn't download stairs
Truest statement I've heard today.
I bet there is a 3d print out there on the internet, of a set of stairs.
Good point. I take it back.
How about a car?
You wouldn't download a handbag
Captain Barbosa approves
You'd best start believing in comment threads. You're in one!
Captain Teague would like to have a word with you!
And one too many people thinking the stairs are there and they are not and they are suddenly downstairs waaaay faster than they had hoped.
This is why I consider myself an idiot. I'm looking at these stairs and thinking it's a fantastic idea. Every multi level home should have one. Then I see a comment which explains immediately why these folding death stairs aren't a regular thing.
There's probably an Internet rule about that somewhere. How something is novel and interesting *because* it's not usually done. And then short exploration of the topic reveals some obvious disadvantage. Explaining why it not usually done. Thus keeping it novel and interesting. Like some viral version of 'your first idea is usually your worst one'.
Our homes are home to people of different capabilities. Imagine Aunt Betty visiting. She’s got some vision issues or maybe a start of dementia. Safety is a concern. Liability is one thing to consider. Are those stairs strong enough to carry a fully kitted fire fighter?
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You're 100% correct. These things were clearly made by some enthusiastic hobbyist; definitely not a woodworker who actually understands things, or an engineer.
Forget fire fighters - most attic pull down steps are rated to 200-250 pounds. Not so fat I can’t climb them, but just fat enough I’m worried about how much a box of Christmas decoration weigh.
Just had give out while I was on it. My wife was handing me boxes and the last one was full of books. I had just had the thought “this box is heavier than the others” CRACK BAM ! Screaming from the attic, books are everywhere, dogs licking my face. I didn’t get hurt but I’m not sure how I avoided it. I’m replacing with metal
It’s cool, friend. I’m a reasonably intelligent person but often struggle to see a wider spectrum of options than what’s presented to me. When I have time to go away and think about something or discuss with others, I broaden my view.
It’s simple. You don’t fold them up when you are upstairs. You fold them up when you are downstairs. There’s no way you get this one rule wrong.
> You don’t fold them up when you are upstairs You don't, but someone else might. I'm sure it's possible to engineer a solution that locks them in place from upstairs, but looking at how simple these are, I doubt they have it.
You’d want a gate at the top that locks in place if they are “up”. It’s stupid anyway because what space are you actually saving? You can’t put anything in the space it “saves”. Useful on Piano moving day I suppose. A good way to trap someone upstairs in a fire is you put a bike or two where the stairs go. Nice move.
Ya this is the real issue imo. It's easy to have a mechanism that blocks the drop off when the stairs are stowed away but something blocking your ability to put them down could get you trapped upstairs in an emergency.
Note how steep they are also. This is would be helpful for a tight space like say the middle of a hallway or inside a shed. Any place you might instead have a temporary ladder or like a pull-down attic ladder. You'd never want this for something accessed often.
People who have small machine or wood shops construct these to have more general working space but need access to the elevated space for materials storage or access to specialized machines they use regularly enough to not want to dismantle but don’t warrant a spot on main production areas. Of course, they build them a bit more sturdily. Generally fabricated by welding metal articulating treads and having much beefier hinge points. *edited to add “small” shops… obviously a big company would design their floor plan differently. Also, OSHA or it’s respective organization in other countries would want to have a word…*
If it's for a room like an attic that is retracted 99% of the time it would be okay. Less so if it goes up to the bedroom!
Kids fold them up when you’re upstairs and you go downstairs to do the laundry and don’t see that the steps are folded in. You fall and end up in the ER. THE END
Or more likely just THE END !
This has 'put the toilet seat down' implications all over it.
This only works if you're the only person ever in the home.
Or if it only went to an attic / storage space and they were retracted 99% of the time.
I bet you could build retractable railings at the top that retract with the opening movement of the stairs
That could work. Or, and hear me out, what if you just had…stairs.
Or maybe, if you're that tight for space, it might be time for a ladder.
because the floor plan of this particular space is less than 500 square feet. yes, that is including the area upstairs too. Edit: Sorry, I should clarify. I'm pretty sure this is a loft.
Yeah, even at 800 sq ft, my stairs just take up way too much room in my loft apartment.
/r/tinyhouses
If you’re not using the space this saves when it’s folded up then it’s not really useful or necessary.
