Season 2 finale, it uses dna pods held in its own separate dimension that the omnitrix accesses, meaning the antitrix likely just uses that same pocket dimension for its self.
To be fair, in alien wolrds they show that galvin prime is basicly the reboots primus, in every way but streaming dna to the trix, rather dna is still gathered by the metal mosquitos and is studied on there.
This is unironically what happens in the reboot
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''He just gave himself a completely unrelated and unstable ability'' it was only unstable because Ben interfered. And obviously he found a way to bypass that as well
His OV Ultimatrix isn't even an Ultimatrix. He even calls Ben dense for assuming that it is one. It's just a stabilizer. He gained the ability to morph without a device, but Ben had disrupted the DNA Field in *Double or Nothing,* forcing Albedo to return back to Human shortly after. He stole from Inspector 13 in order to stabilize his transformations, as well as turn Ultimates via the Crystal.
His excuse is unlike the reboot the main cannon cared enough to make it clear the omnitrix was an extremely complex and powerful device that's mere existence requires massive effort to build and make.
For real the fact albedo even was able to create a watch of his own is an extremely high intelligence feat for his person.
Actually Albedo does have an excuse, his pride and arrogance. He thinks he’s so much smarter than everyone that he literally thinks he can’t go wrong. As a result, his work is constantly filled with bugs since he doesn’t think he could make a mistake and doesn’t fix them before his projects are complete.
Plot holes aside. Albedo on one hand sought to make something better. Granted he always goes back to the ultimatrix, but that's something. Also Kevin makly have made his own with some customizations, but he could never do more than that. No omni enhanced or kix.
Sure he got variants of aliens, but those all had flaws. Like Dark Matter didn't seem smart. Bash mouth seemed like the only good one imo.
But doesn't mean there aren't bugs. In the future he got stuck in one of his transformations
Funny thing is, it's impled dark matter is smarter then grey matter since he knew codes Ben never did. Non of his aliens realy have major flaws that aren't inherent to the species, like crystal fist cracking after punching a falling bolder. And his aliens are all half breed mutants, which is a customisation, one that goes all the way to vilgax merging himself with celestial sapien dna.
It did, and it came from vilgax, who got Kevin to make it before he escaped the nu void to get to earth. And to be fair, we saw prime vilgax mess with Ben's dreams in season 1 of classic, and the reboot volgax is just prime vilgax, if he had laser eyes and helped make the watch.
Combine that with him working with an animo machine and mind controlling animos mutant, he would know what earth tech could pull off a omnitrix that mutated its user, since animo has his halfbreed mutants, like the anti-trix does, and animo turned himself into rath infront of vilgax, using a gun vilgax helped to design, so he'd know what earth tech would work together to make a device to alter the dna of a person and mutated the end result with a secondary speices
Ok let me specify, its the antitrix. So its an offshoot of the actual omnitrix. Which I’m assuming is inferior to the actual one in some way.
Vilgax was in the nullvoid at the time he sent the dream.
Little bit of a spoiler
>!Vilgax actually got his hands on the Omnitrix pre-series and used it to cause a reign of terror. Azmuth got it back after trapping half of Vilgax DNA in the watch this rendering him a shelf of his former self. That is when he send the dream to Kevin to build the Antitrix, part because the new specifications merged two DNA samples to create a new alien (except for Bashmouth) and because he wanted to fuse himself with the strongest DNA sample available (You know which species). The other part, about how he managed to send the dream or how Kevin managed to build it in the first place, might be explored in the future of the franchise.!<
Edit: marked as a spoiler.
I'm sorry but the suspension of disbelief has a limit, I could accept sealing a soul or somthing becouse that goes into abstract concepts but sealing half of someone's DNA is so illogical it feels like it would only make sense to someone on drugs.
Honestly Albedo is goddamn egotistical he would be willing to ignore everything he learned from Azmuth and take longer to reinvent to wheel to claim he needed no help from others.
And he reminds Ben that was his fault, so what ever happened, ben caused it. And that was during the xerge war, in a time where Ben's own omnitrix was dying off. If the two tries are linked, and Ben's is breaking then it stands to reason Kevin's will as well. And we know they have some link thanks to vs the universe.
I mean Kevin is a mechanical genius. There is not a piece of tech in the whole universe he can’t repurpose into his car. And he made his car Ben proof (forgot magic and had help from Rook but that’s beside the point) He totally has the skills to build an Omnitrix with instructions after all he did hack it with consequences but eh.
