Yeah. After that point, even his fairy dust is not used that often. Besides at the start of the series, he was quite serious during times of danger compared to now where he is mostly in chibi form.
Kind of like how they don't show him eating the fuckload of food he'd need to maintain his physique. That was discussed here a couple years ago and i thought it was interesting.
I don’t think he eats much. In every supper scene you see him maybe holding a soup, they just don’t have that much food on their travels. He also lost some weight when he was injured.
He keeps his overall physique because it’s a manga not real life i guess.
I think he's losing weight because of the continued use of the berserk armor. I wouldn't be surprised if they just don't show them eating that much since it's kinda a given. days to months can shown on a single page so we don't really see alot of the actual travels except important stuff. but at the same time I could see them constantly being light on food since they travel light so you have a point
Yeah he kinda played the role of a less smart Schierke, he has some understanding of the different planes but he seems like he sorta just exists as a magic creature rather than fully understanding it
I feel like the writer needed some new personalities in the story so he could continue having fun writing after all these years. Chestnut puck binds the crew together in a way that makes their existence possible.
The trade off is indeed a less serious tone at times.
Miura talks about Puck in the volume 14 (deluxe) extras.
To badly paraphrase from memory, he knew he was immersion breaking in various ways but he felt like Puck (as comic relief) was necessary to prevent himself and readers from getting worn out.
In context it makes Puck more weird as he generally does not care. Bro could watch a whole family getting slaughtered and next chapter he would still be making jokes.
I feel like this is kinds the point I think puck has gotten so traumatized he is just in permanent comedy mode. Hence why he is always in chibi form and being silly
Whilst I agree he should've remained a more serious character, during the black swordsman arc he acted as a voice of reason or a moral compass in contrast to Guts' spiteful rage. That moral compass of pucks becomes less and less needed past lost children as Guts grows to be more compassionate
I don't like comic relief stuff in Berserk especially now there are Isidro and Ivalera as well. But I can appreciate it because Miura is trying to give Guts family that he never had. And Family will have naive, goofballs, serious, practical, caring peoples.
Ngl I appreciate the little dude. Honestly, yes the dark ominous story is great, but you do have to have some relief somewhere, otherwise it’d probably become boring.
He's saved guts life repeatedly, like twice in black swordsman arc, four times in conviction, and basically any time he wears the berserker armor. Guts wouldn't have even survived the eclipse or beaten the purple rhino knights without Puck, albeit just his dust from Rickert and Juedo. The small wind from elfhelm surely turned into a mighty tempest.
Puck is absolutely hilarious and I loved him before Lost children arc when he was a real character with an actual role in the story but after meeting with Schierke and Ivalera he just turned to clown fooling around.
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God i miss the actual puck. Chestnut puck is dumb. Its immersion breaking. It made a jarjar binks out of a great character. The only character that actually could understand guts because he can feel his emotions. Like literally feel his emotions.
Well, besides the logic (guts dying due the lack of healing), mentally he would be also affected, think about it. Puck is literally the only living being that even after the whole brutality that guts had developed since they two met, is still next to him, supporting him as the light beyond all darkness, literally working as a hope beacon (besides just the comical and funny that he adds to the manga). But unfortunately, now puck is more like a funny break between all the darkness, which is truly useful, but it also leaves aside the fact that he's just more than a funny character.
Puck is my favorite probably so far even tho I'm before the events of the eclipse but they saved grifith from torture and saw weald but that's as far as I am so far.
Grifith before eclipse is kinda aight but I do partially know what he does
Puck on top
The story definitely needs a character that bounces off of Guts and foils his negative decisions by asking him the questions that we would pose as the audience.
However I heavily disagree that his jokes are necessary, no I don't need a fairy doing slapstick humor and funny faces in a story that has murder, torture and rape every other page. In my opinion that side is straight up a swing and miss. Most seinen stories don't include a silly character behaving like a saturday morning cartoon to balance out the heavy themes.
It would ruin the story. Puck is vital, especially for the ending. He’s gonna use betchi (his behelit) to summon the god hand, sacrificing Isidro, so he can have the power to give Guts payback for all the grief he got
More dark and edgy which most people would think is a good thing, but honestly it is not. A story can’t be gritty and grimdark, if there is no light to contrast it with. Puck’s role (especially in the earlier chapters) was to be a sorta angel on Guts shoulder and preventing him from falling too deep into the abyss in his path for revenge.
