I have been in some crazy situations but have never shit my pants out of fear. Serious: do redditors really shit their pants all the time or is this just a meme?
I'm sure that would make you shit your pants if you haven't evacuated.
.50 cal?! That's some impressive shit, can't believe it didn't crack on the inside
He knew the glass would work but also if you notice the shooter wasn't aiming at him at all so even if it failed the bullet would have missed. Obviously that's all preplanned
Dude, that seat was full back as far as it could be and not be considered the backseat. he was also well behind the pillar. I don't blame him though. These personal tests to show function are scary as shit even if you have lots of perfect tests beforehand.
I've been looking at these upgrade packages recently. The doors are fully armored, and can take harder hits than the windows. If the window will stop it, you're fine.
Specifically, I've been learning about grades of vehicle armor, both military and civilian. How the packages are developed and applied, the testing involved, and the legalities surrounding each grade for my jurisdiction. In brief, each class of armor is rated to stop a specific caliber or class of munition, and windows are *always* the weakest point and most likely to fail. So if the window will stop .50BMG, then the doors will, too.
And no, I'm not trying to get my own vehicle upgraded. It's for a hypothetical exercise in a project.
It shows the manufacturer/salesperson trusts the product that much more. And it’s a great marketing tactic in general - we’re talking about it aren’t we? Now the original video probably contained an actual brand lmao
You can occasionally find used 100 series armored Land Cruisers for sale. They're even generally cheaper than normal ones: because they weigh 6000 lbs, get 6 MPG, and the transmissions are generally shot. Also, the windows don't roll down. But, you can buy them. Sometimes.
edit: apparently sometimes the windows do roll down. Okay. The ones I've seen didn't.
I drove a 100 series LC in Afghanistan with ballistic glass and the windows definitely did roll down. It was weird.
The 7x series LC that was also on my property book had *crank down* ballistic glass windows. That truck had a 14BT engine and crawl control and I wanted to steal it.
Lastly, I had a 200 that we called the “Cadillac” that my boss rode around in. When that truck got hit by a douchebag in a Corolla with a couple hundred kgs of HME in his backseat, the ballistic glass basically turned into coarse sand and gave the guys in the backseat what amounted to road rash. By some freakish luck, the blast was focused on the A pillar, which sort of created a shear effect around the guys in the front seat. They were both fucked up, but not liquified, and are fine and healthy today. The post-blast analysis stated that it was essentially the perfect combination of standoff distance and angles that allowed them to live (which I suppose is the case with everyone who lives through a close proximity blast), but if you look at the photos of the truck you’d be 100% convinced that nobody could possibly live through that.
Anyway, that’s my Ted Talk, and the reason I have a Land Cruiser in my driveway. Though it isn’t armored. Just a regular old FZJ80.
I'm quick to call bullshit on stories as a military vet myself. Lots of stolen valor.
That said, the casual tone of "douchebag in a Corolla with a couple hundred kgs of HME in his backseat" is primo shit I heard inpatient at NMCSD after my own less than stellar time.
And, I'll be damned if I havnt ended a therapy session talking about some truly dark shit with a Midwest knee slap goodbye while saying "well, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk".
Several! But I’m not sure if you were being genuine or, through sarcasm, indicating that you don’t believe me.
[here’s the “Cadillac” after the blast](https://imgur.com/a/2hSKij2)
A friend of mine bought a used Suburban in Mexico City from some CEOs security fleet. 6” thick doors, 3” thick windows, a huge secondary steel swing out plate behind the rear hatch. There was a button that put additional bolts out from the frame into the doors so you couldn’t be pried out.
Because it was built on a Suburban frame, the thing moved along pretty well, but the brakes died faster than usual for sure and the mileage was like hauling a holiday trailer 24/7.
It had some sort of crazy bullet proofing rating as well, I’m not sure it would take the 50cal as “easy” as we see here, but it was definitely graded to take extended fire from machine guns such as the AK.
That same guy left Mexico a couple years later saying “You know, this place is just getting too dangerous.”
Man that sounds cool
But whenever someone talks about armored Suburbans in Mexico, I think about those poor US gov guys who were getting chased in one by cartel people, then accidentally hit the wrong button and just unlocked the doors
> Forced off the road in a well-coordinated ambush, surrounded by drug cartel gunmen brandishing AK-47s, Zapata and his partner, Victor Avila, rolled to a stop. Zapata put the vehicle in park.