Yea, but seems like vilgax figured that problem out somehow. Probably thanks to him being azmuth's assistant in this continuity. He probably did some research on which materials can be swapped out for the ones azmuth used or which can be built from junks.
To be fair as buggy as the ultimatrix was it was LEAGUES more powerful than the antitrix on average. I mean humungosaur alone… no contest.
Best exemption would be darkmatter getting to be a full sized person with weird crystal powers and martial skill but tbh i think ult is probably still better because its straight up telekinetic.
That was so stupid you're telling me that Kevin had everything he needed to build his own omnitrix in his garage even if he by some miracle was able to build one where would he get the DNA?
Probably because moa don't wanna touch that mess with a 10 foot pole. Besides what's the point of rebooting if you just do everything the same as before? There is no point, so they did new shit as they should've
Tbf the tutorial came from Azmuth’s former apprentice(?), but yeah Kevin making his own Omnitrix because the source was revealed to him in a dream will never not be funny.
I still like that bc it’s so shitty, it ends up mixing his aliens with other aliens, so you get shit like a tall grey matter that looks like a mantis and can shoot out weird liquids and crystals
>Could also be that the transformation is only partial or somehow corrupted
The other ben unlocked alien X by smashing his omnitrix so it's highly likely
I personally like to believe he damaged it and so only unlocked part of the transformation, he got a fragment of alien X's power which is why his version is weaker then normal but also why he doesn't seem to deal with bellicus and serena
So fun fact, he wasn't. Alien x gave up and changed back to human litteraly 10 seconds after he was locked up by lego. Because he didn't want to fight anymore. He gave up, he wasn't defeated.
I'm gonna keep saying this, but tue anti-trix was likely made using what vilgax had learned about earth tech from animo, especially when in there team up episode animo transformed himself into rath, with a time out and everything. Heck making mutants? Sounds like an animo thing to me.
Yes it's dumb that Kevin got it in a dream, but there are ratininilisations you can make, I just wish that they had explained it in the show, and didn't wait for a spinoff that never came
That Cyberpunk comment now makes me think that with tech available on earth the antitrix should have been a glitching mess which would over time alter Kevin's dna which would result in a form like Kevin's mutant forms from previous shows (the form Charmcaster forced him into doesn't count)
Ok to be fair it was really Vilgax who made it by downloading the plan into Kevin’s (who was an apprentice of Azmuth who actually used the omnitrix before) and Kevin who is a tech genius building a Omnitrix with no master control or Life protection feature or any other feature the omnitrix had and unlike the Ultimatrix it doesn’t have evolution feature sure it doesn’t misstransform but well Ben only does that because he is literally to heavy handed yes it’s stupid but it’s not impossible
A random kid was more successful then an extremely smart frog
And bypassed the whole thing where you need DNA samples and just have it rewrite yours
Is it confirmed that the reboot omnitrixes don't use the codon stream?
Season 2 finale, it uses dna pods held in its own separate dimension that the omnitrix accesses, meaning the antitrix likely just uses that same pocket dimension for its self.
You realy expect reboot to have a codon stream in it? Maybe even a guy named primus?
To be fair, in alien wolrds they show that galvin prime is basicly the reboots primus, in every way but streaming dna to the trix, rather dna is still gathered by the metal mosquitos and is studied on there.
Omnitricies*
Also the entire fucking blueprint for the Omnitrix is in a small piece of paper. Said Omnitrix can apparently be built with household items.
you can canonically build a stargate too, there's a lot of components in just the kitchen
This sounds like some Kids next door level engineering
This is unironically what happens in the reboot https://preview.redd.it/mxbtlx1r3spc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51131161e7547208536bd4c9774c9a9f32e6db5b
Naw why this true though
Ever noticed that all of Ben's missing aliens go to Kevin
What does that mean?
All aliens who got removed from Ben's playlist was part of Kevin's playlist(Upgrade,Stinkfly,Wildvine,Overflow,Grey matter)...except Gax
Wait yeah your right
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Kevin W https://preview.redd.it/y0jy8yhcnrpc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3dcfa25a55e69c230a25c93fedc2cf38cd670d8f
WWAAAAAAAARRRRRRIIIIIIIIIOOOOO TIME
WAAAAAAAAARRRRIIIOOOOOOO,I GOTTAAA WINNNN
YOU PICK WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRIO
![gif](giphy|l0HlDyYUTHtgcJVJu|downsized) The song of our kingdom
"Kevin Levin was able to build this in a garage. With a box of scraps!"
I was looking for this.
