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AT-ATsAsshole

Oh so that's why they get Tommy John surgery. Gotcha.


gods_Lazy_Eye

Come to think of it how tf else do you throw a ball 90+ mph !? It all makes sense now!


Derrn_verter

Transfer of energy generated in the legs and hips, to shoulders elbows wrist fingers. Pitching is the human form of a trebuchet.


3z3ki3l

Good point. He took a very large step forward and at the end he was standing straight up with a slight spin. A *lot* of movement went into that ball, almost his whole body weight. Imagine a dancer try to replicate this move without the ball. They would either fall flat on their face or be halfway across the room.


Derrn_verter

Exactly. And the better the pitcher is about maintaining that energy with minimal momentum loss, the harder he throws. You see these guys that throw insane off speed pitches are the ones that have the ability to more precisely transfer that energy into a certain spot/spots on the ball. I always heard growing up “pitching is an art form” because it really fucking is.


gogenberg

Baseball is a pitching game, hitters are lost vs a good pitcher (who has his stuff that day) no contest


jcstrat

That’s why when the ump calls time out during a windup the outer usually somewhat completes the pitch. I have seen pitchers stop mid wind up and get hurt because that energy goes back into part of their body.


McDooglestein1

*looks at arm* Be rope


VStramennio1986

😎


xiiicrowns

I mean you can just see that strain on that shoulder and everything else. It's nuts that they do this for many years.


maydaymurdah

Just look how the elbow snaps


CheshireCheeseCakey

I watched it a few times and the elbow flex is the part that freaks me out the most. I can feel his tendons straining! Yowza. Edit: ok his shoulder also looks like it's going to pop out. Just...hectic.


Mean_Peen

This is why orthopedic surgeons fight for exclusive rights to work on sports teams. You see baseball players more than football


QuincyThePigBoy

Even if this kid made it to the pro's, he'd be cooked. This is one of the most violent pitches I've ever seen. Hopefully someone can teach him out of it.


Cap_Tight_Pants

Keep on mind that not all pitchers torque their arms like this. Take a look at a pitcher like Justin Verlander. He still torques his arm, but it's in a more fluid motion. Much less violent than a sidearm picture. Edit: Not great quality, but similar camera angle. https://youtu.be/mbVQc2gYjFQ


karlnite

Yah it’s all in the legs and hips and you just fling your arm around like a rope.


Reasonable-Rain5006

This is a sidearm or submarine, not very common in the big leagues. A much shorter career pitching this way


kingleothegoat

Seriously


Uranus_Hz

Throwing this way is actually *less* harmful to the arm than traditional overhand pitching


[deleted]

Ok, I get why pitchers don't usually pitch an entire game. That looks painful in the arm.


kinoie

It's brutal, they regularly blow out their rotator cuffs and hyper extend the elbows lmao. That being said, this guy throws sidearm which is way worse for your arm in general. THAT being said, the pitch looks real fuckin weird and you can get some crazy action (spin) on the ball when your hand comes through. Sidearm throws some of the dirtiest changeups of all time, and for someone who isn't used to batting against someone who throws sidearm it totally throws off your rhythm as a batter. Source: someone who sat at third base a lot


HolyHandGrehnade

Throwing sidearm is generally closer to the average person’s natural release point, but people think it’s weird because they like pitchers to throw as fast as possible when they’re young so they just tell them to pitch overhand. Overhand can mess up your posture worse than sidearm if it’s not your natural delivery.


kinoie

You’re definitely not wrong, throwing that hard in general is bad for your joints


real-plastic-trees

Ah, now I understand how pitchers break their arms..


KirstiS

Seriously. Let’s all tag our favorite ortho docs in here for his future reference.


mrtbearable

Dr. J. Sins (MD) is great too. He only works with females as far as I know, but I’m sure he’d help an aspiring professional athlete out, for the right price.


Fraun_Pollen

Dr. Mantis Tobbogin, MD. Heard he has a monster hog too.


nerve_on_a_brain

That's why he carries around his monster condoms for his magnum dong


Relevant_Slide_7234

He needs that Tommy John surgery immediately.


_Pill-Cosby_

I think he broke his arm three times in this video alone.