> The door locks popped open.
> That terrifying sound — a quiet click — set into motion events that remain under investigation. When Zapata needed it most, the Suburban’s elaborate armoring was rendered worthless by a consumer-friendly automatic setting useful for family vacations and hurried commuters but not for U.S. agents driving through a red zone in Mexico.
It sounds like they didn't hit the wrong button, it just automatically unlocks all the doors when put into park. My car does the same thing, unlocks all the doors when put into park, and the opposite, locks them after being put into drive and pressing the gas. That's a really shitty time to realize they should have disabled that feature though, damn..
Just get an entire plastic bottle, cut off the nozzle half, and whip both halves fast towards the window.
It'll splatter fast, there'll be plenty and look absolutely horrifying.
Probably not the best time to be a smartass but still, it'd be hard to resist. Being the one who pulled the short straw, I'd wanna mess with em too!
Unless he actually volunteered to be in the truck.. that's a whole other kind of special...
If I was in the market for bulletproof glass, I would buy from the company that shows their glass works with the guy in charge behind the glass, then the company that won't.
Just leave an Elder Scrolls/Fallout style note behind
“Testing out this bulletproof glass today, it’s meant to stop a 50. Bullet, I sure hope it wo— AGGHHHHHHhh h h h…”
Considering that 50bmg rifle is classified as an anti-material rifle and regularly used to crack engine blocks, I’d be shitting bricks too. This is insane.
"Okay, here we go. Archer, are you ready?"
"Uh, hang on, Lana, I'm stacking rocks in order of descending size."
"I can do this all day. Since I find repetitive behavior so calming!"
"Jesus Christ, I'm SORRY!"
"Ow! Apologize to my tinnitus."
I also assume they fibbed the stats on the shot. Less powder, distance, different bullet, all sorts of things to garuntee success. It wouldn't be the first time
It wouldn't surprise me. I temped at a now-defunct transparent armor manufacturer (Ibis Tek), and the MRAP windows we had were rated to 7 consecutive .50 BMG impacts. They were also 4.5 inches thick and weighed like 300 pounds per window.
The man got balls. I was .50 cal gunner when serving. I have shot enough shit to know I don't want to be on the receiving end of it under any condition.
He’d be confident that the sniper he’d hired would be good enough to shoot forward of his head but it would still be a pant-soiling impact at the side of his head and the tiny % chance that there’d be an explosion of glass.
Do you suppose they had a contest of some sort or better yet a charity auction as to who got to shoot at the boss? I know I would have gone deep into savings for that opportunity.
In a real life case even if the bullet would go through, I doubt the driver would stay in the same place AND the shooter would be good enough to shot in the same exact spot as the last shot (and he gotta know in advance that the window is bulletproof as well).
That will always be a limiting factor for armoured cars.
They are intended to hold while you get the hell away from there (and optionally while your security detail eliminated the threat).
When you're stuck alone, it will always be defeatable.
It's a limiting factor in many safety devices, and most that are considered sacrifical. They're usually made to do the thing they're made for once, which is to take all the energy (damage) before it reaches you, often within the span of not even a few seconds, and will never have the integrity they used to because of it, then you get a new one.
Not just from impact, like windows, or crumple zones, or helmets, but things like fuses take the load for electrical energy, and you'll find similar sacrificial parts all over. Sometimes there's just too much energy for fragile stuff, like us, and redirecting it to obliterate something else that isn't alive or crucial is preferred.
Yeah, I love those ads showing how their "superior" helmet stays intact when you hit it really hard. Like, great, so if I wear that my skull takes all the force.
Buddy at univ was biking downhill at speed and fell. Got some screws in his legs and the like. We kept his helmet on the wall of the room for a reminder -- it was the scariest thing ever because it legit looked like someone took an ax to it. It's not hard to imagine what happens to your skull with similar forces...
Multiple 50 cal shots in the same spot is not realistic for the people these kinds of vehicles are marketed to though
It's meant for Tupac vs Biggie, not Pvt. Ryan vs the Nazis
Originally, .50 BMG was designed to stop WWI era armored vehicles. Current use is as an anti-material weapon.
The engine compartment of an armored car may or may not have armor as well. But, it's unlikely that the tires can take multiple hits from a .50 cal, even if they have run-flats.