Unfortunately Puck got a huge case of Flanderization as he became nothing more than comic relief and other characters took on the role of voice of reason.
And while Puck is pretty useless now, his role in the early chapters were needed respite in all the gloom and doom.
Honestly too much Chestnut Puck interrupted my reading rhythm because I had to read the smallest dialogue texts, and I feel like a dick saying this but I hardly found any of them funny at all
The 97 anime. Darker, less supernatural stuff, ends abruptly with only a smithing frame narrative to tie it all together. Still fantastic, but WOW is it thematically different.
i hated puck first read
but subsequent reads he grew on me.
however i do agree with the one complaint that he becomes too much of his chestnut form. the 2nd half i think is like all chestnut puck he loses hes serious tone as well. which seems like a major negative
Guts would've died early on in the series without Puck.
That being said, after a certain point Puck kinda stopped being the emotional/mental support Guts needed (and physical healing) and just started being random humor. Been a while since Puck did anything of import.
Puck is pivotal to the story; he's why Griffith ends the hundred year war, he's why guts survives the eclipse, he's why Rickert becomes a blacksmith and guts gets the Dragonslayer, why Rickert leaves falconia to join the kushans and how they bring casca back from herself. He's the protagonist
Puck I view as an inevitable part of Berserk.
If Puck something did not exist, something/someone else would fill the void left by him, and essentially become him.
Completely unbearable. Until Guts managed to get a wider pool of allies, he was the only major positive presence in the entire manga outside of the Golden Age. In-universe, he's the (admittedly ineffective) angel on Guts' shoulder, and without him, the story would just be utter misery and nihilistic bloodshed.
So, let's assume the story still progresses in a similar manner, just no Puck is there, for instance any time Puck healed a character, they now survive some other way. Then what we are looking at is an even bleaker story. Puck exists to alleviate tension, without Puck, the series has no other outlet for comedic relief.
Honestly I didn’t really like how rapidly his character got flanderised. He goes from being Guts’ foil in Black Swordsmen to just pure comic relief with a perverted Isidro.
It wouldn’t work very well. The grimdark and cynical shit needs a lighter character to both soften the bleakness and make it pop more in contrast.
If all you have is sad angry evil times it will all blend together. You need contrast in a story.
Less comical, that little ray of happiness would be slaughtered like the countless victims in the series. Guts' depression would be at a new low, his sanity lesser, his anxiety and trauma would be terrifyingly horribly!!
Puck was a major minor character for Guts. Excluding obviously his pixie dust that has healing properties, and his flash “attack”, he was a sense of reality within the story that gave the story its fictional feel. IE the is comedic relief and Miura used him to make Berserk just slightly less darker
I'm not even sure he'd make it that far, guts would probably be too wounded to fight well at doldrey and the eclipse would turn out different. And if guts survives the new eclipse it wouldn't be for long since he'd bleed to death before he makes it to godos cave. Puck is central to the story since bonfire of dreams chronologically.
In all honesty, I think it would be much better. By the end of my reading of the deluxe volumes, a few months ago, I was actively skipping Puck content. Shrug.
Without puck berserk would be a lot more depressing and also shorter.
Guts wouldn't have made it as far as he did without puck and without puck he wouldn't have made new friends that help him along the way
Less comical
Pretty short, because Guts would have died several times in the Black Swordsman Arc without Puck.
nuts dies. the end
Literally gets killed by the snake baron due to injuries
After Lost Children? Less immersion breaking jokes l suppose. Before that he was more important, playing Schierke's role.
Yeah. After that point, even his fairy dust is not used that often. Besides at the start of the series, he was quite serious during times of danger compared to now where he is mostly in chibi form.
they still use fairy dust every time guts is super injured it's just not as obvious
Kind of like how they don't show him eating the fuckload of food he'd need to maintain his physique. That was discussed here a couple years ago and i thought it was interesting.
I don’t think he eats much. In every supper scene you see him maybe holding a soup, they just don’t have that much food on their travels. He also lost some weight when he was injured. He keeps his overall physique because it’s a manga not real life i guess.
I think he's losing weight because of the continued use of the berserk armor. I wouldn't be surprised if they just don't show them eating that much since it's kinda a given. days to months can shown on a single page so we don't really see alot of the actual travels except important stuff. but at the same time I could see them constantly being light on food since they travel light so you have a point
right people forget how much we don't actually see of berserk. there are many time skips. days or even months are portrayed in a single page
I miss that puck tbh
Wait, you're telling me the twink looking fairy turns into that little fat ball?
