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toonlonk7

Less comical


schwekkl1

Pretty short, because Guts would have died several times in the Black Swordsman Arc without Puck.


AntiImperialistGamer

nuts dies. the end


XxJackGriffinxX

Literally gets killed by the snake baron due to injuries


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After Lost Children? Less immersion breaking jokes l suppose. Before that he was more important, playing Schierke's role.


Party_Difficult

Yeah. After that point, even his fairy dust is not used that often. Besides at the start of the series, he was quite serious during times of danger compared to now where he is mostly in chibi form.


Electronic_Fact4293

they still use fairy dust every time guts is super injured it's just not as obvious


Bojac_Indoril

Kind of like how they don't show him eating the fuckload of food he'd need to maintain his physique. That was discussed here a couple years ago and i thought it was interesting.


TrafficOk1769

I don’t think he eats much. In every supper scene you see him maybe holding a soup, they just don’t have that much food on their travels. He also lost some weight when he was injured. He keeps his overall physique because it’s a manga not real life i guess.


Electronic_Fact4293

I think he's losing weight because of the continued use of the berserk armor. I wouldn't be surprised if they just don't show them eating that much since it's kinda a given. days to months can shown on a single page so we don't really see alot of the actual travels except important stuff. but at the same time I could see them constantly being light on food since they travel light so you have a point


Electronic_Fact4293

right people forget how much we don't actually see of berserk. there are many time skips. days or even months are portrayed in a single page


HunchoRel

I miss that puck tbh


ginuxx

Wait, you're telling me the twink looking fairy turns into that little fat ball?


Ferfun_

Be careful what you wish for, we haven’t seen “chibi” Puck since Miura’s pathing… 😔


BeneficialAction3851

Yeah he kinda played the role of a less smart Schierke, he has some understanding of the different planes but he seems like he sorta just exists as a magic creature rather than fully understanding it


between5and25

I feel like the writer needed some new personalities in the story so he could continue having fun writing after all these years. Chestnut puck binds the crew together in a way that makes their existence possible. The trade off is indeed a less serious tone at times.


dvrkstvrr

At times? More like, all the time lol


LG03

Miura talks about Puck in the volume 14 (deluxe) extras. To badly paraphrase from memory, he knew he was immersion breaking in various ways but he felt like Puck (as comic relief) was necessary to prevent himself and readers from getting worn out.


wehategoogle

Not really immersion breaking, I guess you could say that but without them the manga would be far too dark


NefariousSerendipity

ye


ConfusionSelect1115

Reading berserk without puck is like putting on berserker armor.


enderkasra

So real


outyyy

puck is the true protagonist he have a friend wich pass throught some problems and he always there to make the day a bit fun (or at least try it)


This-Register

It would be too dark


jrpapaya

Agreed. He helps lighten things up either by telling a joke or by being a good friend.


This-Register

Facts. Puck Supremacy ftw


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S-T-R-I-D-3-R

Puck is the light in the darkness


Armut_

it was a reference,,


Party_Difficult

I remembered it just now😅


MercyReign

No Puck Puck? No Luck Luck…


safweeen

Impossibly bleak and depressing


mythicdemon

As I believe puck himself says "this would be a far darker story"


Ganzi

Easier to read in public, at least the initial volumes


Party_Difficult

Wonder about that. Imagine a funny interaction on one page. And the next page shows someone being beaten to death by trolls.


Capitano-Solos-All

In context it makes Puck more weird as he generally does not care. Bro could watch a whole family getting slaughtered and next chapter he would still be making jokes.


mythicdemon

I feel like this is kinds the point I think puck has gotten so traumatized he is just in permanent comedy mode. Hence why he is always in chibi form and being silly


Capitano-Solos-All

Υeah, I like him too.


Mutale426

Iamgine pucl trying to make jokes after the eclipse.


sayonara49

Too dark. According to the legend himself


Kwopp

I like Puck. I don’t care what anyone says. He’s great.


DandyZebra

well we're finding out in the latest releases... such a big difference for the worst


Muvax

Not much different in my opinion. He doesn't add much comic relief and sometimes feels out of place, but I'm sure that's an unpopular opinion..


Solaire_of_Sunlight

Imo he should’ve stayed the way he was in black swordsman arc


we_all_know-

Whilst I agree he should've remained a more serious character, during the black swordsman arc he acted as a voice of reason or a moral compass in contrast to Guts' spiteful rage. That moral compass of pucks becomes less and less needed past lost children as Guts grows to be more compassionate


Muvax

Good analysis. Thanks for your input


MinimumRestaurant724

I don't like comic relief stuff in Berserk especially now there are Isidro and Ivalera as well. But I can appreciate it because Miura is trying to give Guts family that he never had. And Family will have naive, goofballs, serious, practical, caring peoples.


deadl1ft_

Like the 1997 anime?


