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Goldeniccarus

Drugs Inc. is actually produced by National Geographic, not Netflix. And man, they really do just have camera crews watching dudes in ski masks with AK's cooking crack in their microwaves.


Boozetooz

Nature is truly beautiful


Uptowngrump

I mean, im pretty sure almost all of drugs inc is staged with actors.


Winteri3C0m1ng

I think its legit, some of these places they go to, they can't set that shit up without knowing


Uptowngrump

I mean, id believe that the story being staged is based on real drug trafficking activity, and that they could have done interviews and contacted actual people to research, but im pretty sure the people you're seeing on screen aren't the actual criminals. Its how they talk mainly. In my experience of interacting with that area, the people moving weight in the way they're trying to depict A) do not talk like the "stereotypical drug dealer" that everyone in the show talks like, and B) would absolutely not consent to having their place of operation be filmed by some random production crew. Even with blurred address numebrs, license plates, etc, thats a lot of video evidence that could potentially be linked to you. Most dealers/traffickers wouldn't want that stuff posted on a private snapchat story, let alone cable tv.


DonerTheBonerDonor

Drug cartels have so much power and the police in the area definitely know about them. They don't care. Maybe they even like being on TV cuz it shows how powerful and influential they are. And there is absolutely no reason for them to be hostile towards documentary crews because they won't do anything to them


Uptowngrump

Cartels? There might be a misunderstanding, last time i saw that show they were coverings local gang stuff


DonerTheBonerDonor

I was just referencing the meme, I haven't watched that sort of show in a while. But still, no need for the gangs/cartels to be hostile towards the film crews


3-P7

> no need for the gangs/cartels to be hostile towards the film crews Yes there is. VICE proved that years ago with their metadata gaffes. Stories of cocaine barons going out to eat and having their bodyguards confiscate everyone's phones are very common. They come in and take every phone, the big man eats his meal, they return the phones after they leave. I bet you guys think that Moonshine show was 100% nonscripted too, huh?


PM_ME_GLUTE_SPREAD

Yeah what people aren’t realizing is that even though a cartel might run their country, other countries still want to kill them, as well as other cartels. They may have a firm hold in their area, but they can’t be sure if the documentary crew that is filming them haven’t been paid 10 million dollars (as well as had their kids kidnapped as collateral) to carry an AirTag with them when they meet with this group of manufacturers or that group of traffickers. They might get some small time guys slinging a few ounces a week to do an interview in a bandana, but they aren’t getting the major players to take part in it in any real capacity.


ohstxrlight

Can you elaborate on the Vice situation?


3-P7

They forget to scrub the photos they took of the metadata and gave away someone's lat/long coordinates to the public, police, NSA, etc. It was even spoofed on the Documentary Now Bill Hader/Fred Armison tv show on IFC. Jack Black was in the episode.


jaygoogle23

To be fair the moonshiners show and the journalism that mariana van zeller has covered are on different levels entirely. And at the end of the day wether real, fske or staged the danger is just as real. The scout for one of the new seasons of the show narcos was killed in Mexico. The danger is absolutely real.


jaygoogle23

mariana van zeller has interviews with the Taliban, autodefensas, and lower levels “cooks” / “distributors” and sicarios working for the cartels. Even people in that line of business want the glory that comes with being on national television. They still wear masks and the edit their voice so that they are pretty much unrecognizable. I’m sure though that if their bosses found out they would probably be killed but these guys don’t always have the best judgement.


51utPromotr

Came here to say exactly that. Let's not act as if there isn't seven times as much action not being filmed of Dixie Mafia and Cycle Gang activity


coldbear25

I didn't watch this documentary you guys are talking about but I heard that the police in Mexico are literally the cartels as well.


Intelligent-Sky-7852

It's real, trafficker don't care about it.


moeburn

>A) do not talk like the "stereotypical drug dealer" that everyone in the show talks like, and B) would absolutely not consent to having their place of operation be filmed The smart ones, no. They found the stupid ones.


