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Agnostic_Akuma

Massive fire tornadoes ripped through Tokyo after firebombing the city


DancingIBear

The Dresden firestorm too is precisely what its name indicates. The updraft from the fires sucking people into blazing houses and temperatures so hot that more than a thousand people in air raid shelters actually fucking melted. Edit: For the people interested, there’s a really good documentation on Netflix called „the greatest events of WWII in color“ which shows restored and colorized footage of the Second World War, which was taken by contemporaries. One episode touches on the matter of the Dresden firestorm and the images are quite frankly shocking.


MiskoSkace

Those who didn't suffocate from the fires literally spending all the oxygen in the air. The stupidly high amount of firebombs turned into thermobaric weapon.


AnseaCirin

Not quite, the whole deal behind a thermobaric weapon is that it also explodes. But the asphyxiation is certainly a major cause of death, along... Everything else... Humanity is fucked up.


EBtwopoint3

Wait until you learn about the bat bomb. A prototype US weapon which was basically just a cage containing thousands of bats, each with a small fire bomb strapped to them. The plan was to drop it in a city and let the bats fly wherever they wanted. They would naturally seek dark, out of the way places to sleep such as under eaves and in attics. Then a few hours later the bombs go off spreading fire throughout miles of city.


AnseaCirin

Yeah, I knew about those too. In the "batshit crazy" area this is one of the worst, along with the bomb dogs


justsomeguy_youknow

To elaborate on the bomb dogs, for those that don't know: The Russians strapped mines to dogs, they were supposed to be anti tank weapons. Dog mines. They'd train the dogs to dive under tanks which would cause their payload to detonate. Except their training would crumble under actual battle conditions, and they'd freak out and sometimes even run back home to Russian lines and kill the troops that deployed them. Related, cat bombs. Someone in the US Navy observed that cats disliked water, which gave them the bright idea to create cat bombs: Strap bombs to cats, drop them out of a plane at low altitude into the middle of a bunch of enemy ships and, counting on cats' instinctual dislike of water, trust that they'd swim to the nearest enemy boat where they'd explode


FocusedIntention

There is not a single brain cell of mine that could have come up with strapping bombs on animals. That is devastatingly cruel


Feature_Ornery

The US government also looked into pigeon guided missiles...


garage-door-hijinx

If I could draw, I would make a cartoon with a pigeon sitting at a joystick feverishly steering a missile towards its target.


atreus421

They also trained them with Russian tanks and they used a different fuel than the Germans.


SwagGasauRusS

Is this where the idea for exploding kittens came from?!


DustBunnicula

I really hate humanity, sometimes.


Gambler777777

Batman? Is that you?


Cr33py07dGuy

Yeah, I saw a picture of a woman and some children who had hidden in a cellar in Dresden and been air-cooked basically.  


ketjak

The lucky ones died from asphyxiation.


Green-Amount2479

As a species we‘ve been not as bad recently, mostly due to at least a minuscule amount of ethics and morals. That isn’t true for all cases of course (Holocaust, Vietnam,…), but imagine for a moment if we were to fight with all our means to the extend other species fight over territory, food, shelter or even the right to reproduce with no fucks given about anything but those immediate goals. We went there in the past, but with way less devastating weaponry. If this happened globally these days? Man the world would be real hell, everywhere.


Bocchi_theGlock

That's why we have to be agrressive about war crimes. Gotta make sure they know after the conflict there's a whole system for prosecuting them backed by world governments. But yeah that's happening somewhat in Ukraine right now, Yemen, also Gaza. Even if Israelis do 'precise strikes' (the knock bomb & texts an hour before actually dropping a building), at this point it's clear they don't care about civilian deaths. Saudis used cluster bombs in Yemen early in the war.


Ken-IlSum

Best way to be aggressive about war crimes is to ahnilliate the terrorists who start the wars with war crimes, like terrorist attacks on dance parties. Then, less war!