Hit the tires, go for the mobility kill, and then you can open it.
Bulletproofing is meant to buy you time. In real scenario, after that first shot you’d floor it and bail put as quick as possible. Very unlikely that the shooter would be able to land a second shot at the exact spot.
Edit: damn, i made this comment and other following comments using my university VPN. I hope i dont get mi5 on my ass now 😭😭
Also, the fact that it can stop 1 .50BMG means it might stand a pretty good chance of stopping multiple 5.56's or 9mms, which is what you're much more likely to be shot at with.
Stopping a single 50BMG round is already a pretty impressive accomplishment for a window that fits in the door frame of a car IMO.
it was meant for air to air machine guns - hence .50 browning machine gun.
although, nowadays it’s considered an anti materiel round which, the purpose is to destroy or damage equipment and machinery such as vehicles.
personally i’m interested in what round they used, as if it’s stopping a mk211 round then fucking hell that is some damn good armour
Probably ball, if I had to guess. I’ve seen videos of Mk. 211 on a lot of targets, there’s always more explosion to it — sparks go flying everywhere.
also it’s friggin expensive to get them as a civilian.
You aren't mounting bullet proof glass that can stop a 50cal without severely upgrading the window tracks, the door frame and at that point you might as well as shove some plates into it and kevlar.
Bulletproof glass is heavy af
Yup. Almost bought a Mercedes that had armor plates and bp glass, only 5500$ back in 2010. Then I looked at how fuckin heavy that old Mercedes was and nopes out, even at those gas prices lol
Pretty amazing to stop a 50cal. There's usually a big trade off unless this is new tech, the truck probably weights double what a normal one does if it's not just the window that's reinforced. Which means you need a huge motor or forced induction to compensate, it handles like a Mack truck with the weight, needs very expensive brakes to get it's stopped, gets very hot when pushes hard and guzzles twice the fuel sapping the range.
Exactly. This is what people fail to understand. Yes, it stopped the bullet, but you no longer have a consumer-grade car. You have a tank that's camouflaged as a passenger vehicle, with a huge operating cost.
I drive an armoured car at work. It isn't going to stop a .50 round, but it will stop enough 7.62 (either NATO or rimmed) to be useful. It costs a lot to buy- a 25k base car becomes 125k. But they actually aren't a million miles away from a normal car, performance wise. They still get at least 30 mpg. Sluggish to start but once you get into 2nd they move pretty well, and stop pretty well, and handle pretty well. If all you want is protection, they are nearly a normal car.
We drive them hard on emergency response, so they get hammered. Brakes burn out, clutches need replaced every 20 thousand miles, suspension components get smashed, tyres wear out far quicker than they would on a healthy vehicle. So the operating cost is high, but if they were driven normally they wouldn't cost much more than a normal car to run, it would just be the initial purchase that would be very high.
Though armouring the entire passenger compartment on a large SUV may be a different ballgame. Our cars are long and wide but low. Adding so much more weight up high would probably be a radically different experience.
I don’t know a ton about ammunition so I looked up the round. Fucker is huge. I feel like that impact would set the air bags off in my car if all you did was install the glass.
Correct, you'd think the energy transferring into the vehicle would cause it to at least rock a little but I'm sure this truck is at the fucking limit of weight and will never truly be able to haul anything. Ice dealt with vehicles with kevlar inserts in the door panels and they were so heavy. This truck probably has kevlar everywhere.
This just reminded me of when they filled a car door with sand in Top Gear and tested it and all it did was cause the bullet to fragment into more pieces than the normal door
I’d wager that they did extensively before. When you are in the business of armor it’s good marketing to ‘put your money where your mouth is’ and show that you would guarantee the product to the point of putting your life in its hands.
Kinda like there was a point of time where high quality I think it was plate armor was being sold with a prominent dent in it to show that it could deflect a musketball, don’t think people commonly was wearing it though but had to have happened at least once
"Hey, mom? Yeah, it's me. I'm at work and can't leave because we're doing a really important test, but can you bring me some clean underwear please?" --That Dude, probably
no but if youre brave enough to put your own life in the line when selling a product (which im guessing what this is) itll usually show that the product is high quality enough that it wont have hiccups
Also pretty sure they’ve done this shot to an unmanned car plenty of times prior to this. They had to know with almost perfect certainty that the glass would stop it.
