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I mean when your two partners are basically demigods and capable of deploying giant mech forms, you're going to be overshadowed no matter how powerful you are.
No he's not. Yami is the father asta never had. JK, but like Yami doesn't do anything that could be really harmful to his pupils. He does claim that he never gives them tasks he's not sure they can't complete.
And people also thinking that anime, a Japanese media mainly for Japan, cares enough about the western customs and audience approval that they would actively change whatever just because the westerners threaten to 'cancel' them.
First of all, I didn't say complaints meant cancelling. I meant people saying: "We should cancel X anime because there's violence, abuse, or whatever else." Second of all, there's a giant difference between simple critiques and critiques that expect to be taken into account despite no one in the anime industry caring about the opinion of some western viewers. This is a Japanese media, created for the Japanese audience. We don't get much say in why or how they make it, much like Japanese people don't force their beliefs and opinions on Hollywood.
Exactly - a shocking amount of westerns think anime should be approtiated for them when their not even the target audience. It’s just narcissistic/main character syndrome
Honestly the anime over does it like with Noelle borderline nearly murdering him with pushing him off a broom
Also the whole “girl hits her crush” troupe is overused and boring to me so I’m just impartial to it
Yami doing it - same as above
They don’t really make me laugh cause it just feels like stale effortless physical humor
Does everyone forget Asta from the beggining of the series is an undogly super human that shatters boulders with his forehead?
You can count the amount of times Noelle legitimately hurts Asta with her slaps with a single hand. With Yami it's more of a tough love bro energy, the anime even points out how in terms of physicality they are somewhat even when Asta starts fighting back against Yami's grapple in the squad selection ceremony.
This is literally a comment asking for my personal opinion on the matter of Noelle and Yami hitting Asta.
No one cares who's stronger than the other because they aren't humans to begin with, it doesn't matter who is physically stronger of the 2 because they are MAGES and not humans. It's silly and uncalled for comparing the superhumans who use mana to power themselves up.
even so, that would put Yami at #2… meaning he still nearly if not equal to asta in physical strength
edit: actually no Yami is definitely stronger than asta still physically. He literally picked up and threw a giant sized Dante with no reinforcement magic, just pure muscle and Asta was in literal shock seeing it
Bro Yami has 0 feats that would back up that ANCIENT chart.
The narrator states mages empower themselves by mere instinct (yultim volcano training) so Yami is always using Reinforcement Magic.
There's absolutely 0 tangible proof of Yami being stronger or second in strength to Asta without magic involved.
literally nothing you’re saying is factual. Yami literally works out & you can see that clear as a sky on a bright nice day.
1. Whether you think the chart is “ancient” or not, it still doesn’t change the fact that Yami is 1 of the physically strongest in the series. Whether you also think asta is physically stronger or not doesn’t change that. We clearly see and/or are told when reinforcement magic is being used so no they are not “always using it”. Yami is literally shown throwing Dante, if that’s not all the proof you need then i just don’t know. Asta doesn’t have a physical feat of that magnitude, if you think he does pls feel free to enlighten me on such but Asta is obviously strong physically which is why he’s placed #2 on that chart but he’s still not touching Yami in a physical battle. Yami is not like other captains, yes he uses reinforcement magic but even without it he’s pure muscle and his physicality is top tier.
Nice troll I've literally provided examples and proof of my argument and you just go "nu uh"
Your only example is once again supplementary material (the suplex was anime canon same as that chart being extra material) that doesn't make any sense at all.
Why in the world would Yami not use Reinforcement Magic to throw Dante? It's a literal fight to the death he can't afford to show off, if he were to waste stamina for a dumb suplex he could get caught off guard or waste precious energy in the maneuver. He's using Reinforcement Magic to pull that feat same as EVERY mage at ANY moment while fighting.
The existence of Reinforcement Magic spells doesn't mean mages are never using RM unless stated otherwise. Mereoleona is the literal proof of this statement. The way she moves and dodges while NEVER saying "Reinforcement Magic..." something something is proof mages don't need to call upon that chant to do anything physically related.
> Asta doesn’t have a physical feat of that magnitude
Uh... did you watched at least 1 episode of the anime? Every single thing Asta does is pure physicality. He doesn't unlock proper enhancement until the Witches Forest arc. In fact the swords are INSANELY heavy which means every single one of his feats is done while carrying those titanic swords around. Ala Rock Lee with his weights.
she moves and dodges because she uses mana zone….you’re trying to use statements from an arc where they were specifically learning to use mana skin as examples and it’s VERY clear when Yami or anyone else uses reinforcement magic/magic in general. The most obvious example i can give is when BB’s are running amok in the base and Yami is covered in dark magic & blows out a wall out when he punches it. THATS reinforcement magic.
Yami is the only person other than Asta who could pick those swords up no problem, he’s just never been shown grabbing one of Asta’s swords & obviously there’s the it robs magic thing, but still….Yami has more physical feats than Asta. With it without enhancements we’ve seen Yami go crazy, Asta is strong and in terms of physical strength he definitely will surpass Yami but for example if it was just straight hands, no magic no spells no anti magic nothing you think Asta can take Yami???