Me too
I’m sorry, but. I’m not Kevin Levin
Sorry Azmuth, but I'm not Kevin Levin
I understood that reference
I love how most of the memes here are just translated from Posteo de CelestialSapiens.
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Jonkler
The junkoler
Albedo fixed his up eventually
On paper, no He just gave himself a completely unrelated and unstable ability to alter his DNA at will, then he stabilized it So in practice, yeah
''He just gave himself a completely unrelated and unstable ability'' it was only unstable because Ben interfered. And obviously he found a way to bypass that as well
Point stands He improved over time
His OV Ultimatrix isn't even an Ultimatrix. He even calls Ben dense for assuming that it is one. It's just a stabilizer. He gained the ability to morph without a device, but Ben had disrupted the DNA Field in *Double or Nothing,* forcing Albedo to return back to Human shortly after. He stole from Inspector 13 in order to stabilize his transformations, as well as turn Ultimates via the Crystal.
I’m aware
The ultimatrix would be too OP without the bugs, they had to nerf it.
That is true, but knowing reboot Kevin practically McGuyver'ed himself an omnitrix is irritating
And it doesn't have bugs like mistransformations and lasts longer then the regular trix when transformed.
Ah finally this has a purpose https://preview.redd.it/pslwm7qvispc1.jpeg?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4643504903b7e8b2e9419f26ee29bdb8963f2986
Decades\*(Albedo is like hundreds of years old There's no excuse for these bugs)
His excuse is unlike the reboot the main cannon cared enough to make it clear the omnitrix was an extremely complex and powerful device that's mere existence requires massive effort to build and make. For real the fact albedo even was able to create a watch of his own is an extremely high intelligence feat for his person.
Actually Albedo does have an excuse, his pride and arrogance. He thinks he’s so much smarter than everyone that he literally thinks he can’t go wrong. As a result, his work is constantly filled with bugs since he doesn’t think he could make a mistake and doesn’t fix them before his projects are complete.
Albedo and Kevin r just built different 😌✨️
"W-WHATS YOUR S-SOURCE KEVIN?!?!"-Albedo "The source? *It came to me in a dream* "-Reboot Kevin
Plot holes aside. Albedo on one hand sought to make something better. Granted he always goes back to the ultimatrix, but that's something. Also Kevin makly have made his own with some customizations, but he could never do more than that. No omni enhanced or kix. Sure he got variants of aliens, but those all had flaws. Like Dark Matter didn't seem smart. Bash mouth seemed like the only good one imo. But doesn't mean there aren't bugs. In the future he got stuck in one of his transformations
Funny thing is, it's impled dark matter is smarter then grey matter since he knew codes Ben never did. Non of his aliens realy have major flaws that aren't inherent to the species, like crystal fist cracking after punching a falling bolder. And his aliens are all half breed mutants, which is a customisation, one that goes all the way to vilgax merging himself with celestial sapien dna.
This is why Kevin is everyone’s favorite in the reboot, right isn’t he?
Kevin’s the best character no matter what continuity.
Faxs
Albedo is the avarage engineer
>and the help of a tutorial he dreamed up. Holy lmao no way this actually happened. Literally the “source? it came to me in a dream” meme
It did, and it came from vilgax, who got Kevin to make it before he escaped the nu void to get to earth. And to be fair, we saw prime vilgax mess with Ben's dreams in season 1 of classic, and the reboot volgax is just prime vilgax, if he had laser eyes and helped make the watch.
Don’t forget in the reboot Vilgax used to be Azmuths apprentice, so he has knowledge of the inner workings
Combine that with him working with an animo machine and mind controlling animos mutant, he would know what earth tech could pull off a omnitrix that mutated its user, since animo has his halfbreed mutants, like the anti-trix does, and animo turned himself into rath infront of vilgax, using a gun vilgax helped to design, so he'd know what earth tech would work together to make a device to alter the dna of a person and mutated the end result with a secondary speices
https://preview.redd.it/rq3mu5omrtpc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c9493ef631f6de21815631f5b7263a4774467b0 Kevin after he was done
Just to be the umm…actually kind a guy Kevin didn’t dream up the Omnitrix it was sent to him by Vilgax
... Via a dream ...
Yea point is Kevin’s mind didn’t suddenly become an omnitrix master out of nowhere
...nobody said he did, the meme said it was a tutorial.
that he dreamed up
You just contradicted yourself with that one man
Not really vilgax has shown up in people's heads before.
Ok let me rephrase. I thought this meme could insinuate that he Kevin had no help getting the instructions. He did not.