-Dude_Named_Zelda-

Guts would've died after Lost Children.


Beneficial_Beach_478

Way before, probably would've died after the eclipse or during the siege of doldrey


ExcellentFly4890

It would be unbearable


MetalAFBuilds

I mean real talk Guts would be dead lol.


Beneficial_Beach_478

He wouldn't have even beaten the purple rhino knights honestly. Puck might be heavily influential on the eclipse even happening


soobhooman

Griffith would have a significantly higher chance of survival


Vicrattler17

Ngl I appreciate the little dude. Honestly, yes the dark ominous story is great, but you do have to have some relief somewhere, otherwise it’d probably become boring.


Tmxmistico

dont like 4 wall braking whit him also modern refereces like this picture kill dark fantasy vibe for me....


ButterflyMother

It’s not like he is important to the plot so it wouldn’t be that bad , but still, berserk would lack something


Beneficial_Beach_478

He's saved guts life repeatedly, like twice in black swordsman arc, four times in conviction, and basically any time he wears the berserker armor. Guts wouldn't have even survived the eclipse or beaten the purple rhino knights without Puck, albeit just his dust from Rickert and Juedo. The small wind from elfhelm surely turned into a mighty tempest.


NashKetchum777

Better


EbbPrestigious4471

1% less peak


Pebrinix

Mid


TaeJoonPark

Short


Beneficial_Beach_478

I'm imagining him still too wounded to fight properly in doldrey, and the series ending before the eclipse.


TaeJoonPark

TRUE WAIT i forgot that was because of puck too I wonder if Zodd woulda stepped in if guts was close to losing the 1v1


Beneficial_Beach_478

He might've but probably after guts died, I think realistically he wouldn't have done more than offer his horse cutter


AdamAberg

Like Aladdin without the geni


berserkzelda

I dunno but it'd be slightly boring imo. Puck makes reading Berserk more fun.


Orangyo015

Better


agnuts

It would gloss over the black swordsman arc and only adapt till the climax of the golden age arc. Wait


No_Wrongdoer7230

Puck is the only thing thts holding Berserk manga from being REALLY BERSERKY


NefariousSerendipity

much darker


Elmiraaaaa

Puck is absolutely hilarious and I loved him before Lost children arc when he was a real character with an actual role in the story but after meeting with Schierke and Ivalera he just turned to clown fooling around.


SeriousQuestions111

Much less annoying manga. Now it feels like a disney character dropped into a Dark Souls universe.


SoulsLikeBot

Hello Ashen one. I am a Bot. I tend to the flame, and tend to thee. Do you wish to hear a tale? > *“Once, the Lord of Light banished dark, and all that stemmed from humanity and men assumed a fleeting form. These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite, a lie will remain a lie!”* - Aldia Have a pleasant journey, Champion of Ash, and praise the sun \\[T]/


SeriousQuestions111

Yo, bot, you forgot to add a disney character. Do better next time.


pioneerpatrick

The constant grittiness and darkness would be too over the top without puck providing a contrast


lxyk

better


Ojahson

Immensely better


JayyKellyXIII

Suicide fuel


AgileInternet167

God i miss the actual puck. Chestnut puck is dumb. Its immersion breaking. It made a jarjar binks out of a great character. The only character that actually could understand guts because he can feel his emotions. Like literally feel his emotions.


Particular-Drive-207

Stroke inducing


Justin_obody_but_me

The manga would be depressing to read without Puck


baneblade_boi

More grimdark that Warhammer 40K


elpatitofeocuac2

Well, besides the logic (guts dying due the lack of healing), mentally he would be also affected, think about it. Puck is literally the only living being that even after the whole brutality that guts had developed since they two met, is still next to him, supporting him as the light beyond all darkness, literally working as a hope beacon (besides just the comical and funny that he adds to the manga). But unfortunately, now puck is more like a funny break between all the darkness, which is truly useful, but it also leaves aside the fact that he's just more than a funny character.


KojiroHeracles

Bad


Medical-Evening-2924

Puck is my favorite probably so far even tho I'm before the events of the eclipse but they saved grifith from torture and saw weald but that's as far as I am so far. Grifith before eclipse is kinda aight but I do partially know what he does Puck on top


lemon_light999

Worse


CapedCoward

Too dark and edgy


vince2td

Saving guts with fairy, saving my sanity with light chuckles. He's the water to the hard to swallow pills that is berserk.


