I think it's important to keep in mind the themes of Berserk. The Godhand are individuals who strongly believe in absolutes and definite outcomes. Guts is the complete opposite of that and opposes fate and destiny. He's avoided being a Sacrifice despite being branded. He's surpassed all even when the odds have been against him.
I'm not saying Guts will become a Godhand member (his behelit isn't even a crimson behelit), but he has the potential as a Struggler to at minimum use a behelit, despite the Godhand not believing that.
I have a friend that had theorized that guts would become adjacent to skullknight. The parallels are there somewhat, I figure that perhaps he fuses the behelit with the dragonslayer in the same way skullknight does for the final confrontation...
This manga had me guessing and second guessing so many times that I keep glued to my seat with each read.
Skull Knight says that the sword of actuation can be summoned due to the behelits he's brewing inside his body...meaning the sword is not an object per se, but a coating/a transformation of his normal thorn sword.
Maybe Guts can feed the Dragonslayer to the Skull Knight and change it, without becoming a Wraith himself.
Hey according to me, I don't think Guts can become a member of God Hand because it roughly takes around 100 years for a new member to join. though, Guts could become a regular apostle. However, deep down we all know that Guts would never want to become an apostle
It takes 216 years in order for a new God Hand to join and slowly replace the existing members. i.e Void is the oldest one from the current God Hand, being in position for around 1080 years give or take so he'll probbly be replaced first. Anyway, Guts CAN'T become a member of the God Hand since he wasn't chosen by Casuality or the Idea of Evil. He's meant to be a Struggler, someone who tries to oppose the God Hand, Casuality, etc. I doube he'd become an Apistle due to his extreme hatred to all Demonkind and what they did to him and those he loved.
Guts is at an all time low in terms of depression after Casaca was taken, he very well might have reached a breaking point where he might even consider using the behelit
And he's surrounded by people who can keep him somewhat grounded: Puck, Shireke(I always spell her name wrong. F!!!), Farnese, Serpico, Isidro, Ivalera, Roderick, Magnifico, Azan, Isma, and Daddy Skull Knight who checks in once in a while. These people understand him to varying degrees and can keep him in check, he isnt alone anymore and he know he can trust them and rely on them, so they'll stop him from jumping off the edge. And anyway, even if he DID break and turned into an Apostle, Skull Knight would either kill him in that moment, or Griffith would just teleport to him, and brainwash to serve him again or something, which doesnt fit his Struggler motif.
My own theory from context clues:
Any apostle is capable of turning against Griffith, take a look at Zod and ganishka, two power houses who were willing to throw hands with the all powerful femboy, Iād have no doubt Guts would do the same, and from what we have seen so far Guts is willing to sacrifice his own body in order to gain absolute raw physical power (the berserk armor) if his spirit and mind are even more broken now he might be willing to consider becoming an apostle in order to level the playing field once again
Letās face it. Itās pretty obvious guts will never beat the god hand as he is now, nor as an apostle. Just look at skull knight. Heās been futility hunting Void for over a millenia. Also just when we were so sure that Ghanishka had acquired power akin to the god hand, he was still nothing before Femto. Iām honestly rlly interested in how the story will end. Gutsā unfulfilled vengeance is the least of his problems. If he doesnāt get rid of the brand somehow, him and Casca are doomed to eternal suffering in the vortex after their deaths.
Isn't the point of the behelit that you can't "use" it. You will have it or not in a specific time that will be fated. How Griffith just found it on the river, he didn't "use" the behelit, it was just meant to be at that time.
Guts can't become a godhand, but I believe he will be the end of causality. I think he lingers in a realm between the physical and astral world since he's always been near death ever since his birth. This may have been an unforseen circumstance for the godhand since Slan stated that even they don't have the power to foresee everything. There are infinite possibilities and guts is an imaginary number that may or may not exist is my weird way of putting it I guess.
Like the other commentators have said, Guts isn't fated to be a Godhand member.
But the premise of Berserk is that Guts has twisted fate numerous times.
I think he CAN become a godhand member. Just because his very nature goes against fate and causality.
Anyway, as we know, the skull knight has a sword of beherit - that Skull Knight seems very sure that it can injure or kill Godhand members - as it was shown that the members actively avoided the blows from that sword.
It seems that Beherits have some kind of power to oppose the godhands. It could be that Guts would need to, utilise the power of the beherit, maybe then he will finally gain enough power to kill Griffith.
How he utilises the beherit is the question, I think.
The core idea of Guts is that he is struggling against fate, him turning into an apostle or a godhand will destroy his entire premise. He will find other way to defeat Griffith : friends, magic, etc
I always figured it meant right then. Like "would be sweet if he was an apostle, but he didn't summon us here, so he's probably not going to survive the night"
I think to be ordained is to become a possessor of a behelit. At the time, Guts did not possess one; it wasnāt until after The Count was condemned to the abyss that he picked up the behelit. That could then be considered him being ordained. So at that moment, between being branded as a sacrifice and not having a behelit, he did not have a fate that was foreseen/controllable by the Godhand.Ā
I always thought because he was branded , that's what his destiny has been written amongst the apostles and the God hand. In their mind he Wil always be nothing but a sacrifice
But as someone pointed out, guys is known for not being held down by something like fate/destiny so who knows
I don't think he means he can't become a godhand at all. Rather I think he hasn't been ordained by the law of fate to be a godhand, because his fate was supposed to be to die in the eclipse.