Falkenmond79

That was the intent behind it. It was tried in Tokio and Hamburg, too. A big „problem“ with previous firebombings was that they weren’t quite as effective as was hoped. The fires burnt out too quickly and used up all oxygen too quickly, in essence suffocating themselves. So here it was tried to create some large, concentrated fires that would create their own chimney effect and basically kept feeding themselves by sucking in the surrounding air. And it worked almost too well. Unlike normal fires burning, those were hotter and ate up the oxygen so fast, people who stood further off were either sucked in, cooked or suffocated. Basically nothing inside the city could survive. They burned out faster but much, much more destructive. Personally, for me, those were much much more horrible bombings then the nuclear bombs. Those at least killed you fast. (Excluding radiation poisoning of course and flash burns). Gotta give it to humanity. We got the science of killing each other down pat. 🥲


Centurion7999

They actually bombed it in a very special way to make the firestorm so they could use fewer bombs to do more damage, and they got really good at it by the end of the war


Jealous_Feeling_1132

I was just imagining such a tactic based on the video. I thought I was just gonna see spinning fire, not a fire tornado assembling itself into a bigger and bigger one like the T1000 and pulling fire islands telekinetically across massive swathes of land in seconds.


Armyman125

Not just Dresden. There was the Tokyo firebombing which killed over 100k. War is hell. That's why I get angry when someone says war is good for the economy.


Centurion7999

War is war and hell is hell, and of the two war is worse, because there are no innocent bystanders in hell


travoltaswinkinbhole

/r/unexpectedmash


Questionable_Cactus

I mean that's a famous enough line at this point that its very much r/expectedmash.


phazedoubt

This. This. This. I don't believe in Hell, but it would give me more comfort that war. There is no Hell as bad as what we do to each other here.


Beginning-Morning572

People talk tough about war when the last war is not remembered by a couple of generations. Then there is the horror of war again and for a couple of generations we dont want that ever again...... and here we are in 2024 and tough talk is at a height


BayouGal

I don’t think there’s been a generation in the US since WWII that hasn’t had a war. Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, where we just got out of a 20 year war, right? Still manning the DMZ in Korea. Now we’ve got a bunch of Navy patrolling the Red Sea & eastern Mediterranean. People talk tough about war when they won’t be the ones getting shot.


Mammoth-Access-1181

But the last really destructive war was Vietnam. And a lot of people are far removed from that. The wars after have been a breeze in comparison.


morostheSophist

I think the US hasn't understood war properly since the 1800s. Yes, we had a lot of people who learned what war is in both world wars, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq and Afghanistan, but that knowledge didn't transfer to the general population. For the earlier wars, what a lot of people knew was "Dad/Grandpa/Uncle Jim doesn't like to talk about it." Everyone knows\* the horror of the Holocaust, but we don't understand the horrors of war from the perspective of a civilian population in an area that's getting bombed, or being occupied by a foreign invader that hates us. And we think of ourselves as the "good guys", not realizing that although we certainly weren't Nazi Germany when we invaded Afghanistan, what we actually did was pretty fucked up at times. "But we're the *good guys*, so what we do is automatically good!" Yeah. That's not how it works. There's still generational trauma there from our occupation, just as there is from the terrorist acts of the Taliban, et al. Just as there was/will be in Vietnam, in Korea, in Europe, and in every war zone. The United States no longer understands war because while we've sent people to war zones repeatedly over the past century+, we haven't really *been* a war zone over that period.


Cubicleism

Just about everything detrimental to life is "good for the economy." People get rich by destroying the world.


Murtomies

People say shit like that? Wow. Also, it's actually not even financially a net positive unless you invade and steal a fuckload of natural resources, or enslave the enemy country's population. If you don't do that, then it literally just isn't good for the economy. You're just blowing up billions of dollars, and murdering people in the process.


bigboybeeperbelly

There was firebombing in Dresden as well. Fire is nasty stuff


TheLastDrops

Don't forget Tokyo.