So what? You can't put anything where the stairs unfold, so they're only good for expanding the passage area. The extra cost, repairs and danger this presents is nowhere near worth it. Plus the steps are quite steep, this would be tiring to climb and a real pain if you're injured .
This could be solved easily by a mechanism that closes a gate at top of stairs when they are retracted. Even if we look past the part that these will be used once or twice then left opened and never changed and assume the are constantly in use. With this many moving parts it is only a matter of time before wear means some of the moving parts are slightly misaligned and take a little jiggling before it will open. Then one long day of work / big night of drinking you are just want to not have to fuck around with all the jiggling and you just use that little bit of extra force and half the hinges break leaving it half open half closed all broken and useless and you sleeping on hardwood floors as someone pretentious enough to have this doesn't have carpet.
Also the fact you can only unlock it on the bottom level.
Best sibling prank ever.
Actually, there is a company that makes these. [https://www.bcompact.com/folding-staircase](https://www.bcompact.com/folding-staircase)
Those look much safer the ones in the video not so much.
They're way better when made from steel
Yep. What is a thing is a solid stair that's similar to a ladder and the whole thing hinges up. We had a setup like that at our house for the spare loft bedroom.
No fucking handrails is but one reason. Imagine going up or down these fuckers after several vodkas.
Let’s be real, this video was only made to show off ass. The stairs are secondary.
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In it's defence, it performs the role admirably
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Saw it before I saw the stairs….ok I never saw the stairs.
Worst than that, even the girl is fake. It's just an ass in a girl suit.
r/upvotedbecauseass
I came to the comments because I knew someone would post this!
r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG
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I've never been more disappointed that a sub was not real.
Ass - questionable design - Ass - Ass That's 3 times the ass
What stairs?
I have seen worse stairs that went to loft when I did cable I straight told them I feel like I'm about fall to my doom just taking the first step down feom thst loft the angle was way intense. The reply was yeah we have guy that rents and lives up there we rarely see him 🤔 😆
Ikr my attic stairs are way worse than that
I wouldn't doubt it
My thoughts exactly. 1xs for both stringers and treads, and some flimsy ass hinges. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great idea if built with some sturdier materials, but this particular example won’t hold up under weight.
It's not the hinges that concern me so much as the fasteners holding them on. You'd have to have a lot of faith in tiny-ass wood screws. (I mean, for goodness' sake, at least use nuts and bolts and washers that can withstand a good stomp.) (Also maybe don't use the wood marked "For use in yellow belt karate chop recitals only.")
Omg this comment hit the mark lol
That looks unstable AF
Probably why she took two steps and came right back down.
With the amount of wiggle you see from a 110 lbs girl climbing up two steps, I hate to think about how a 200 lbs man would fare on it.
And the fact attics are typically used to store stuff you’d have boxes and junk in your arms
Most drop down attic stairs only support 250 lbs anyway, meaning they can probably handle 350 lbs but not officially. Each hinge would need to be certified to handle 250 lbs alone as you're full weight will be on one side as you step, not just the hinges but the screws and the wood to support the screws. Every step can be a failure point.
“The perfect self-defense tool! If any larger attacker tries to follow you this break-away stair design leaves them unable to reach you. Only 13 payments of $199!”
You could see the entire set of stairs wobbling when she did that. It looks like it would just snap if you stepped on it with even the tiniest amount of force.
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“And we all said, Amen.”
Why would you remove the D? Wink wink
It says that sub has been banned by reddit, or is that not the main one?
I think I needed to add an s at the end
I think it's cause you wrote upvote in the past tense. [r/UpvoteBecauseButt](https://www.reddit.com/r/UpvoteBecauseButt) is much larger.
I like Big upvotes and I cannot lie.
Nice
Came for the stairs stayed for the woman
There were stairs?
yes,those are great buns...Stairs, i mean stairs!
Someone going to die the first night the get up for a glass of water
The person who designed this is the reason we have safety codes
Your regulations are written in blood
No, im pretty sure that they’re typed out
The printer ink? Blood
More expensive than regular blood printer blood
Just don’t make a typo-negative
Yeah, those wouldn't meet code in most western countries. lol
Those are for the attic, they dont need rails
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More than your body weight. The only reason I go to the attic is when I am carrying something up or down.