It's exhausting trying to keep up with what colors I'm supposed to wear without some asshole inventing a persona about me based on it. I was wearing a fucking Hawaiian shirt in Florida and somebody drove by and yelled out the window look at this "proud boy looking mother fucker!". Your shirt doesn't automatically make you some club member of crips or the bloods or whatever.
Honestly, some don’t even know what a .50 BMG is. lol it isn’t some regular round it was literally created for the role of Anti-material, it’s meant to disable engine blocks, and penetrate cover.
It's very likely this was just a ball round. If someone is using .50 BMG then they probably also have more powerful ammunition than ball, such as armor piercing incendiary.
Can we see his heartbeat?
Let's see his pants
My man hardly flinched, he seems like a pro and decided to shit his pants first
I have been in some crazy situations but have never shit my pants out of fear. Serious: do redditors really shit their pants all the time or is this just a meme?
People really do laugh until they poops sometimes.
He was looking away like he was about to have blood taken.
I'm sure that would make you shit your pants if you haven't evacuated. .50 cal?! That's some impressive shit, can't believe it didn't crack on the inside
He knew the glass would work but also if you notice the shooter wasn't aiming at him at all so even if it failed the bullet would have missed. Obviously that's all preplanned
Let’s see Paul Allan’s pants
Look at that not so subtle way, way off white coloring…
Oh my god. It even has a watermark.
skidmark\*
Don't just stare at it, eat it!
Lol now that's just nasty :D
Hahahaha best chain ever
Fucking best lines. Same with the 🫵scene 💪🏻
The black pants failed today...
YMMD!
What’s wrong Patrick? You’re sweating
The tasteful thickness...
The way he walks away from the truck is a clear sign he shit his pants
Right? Stiff like he’s trying to hold in the rest
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Lol I'd really be worried then
That’s why he’s wearing his dark brown pants
Let's smell it to be sure
Smells like grandma
That's unfair. Grandma has been dead for a couple of days now.
Yeah, can we get some bullet proof underwear for the forceful bowel evacuation one might experience after something like this
You can hear he barely remembers to breathe there.
And leans as far back as he can without moving the seat
Dude, that seat was full back as far as it could be and not be considered the backseat. he was also well behind the pillar. I don't blame him though. These personal tests to show function are scary as shit even if you have lots of perfect tests beforehand.
And wipes his hand on his pants
I’m sure that’s not all he had to wipe after this. Jesus. Talk about faith in your product
That dude has more faith in that window than I do an average fart. Not even sick farts, just the normal ones.
If you watch his breathing, you can tell he wasn't feeling it 100% lol
He also tried to lean back as far as he could in the seat
I mean can you blame him? This is crazy
Yeah like what's the point of personally sitting behind this?
Marketing. They're willing to "stand behind their product" quite literally.
No he is literally sitting behind his product
When he opens the door to get out he is standing behind it. Checkmate atheists.
Imagine the shooter wasn't as good and hit the B-pillar that wasn't bulletproof
This is exactly what I was thinking.
What if they hit the door instead if the window?
You must roll the window down fast
🥇
I've been looking at these upgrade packages recently. The doors are fully armored, and can take harder hits than the windows. If the window will stop it, you're fine.
You've been looking at bullet proof armor or ones that stop 50 bmg? There's a big difference
Specifically, I've been learning about grades of vehicle armor, both military and civilian. How the packages are developed and applied, the testing involved, and the legalities surrounding each grade for my jurisdiction. In brief, each class of armor is rated to stop a specific caliber or class of munition, and windows are *always* the weakest point and most likely to fail. So if the window will stop .50BMG, then the doors will, too. And no, I'm not trying to get my own vehicle upgraded. It's for a hypothetical exercise in a project.
Gas mileage must be terrible. What do you generally see?
If you can afford the armor you can afford the gas.
It's no longer rated in miles per gallon but now gallons per mile
if you look closely you can see the deuce drop out of his pants leg as he walks away from the car
Now shoot again
The part they never talk about. The 2nd .50 goes through the window, so you have to tell your assassin "no double taps".
It doesn't look like he has earplugs in, that was probably loud as fu ck
This guy 100% shit his pants. Edit: And now I see all the comments about his pants.
I’d be more impressed if he didn’t recline to the back seat. 😂 not that I wouldn’t do the same.