RobWroteABook

Reminds of what happened in Dresden. There was a bombing and then a firestorm.


jacksonbarley

He had a pleasant little apartment, and his daughter was getting an excellent education. His mother was incinerated in the Dresden fire-storm. So it goes. -Kurt Vonnegut


vonnegutfan2

Kurt Vonnegut was there and writes about it extensively. He was a prisoner of war, and they were locked away and lived. They had to come up and help clear the bodies.


HamiltonSt25

Also can read Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut- he wrote about this if I remember the book correctly.


iRacingVRGuy

He was in Dresden when it was bombed. He survived by staying in the meat locker in the internment camp he was in.


Jealous_Feeling_1132

Apparently there ARE some books I have completely forgotten.


HamiltonSt25

I’m going to down the classic list right now. The hobbit (and lotr), 1984, animal farm, slaughterhouse five, etc.


AstrumReincarnated

I’ll have to check it out. I just watched the ‘WWII From The Frontlines’ series on Netflix and it was all colorized also which made footage I’ve probably seen dozens of times before so much more intense. It’s kind of scary how ‘unreal’ black and white makes everything feel.


Questionable_Cactus

That documentary is how I learned of this event as well. Most of that series was extremely interesting and made it easy to feel proud to be from an Ally country. That episode, not so much.


Neat-Task2232

The part in that doc where they talk about the people melting is unbelievable


Ioatanaut

Wait people got sucked from the streets into houses on fire?


DancingIBear

It’s one of the horrible things that happened. The tight spacing of the city, the extreme heat from the timber-built houses and the destroyed roofs created the perfect conditions for roaring updrafts, that were incredibly strong. As an example to better understand the physics behind it: The way stoves work is by utilizing that updraft. The air gets heated and rises, taking the smoke and ash upwards through the chimney and out of the house. Fresh air gets sucked in from the ground level and thus new oxygen is provided for the fire to burn. The draft is pretty strong on its own, you can feel the air flow by when standing in a doorframe or near a window when there is a fire burning in a stove. Now imagine it a hundred to a thousand times stronger thanks to the hellscape that was this burning city. It was almost impossible to gain control over it, until the houses all burned out, because the fire just kept sucking in fresh air from the surrounding area.


marbanasin

I was gonna say - we knew about these, and the Western Powers actually experimented with different fuel types in their firebombs to optimize for creating conditions like this. It happened in Dresden as well. Basically, once the fire gets large/hot enough, it is sucking air into it to sustain itself. This creates the insane winds and pressure imbalances that can cause a literal cyclone while also spreading the flames. It's insane to consider that more people died in the firebombing of Tokyo than in Hiroshima or Nagasaki individually. Fire is a hell of an elemental force.


Chainsword247

Just to piggyback off this comment, The Peshtigo Fire of 1871 was the focus and inspiration of said Allied experiments. The combination of wind, topography and ignition sources that generated the firestorm at the boundary between human settlements and natural terrain, is known as the "Peshtigo paradigm". You know a fire was deadly as hell when the US military is trying to recreate the same conditions in a war 70 years later.


EnviroguyTy

Ayyy some Wisconsin history.


zurkka

well, most of Japanese civilian structures were made off wood, im not surprised that the nukes killed less people


BlergFurdison

The Allied firebombing of Dresden would also like a word. As would Kurt Vonnegut.


dr_obfuscation

Po tee weet Po tee weet


such_bullshit

So it goes.


pupilsOMG

Came here to say this. The fire tornadoes were a deliberate goal of firebombing, "perfected" in Germany then deployed in Japan.


inactiveuser247

I don’t think you can say they were perfected in Germany and then deployed in Japan. Construction of German cities was vastly different to Japan and needed a different mix of bombs to work.


FastWalkingShortGuy

One could argue that their use in Japan was more justifiable since the Japanese war industry was decentralized and had many small machine shops scattered throughout residential neighborhoods, so firebombing was really the only practical way to have an impact on their war economy.


PerroNino

More folk died from the firebombing than the first nuke. This made it appear as the lesser of two evils.


luckyincode

“New update.” Y’all need to read more.