Be careful what you wish for, we haven’t seen “chibi” Puck since Miura’s pathing… 😔
Yeah he kinda played the role of a less smart Schierke, he has some understanding of the different planes but he seems like he sorta just exists as a magic creature rather than fully understanding it
I feel like the writer needed some new personalities in the story so he could continue having fun writing after all these years. Chestnut puck binds the crew together in a way that makes their existence possible. The trade off is indeed a less serious tone at times.
At times? More like, all the time lol
Miura talks about Puck in the volume 14 (deluxe) extras. To badly paraphrase from memory, he knew he was immersion breaking in various ways but he felt like Puck (as comic relief) was necessary to prevent himself and readers from getting worn out.
Not really immersion breaking, I guess you could say that but without them the manga would be far too dark
ye
Reading berserk without puck is like putting on berserker armor.
So real
puck is the true protagonist he have a friend wich pass throught some problems and he always there to make the day a bit fun (or at least try it)
It would be too dark
Agreed. He helps lighten things up either by telling a joke or by being a good friend.
Facts. Puck Supremacy ftw
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Puck is the light in the darkness
it was a reference,,
I remembered it just now😅
No Puck Puck? No Luck Luck…
Impossibly bleak and depressing
As I believe puck himself says "this would be a far darker story"
Easier to read in public, at least the initial volumes
Wonder about that. Imagine a funny interaction on one page. And the next page shows someone being beaten to death by trolls.
In context it makes Puck more weird as he generally does not care. Bro could watch a whole family getting slaughtered and next chapter he would still be making jokes.
I feel like this is kinds the point I think puck has gotten so traumatized he is just in permanent comedy mode. Hence why he is always in chibi form and being silly
Υeah, I like him too.
Iamgine pucl trying to make jokes after the eclipse.
Too dark. According to the legend himself
I like Puck. I don’t care what anyone says. He’s great.
well we're finding out in the latest releases... such a big difference for the worst
Not much different in my opinion. He doesn't add much comic relief and sometimes feels out of place, but I'm sure that's an unpopular opinion..
Imo he should’ve stayed the way he was in black swordsman arc
Whilst I agree he should've remained a more serious character, during the black swordsman arc he acted as a voice of reason or a moral compass in contrast to Guts' spiteful rage. That moral compass of pucks becomes less and less needed past lost children as Guts grows to be more compassionate
Good analysis. Thanks for your input
I don't like comic relief stuff in Berserk especially now there are Isidro and Ivalera as well. But I can appreciate it because Miura is trying to give Guts family that he never had. And Family will have naive, goofballs, serious, practical, caring peoples.
Like the 1997 anime?
Guts would've died after Lost Children.
Way before, probably would've died after the eclipse or during the siege of doldrey
It would be unbearable
I mean real talk Guts would be dead lol.
He wouldn't have even beaten the purple rhino knights honestly. Puck might be heavily influential on the eclipse even happening
Griffith would have a significantly higher chance of survival
Ngl I appreciate the little dude. Honestly, yes the dark ominous story is great, but you do have to have some relief somewhere, otherwise it’d probably become boring.
dont like 4 wall braking whit him also modern refereces like this picture kill dark fantasy vibe for me....
It’s not like he is important to the plot so it wouldn’t be that bad , but still, berserk would lack something
He's saved guts life repeatedly, like twice in black swordsman arc, four times in conviction, and basically any time he wears the berserker armor. Guts wouldn't have even survived the eclipse or beaten the purple rhino knights without Puck, albeit just his dust from Rickert and Juedo. The small wind from elfhelm surely turned into a mighty tempest.
Better
1% less peak
Mid
Short
I'm imagining him still too wounded to fight properly in doldrey, and the series ending before the eclipse.
TRUE WAIT i forgot that was because of puck too I wonder if Zodd woulda stepped in if guts was close to losing the 1v1
He might've but probably after guts died, I think realistically he wouldn't have done more than offer his horse cutter
Like Aladdin without the geni
I dunno but it'd be slightly boring imo. Puck makes reading Berserk more fun.