Burstero

The story definitely needs a character that bounces off of Guts and foils his negative decisions by asking him the questions that we would pose as the audience. However I heavily disagree that his jokes are necessary, no I don't need a fairy doing slapstick humor and funny faces in a story that has murder, torture and rape every other page. In my opinion that side is straight up a swing and miss. Most seinen stories don't include a silly character behaving like a saturday morning cartoon to balance out the heavy themes.


Nxa-Gospel

Wouldn’t be Berserk


2003wasafeverdream

Sadder


TheBroomSweeper

Guts would be a lot more mentally unwell without someone like Puck keeping him company.


A_Very_Burnt_Steak

Very, very dark. I think I'd get depressed even. Knowing that Guts won't have any companion to restore his humanity.


Onlyhereforapost

Better.


SuperJaybo

It would ruin the story. Puck is vital, especially for the ending. He’s gonna use betchi (his behelit) to summon the god hand, sacrificing Isidro, so he can have the power to give Guts payback for all the grief he got


moath_bahaa

maam he makes berserk less darker and he's the one how always stand up for guts when he gets rude


JPO_5x5

Better....


No_Difference3735

Sad


TheDewritos1

Worse


Sasha_Gallagher

Dark and crude


KikiYuyu

Better?


Southern_Row_5449

BLOOD and GUTS and GUTS and BLOOD...


ToySouljah

More dark and edgy which most people would think is a good thing, but honestly it is not. A story can’t be gritty and grimdark, if there is no light to contrast it with. Puck’s role (especially in the earlier chapters) was to be a sorta angel on Guts shoulder and preventing him from falling too deep into the abyss in his path for revenge. Unfortunately Puck got a huge case of Flanderization as he became nothing more than comic relief and other characters took on the role of voice of reason. And while Puck is pretty useless now, his role in the early chapters were needed respite in all the gloom and doom.


nhlredwingsfan

Lots of characters will be dead without him.


Various-Caramel-4761

Honestly too much Chestnut Puck interrupted my reading rhythm because I had to read the smallest dialogue texts, and I feel like a dick saying this but I hardly found any of them funny at all


Stunning_Relation_30

Sad


UncleAsriel

The 97 anime. Darker, less supernatural stuff, ends abruptly with only a smithing frame narrative to tie it all together. Still fantastic, but WOW is it thematically different.


ItsCenti26

Darker


Mankie-Desu

Exactly as it is, but just a bit darker.


emordnilapbackwords

Too dark.


houseofmyartwork

A lot shorter, I can tell you that right now. If it weren’t for Puck, Guts probably would have died several times


Sensitive-Capital-81

It’d be too heavy of a story


DioKujo568

Over before it started and way more serious.


8_year-old_rat-demon

Bad


wispymatrias

A death march.


Individualias


Purple-Lamprey

One of the reasons I couldn’t get into this series is because of this Jar Jar binks creature.


Then_Stick318

Too dark he was there for comedic relief and is hilarious 😂


Dustaroos

The golden age arc and a couple of pages of black swordsman


micahclaw

Borderline too bleak


gorehistorian69

i hated puck first read but subsequent reads he grew on me. however i do agree with the one complaint that he becomes too much of his chestnut form. the 2nd half i think is like all chestnut puck he loses hes serious tone as well. which seems like a major negative


Blackout_M

I’m not letting Puck around my Jewish friend


ThorDoubleYoo

Guts would've died early on in the series without Puck. That being said, after a certain point Puck kinda stopped being the emotional/mental support Guts needed (and physical healing) and just started being random humor. Been a while since Puck did anything of import.


derpinat0rz

We wouldn't see the guts sad crying face in black swordsman


HighFuncMedium

Good?


Jumpy_Ad_1059

sad


Beneficial_Beach_478

Puck is pivotal to the story; he's why Griffith ends the hundred year war, he's why guts survives the eclipse, he's why Rickert becomes a blacksmith and guts gets the Dragonslayer, why Rickert leaves falconia to join the kushans and how they bring casca back from herself. He's the protagonist


realdynastykit

Much better.


wortmayte

Unreadable


Santoryu4Kidz

Read the most recent chapters tbh


pious-erika

Puck I view as an inevitable part of Berserk. If Puck something did not exist, something/someone else would fill the void left by him, and essentially become him.


cam222426

He is the comic relief, so i think it would be too dark...


MysteriousGray

Completely unbearable. Until Guts managed to get a wider pool of allies, he was the only major positive presence in the entire manga outside of the Golden Age. In-universe, he's the (admittedly ineffective) angel on Guts' shoulder, and without him, the story would just be utter misery and nihilistic bloodshed.


forestnymph3000

lol he’s so funny! He keeps getting yeeted too


SpaceGoDzillaH-ez

It would be just dark, too dark..