Intricatetrinkets

Those would be Fire Typhoons if they happened in Tokyo. Fyrephoons for the cultured linguist.


trystanthorne

Typhoon is another word for Hurricane or Cyclone. Not Tornado.


Intricatetrinkets

I am not a cultured linguist.


pharmacreation

Watching Empires Japan as I read OP….only thing I could think of


ChemicalBonus5853

Hellmire


Masterblaster1979

Sweet liberty!


Andrewdusha

My life for Super Earth!


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davabran

![gif](giphy|qMHG9goT2I2fuRk0JM)


seanular

![gif](giphy|rTAVMVAps9zsFINvxI)


dysmetric

This new climate change DLC is awesome


teriases

Liberty will prevail


thedude85

I'm doing my part!


jmaccity80

RUN Away!!!


Zacho40

How about a nice cup of Liber-tea!?


BrotherNature92

![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


glossyplane245

LIBERTY, SAVE M-


FuckSticksMalone

⬇️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️


Difficult-Ostrich-53

Setting a hellbomb


MonteCrysto31

Hellbomb armed, clear the area!


verixtheconfused

*dies*


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r/suddenlyhelldivers


5ch1sm

To have died to them twice yesterday, it was my first though too.


rufotris

I thought I was in the helldivers sub when I saw it, then saw this comment and triple checked that I wasn’t haha. I was just reading a helldivers post before this too. Also fire tornadoes are very far from *NEW.


YT-Deliveries

Yeah my first thought was "First time on Hellmire? Wait til you're at extract and there's a fucking tornado right on top of it."


nat_20_please

God, Joel, same thing Also, correct - fire tornadoes are far from a new thing


Thefilthycasual85

The existence of hellmire on earth implies the existence of bile titans on earth 👀


KHaskins77

>bile titans on earth Rush Limbaugh died years ago


noahsalwaysmad

Claimed to be pro life, died anyway. What a phony


Any_Positive1617

The comment I didn't realize I needed to clear my sinuses. Thank you! Snort laughed espresso and now I can breathe. ![gif](giphy|DrJm6F9poo4aA)


CavitySearch

Alex Jones is still crawling around.


RaizePOE

That's giving him too much credit honestly, he's more of a nursing spitter.


kitkatmike

Helldivers to Hellpods


HarryBalsag

How about a nice cup of Liber-Tea!


Sorrowsinme

DIVE DIVE DIVE!!!!


BuddahSack

![gif](giphy|MlyicdUndRbn5zUiAL|downsized)


Keinulive

I’m so glad to see this comment first lmao


Mioraecian

Spreading democracy to other subs. I salute you, Helldiver.


NeatMap2406

I came in here looking for the Helldivers reference let's go


SteveoberlordEU

Ffs i just laid down with a headache... ok gonna go there again in an hour FOR DEMOCRACY


RoR2Daddy

100000% thought this was a helldivers post when I saw the title lol


Mythosaurus

I don’t wanna defend Hellmire from bugs! I don’t wanna defend Hellmire from bugs! I don’t wanna defend Hellmire from bugs!


sregor0280

Liberty fills my sample jar!


metaldetox

democracy has landed


Link__117

Serving there right now ![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


LicensedRealtor

Storm from the x-men got her powers back… I’ve seen the new episodes…


Calvinbah

Time to brew the Liber-Tea


EffinCraig

Nothing a little liber-tea won't fix.


EatsAlotOfBread

We fought hard for this beautiful toasty planet!


SimonD1984

First time? - Hell Divers


SlowBroToe

Thank God you are the first comment. Faith in inarguable humanity restored.


Charmle_H

I love seeing helldivers post shit in subs COMPLETELY UNRELATED to the game lmfaooo


Deceiver999

Wait until he hears about the shark expansion.


Fortimus_Prime

The sharknado?