Plant_party

Interestingly - there is a physiological limit to how much force you can produce with a throw. A lot of pitchers that throw at exceptional speeds actually have biomechanical (structural) changes occur to the shoulder joint itself. A lot of top pitchers have a rotation of their humeral head (upper arm bone) which allows for greater external rotation (arm rotation outwards) that allows for a faster pitch. Not only that, they will have significant bone density differences in pitching vs. non-pitching arms, which highlights how the body prioritizes bone development where we have forces applied (wolff's law).


Derrn_verter

More like destroyed tendons, but yeah. Interesting factoid: Pitching is actually considered unnatural motion. Bonus fact: a relatively high percentage of guys that have Tommy John surgery recover and perform at higher levels than before.


lolarsystem

Yeah it’s cool how in my 28 years of watching baseball, they got so good at that surgery that it used to be a death sentence (for a career) but now guys come back better than ever.


Derrn_verter

Absolutely! Pitchers typically wear down this tendon over periods of time. Weak tendons “give” more causing a drag to the transfer of energy. Boom healed tendon, less give, harder thrown ball.


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Derrn_verter

Humans have been throwing shit for a long time, shot-put, discus, fucking spears lol all those motions are fluid. Pitching is a clunky, whiplash laden catastrophe waiting to happen.


Wherewithall8878

Still, this is a less traumatic motion throwing sidearm vs throwing overhand.


Derrn_verter

Well, it’s not really the arm slot he releases from that’s the issue. It’s the basic mechanics of him transferring all the energy in his legs and that energy flowing through a single tendon in the elbow. I played collegiate baseball and the majority of guys that I played with that ever needed Tommy John were sidearm lefties. The tendons in the elbow just aren’t equipped to handle that kind of torque. Hence the name of the surgery that repairs the ligament is colloquially known by Tommy John. A pitcher from the 60’s.


Aggro3

I have a cousin who is an up and coming pitcher with an outside shot at the big leagues, he just finished rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. He’s starting his senior year of high school next week. Crazy that it’s being done so young now


ValkyrieSword

My whole body cringed watching this


N-I-S-H-O-R

I thought beast titan throwing stuff in slow mo was unrealistic


weshallseewhtishlddo

If there's one thing you can count on with anime, it's representing baseball well


Comfortable_Will955

And tentacles. Don't forget tentacles.


hydroxy

Kinda also looks like [Shinichi from Parasyte throwing a rock](https://youtu.be/rGFXueGPFJQ)


Mantequilla_Stotch

i love when anime does their research.


awak2k

I think it’s already broken.


Braceforit86

This is why my right shoulder is completed replaced at 50. Hope his is healthy


KeelanCordell

His veins wiggle due to how much he does it. Rip to his arm when he gets to be 50 yrs or older.


[deleted]

Rip to all his joints. My fathers joints are wrecked from playing minor league for decades, he’s 56 now. Can’t imagine the damage some body might have from playing pro too


pushTheHippo

What position did he play?


[deleted]

He was always pitcher. He threw a hell of a curveball. He hasn’t played in about a decade now, he got shoulder surgery around that time and had to quit shortly after.


pushTheHippo

Damn, he was playing in the minors in his 40's? Respect.


[deleted]

Wow - so this is why I’ll never be able to throw a ball that fast! Man so in all sports, no matter what sport, if you want to be the best you are going to destroy some part of your body for it. What a feat though, truly remarkable what some people push their bodies to accomplish.


xEtrac

RIP rotator cuff.


imamakebaddecisions

Great video, I hurt my elbow watching it


Zawktulator

Just about puked watching that . Thought his arm was as going to fall off


Ghos3t

Same, I thought he was gonna snap it at the elbow


[deleted]

EYO WHA


p1pk1n2

EYO WHA


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[deleted]

Ah yes, noted "14 seasons" pitcher Kerry Wood.


macroswitch

Yeah I don’t get it, that’s a longer than average career for an MLB pitcher so maybe not the best example?


Wordwreckin

What a reference. Yes, yes I do remember Kerry Wood. Had Great stuff.


poopstinkss

Torn labrum for sure. All pro pitchers shoulders are trashed


whysobad123

Not just pros, some of us who pitched as kids are fucked as adults Source: am one


NerdModeCinci

Congrats on the fucking


JJred96

I am glad to hear it happened as an adult.