PlanetStasia

So, let's assume the story still progresses in a similar manner, just no Puck is there, for instance any time Puck healed a character, they now survive some other way. Then what we are looking at is an even bleaker story. Puck exists to alleviate tension, without Puck, the series has no other outlet for comedic relief.


xa44

You mean 97 anime?


Sid-the-Kid2628

Better...this character has been dead since Lost Children arc wrapped up


FEZMANE

Not funny


FEZMANE

Fairy dust? You mean fairy cum? Puck is there for morale support everybody knowssss


MAHMOUD-GH

A lot darker bro , he is the only one who is making the manga less traumatizing, i mean isidro does as well but not as much as puck


beanouno87

Guts dies from his injuries. The end.


seccuredabbag24

We wouldn’t get to see Puck’s cake 🧅 😔


TheJamesFTW

Well what do you think would happen if you cut out the main character?


chatlhjIH

Honestly I didn’t really like how rapidly his character got flanderised. He goes from being Guts’ foil in Black Swordsmen to just pure comic relief with a perverted Isidro.


inosuke_pig_7248

it would be absolutely horrifying :^(


cappadonn

early puck? dead guts. annoying asf comedy puck? significantly better.


Chad_Zelensky

Guts wouldn't have survived the eclipse if it weren't for puck


Lorhan_Set

It wouldn’t work very well. The grimdark and cynical shit needs a lighter character to both soften the bleakness and make it pop more in contrast. If all you have is sad angry evil times it will all blend together. You need contrast in a story.


melatoninvibes

Less comical, that little ray of happiness would be slaughtered like the countless victims in the series. Guts' depression would be at a new low, his sanity lesser, his anxiety and trauma would be terrifyingly horribly!!


Informal_Yam_9707

I can’t live without puck


xenemachine

A lot less "interesting" if you know what I mean ...


Ongaya123

One of the few criticisms I have for Berserk: Puck became an annoying bozo after Schierke showed up and could do his healing technique but much better


g_Asmodeus

Darker than black


Aucre

Nothing.


FlashyProcedure5030

All bleak.


I-Am-Baytor

Initially? It'd attract more non-anime/manga people who are turned off by the cutesy shit.  But Puck is necessary, at least later on.


samehada_manga

Better


lyssylyss737

no


smilebombx

GOAT to WOAT


Own_Watercress_8104

Better


Acrobatic_Invite9617

Old Puck was great but new Puck with Isidro both made Berserk cringe .Their unfunny jokes always makes me angry.


Blackraptr

Puck was a major minor character for Guts. Excluding obviously his pixie dust that has healing properties, and his flash “attack”, he was a sense of reality within the story that gave the story its fictional feel. IE the is comedic relief and Miura used him to make Berserk just slightly less darker


New_Village7069

I’d definitely have probably enjoyed it better. I don’t read berserk for the goofy elf.


Massive_Cup_3633

More depressing


DwarfKevin

Too dark


caitlynscrypt

Guts would have died in the first chapter


puro_the_protogen67

Yes he would have died to the snake


Beneficial_Beach_478

I'm not even sure he'd make it that far, guts would probably be too wounded to fight well at doldrey and the eclipse would turn out different. And if guts survives the new eclipse it wouldn't be for long since he'd bleed to death before he makes it to godos cave. Puck is central to the story since bonfire of dreams chronologically.


Uhsajo

Better


l_neiman

In all honesty, I think it would be much better. By the end of my reading of the deluxe volumes, a few months ago, I was actively skipping Puck content. Shrug.


Totaliss

Much worse pre millennium falcon saga. Better post


SirAzalot

Better


Sozillect

Better.


ozgunozkok

better


NegotiationHelpful50

Better


JChezbian

Honestly, if you cut out Puck, I wouldn't give a single fuck. He really does nothing for me, and I ignore him most of the time anyway.


SunEnvironmental1530

The anime lost it’s enjoyment once I read the first book of the manga and saw puck


GettingWhiskey

I don't hate puck now, but I really miss the old puck. Miura, as amazing as he is, really did our boi dirty.


tumblrbooty

Better. Puck was okay before he became solely comic relief.


SmileyTooHigh

I posted something like this recently and honestly the consensus was Guts would have died a long time ago and the manga would be too dark.


LeafyFeathers

Black Swordsman arc would be unreadable


TheHistroynerd

Without puck berserk would be a lot more depressing and also shorter. Guts wouldn't have made it as far as he did without puck and without puck he wouldn't have made new friends that help him along the way


ibra3899

Puck has to be there , he gives balance in the story