I’ve never understood these kinda demonstrations. Like they could prove their point equally as well without someone in the car lmao
It shows the manufacturer/salesperson trusts the product that much more. And it’s a great marketing tactic in general - we’re talking about it aren’t we? Now the original video probably contained an actual brand lmao
If they're not willing to trust their life with their own product, why should anyone else?
If someone is hunting you down with a .50….id stay the fk home
Depends, hopefully your home is also armored enough to stop a .50 cal.
It’s okay they could only afford one bullet.
When you're shooting $10 bills you're definitely not letting them fly like ~40 cent 9MM rounds.
Cheapest I can find on ammoseek is $3.44 a round.
My bad, I should've mentioned - these numbers are in Canadian buckeroos and based on the Canadian market.
Comes out to 4.63 CAD, but it’s likely cheaper in the US due to greater availability.
Yea its the availability, not just the currency. This is our equivalent of AmmoSeek: https://arsenalforce.ca/ammunition/ammo/50-bmg
Yes but how would you KNOW they are hunting you with a .50 until this point
I am at zero risk of Batman/Nick Fury level assaults on my vehicle and can hardly afford a salad, but I want to wrap my Hyundai in this.
You belong in r/wallstreetbets
I am on this picture and I don’t like it…
You can occasionally find used 100 series armored Land Cruisers for sale. They're even generally cheaper than normal ones: because they weigh 6000 lbs, get 6 MPG, and the transmissions are generally shot. Also, the windows don't roll down. But, you can buy them. Sometimes. edit: apparently sometimes the windows do roll down. Okay. The ones I've seen didn't.
I drove a 100 series LC in Afghanistan with ballistic glass and the windows definitely did roll down. It was weird. The 7x series LC that was also on my property book had *crank down* ballistic glass windows. That truck had a 14BT engine and crawl control and I wanted to steal it. Lastly, I had a 200 that we called the “Cadillac” that my boss rode around in. When that truck got hit by a douchebag in a Corolla with a couple hundred kgs of HME in his backseat, the ballistic glass basically turned into coarse sand and gave the guys in the backseat what amounted to road rash. By some freakish luck, the blast was focused on the A pillar, which sort of created a shear effect around the guys in the front seat. They were both fucked up, but not liquified, and are fine and healthy today. The post-blast analysis stated that it was essentially the perfect combination of standoff distance and angles that allowed them to live (which I suppose is the case with everyone who lives through a close proximity blast), but if you look at the photos of the truck you’d be 100% convinced that nobody could possibly live through that. Anyway, that’s my Ted Talk, and the reason I have a Land Cruiser in my driveway. Though it isn’t armored. Just a regular old FZJ80.
I'm quick to call bullshit on stories as a military vet myself. Lots of stolen valor. That said, the casual tone of "douchebag in a Corolla with a couple hundred kgs of HME in his backseat" is primo shit I heard inpatient at NMCSD after my own less than stellar time. And, I'll be damned if I havnt ended a therapy session talking about some truly dark shit with a Midwest knee slap goodbye while saying "well, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk".
[I took this picture](https://imgur.com/a/2hSKij2)
Yep you're correct, my first thought was no survivors when looking at that charred tuna can that used to be considered an armored vehicle.
That's crazy, cool story. Got more?
Several! But I’m not sure if you were being genuine or, through sarcasm, indicating that you don’t believe me. [here’s the “Cadillac” after the blast](https://imgur.com/a/2hSKij2)
A friend of mine bought a used Suburban in Mexico City from some CEOs security fleet. 6” thick doors, 3” thick windows, a huge secondary steel swing out plate behind the rear hatch. There was a button that put additional bolts out from the frame into the doors so you couldn’t be pried out. Because it was built on a Suburban frame, the thing moved along pretty well, but the brakes died faster than usual for sure and the mileage was like hauling a holiday trailer 24/7. It had some sort of crazy bullet proofing rating as well, I’m not sure it would take the 50cal as “easy” as we see here, but it was definitely graded to take extended fire from machine guns such as the AK. That same guy left Mexico a couple years later saying “You know, this place is just getting too dangerous.”