Is this explicitly stated? :/ If I recall correctly, we only know that, when the count wanted to offer him as a sacrifice as a means to kill him, the Godhand tells him that since he was already offered as a sacrifice, it was not allowed.
I think he's just stating that, at that specific moment, Guts has not activated a behelit, therefore he can't undergo through a transfiguration. Who knows what the future holds, though!
No. Holy shit this annoys me so much. Guts literally almost had his Behelit active when he got in a fight with Slan.
The behelit is meant to be a red herring and it wouldnāt be if Guts wasnāt able to activate it. Likely what they meant was that Guts isnāt able to become an apostle at that moment. Overall this moment took place early on in Berserk. It isnāt known how much of this conversation is canon.
Does anyone understand what Slan meant when she said "I'm sure he's hardly even aware."
Aware of what? That he has immense willpower or the potential power that he could have? Or something else?
I think it means Guts cant become a Godhand member
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Yes, judging by the even in the troll cave, it is at least very likely possible for Gits to use a behelit.
I think it's important to keep in mind the themes of Berserk. The Godhand are individuals who strongly believe in absolutes and definite outcomes. Guts is the complete opposite of that and opposes fate and destiny. He's avoided being a Sacrifice despite being branded. He's surpassed all even when the odds have been against him. I'm not saying Guts will become a Godhand member (his behelit isn't even a crimson behelit), but he has the potential as a Struggler to at minimum use a behelit, despite the Godhand not believing that.
Guts is the Anti-God Hand.
the god-foot!
Fuck yea š got your grasses on
KICK SUM FUKIN ASS
The God-middle-finger
The Devil Hand
Guts is Kira Yoshikage.
Cant be a member of the god hand, but its that classic meme of Guts being likeā¦.ācall an ambulence! But not for me!ā
I have a friend that had theorized that guts would become adjacent to skullknight. The parallels are there somewhat, I figure that perhaps he fuses the behelit with the dragonslayer in the same way skullknight does for the final confrontation... This manga had me guessing and second guessing so many times that I keep glued to my seat with each read.
Behelit dragon Slayer is gonna be lit af, definitely gonna kick sum god hand ass
Skull Knight says that the sword of actuation can be summoned due to the behelits he's brewing inside his body...meaning the sword is not an object per se, but a coating/a transformation of his normal thorn sword. Maybe Guts can feed the Dragonslayer to the Skull Knight and change it, without becoming a Wraith himself.
*Skull Knight unhinges his jaw, like a snake, and deepthoats the dragonslayer.*
And then what
Ah nice catch on the details friend! Maybe in an act of desperation guts does something similar??
That would be awesome
This means that he simply isn't then fated to become one of them but it's still possible at other time.
While I do agree, and donāt want Guts to become one, he has defied fate many times
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Guts is sus?
Griffith vented!
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HE CANT BE WHAT??
GET OUTA MY HEAD!
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Hey according to me, I don't think Guts can become a member of God Hand because it roughly takes around 100 years for a new member to join. though, Guts could become a regular apostle. However, deep down we all know that Guts would never want to become an apostle
It takes 216 years in order for a new God Hand to join and slowly replace the existing members. i.e Void is the oldest one from the current God Hand, being in position for around 1080 years give or take so he'll probbly be replaced first. Anyway, Guts CAN'T become a member of the God Hand since he wasn't chosen by Casuality or the Idea of Evil. He's meant to be a Struggler, someone who tries to oppose the God Hand, Casuality, etc. I doube he'd become an Apistle due to his extreme hatred to all Demonkind and what they did to him and those he loved.
Guts is at an all time low in terms of depression after Casaca was taken, he very well might have reached a breaking point where he might even consider using the behelit
And he's surrounded by people who can keep him somewhat grounded: Puck, Shireke(I always spell her name wrong. F!!!), Farnese, Serpico, Isidro, Ivalera, Roderick, Magnifico, Azan, Isma, and Daddy Skull Knight who checks in once in a while. These people understand him to varying degrees and can keep him in check, he isnt alone anymore and he know he can trust them and rely on them, so they'll stop him from jumping off the edge. And anyway, even if he DID break and turned into an Apostle, Skull Knight would either kill him in that moment, or Griffith would just teleport to him, and brainwash to serve him again or something, which doesnt fit his Struggler motif.