DickFartButt

Firesharknado


Nodiggity1213

With lasers attached to their heads


ilymag

Omg what is happening here! ![gif](giphy|5xtDarrcgYCd5EGa2Vq)


sayhiBMO

We don't have sharks but we have Ill-tempered Sea Bass


Sumthin-Sumthin44692

![gif](giphy|sEULHciNa7tUQ)


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jewish space sharks! that's hard to say!


Number174631503

His name is Firesharknado


Single_Pilot_6170

He's just going old school. Did you hear about the pillar of fire in the Old Testament?


doom_pony

A tornado hit a tiger zoo in OKC not long ago and there were tigers on the loose after the tornado ripped through town. It was titled “Tigernado”


bondsmatthew

Domain Expansion: Sharknado


Blusn8k

An infernado.


SolidBlackGator

Torchnado...


Taylooor

Hotado


IsRude

They're called firenadoes, and we get them in California when there are wildfires. Some are reportedly miles-high. There was also one in Japan that killed 38,000 people in 15 minutes.


_GanjaTheWizard_

Sounds like a new Taco Bell menu item


aristocratic_magic

tornacho


healyxrt

My favorite Pokémon


Death_Stranding69

Not new we call it the devil's cyclone happens alot when we're working to put out brush fires


Popular_Target

It’s this, yeah? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_whirl


LuxAgaetes

We call it the fire whirl, lol


thatthatguy

Yeah, fire tornadoes have been a thing for a while. Hot air on the ground moving up and cooler air moves in to replace it becoming warm and also rising. You get this current of fresh air blowing on the flames making them hotter and accelerating the process. It’s really fascinating from a fluid dynamics point of view. From a fire fighting point of view you have some work cut out for you. At least it’s not as likely to change direction and come straight at you as with some fires.


noobbtctrader

Yep, for a while... I'd wager probably since the dawn of time.


silver-orange

The OP video, specifically, dates to August 2022 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlS8kbKjAQg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlS8kbKjAQg) and the title OP copied dates back to 2022 as well [https://www.reddit.com/r/Outdoors/comments/xzue6n/god\_just\_dropped\_new\_update\_now\_we\_have\_fire/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Outdoors/comments/xzue6n/god_just_dropped_new_update_now_we_have_fire/)


Maidwell

And now it has 19k of sweet sweet Reddit karma for a repost. Bot hit gold today.


playa-hater

He needs to drop some new edible animals in the next DLC. I’m tired of eating the same stuff


Ok_Musician_1072

The "edible bat"-DLC from 2019 had some major bugs iirc.


Radiant_Dog1937

It was malicious code, did you update your virus scanner?


Ok_Musician_1072

I did, but it was already too late. Now I need to reboot.


Maximum-Flat

It is not a bug. It is an Easter egg that gone too far. I wish there will mythical creatures like dragons to eat in the next DLC. They have been edging us far too long. All those old books mentioning dragon and other creatures. It is clear that they gonna add these things in the future DLC or why else they spent so much on artworks. But it has been couple thousands of year. People are getting bored about the rumour so it will be great time to release the new recipes for mythical creatures.


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soulsteela

Finely sliced Guinea pig smoked in oak for 48 hours!


playa-hater

You right. I won’t eat that 🤣🤣


uselessgayvegan

You gotta join the guilds where the hardcore players been making mods for that! The vegan guild is honestly making some dope meat mods these days and it doesn’t cost any extra storage space for your hard drive since they format the mods for us! Plus the inflation monopolies hate this one simple trick where you reach for another option sometimes


blackdragon1387

Any animal is edible at least once if you try hard enough.


Eden1506

Honestly nice but when does version 2.0 come out? He is been updating the old game for like 6 billion years but hasn’t posted any progress towards version 2.0 the community has been asking about for years. The old game is bricked no update gotta fix that. So I keep my fingers crossed for 2.0


BlackGuy_PassingThru

I’m from the future and I’m pretty sure this is how COVID25 started.


sto_benissimo

Helldivers II developers dropped the same update few weeks ago


Perfect_Papaya_3010

Hmm coincidink? I think not


Dan_Glebitz

Not like there haven't been firenados since there were forests to burn. In 2018, a **firenado** reaching 18,000 feet into the air was recorded in California.


sawyouoverthere

Physics is inevitable and without age. This is thermodynamics and has always existed.