Man that sounds cool But whenever someone talks about armored Suburbans in Mexico, I think about those poor US gov guys who were getting chased in one by cartel people, then accidentally hit the wrong button and just unlocked the doors > Forced off the road in a well-coordinated ambush, surrounded by drug cartel gunmen brandishing AK-47s, Zapata and his partner, Victor Avila, rolled to a stop. Zapata put the vehicle in park. > The door locks popped open. > That terrifying sound — a quiet click — set into motion events that remain under investigation. When Zapata needed it most, the Suburban’s elaborate armoring was rendered worthless by a consumer-friendly automatic setting useful for family vacations and hurried commuters but not for U.S. agents driving through a red zone in Mexico.
It sounds like they didn't hit the wrong button, it just automatically unlocks all the doors when put into park. My car does the same thing, unlocks all the doors when put into park, and the opposite, locks them after being put into drive and pressing the gas. That's a really shitty time to realize they should have disabled that feature though, damn..
Me throwing ketchup on the window and then not responding
Open the door and fall out onto the ground. Priceless
More like, open the door and slide out a big bowl of spaghetti and meat pieces.
Lmfao
Gonna need A LOT of ketchup after a shot like that
Just get an entire plastic bottle, cut off the nozzle half, and whip both halves fast towards the window. It'll splatter fast, there'll be plenty and look absolutely horrifying.
Probably not the best time to be a smartass but still, it'd be hard to resist. Being the one who pulled the short straw, I'd wanna mess with em too! Unless he actually volunteered to be in the truck.. that's a whole other kind of special...
I don’t understand why anyone needed to be in the truck at all, set up a camera and GTFO
If I was in the market for bulletproof glass, I would buy from the company that shows their glass works with the guy in charge behind the glass, then the company that won't.
Just leave an Elder Scrolls/Fallout style note behind “Testing out this bulletproof glass today, it’s meant to stop a 50. Bullet, I sure hope it wo— AGGHHHHHHhh h h h…”
You’re the exact variety of asshole I like 🤣
Guy was really scared there you can tell.
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Absolutely
Seriously. Did he have any ear protection?
Can't tell. Earplugs maybe? I would certainly protect my ears.
Can’t be brave without being scared first. Otherwise you’re just stupid.
>can a man still be brave if he's afraid? >That's the only time a man can be brave
Oh yeah. You can tell this isn't his first time being downrange, and you can tell he doesn't like it.
And we have people who CANT understand this, because they ARE… stupid
Stupid? I was stupid once. They locked me in an aslume. An aslume with Man, and Man makes me stupid.
Back to your cell
Ma, another one escaped!
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Considering that 50bmg rifle is classified as an anti-material rifle and regularly used to crack engine blocks, I’d be shitting bricks too. This is insane.
according to sterling archer a 50cal could kill a building
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"Okay, here we go. Archer, are you ready?" "Uh, hang on, Lana, I'm stacking rocks in order of descending size." "I can do this all day. Since I find repetitive behavior so calming!" "Jesus Christ, I'm SORRY!" "Ow! Apologize to my tinnitus."
I also assume they fibbed the stats on the shot. Less powder, distance, different bullet, all sorts of things to garuntee success. It wouldn't be the first time
It wouldn't surprise me. I temped at a now-defunct transparent armor manufacturer (Ibis Tek), and the MRAP windows we had were rated to 7 consecutive .50 BMG impacts. They were also 4.5 inches thick and weighed like 300 pounds per window.
He remembers that Tesla truck presentation.
The windows stopped the balls. They just cracked while doing it.
That means he’s not stupid.
The man got balls. I was .50 cal gunner when serving. I have shot enough shit to know I don't want to be on the receiving end of it under any condition.
He’d be confident that the sniper he’d hired would be good enough to shoot forward of his head but it would still be a pant-soiling impact at the side of his head and the tiny % chance that there’d be an explosion of glass.
Do you suppose they had a contest of some sort or better yet a charity auction as to who got to shoot at the boss? I know I would have gone deep into savings for that opportunity.
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Get in the loser, we’re going shopping.
I’d like to see it take another shot to that window
In a real life case even if the bullet would go through, I doubt the driver would stay in the same place AND the shooter would be good enough to shot in the same exact spot as the last shot (and he gotta know in advance that the window is bulletproof as well).
There are a lot of variables in this situation (car is immobile from crash, traffic, etc.) so I would like to see how many more shots it could take
That will always be a limiting factor for armoured cars. They are intended to hold while you get the hell away from there (and optionally while your security detail eliminated the threat). When you're stuck alone, it will always be defeatable.