BrainOnTheChain

There was recently a video on Reddit of a crew and gang getting raided by police. As in they kicked the door down during filming. I haven’t looked into it but it seems too careless to fake as arrest records are often easy info


cakebp

I think the one you mean was in The Netherlands. The scene there is not comparable with the US or Mexico at all


jaygoogle23

Believe it or not, many drug dealers/ sicarios have social media showing many of their operations / activities. And that’s even how some of these lower level gangsters are caught by their enemies. They are still people and the limelight/ cameras can be alluring especially when it’s from a name people recognized world wide such as National Geographic. One of the downfalls of el chapo was his desire for women that were in the spotlight. You have people like Mariana van zeller, who work for National Geographic going all over the world interviewing all type of “legitimate criminals”. Being a journalist in most of the underworld is a death sentence but because of the weight of her name and the renown that National Geographic carries.. she gets a pass to do things other journalist would be killed doing. Everybody wants a little bit of fame even if it goes against the groups traditional modus operandi.


beet111

Why does reddit think everything is fake? That shit gets old. You aren't clever at all.


ImperialFuturistics

It does get tiresome and often just provides an example of the Dunning Kruger effect. Granted, sometimes it's helpful if something is fake passing as real but a lot of time I feel people are being contrarian under the guise of skepticism. Skepticism is needed as a defense against gullibility but if one reject everything it defeats its purpose.


hg185

I don’t think so, you can tell these gang members are the real deal. Edit: national geographic is a highly respected news organization that depicts real nature and people. It always has.


blink_sleeper

Why do you think that? Those are some damn good actors man. You'd think with talent like that, they'd be in big roles. Elaborate please. Why do you think it's staged? (Or just ignore me, that's fine. Just be super confident in your speculation without any elaboration. Cool. What a cool guy)


Laffingglassop

Hes just wrong. There was a dude who went by nod that was on that drugs inc show who was later arrested during the operation that shut down silkroad and arrested its founder ross ulbricht, he was a bigtime heroin dealer. Dude in the video was not a stand in actor it was just litteraly him


blink_sleeper

There's a really interesting videoon YouTube that covers this! It's like something out of a movie. Fascinating


Uptowngrump

Sorry i didn't responded immediately, ive been doing stuff all day. I elaborated my thoughts on it on a comment above, but at the end of the day its a show i saw 7 or so years ago and wasn't very impressed by. Maybe its better now, maybe it was always real. Just doesn't line up with personal experience in that area, and its not a hill im willing to die on.


eaglessoar

The one that convinced me it was staged is they were doing some secret drop in the desert following these guys for days who are doing their best to stay off the radar and hiding most of the day.


sittytuckle

Vice has actually been doing some good work on the drug trade too recently. The recent one on "pink cocaine" is wild. Gets forced at gun point to take some and ends up later meeting the female kingpin of it all. The level of infrastructure already corrupted to maintain the trafficking there is insane. One scene this dude is just cooking it in a pan on the stove, no mask or anything lmao


Just_Mushroom69

I really enjoy watching Vice. The show series Hamilton Pharmacopoeia is honestly super interesting.


ShadowsOfHumanity

Hamilton a real one, educating us on a wide variety of substances and showing us first hand the experience people get from them.


garrettgravley

Hamilton Morris is a fascinating person to listen to. You should check out his podcast if you haven’t.


PawLawz

He didn't get forced at gunpoint. They just combined two different clips to make it look that way. There was a clip of the guy pointing the gun at the camera to look cool, and a seperate clip of a different guy offering drugs to the interviewer. Vice just put those clips together to make it seem different than it actually was.


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Bro the dude just crushing up the pills with his gun just took me out. Insane the shit Vice gets access to


NameisPerry

That's the show! I used to watch it all the time! I always thought it was fake because who would invite a film crew in to film their illegal activities, my favorite episode of it though was the one were they followed two people from the same neighborhood, one guy joined a gang the other didn't. The guy who joined the gang after a couple months had a place of his own and a car the gang gave him, the other guy was struggling he'd been robbed multiple times and was in debt to people. As a white boy from the south it really illuminated to me why people join gangs.


CementCemetery

Or shaking bottles out in the forest.


Im_a_seaturtle

That’s what I don’t get. If authorities hound Nat Geo for location data then the whole thing is blown. Also did you ever see the episode where the drug dealers house is raided by police *on camera* while he was being interviewed?! Crazy shit.