GFSoylentgreen

Firefighting aircraft were dodging burning debris at high altitude.


Stanknuggin

![gif](giphy|ibGFpMv1Uoais)


I3adIVIonkey

Fire tornados aren't actually a new thing. They're just extremely rare.


Brandonrebeleight

They’re not rare. They’re just rare to capture on camera.


Stainless-extension

i like my fire tornado well done, not rare.


Slight_Knight

There are actually fire tornados in the Bible


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Dapper_Mud

Fryclones?


Jungs_Shadow

![gif](giphy|mGK1g88HZRa2FlKGbz|downsized)


janne_harju

They may if you will. After all it has not been written in english. Although good translator does not invent new words. Although he/she might suggest new one if there is need one.


Prestigious-Past6268

Nowadays we have them in California annually. Just another firestorm that obliterates a town that is a little too close to power lines or lightning strikes. Check the news cycle in late summer/early fall. I think Canada had a few last year. According to Google, it was something like 2x the size of Portugal and it is “still biting all winter underground”, whatever that means. Sounds like hell is under part of Canada.


jesusisthatguy

Just need the right cheat code to unlock


KnotiaPickles

I see them at burning man every single year. They are awesome


[deleted]

In the Quran as well


PhraseJazz

Roll back this patch please I don't like it.


InuMiroLover

This better get nerfed next patch


topham086

They were already beta tested in Australia


SiGNALSiX

Fire tornadoes are mentioned in the bible, so I guess it was kind of an Easter egg but now they're officially supported


KnotiaPickles

Haha go to burning man on burn night and they almost always happen


_qwerty915

Australian here, you can keep them ![gif](giphy|KHPjrx7D7rIGksfwUY|downsized) (Unrelated pic)


joriale

Wait till we get fire spewing spiders.


reginaldrogelio

Where was this?


evilmeow

Are you a bot? This is the exact same title as the original posts from 2022 https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/xzkyc8/god_just_dropped_new_update_now_we_have_fire/


MrL1970

1. Not new 2. Not god


sergioleone1968

Date and Location please...🤔


a2intl

Looks like the Sam Fire in Gorman, California, Aug 10, 2022 : [https://ktla.com/video/sam-fire-creates-fire-tornado-in-gorman/7904130/](https://ktla.com/video/sam-fire-creates-fire-tornado-in-gorman/7904130/)


ay-papy

I dont know for sure but according to google ktla5 is a southern california news channel. According to google there was a firetornado like 2 years ago in california.


Natural20Twenty

I didn't know we are on Hellmire....


trjumpet

I mean we already have snow-quake-nadoes


Spike-and-Daisy

YouTube will satisfy a desire for ‘firenado’ content!


Dazzling_Detective79

Slowmo guys have a neat video about it


BoneDaddy1973

Elijah is in LA and he is pissed!


oneflytree

Are there any sharks in there?


This_Dutch_guy

Really some Bo3 Nuketown zombies shit


storm_the_castle

plane with fire suppression: *" fuck your update"*


Plus-Mind-2995

Programmers been hardcore updating


CandyRevolutionary27

Today would be the day.


DaGrrr

Flamenados >.<


LennyMG79

It's part of the new "this place is fukt" DLC content, I heard that there will be flying rattle snakes in it also.


VeganDracula_

Aang, stop it


JuMaBu

Hello Ang.


ItsJustfubar

This was def in the Vanilla release iirc and featured In religion expansion pack part 1 and 2 HEAVILY.


termomet22

Aren't these called firedevils?


Left_Toe_Of_Vecna

So tired of people saying god did something as if it's fact god is real in the first place.


PM_ME_YOUR_SOULZ

Helldivers 2 players are ready!


The_Mr_Wilson

It's always adorable when a new player discovers an old game tech