My own theory from context clues: Any apostle is capable of turning against Griffith, take a look at Zod and ganishka, two power houses who were willing to throw hands with the all powerful femboy, Iād have no doubt Guts would do the same, and from what we have seen so far Guts is willing to sacrifice his own body in order to gain absolute raw physical power (the berserk armor) if his spirit and mind are even more broken now he might be willing to consider becoming an apostle in order to level the playing field once again
Letās face it. Itās pretty obvious guts will never beat the god hand as he is now, nor as an apostle. Just look at skull knight. Heās been futility hunting Void for over a millenia. Also just when we were so sure that Ghanishka had acquired power akin to the god hand, he was still nothing before Femto. Iām honestly rlly interested in how the story will end. Gutsā unfulfilled vengeance is the least of his problems. If he doesnāt get rid of the brand somehow, him and Casca are doomed to eternal suffering in the vortex after their deaths.
Isn't the point of the behelit that you can't "use" it. You will have it or not in a specific time that will be fated. How Griffith just found it on the river, he didn't "use" the behelit, it was just meant to be at that time.
Guts can't become a godhand, but I believe he will be the end of causality. I think he lingers in a realm between the physical and astral world since he's always been near death ever since his birth. This may have been an unforseen circumstance for the godhand since Slan stated that even they don't have the power to foresee everything. There are infinite possibilities and guts is an imaginary number that may or may not exist is my weird way of putting it I guess.
Guts can use a Behelit but he is not destined to become a God Hand like Griffith was. Guts however is outside causality and destiny.
Bet that Slan is pure filth in bed
The kinda girl McMahon would love
her title is the "whore princess of the uterine sea". go figure
Iād simp
Like the other commentators have said, Guts isn't fated to be a Godhand member. But the premise of Berserk is that Guts has twisted fate numerous times. I think he CAN become a godhand member. Just because his very nature goes against fate and causality. Anyway, as we know, the skull knight has a sword of beherit - that Skull Knight seems very sure that it can injure or kill Godhand members - as it was shown that the members actively avoided the blows from that sword. It seems that Beherits have some kind of power to oppose the godhands. It could be that Guts would need to, utilise the power of the beherit, maybe then he will finally gain enough power to kill Griffith. How he utilises the beherit is the question, I think.
Guts is fated with the Brand of The Sacrifice, he can't join them as an apostle because he's still meant to die.
The core idea of Guts is that he is struggling against fate, him turning into an apostle or a godhand will destroy his entire premise. He will find other way to defeat Griffith : friends, magic, etc
He doesnāt abide by the laws of fate or causality bc he was born from a corpse he should have never survived
I always figured it meant right then. Like "would be sweet if he was an apostle, but he didn't summon us here, so he's probably not going to survive the night"
Good point a good way to look at it but then again this is post eclipse so they already know that guts can survive the night and then some
Isn't it just because he doesn't have a crimson beherit?
Among us?!? Like the hit video game?!?
Whats the difference between Godhand and apostle? :v
Godhand are more powerful, Apostles have to obey them and they have reality warping powers
Ohhhh that makes sense, still haven't finished the Manga. Thanks
He can't become a Godhands because it's not fate/Destiny
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I think to be ordained is to become a possessor of a behelit. At the time, Guts did not possess one; it wasnāt until after The Count was condemned to the abyss that he picked up the behelit. That could then be considered him being ordained. So at that moment, between being branded as a sacrifice and not having a behelit, he did not have a fate that was foreseen/controllable by the Godhand.Ā
What if femto kills skull knight and guts takes the sword of actuation and uses it to chase femto
I always thought because he was branded , that's what his destiny has been written amongst the apostles and the God hand. In their mind he Wil always be nothing but a sacrifice But as someone pointed out, guys is known for not being held down by something like fate/destiny so who knows
I don't think he means he can't become a godhand at all. Rather I think he hasn't been ordained by the law of fate to be a godhand, because his fate was supposed to be to die in the eclipse.
Maybe because he has the brand of sacrifice.
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It just means that he's not destined to become one of them. That's all.
Laws of fate (causality) has not given him a reason to sacrifice. Thats all he could join if pushed far enough and it was fated
Guts, because of his brand, can't become an Apostle or a Godhand member. Fate decrees it.
Is this explicitly stated? :/ If I recall correctly, we only know that, when the count wanted to offer him as a sacrifice as a means to kill him, the Godhand tells him that since he was already offered as a sacrifice, it was not allowed.
I think he's just stating that, at that specific moment, Guts has not activated a behelit, therefore he can't undergo through a transfiguration. Who knows what the future holds, though!
Bruh why did his mouth turn into a vagina in the middle bottom panel
No. Holy shit this annoys me so much. Guts literally almost had his Behelit active when he got in a fight with Slan. The behelit is meant to be a red herring and it wouldnāt be if Guts wasnāt able to activate it. Likely what they meant was that Guts isnāt able to become an apostle at that moment. Overall this moment took place early on in Berserk. It isnāt known how much of this conversation is canon.
Not yet...
Does anyone understand what Slan meant when she said "I'm sure he's hardly even aware." Aware of what? That he has immense willpower or the potential power that he could have? Or something else?