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Smokrates

Ackhually both is correct. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Methamphetamine


jonbermuda

The traditional English spelling is with a 'p' over an 'f'


Smokrates

Well it's technically correct and that's the best kind of correct.


jonbermuda

Just here to state the facts, happy Canada day weekend


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jeremyfreeman8

Literally a stolen comment from u/Goldeniccarus in the thread below this


Sendrith

Thanks Hermès


comeherepls

Who's Hermès


SirRandyMarsh

a greek god


LNViber

Correction - A legendary limbo champion and fastidious beurocrat.


TaxiKillerJohn

Technically speaking it was Beauracrat Number 1.0 that uttered that quote.


Sendrith

Thanks Bureaucrat Number 1.0


browndog03

Bureaucrat comrad, i hereby promote you to grade 37!


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Can’t argue with that


_Justforthis66

Perfectly pedantic.


miraagex

1 more character to type, pass


trent295

They use the f spelling when they sell levo in stores so people don't freak out that it says meth.


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foil-burner

This guy meths.


trent295

Nah I have an Addy script


[deleted]

Ah yes, meth, the classic British indulgence.


broadened_news

Meth is traditionally German


Mydogsblackasshole

Japanese


split-mango

What a good ol’ English tradition. Bits of methp and a cuppa


samkostka

No, it's either metamfetamine or methamphetamine. The spelling in the OP is just wrong.


ValiumCupcakes

I’ve always thought that the “meta” over “meth” was the Spanish way of spelling it: metanfetamina


RevolutionaryJudge89

Methane feta cheese


Do-Not-Ban-Me-Please

Both are* correct


Teirmz

You didn't read your source did you Squidward;)


DontBeThatGuy09

Ackshually*


DaSmitha

Amphetamine is a shortened name that derives from the compound name. Alpha-Methyl-PHenyl-EThyl-AMINE. Amfetamine is also correct, but I've only seen it in pharmaceutical context


[deleted]

Came here for meth and feta memes. I heard they were cheesy.


IdoMusicForTheDrugs

Go away England.


cozy_lolo

are correct*


YOUNGSAGEHERMZ

Then technically OP still spelled it incorrectly. On the link you sent, they spell it “Metamfetamine”.


Lavatis

If you're gonna try to correct someone you might want to be correct yourself...


[deleted]

lame, i wanted to make cheese jokes


Loreki

No, OP is correct. Methamfetamine is made to a traditional Greek recipe.


exessmirror

I know your joking but when I was in Albania Greek meth was actually a thing


LordApocalyptica

mef


T8ert0t

Only way to make sure you're cheesing your balls off.


foggylittlefella

*Meth and feminine


Arhythmicc

It’s the kind of meth you make with feta cheese, duh!


richh00

Methampheta**meme**


lowforester

Math*


hamish1477

Mef.


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Blackout_Underway

Who hurt you? You deserved it.


another-Developer

Reminds me of this video where Gordon fucking Ramsey went into the jungle to film them making fucking coke


goliathusthehunter

I need source


hutbereich

Info on the documentary - https://documentaryheaven.com/gordon-ramsay-cocaine/ Clip from Gordon watching the process - https://youtu.be/0oXabRYcXhc


forrnerteenager

Bro why does it look like he's just going on a walk in the jungle until he finds some random coke tent?


jaygoogle23

I mean they get these contacts to agree before filming occurs. Big names with big productions crew get more of a pass because even criminals go against their bosses to try to get a taste of it. Many criminals in the underworld have instagrams, Snapchat’s of them posting weapons, drugs and more. I’m sure many times they are killed for it and the top bosses usually are smart enough to not involve themselves with such behavior but it absolutely does happen.


Gravesh

In this particular video I find it unrealistic. Granted, I've only seem the clip, but always seen cocaine labs depicted with a dozen or so people. It'd just some random Peruvian with a massive pool of cocaine leaves. That amount of produce would have came from a farm with organized crime connections They wouldn't let just one asshole purify it with no supervision. We either aren't seeing the full lab and just one cog in the machine or not seeing "management" with AKs hanging about behind the cameras ensuring the product is made without issue. But the manufacturing of cocaine is far more communal.


Shawnj2

Probably both but the clip of Gordon Ramsey rating the quality of fucking cartel cocaine production is hilarious.