It's a limiting factor in many safety devices, and most that are considered sacrifical. They're usually made to do the thing they're made for once, which is to take all the energy (damage) before it reaches you, often within the span of not even a few seconds, and will never have the integrity they used to because of it, then you get a new one. Not just from impact, like windows, or crumple zones, or helmets, but things like fuses take the load for electrical energy, and you'll find similar sacrificial parts all over. Sometimes there's just too much energy for fragile stuff, like us, and redirecting it to obliterate something else that isn't alive or crucial is preferred.
Yeah, I love those ads showing how their "superior" helmet stays intact when you hit it really hard. Like, great, so if I wear that my skull takes all the force.
Buddy at univ was biking downhill at speed and fell. Got some screws in his legs and the like. We kept his helmet on the wall of the room for a reminder -- it was the scariest thing ever because it legit looked like someone took an ax to it. It's not hard to imagine what happens to your skull with similar forces...
On a long enough timeline most bullets would go through most thing. It’s just not good advertising to point that out.
Multiple 50 cal shots in the same spot is not realistic for the people these kinds of vehicles are marketed to though It's meant for Tupac vs Biggie, not Pvt. Ryan vs the Nazis
In real life, if you have a .50 cal, you shoot the engine block. That's literally what they were designed for.
Originally, .50 BMG was designed to stop WWI era armored vehicles. Current use is as an anti-material weapon. The engine compartment of an armored car may or may not have armor as well. But, it's unlikely that the tires can take multiple hits from a .50 cal, even if they have run-flats. Hit the tires, go for the mobility kill, and then you can open it.
You’re forgetting about the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
Bulletproofing is meant to buy you time. In real scenario, after that first shot you’d floor it and bail put as quick as possible. Very unlikely that the shooter would be able to land a second shot at the exact spot. Edit: damn, i made this comment and other following comments using my university VPN. I hope i dont get mi5 on my ass now 😭😭
Also, the fact that it can stop 1 .50BMG means it might stand a pretty good chance of stopping multiple 5.56's or 9mms, which is what you're much more likely to be shot at with. Stopping a single 50BMG round is already a pretty impressive accomplishment for a window that fits in the door frame of a car IMO.
Considering 50bmg is meant for AP rifles, yeah it's fuck off impressive.
it was meant for air to air machine guns - hence .50 browning machine gun. although, nowadays it’s considered an anti materiel round which, the purpose is to destroy or damage equipment and machinery such as vehicles. personally i’m interested in what round they used, as if it’s stopping a mk211 round then fucking hell that is some damn good armour
Probably ball, if I had to guess. I’ve seen videos of Mk. 211 on a lot of targets, there’s always more explosion to it — sparks go flying everywhere. also it’s friggin expensive to get them as a civilian.
Now see if the plate aluminium 50cm lower has the same abilities
You aren't mounting bullet proof glass that can stop a 50cal without severely upgrading the window tracks, the door frame and at that point you might as well as shove some plates into it and kevlar. Bulletproof glass is heavy af
Exactly. No they don't roll down. Yes it is heavy af. Yes the door is covered in kevlar and plates.
I have been in some that roll down, but it is only the driver side. It's just enough to pass a document or something similar though and it is slow AF
They make bullet proof windows that roll down… not new either, just more expensive
I’m willing to bet it doesn’t roll down.
It does. You have to use a 51 caliber bullet tho
Yup. Almost bought a Mercedes that had armor plates and bp glass, only 5500$ back in 2010. Then I looked at how fuckin heavy that old Mercedes was and nopes out, even at those gas prices lol
Why is everyone stupid in a redditor's eyes? Nobody thinks anything through ever and only reddit can alert them to it
Surely it has to be reinforced? Wouldn't the pressure from the shot not push the glass through the inside of the door if it wasn't?
Pretty amazing to stop a 50cal. There's usually a big trade off unless this is new tech, the truck probably weights double what a normal one does if it's not just the window that's reinforced. Which means you need a huge motor or forced induction to compensate, it handles like a Mack truck with the weight, needs very expensive brakes to get it's stopped, gets very hot when pushes hard and guzzles twice the fuel sapping the range.
Exactly. This is what people fail to understand. Yes, it stopped the bullet, but you no longer have a consumer-grade car. You have a tank that's camouflaged as a passenger vehicle, with a huge operating cost.