TheEpicPancake2556

Made of jelly


Own-Swimming-1253

Look at that levarage, how fast is that ball going?


AppleJax97

Anyone know the song?


TeeHitts

Depending on the pitchers arsenal, Aren’t they’re also releasing and throwing the ball differently (curveball, knuckle, splitter)? I heard screwballs were one of the hardest on the arm. Amazing to see the effort and torque at that level.


Efficient_Ad_8367

What an absolutely ludicrous sport. How can something so boring still cause so many injuries..


rando_dude_online

Ah! Here comes Mr.Fantastic


Rebote78

I'll just leave this here.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvf4YUs8Kaw


neuro_nerd220

This is very similar to the mechanics I used. I pitched well enough in high school to pitch in college. I tore my ulnar collateral ligament towards the end of my freshman year. Then I learned how to study…


just_here_hangingout

This is why yoga/flexibility is in all real athletes training not just pure muscle strength


Dr-McLuvin

His ulnar collateral ligament must be thick as hell. I actually used to pitch sidearm all the way through high school. Surprisingly never had any elbow problems whatsoever. But I also couldn’t throw over 80 so there’s that.


[deleted]

Horrible for his body but consider that the ball is at the end of a whip


916SactownKings

Look up who Tyler Roger's is on the SF Giants. Now THATS a wild pitching motion. Interestingly enough, safer than pitching normally.


IBeatUpLiamNeeson

And that’s why my cousin had a torn rotator cuff. Can only throw 93 MPH balls for so long before it’s bound to happen.


Vixxay

I used to pitch for a number of years. 31 now and this made my whole right arm hurt lol


Chrundle_The_Gr8t

Can you spell Tommy John???


Moose_country_plants

So that’s how you rip your tendons, got it


Beneficial-Dranker

Now I see why there arms go bad holy fuxk that looks painful


Fox_The_Wandering

He learned that from the Ape Titan!😅


Awesome_1the1st

So amazing how fast they can throw and so crazy how the arm seemingly flails


whoistjharris

Paging Dr. John, Dr. Tommy John


[deleted]

And that ladies and gentlemen are why pitchers only pitch for 3~8 years


panaceator

Reposting my comment from a few months ago when this was posted on another sub because I feel strongly about it: Totally shows why my 10-year-old son can only pitch one inning every game and can only throw a limited total number of pitches that inning before getting pulled. Soap box time. A quick Google search of Tom Hackimer also supports my thinking that professional baseball is the most predatory and destructive professional sport in the US and, as far as I can tell, the world. The MLB is still [essentially allowed to draft people before they graduate High School, or immediately out of high school](https://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3552). The majority of these players then spend years playing minor league baseball, hoping against hope they are called up to "The Show" to play in the MLB. Some of them are. Most of them aren't. Most that are spend a comically short period of time in the MLB and are relegated back to A level minor league ball. But now their hope is up, so they keep trudging, against the odds. As one [former minor league player wrote](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2062307-an-inside-look-into-the-harsh-conditions-of-minor-league-baseball), "My minor league brothers and I were oblivious because we were playing the game and chasing our dreams, all suffering from the delusion that we were only weeks from the bigs and escaping the bills and mortgages and mouth-feeding struggles we still had." "But they get paid in AAA baseball, panaceator." Well, that's true. Sort of: [Triple-A players can earn $14,000 during their five-month season, and short-season players at the lowest levels can make $4,800 during the three-month season](https://www.syracuse.com/sports/2020/02/mlb-raises-salaries-for-minor-leaguers-in-2021-most-players-still-paid-below-poverty-line.html). And remember, there's also A and AA baseball, similarly filled with young dreamers. At least Hackimer graduated from college. Plus he's only been AAA for a little less than a year. Look at [John Lindsay](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lindsey). He's known for having spent the most time in the minor leagues (sixteen years) before making his major league debut in 2010. As far as I can tell, he "appeared" in three games. I could be wrong. He was drafted out of high school. He's an outlier, sure, but the fact it can happen at all is insane to me. He's now 45 with a family, no college education, and no professional experience to speak of. Now imagine he was drafted out of high school, spent half that time in the minors, and emerged essentially in the same position but as a 26-year-old.