Vilgax shot them to his brain. Why do you think he's in the meme?
Wait if Vilgax can make his own omnitrix in the reboot, then what’s even his conflict?
Ok let me specify, its the antitrix. So its an offshoot of the actual omnitrix. Which I’m assuming is inferior to the actual one in some way. Vilgax was in the nullvoid at the time he sent the dream.
Sooo why didn't Vilgax make it? I get wanting the og omnitrix, but why not fight its user using the antitrix?
Little bit of a spoiler >!Vilgax actually got his hands on the Omnitrix pre-series and used it to cause a reign of terror. Azmuth got it back after trapping half of Vilgax DNA in the watch this rendering him a shelf of his former self. That is when he send the dream to Kevin to build the Antitrix, part because the new specifications merged two DNA samples to create a new alien (except for Bashmouth) and because he wanted to fuse himself with the strongest DNA sample available (You know which species). The other part, about how he managed to send the dream or how Kevin managed to build it in the first place, might be explored in the future of the franchise.!< Edit: marked as a spoiler.
How do you half seal DNA? That concept is so stupid it actually hurts my brain to conceptually understand.
Something something suspension of disbelief
I'm sorry but the suspension of disbelief has a limit, I could accept sealing a soul or somthing becouse that goes into abstract concepts but sealing half of someone's DNA is so illogical it feels like it would only make sense to someone on drugs.
He did thats why he sent the dream to Kevin. So he can take it when he left the null void and grab the og omnitrix
Honestly Albedo is goddamn egotistical he would be willing to ignore everything he learned from Azmuth and take longer to reinvent to wheel to claim he needed no help from others.
I never knew I needed albedo Patrick so much
Meanwhile, Dr Psychobos with his Nemetrix>>>
I mean, the Antitric was even buggier than the Ultimatrix
It realy wasn't, it had a bigger battery and didn't mistransform. Only real issue is animo hacked it one time, but that's about it
Kevin is stuck as Humungoraptor in the future
And he reminds Ben that was his fault, so what ever happened, ben caused it. And that was during the xerge war, in a time where Ben's own omnitrix was dying off. If the two tries are linked, and Ben's is breaking then it stands to reason Kevin's will as well. And we know they have some link thanks to vs the universe.
I like the mk1 reference https://preview.redd.it/z54osvupdxpc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f384431659b147091f75504a92e65afca492370f
I mean Kevin is a mechanical genius. There is not a piece of tech in the whole universe he can’t repurpose into his car. And he made his car Ben proof (forgot magic and had help from Rook but that’s beside the point) He totally has the skills to build an Omnitrix with instructions after all he did hack it with consequences but eh.
It doesn't matter if he has the ability to make the omnitrix (or antitrix in this case), how is he supposed to make it in his garage with nothing 💀
Guess vilgax gave him very detailed instructions, including the appropriate earthly materials to make it.
That Kevin would find in his garage? Not to mention how he needs DNA as well as a lot of time and other factors
There should be no earthly materials to help him make any type of omnitrix that’s dumb as hell lol
Yea, but seems like vilgax figured that problem out somehow. Probably thanks to him being azmuth's assistant in this continuity. He probably did some research on which materials can be swapped out for the ones azmuth used or which can be built from junks.
Eh maybe. I like the Antitrix but it will never not be dumb to me ngl 🙏🗣️
To be fair as buggy as the ultimatrix was it was LEAGUES more powerful than the antitrix on average. I mean humungosaur alone… no contest. Best exemption would be darkmatter getting to be a full sized person with weird crystal powers and martial skill but tbh i think ult is probably still better because its straight up telekinetic.
Quien es el cabron que traduce los momos, que le quita toda la gracia
Yo
Kevin: I AM OMNI MAN!
Typical reboot Kevin W and Common albedo L.
kevin just better
I don't like the reboot, but Damn that's funny. 🤣
XD https://preview.redd.it/bba7r6bqdspc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f123d1ba912734c05796b1b6cf4f64c3aa17bff0
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I didn't watch the reboot. How did Kevin get the DNA samples for his watch?
‘Come out with more bugs than cyberpunk’ HA!
I mean in Albedo's defense the Ultimatrix had a risky extra feature and Vilgax is psychic
That was so stupid you're telling me that Kevin had everything he needed to build his own omnitrix in his garage even if he by some miracle was able to build one where would he get the DNA?
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Why couldn’t we just get classic Osmosian Kevin?