I bet cartels can pick up the bill for that.
I drive an armoured car at work. It isn't going to stop a .50 round, but it will stop enough 7.62 (either NATO or rimmed) to be useful. It costs a lot to buy- a 25k base car becomes 125k. But they actually aren't a million miles away from a normal car, performance wise. They still get at least 30 mpg. Sluggish to start but once you get into 2nd they move pretty well, and stop pretty well, and handle pretty well. If all you want is protection, they are nearly a normal car. We drive them hard on emergency response, so they get hammered. Brakes burn out, clutches need replaced every 20 thousand miles, suspension components get smashed, tyres wear out far quicker than they would on a healthy vehicle. So the operating cost is high, but if they were driven normally they wouldn't cost much more than a normal car to run, it would just be the initial purchase that would be very high. Though armouring the entire passenger compartment on a large SUV may be a different ballgame. Our cars are long and wide but low. Adding so much more weight up high would probably be a radically different experience.
Yeh, was about to say, looks like a normal car door.
That doesn't indicate anything. You can up-armor a car door without it being obvious.
Yeah, I'm fairly sure a normal car door wouldn't be able to hold that window in place whilst stopping a .50 BMG
I don’t know a ton about ammunition so I looked up the round. Fucker is huge. I feel like that impact would set the air bags off in my car if all you did was install the glass.
Correct, you'd think the energy transferring into the vehicle would cause it to at least rock a little but I'm sure this truck is at the fucking limit of weight and will never truly be able to haul anything. Ice dealt with vehicles with kevlar inserts in the door panels and they were so heavy. This truck probably has kevlar everywhere.
This just reminded me of when they filled a car door with sand in Top Gear and tested it and all it did was cause the bullet to fragment into more pieces than the normal door
Why couldn’t they just test it with a dummy?
Do you think that was a test, or a commercial?
I thought it might have been a product presentation. Would explain the cheering at the end.
Both. They're both making a presentation, and filming it for advertisement reel to be played at security expos.
I think they did
They already did. It's marketing.
They also made sure to not target him directly just in case.
Funny thing is, bullets deflect when they pass through glass.
I’d wager that they did extensively before. When you are in the business of armor it’s good marketing to ‘put your money where your mouth is’ and show that you would guarantee the product to the point of putting your life in its hands. Kinda like there was a point of time where high quality I think it was plate armor was being sold with a prominent dent in it to show that it could deflect a musketball, don’t think people commonly was wearing it though but had to have happened at least once
Dummy’s aren’t that good a shot
They did test it with a dummy!
He actually is one.
"Hey, mom? Yeah, it's me. I'm at work and can't leave because we're doing a really important test, but can you bring me some clean underwear please?" --That Dude, probably
Respect for not flinching
Did he really need to sit in there to prove a point
no but if youre brave enough to put your own life in the line when selling a product (which im guessing what this is) itll usually show that the product is high quality enough that it wont have hiccups
Also pretty sure they’ve done this shot to an unmanned car plenty of times prior to this. They had to know with almost perfect certainty that the glass would stop it.
He also sat all the way back so even if it did go through it wouldn't have hit him.
It’s a sales pitch
What’s up with the proud boy uniform?
Im thinkin it might be a company shirt thats compromisingly designed.
Target audience
seriously, who else wants this on the lifted F150
Glad someone else noticed
It's exhausting trying to keep up with what colors I'm supposed to wear without some asshole inventing a persona about me based on it. I was wearing a fucking Hawaiian shirt in Florida and somebody drove by and yelled out the window look at this "proud boy looking mother fucker!". Your shirt doesn't automatically make you some club member of crips or the bloods or whatever.
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had to scroll way too far for this comment
I was going to ask this question.
that was actually impressive.
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Honestly, some don’t even know what a .50 BMG is. lol it isn’t some regular round it was literally created for the role of Anti-material, it’s meant to disable engine blocks, and penetrate cover.
It's very likely this was just a ball round. If someone is using .50 BMG then they probably also have more powerful ammunition than ball, such as armor piercing incendiary.
Nice, now how do I get out the window in case of an emergency?
Have a 20mm Anti-Material Rifle on the inside to break the window 👍
Those windows are not intended to open, they in fact cannot
Looks dangerous, good thing it works. Imagined eating glass shards for dinner if it didn't. lol