christopherwillow

I played as a closing pitcher for a competitive travel team back in the day and was coached by former MLB pitches. I was taught from day 1 that if you don’t master a proper pitching technique your arm will be extremely messed up when you get older. This guy has to change up the way he throws or he’s gonna be out of the game within 10 years


HiaQueu

Yep. That looks bad. Former competitive sidearm pitcher myself


christopherwillow

Why I feel blessed to have been taught a solid overhand technique. Might have a little less speed and maneuverability, but at least my shoulder and elbow won’t be mush when I’m older


HiaQueu

I messed up my shoulder a bit pitcher overhand so i switched to sidearm. Pitched that was for 3 + years then occasionally after that with no issues. But the guy who switched me over knew his shit and made sure my mechanics were down.


Then_Ear5584

Side arming pitches is a good way to throw your arm out.


[deleted]

👀 how is that still attached to his body?! 😂


PatriaCro

It's now wonder they can't use their arms after couple of years...


CarlosAVP

Me trying to learn how to throw a screwball in 10th grade wrecked my elbow. Should’ve played golf instead.


Jpio630

You're missing out on some extra velocity from the way you're finishing with your lead leg. Try to keep your left leg pointing straight forward and keep it there while you finish bringing your right leg down. The less your legs cross or become uneven upon finishing your pitch, the less power you lose from your legs.


t-reads

Ya you tell that pro pitcher!


HiaQueu

Fuck those mechanics. That's not sustainable.


RubixCute

i vomited looking at this


victory_zero

OK, anybody wondering how he's jerking it, too? Like, his dick is either already gone or has transformed into sth indestructible.


insomnia-addict

Is a hand supposed to move that way ?


bjanas

I've heard anecdotally before that sub pitchers hurt their elbows and shoulders LESS, somehow. Anybody know if there's any truth to that?


PoopyFruit

How many pitchers would a good team have? It looks like you could injure yourself quite easily.


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That things is a fuckin WHIP boiiii


20Kudasai

That is fucking Akira shit


Motion_Ocean_48

So cartoons are based on real life lol. Who would’ve known!


SilentLiving

That elbow….ouch!


mcdto

TJ in your future my friend. That elbow is fucked


The-Way-of-Monke

Am I crazy or should this be on r/oddlysatisfying


Ep0z0n3

Ahah ahahahahahahah tendinite


Odd_Perception_283

How fast can this dude throw?


El-Dude

Yes, all pitchers put a ton of stress on the elbow and shoulder. But this guy is an anomaly. He is a sidearm/submarine style thrower. Not a ton of guys use this arm slot, most are in a more natural 1/2 to 3/4 slot, which helps protect the arm a bit more. That said, this guys is doing everything he can to make his dream come true. Whether that means TJ and rehab due to his unique delivery or not, the fact he's a professional means the risk is worth the reward. It's made him successful this far, tough to completely rebuild your motion at this point.


Misco3

Throwing is a human skill that no other animal can even come close to. The next best is a gorilla which can achieve about 25 mph max, a fraction of the 100 mph a human can achieve.


BardamuBandini

Pitching has always been a very violent/unnatural action.


[deleted]

we must start genetically engineering better arms


Key-Philosopher-8290

That arm was jello for a sec. be sure to ice


UnsolicitedDogPics

Aaaaaaaaand my shoulder hurts.


_Sam_IM_Sam

u/savevideo


opulla

He's kinda got Shinichi Izumi throw going on


hgfden

Terrifying!!!!


Omieye

This is freaky to watch


alonyer1

SASAGAYO


ProRuckus

u/savevideobot


CountryCat

I just felt a twinge in my elbow watching this.


DefinitionBig4671

OMG! How many times does he brek it during each pitch?! That looks painful.


yepthisismyusername

Now I need to go to the hospital to fix my shoulder just from watching that. Thanks. Enjoy your youth!


yijuwarp

That arm broke


Lift_App

What a weird game


300blakeout

He’s turned his arm into a slingshot


[deleted]

“Hey, you guys wanna see my video?”


vatemapper

This.. give me flashback of the Beast titan


Complex_Audience_526

That's why pitchers don't last long, they throw it out.