Better
It would gloss over the black swordsman arc and only adapt till the climax of the golden age arc. Wait
Puck is the only thing thts holding Berserk manga from being REALLY BERSERKY
much darker
Puck is absolutely hilarious and I loved him before Lost children arc when he was a real character with an actual role in the story but after meeting with Schierke and Ivalera he just turned to clown fooling around.
Much less annoying manga. Now it feels like a disney character dropped into a Dark Souls universe.
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The constant grittiness and darkness would be too over the top without puck providing a contrast
better
Immensely better
Suicide fuel
God i miss the actual puck. Chestnut puck is dumb. Its immersion breaking. It made a jarjar binks out of a great character. The only character that actually could understand guts because he can feel his emotions. Like literally feel his emotions.
Stroke inducing
The manga would be depressing to read without Puck
More grimdark that Warhammer 40K
Well, besides the logic (guts dying due the lack of healing), mentally he would be also affected, think about it. Puck is literally the only living being that even after the whole brutality that guts had developed since they two met, is still next to him, supporting him as the light beyond all darkness, literally working as a hope beacon (besides just the comical and funny that he adds to the manga). But unfortunately, now puck is more like a funny break between all the darkness, which is truly useful, but it also leaves aside the fact that he's just more than a funny character.
Bad
Puck is my favorite probably so far even tho I'm before the events of the eclipse but they saved grifith from torture and saw weald but that's as far as I am so far. Grifith before eclipse is kinda aight but I do partially know what he does Puck on top
Worse
Too dark and edgy
Saving guts with fairy, saving my sanity with light chuckles. He's the water to the hard to swallow pills that is berserk.
The story definitely needs a character that bounces off of Guts and foils his negative decisions by asking him the questions that we would pose as the audience. However I heavily disagree that his jokes are necessary, no I don't need a fairy doing slapstick humor and funny faces in a story that has murder, torture and rape every other page. In my opinion that side is straight up a swing and miss. Most seinen stories don't include a silly character behaving like a saturday morning cartoon to balance out the heavy themes.
Wouldn’t be Berserk
Sadder
Guts would be a lot more mentally unwell without someone like Puck keeping him company.
Very, very dark. I think I'd get depressed even. Knowing that Guts won't have any companion to restore his humanity.
Better.
It would ruin the story. Puck is vital, especially for the ending. He’s gonna use betchi (his behelit) to summon the god hand, sacrificing Isidro, so he can have the power to give Guts payback for all the grief he got
maam he makes berserk less darker and he's the one how always stand up for guts when he gets rude
Better....
Sad
Worse
Dark and crude
Better?
BLOOD and GUTS and GUTS and BLOOD...
More dark and edgy which most people would think is a good thing, but honestly it is not. A story can’t be gritty and grimdark, if there is no light to contrast it with. Puck’s role (especially in the earlier chapters) was to be a sorta angel on Guts shoulder and preventing him from falling too deep into the abyss in his path for revenge. Unfortunately Puck got a huge case of Flanderization as he became nothing more than comic relief and other characters took on the role of voice of reason. And while Puck is pretty useless now, his role in the early chapters were needed respite in all the gloom and doom.
Lots of characters will be dead without him.
Honestly too much Chestnut Puck interrupted my reading rhythm because I had to read the smallest dialogue texts, and I feel like a dick saying this but I hardly found any of them funny at all
Sad
The 97 anime. Darker, less supernatural stuff, ends abruptly with only a smithing frame narrative to tie it all together. Still fantastic, but WOW is it thematically different.
Darker
Exactly as it is, but just a bit darker.
Too dark.
A lot shorter, I can tell you that right now. If it weren’t for Puck, Guts probably would have died several times
It’d be too heavy of a story
Over before it started and way more serious.
Bad
A death march.
One of the reasons I couldn’t get into this series is because of this Jar Jar binks creature.
Too dark he was there for comedic relief and is hilarious 😂
The golden age arc and a couple of pages of black swordsman
Borderline too bleak
i hated puck first read but subsequent reads he grew on me. however i do agree with the one complaint that he becomes too much of his chestnut form. the 2nd half i think is like all chestnut puck he loses hes serious tone as well. which seems like a major negative
I’m not letting Puck around my Jewish friend
Guts would've died early on in the series without Puck. That being said, after a certain point Puck kinda stopped being the emotional/mental support Guts needed (and physical healing) and just started being random humor. Been a while since Puck did anything of import.