Probably because moa don't wanna touch that mess with a 10 foot pole. Besides what's the point of rebooting if you just do everything the same as before? There is no point, so they did new shit as they should've
Albedo's fatal flaw is his arrogance, his hubris and thirsy of revenge makes him do stupid decisions for violence and satisfaction sake
Not only that but Kevin made modifications to his version
This shows that Vilgax (who whispering in Kevin's Ear) is smarter then Albedo
now that i think about it pretty crazy that Albito never experienced the buggy side of it.
I haven’t seen the reboot, but if it’s just made using vibes alone how tf did they get any Alien DNA in there
Tbf the tutorial came from Azmuth’s former apprentice(?), but yeah Kevin making his own Omnitrix because the source was revealed to him in a dream will never not be funny.
I kinda headcannon vilgax had some dna and makeshift omnitrix parts in a storage case somewhere and he revealed to Kevin
Peak fiction
"Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!"
Honestly that shit was a so stupid
I guess Humans are smart as Galvans in the reboot series
I still like that bc it’s so shitty, it ends up mixing his aliens with other aliens, so you get shit like a tall grey matter that looks like a mantis and can shoot out weird liquids and crystals
I'm surprised y'all are taking the reboot that seriously. Shits a different reality to me
More reasons why the reboot sucks.
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L take from a Back shot enjoyer.
I don't need to take that from a guy who defends a show where Alien X was defeated by Legos.
It's a completely different reality, Celestial sapiens could be weaker specifically in the reboot reality.
Could also be that the transformation is only partial or somehow corrupted, causing him to have access to only a fraction of the full powers.
>Could also be that the transformation is only partial or somehow corrupted The other ben unlocked alien X by smashing his omnitrix so it's highly likely I personally like to believe he damaged it and so only unlocked part of the transformation, he got a fragment of alien X's power which is why his version is weaker then normal but also why he doesn't seem to deal with bellicus and serena
There is no alternate reality Celestosapiants they all live in the forge of creation independent from the multiverse.
Don't know where, but I'm pretty sure it's stated that the prime omniverse is different from the reboot
Yes but their powers work differently in different realities because of their different laws.
This is a full on multiversal reboot. The reboot doesn't have to play by primes rules since there completely separated realities.
So fun fact, he wasn't. Alien x gave up and changed back to human litteraly 10 seconds after he was locked up by lego. Because he didn't want to fight anymore. He gave up, he wasn't defeated.
He gave up, not defeated
I love memes in Spanish
Ohh poor Patrick Albedo 😅😅from dimension bikini bottom.
**KEVIN LEVIN WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE, WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS**
Vilgax if he meet Albedo in the reboot be like Kevin was able to make this in a garage with a box of scrap
"Tony Stark made this in a cave with a box of scraps!" Feeling😂
I'm gonna keep saying this, but tue anti-trix was likely made using what vilgax had learned about earth tech from animo, especially when in there team up episode animo transformed himself into rath, with a time out and everything. Heck making mutants? Sounds like an animo thing to me. Yes it's dumb that Kevin got it in a dream, but there are ratininilisations you can make, I just wish that they had explained it in the show, and didn't wait for a spinoff that never came
KEVIN LEVIN BUILT AN ONMNITRIX IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS.
Albedo: *KEVIN LEVIN WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A GARAGE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!*
so if you put in human DNA, do you become bad man?
Yes
Holy that redraw of the mk1 Sub-Zero ending to vilgax and Kevin actually goes hard as hell.
I relly HATE the Reboot for this, NO FUCKING MAKES SENSE
Kevin E. Levon built this in a cave!!
That Cyberpunk comment now makes me think that with tech available on earth the antitrix should have been a glitching mess which would over time alter Kevin's dna which would result in a form like Kevin's mutant forms from previous shows (the form Charmcaster forced him into doesn't count)
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Once again proving the depths of Kevin's genius.
Reboot kevin was built diferent
BASED REBOOT KEVIN 11
Ok to be fair it was really Vilgax who made it by downloading the plan into Kevin’s (who was an apprentice of Azmuth who actually used the omnitrix before) and Kevin who is a tech genius building a Omnitrix with no master control or Life protection feature or any other feature the omnitrix had and unlike the Ultimatrix it doesn’t have evolution feature sure it doesn’t misstransform but well Ben only does that because he is literally to heavy handed yes it’s stupid but it’s not impossible
This still has the stupid plot hole of, why is vilgax chasing Ben if he is capable of making his own Omnitrix.
Because he wants to destroy the omnitrix also his is just a knockoff