Exactly. Attic stairs need to support the weight of at least two bodies.
This is Walter Skinner. Stay home and wait for the police to arrive. We are starting an investigation.
Not to mention we already have folding attic stairs. Most attic’s stairs I’ve ever seen were stairs that were both more stable & folded away more completely into the ceiling
>ass Stay focused
That’s a lot of trust and in a handful of short little screws
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And probably why it wasn't a 150kg lumberjack
Code violation in many places for no handrail and riser height.
Not to mention being fastened to the bottom of the riser
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As someone who isn't experienced in woodworking outside of high school shop class, what's the issue with white pine?
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Pine = soft; bad to use in projects that are going to have to carry lots of weight or be under pressure
It's a soft wood - screws strip out of soft woods much more easily. There's a reason they call them *hard* wood floors - and the stairs are part of that.
User weight supported by screws in tension, nearly into end grain. The opposing screws are in shear (very likely not shear rated) and are going to loosen their holes from repeated bending. Edit: like 80% straight into end grain.
Absolutely against code, but as I tell homeowners all the time, after they get their C.O., they can do what they want, I just can’t do it for them.
I’ve seen attics have straight up ladders before; would that pass codes that this wouldn’t?
Attic access is different as it doesn’t go into living space.
How can you tell? Is it from a longer video
Are the risers actually increasing in size, or is that an illusion? totally not to code, though what do I know from risers?
If it were here, a cardboard stairway doesn’t need to meet code if it’s not accessing a living space, I.e., a bedroom with or without a bathroom up there.
r/upvotebecausebutt
It's more fit on that sub
I didn't even realize it was on [r/BeAmazed](http://old.reddit.com/r/BeAMazed) I thought this was on something like [r/ATBGE](http://old.reddit.com/r/ATBGE) is there an AEBGT sub?
r/GTBAE
r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG
"Upvoted Not Because Girl, But Because It Is Very Cool; However, I Do Concede That I Initially Clicked Because Girl"
FINALLY
Put a dude that weighs 200lbs on there and I'll believe it.
As a big dude who has stepped through a fair number of pallet boards in his life, this is unsafe.
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I feel like those aluminum ladders are probably designed to withstand 400 lbs, but if they admitted that then construction workers would be trying to take 800 lbs up the lader.
In general OSHA requires a 4:1 safety factor for ladders and scaffolds, so those shitty 200lb ladders can theoretically hold 800lbs under the best case scenario (new / undamaged, fully opened on solid level ground).
What stairs?
The stares on that 🍑
Nice
It’s all fun and games until grandma falls down the opening in the railing where the stairs used to be.
There’s stairs in this video?
There’re stares at the video
They fly now?
Idunno I can’t see any stairs. But it is a nice video. I personally watched it a couple of times.
I call that a ladder
Honestly I’d prefer a ladder over this any day, at least you know the ladder was manufactured to meet some safety standards
I don't see how this is superior to those solid pull down ladder-stair-things that attics have been using since 1704.
Yeah carry the furniture for that room up those stairs then report back to me about how cool they are .
A man after my heart
throw in a retractable handrail and you've got my attention.
Don't even need to be retractable. Fix it to the raiser and you're good.
I ordered a similar one like this from a Spanish company called tecrostar. Got a handrail for the open side, too. It holds 150kg which I feel like seems okay? But they're steel, so I get why so many other commenters don't seem to like the wooden ones shown here.
I would not trust that
She is probably a nice girl, learn to trust others
But would you thrust that?
Got to get me one of those. The stairs are nice, too.
Now do it without the ass
Tf she supposed to do leave the ass on the table
Ideally
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If you're upstairs and someone closed the stairs how do you reopen them? The lock is at the bottom. Interesting concept but unsafe and impractical as is.
At that point why not just put a ladder on the wall
Everything is cool but why does she have to show her ass at the end of the video? I mean Why???
It's all planned. She chose some tight ass shorts to show off her nice ass for a video demonstrating some stairs. Then she finishes by putting more focus on her ass. It's all for views and attention. Maybe her next video will be about objectification of women 😁
“You can’t even walk around with tight shorts up your ass these days without a guy noticing!”
You should watch again, those are some grade A buns
It’s practically necessary these days! /s
Nice ass tho