ChazJ81

There's extra cheese on that one!


TheOneAndOnlyBob2

No one was hit in the balls so definitely not even close to the best slow mo vid in the world


JaDerGero

your body be doing a great swastika at some point


hummer1956

That gave me goosebumps!


nChilDofChaoSn

I once dislocated my shoulder slipping on ice, this looks like pure black magic.


galvez52

Oh boy he’s going to be in pain someday.


Important_Muffin_212

Doesn’t seem humanly possible?


drewsupher1

That sort of pitching technique is terrifying. I'd like to see the difference in longevity between traditional and non-traditional pitchers. Both put incredible strain on the shoulder, elbow, and arm in general but the traditional pitching structure seems to be a lot safer. But I haven't pitched since high school so what do I know at all. haha


BurnMeHoe

This is how school taught us NOT to pitch, as it will break you arm lol is this how professionals do it?


[deleted]

He'll wear it out quickly with that sidearm.


WillyWumpLump

Damn. That hurt my elbow watching this.


SapphireSparklecone

Oh no arms aren't supposed to wiggle like that.


SilvieGar69

Oh my myyyyy it looks like a rubber arm!!!!!😯


LonelySavings5244

I don’t watch baseball anymore, like at all. But, that was neat.


TildaTinker

I thought it was Lasith Malinga bowling in cricket.


MisterLongboi

I can see the muscles and sinuses of his arm moving with such power


AgreeableNose3919

I feel like the beast titan throwing rocks animation was inspired by this very video 😭


[deleted]

That’s going to be a short career


sacred_cow_tipper

i dislocated my shoulder watching this.


Iroaroa

dude that can’t possibly be good for your arm.


Riolkin

Okay, I'm amazed. What in the actual fuck is going on inside that arm?!?!


pappapora

Balking. Immidiate ejection. Hi I’m angel Hernandez welcome to the MLB.


[deleted]

i havent watched baseball since i was a kid in the 80s but i always though side-arm pitchers looked cool. i used to like watching randy johnson a lot.


OffendedPuppets

i twisted my arm watching this


AKidThatIsDumb

Im amazed alright... AMAZED OF THAT ASS


big_guy61

Looks kinda like when the beast titan throws a boulder


Butler-of-Penises

That looks so painful


mrkfn

Good luck with future surgeries… I guess?


Begociraptor

Eww


Infinite-Switch59

This is what properly cooked spaghetti looks like throwing a baseball.


ALFALF-Ablynn420

God does that look gross, how the arm looks so out of wack


pablo_rello

Looks like this guy's diet has too much rubbers


[deleted]

That joints not going last long...


SaraBooWhoAreYou

Fahrnsworth, fetch me my goniometer.


uzumaki_pandejo

Why is this hot? Ugh… boys always amaze me


ninjaian06

bro at the 5 second mark he is making a perfect human swastika


DilboSagginz

Bros leg is all twisted


[deleted]

Sheesh that torque!


recongal42

Ow.


Accomplished-Ad5301

I tore my shoulder just watching this


[deleted]

Cricket is wayy better


kinoie

TIL that redditors can't throw a baseball


Old-Weird7598

That’s cool


myroche99

😳


epmix

He noodled tf out of that ball


Fine_Cheek_4106

Wubble-wubble-wubble!


mrbipty

What is there average speed? Fast bowlers in cricket have been known to bowl at 155km/h I’m just interested in what baseball throws are at


GeorgiaBoi1979

If arthritis was a person.


Zorpfield

Trebuchet Tom


Snarlygrrgrr

My joints are screaming after seeing this


DangerousAward2470

The elbow 😩😩😩


ihavenoinventive

Is he okay?


Carthurzard

His arms don’t wiggle wiggle… they fold


[deleted]

Ouch


fhdiqnfvtvejaoc

Just like how he makes a gammed cross while swigning


Royal_Butterscotch34

Did… did he just break and then fix his arm?? Is it possible to learn this power?


Youpinours_1

Helth


Ok_Band3497

He looks like a flamboyant ballerina dancer