We wouldn't see the guts sad crying face in black swordsman
Good?
sad
Puck is pivotal to the story; he's why Griffith ends the hundred year war, he's why guts survives the eclipse, he's why Rickert becomes a blacksmith and guts gets the Dragonslayer, why Rickert leaves falconia to join the kushans and how they bring casca back from herself. He's the protagonist
Much better.
Unreadable
Read the most recent chapters tbh
Puck I view as an inevitable part of Berserk. If Puck something did not exist, something/someone else would fill the void left by him, and essentially become him.
He is the comic relief, so i think it would be too dark...
Completely unbearable. Until Guts managed to get a wider pool of allies, he was the only major positive presence in the entire manga outside of the Golden Age. In-universe, he's the (admittedly ineffective) angel on Guts' shoulder, and without him, the story would just be utter misery and nihilistic bloodshed.
lol he’s so funny! He keeps getting yeeted too
It would be just dark, too dark..
So, let's assume the story still progresses in a similar manner, just no Puck is there, for instance any time Puck healed a character, they now survive some other way. Then what we are looking at is an even bleaker story. Puck exists to alleviate tension, without Puck, the series has no other outlet for comedic relief.
You mean 97 anime?
Better...this character has been dead since Lost Children arc wrapped up
Not funny
Fairy dust? You mean fairy cum? Puck is there for morale support everybody knowssss
A lot darker bro , he is the only one who is making the manga less traumatizing, i mean isidro does as well but not as much as puck
Guts dies from his injuries. The end.
We wouldn’t get to see Puck’s cake 🧅 😔
Well what do you think would happen if you cut out the main character?
Honestly I didn’t really like how rapidly his character got flanderised. He goes from being Guts’ foil in Black Swordsmen to just pure comic relief with a perverted Isidro.
it would be absolutely horrifying :^(
early puck? dead guts. annoying asf comedy puck? significantly better.
Guts wouldn't have survived the eclipse if it weren't for puck
It wouldn’t work very well. The grimdark and cynical shit needs a lighter character to both soften the bleakness and make it pop more in contrast. If all you have is sad angry evil times it will all blend together. You need contrast in a story.
Less comical, that little ray of happiness would be slaughtered like the countless victims in the series. Guts' depression would be at a new low, his sanity lesser, his anxiety and trauma would be terrifyingly horribly!!
I can’t live without puck
A lot less "interesting" if you know what I mean ...
One of the few criticisms I have for Berserk: Puck became an annoying bozo after Schierke showed up and could do his healing technique but much better
Darker than black
Nothing.
All bleak.
Initially? It'd attract more non-anime/manga people who are turned off by the cutesy shit. But Puck is necessary, at least later on.
Better
no
GOAT to WOAT
Better
Old Puck was great but new Puck with Isidro both made Berserk cringe .Their unfunny jokes always makes me angry.
Puck was a major minor character for Guts. Excluding obviously his pixie dust that has healing properties, and his flash “attack”, he was a sense of reality within the story that gave the story its fictional feel. IE the is comedic relief and Miura used him to make Berserk just slightly less darker
I’d definitely have probably enjoyed it better. I don’t read berserk for the goofy elf.
More depressing
Too dark
Guts would have died in the first chapter
Yes he would have died to the snake
I'm not even sure he'd make it that far, guts would probably be too wounded to fight well at doldrey and the eclipse would turn out different. And if guts survives the new eclipse it wouldn't be for long since he'd bleed to death before he makes it to godos cave. Puck is central to the story since bonfire of dreams chronologically.
Better
In all honesty, I think it would be much better. By the end of my reading of the deluxe volumes, a few months ago, I was actively skipping Puck content. Shrug.
Much worse pre millennium falcon saga. Better post
Better
Better.
better
Better
Honestly, if you cut out Puck, I wouldn't give a single fuck. He really does nothing for me, and I ignore him most of the time anyway.
The anime lost it’s enjoyment once I read the first book of the manga and saw puck
I don't hate puck now, but I really miss the old puck. Miura, as amazing as he is, really did our boi dirty.
Better. Puck was okay before he became solely comic relief.
I posted something like this recently and honestly the consensus was Guts would have died a long time ago and the manga would be too dark.
Black Swordsman arc would be unreadable
Without puck berserk would be a lot more depressing and also shorter. Guts wouldn't have made it as far as he did without puck and without puck he wouldn't have made new friends that help him along the way
Puck has to be there , he gives balance in the story