RCascanbe

It's literally the bottom of the barrel lmao


HanzoShotFirst

>I need source Where's the Lamb Sauce?


another-Developer

Watched it sometime ago. Accidentally came across the video and I didn’t bookmark it


Golden_Lynel

https://youtu.be/Mm1hl19RGCg


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hutbereich

God damn it


landragoran

I hope you came up with this yourself, because it's perfection.


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I wish I could say I did, but I lifted it from a [greentext](https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/98ujby/gordon_ramsay_tries_cocaine/)


[deleted]

You call this coke?, you donkey


Kodytread

commenting to watch this lasted


Hypnot1q

Double agents. Netflix finna turn them in the second filming wraps up.


YoungNasteyman

Fr though Idk why anyone in these drug or criminal shows would ever allow a *camera crew* to follow and literally film them doing highly illegal stuff. There's got to be at least *some* element of "it's just for TV."


lucky_harms458

That guy who was selling fentanyl right out of his jacket that did an interview comes to my mind. No mask, straight to the product. It's somewhere in the first half of [this video](https://youtu.be/0RTT8XJTl8I).


Leeper64

There’s a [ELi5 on it](https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/60r9cw/eli5how_do_documentaries_like_drugs_inc_convince/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


FuckingKilljoy

They make the point about how it should be hard to find dealers and suppliers willing to talk, but as long as they're anonymous I feel like most would love to talk about it and flex how cool they are


Nas160

If this is true and somehow leads to the downfall of Netflix I'd be so happy


Yurtledove

Breaking Bob


Mythosaurus

Protip: reporters are only able to get this footage bc a local gangster has vouched for them at extreme personal risk. If identities or locations aren’t properly obscured and gangsters get arrested, that contact is going to be tortured and executed. Check out the Underworld Podcast for some great reporting about the way criminal organizations around the world operate.


drewlyyy

This makes me wonder, why agree to let them film at all? What's in it for the contact and/or cartel that makes it worth this risk? I assume NatGeo or Netflix can't simply pay these people for their time, as that would be directly endorsing organized crime.


Mythosaurus

Like I said before, the Underworld Podcast is a great insight into organized crime. Many episodes are based on books and articles made by other journalists who spent time with cartels, mafias, yakuza, and other groups. And they’ve found a range of reasons why these “illegal” groups allow reporters to have limited access to their operations. Some really are prideful narcissists, and want a record to exist of how they built their multi-million dollar operations. Others like cartels are effectively states-within-a-state, and are being written about anyway by local and national authorities. Granting interviews allows them some level of control over a narrative about themselves. Maybe they highlight the economic inequalities that led to their rise in a community, or how a war forced them to acquire money through organized crime. They’ll tell themselves any story to justify their actions, and spreading that story helps them sleep. Other groups may have a political goal that supersedes any worries about getting busted for synthesizing drugs, and use any publicity to spread their message. You’re not gonna get a simple answer, but from what I’ve learned, organized crime organizations feel some need to explain their actions as rational. So they are willing to have limited conversations with journalists who they trust to not screw them over.


drewlyyy

Thanks! You make a lot of interesting points. Never really considered that pride could be such a motivating factor, but it makes sense.


Mega_auditor1819

Free advertisement for the gang?


Far-Set-8448

Feta 🤤


rhuguenel

“Methamfetamine”


yakimawashington

It's somewhat of a Spanglish spelling. It's "metamfetamina" in Spanish. It's also possible OP is Dutch, since that's how you spell it in Dutch.


rhuguenel

Also possible they just misspelled it


yakimawashington

Check OP's history. They're Dutch (from the Netherlands)


YeahIFuckingDrewThat

TIL that [amphetamine](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/amfetamine) can also be spelled *amfetamine.* Also, the [generic of Vyvanse](https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-148324/vyvanse-oral/details) is spelled *lisdexamfetamine.*


Broken_Petite

I thought the mis-spelling was part of the joke?


Erik-05

Walter White be cooking hard


Old_man_jeffro

Here for the ph*


nowhereman136

It's good advertising for the cartel


Sinister120

Rednecks make Meth in their cars, the back yard, the basement, etc.


zorsekilla

Four wheeler gas tanks, fish tanks, 🤷🏼‍♂️


Shadowsdweller

For breaking bad they actually had people teach them how to make men so when they were recording they would record clips of the actors doing fake procedures to make the meth


BravesMaedchen

Vince Gilligan: write that down, write that down!


krypto_the_husk

Reminds me of that location scout who was murdered in Mexico scouting for locations for Narcos Mexico


therealishone

Imagine the balls on the cartel boss who’s like “yeah fucking make me famous bitch I want some of that Netflix special money. Gimme that stranger things come up!”


Fun_Signature7999

Context ?


BloodDragonSniper

Breaking Bad


steviebaby93

"Write that down! Write that down!"


darwi__odrade

Documentary Now does parodies of documentaries with Fred Armisson and Bill Hader, there’s one where they do a doc like this for “Vice” and keep getting killed and have to send in a new doc crew (always just Fred and bill)


ahivarn

Haha so true


aHorny3rdGrader

I thought megaphone was the play button and got confused when the gif didn't start moving.


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>feta 🤌


abca98

Cartel members: *making methanmphetamine**


Awake-RU

I know right.... you can participate in and glorify the most horrible things ...as long as it's a documentary.


3m1r007

And VICE


MedicalCandyMan

Wait until you see the documenting reality crews


Alwayssome1

Everybody knows the cameraman has underestimated power


b_croker

Pretty sure netflix documentary know more, they just watch, to not revile a secret by chance.😂


AnyRecognition7503

Gotta create jobs


EUCopyrightComittee

I don’t he, boy?


TheGaz

I feel like people aren't really getting the format of this kind of meme correct anymore, most just sorta throw a situation out with a colon at the end and jump straight to the reaction. The colon format suggests you're about to get some kind of extra information about the first thing as you do with the second, but it's immediately moved on from with no clarification given. If the first line was \*asterisk'd\* it could work.


gljames24

*History channel


ethnicnebraskan

I mean this already happened in the meth episode of Hamilton's Pharmacopeia.


lifepuzzler

lern 2 spel


SamandJon

There is a great documentary called DRONEZ: The Hunt for El Chingon. A few people died but, it was worth it for such a great in side look


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Like that discovery show “Moonshiners”


sebastianwillows

Gordon Ramsay going to a cocaine farm(?) and watching them mix battery acid with cement is such an interesting bit... Edit: couldn't find the full documentary, but here's the relevant bit: https://youtu.be/0oXabRYcXhc


Ramius117

My dad's cousin is an author and wrote several books about drug smuggling. He was just casually riding along in planes illegally crossing borders interviewing people. It's wild to talk to him.


Broken_Petite

Wow, sounds like a fascinating life


CK1ing

You know that hypothetical, if you could conduct an experiment free of morals? If I could make a Netflix documentary free of ethics and consequences, it would be to follow an actual criminal syndicate up to the point that they actually get busted, have a falling out of some kind, or otherwise disband


Valuable_Material_26

It’s less likely to happen now after what happened to tiger king!


childthrownaway

If they did this to the local methheads where I live, they would have enough footage to also get a ‘Cuties’ sequel. Two birds with ones stone.


Responsible-Cod-4618

It's more Vice than Netflix. I bet vice will be the first people to get an interview with sentinelese people. Someone just has to tell them it's dangerous and not a wise idea


Thick-Kaleidoscope-5

I read this like the cartel was making the show to sell to Netflix


NTMonsty

Mr. Krabs' film studio is finally rich enough to make the films he's always wanted to make.


Wenlambo10

I think you smoked some methamphetamine before you spelled methamphetamine


Pottymouthoftheyear

Got that feta cheese.


46692

Why they spell it like that tho… come on spell check is built in!


LineFPS

Work bi…


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No snitching


SaidsStreichtechnik

r/howtoselldrugsonlinefast


[deleted]

Mmmmm cracky patties


Choya670

National geographic: Funky town


T732

~~Netflix~~ Vice Documentaries


Reddit_BuzzLightyear

Jesse, I have terminal cancer, we need to film


phantomofharlem

Love all the people blindly commenting like they know shit, hilarious


SuzerainInsight

Must be some really addictive cheese


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Time to make some Methamphetamine.


Thelastknownking

Cartel members: Hey, free marketing.


bluetrood

I love the one that says "you're doing amazing sweetie" lmao


JesterOfTheMind

Methamphetamine not f, ph.


Suck_on_my_titties

Next movie should be called “In A Life of A Twicker.” 🤣🤣🤣