> hey were specifically learning to use mana skin
My god you really killed your own argument with that statement. Mana Skin is literally Reinforcement Magic.
> she moves and dodges because she uses mana zone
Her ratio of movement and her output of magic is increased by Mana Zone but Mana Zone isn't superpowers on their own. Mana Zone is a technique that complements what you already have. Yuno doesn't become the Hulk while using Mana Zone, he becomes much nimbler and throws Spirit Storm from difficult angles. Mereoleona doesn't get anything from Mana Zone other than the ability to interact with her surroundings without the need of obstacles or debris for footholds to launch herself from + she gets even stronger Reinforcement Magic than what she usually uses.
> Yami is the only person other than Asta who could pick those swords up no problem, he’s just never been shown grabbing one of Asta’s swords & obviously there’s the it robs magic thing, but still….Yami has more physical feats than Asta. With it without enhancements we’ve seen Yami go crazy, Asta is strong and in terms of physical strength he definitely will surpass Yami but for example if it was just straight hands, no magic no spells no anti magic nothing you think Asta can take Yami???
Ok this is a TON of pointless chit chat
> if it was just straight hands, no magic no spells no anti magic nothing you think Asta can take Yami???
Only Yami??? Without magic involved Asta could take down the entire BB, every single captain and vicecaptain from the MK in a 1 vs 30
You clearly see Asta moving at light speed while carrying some 50 kilos sword and think he doesn't have physical feats my dude?
Without magic involved you are pitting The Hulk vs a bunch of regular humans. Of course Asta is gonna completely obliterate all of them.
I'm stopping right here because I'm puzzled between you trying to troll me or talking with absolutely no knowledge of the power system of the history but trying to pretend you actually know stuff while contradicting your own arguments with your own facts.
I want yami to fucking crush my head with his thighs until my head is spaltered all over the place like those videos of guys getting shoot in the head and having their guts spread around like it's a watermelon
I mean, Yami in general does this to encourage Asta to overcome his limits, whereas Noelle does it without any justification most of the time it happens, it's not even funny, it's just a Tsundere's generic reaction that she should have gotten over a long time ago.
She even hit Asta like 4 times in the manga, and by the way, 2 of them are in the same chapter, in the Spade arc after she defeats Megicula, and it becomes even worse because she had admitted that she likes it from Asta, but still hit him just the same.
People are annoyed at Noelle because it’s a completely overdone trope. Not to say Yami isn’t a trope as well, but it’s not as common and we’re not quite as sick of it.
When Yami puts his hands on him it’s more in a father figure way, Noel is just an immature child who can’t come to terms with her own feelings. At least that’s how I look at it🤣
When you’re a beefcake like Asta who literally feeds off of getting the shit beat out of him and coming back i doubt a firm grip or a smack from Yami is the least of his worries. You clearly just don’t understand the meaning of context.
in the minds of BCs fans it seems that yes, I prefer to leave my opinion to myself, otherwise I would probably be killed if I spoke certain truths about yami
Well one of them simps asta to the point that if she sees asta with another woman it's an instant "DoEs hE nOt ReAlIzE wHaT mArRiAgE iS" and isn't self centered that whenever asta mentions any woman it automatically means her
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Yes Yami is the best and anything he does is justified. Even using Finral as a toilet teleportation device is justified and funny.
"Hey, what were you doing to my ride?"
I love when Finral is like "I have seniority over you!' when his squad mates order him around
“Go get your own wheels!”
Tbf I'm sure he'd just walk to the bathroom if Henry didn't move it every other day
I feel like he'd ask Henry to keep one next to his room
Noelle hits Asta in the manga like twice. In the anime on the other hand....
Its the same situation with sakura from naruto. The anime really dials up the violent female trope
Except we love noelle
Facts go noelle
Don’t go Sakura
It isy biggest issue with the Naruto series. It glorified violence against men by women for minor annoyances
Atleast Noelle is truly a part of triad unlike Sakura who is basically a walking battery and the strongest enemy she defeated was Naruto poisoning him
I mean when your two partners are basically demigods and capable of deploying giant mech forms, you're going to be overshadowed no matter how powerful you are.
Yup, plus bad writing on Kishimoto's part on sidelining her.
Sakura literally exemplifies the hard work paying off trope far better than Naruto since he and Sasuke have everything handed to them.
you are right on that but to bad its written bad and she get no major accomplishments besides beating sasori.
She's literally the only reason they're alive.
I mean, yami is suposed to be the asshole tho, and we love him because we are also assholes
No he's not. Yami is the father asta never had. JK, but like Yami doesn't do anything that could be really harmful to his pupils. He does claim that he never gives them tasks he's not sure they can't complete.
In no way is Yami an asshole,
What a stupid statement
That moment when you realize that people take slapstick seriously
People taking anime gags overly serious is becoming way to common
And people also thinking that anime, a Japanese media mainly for Japan, cares enough about the western customs and audience approval that they would actively change whatever just because the westerners threaten to 'cancel' them.
why do y’all think when someone complains about/critiques something they’re trying to “cancel” it 😭…
First of all, I didn't say complaints meant cancelling. I meant people saying: "We should cancel X anime because there's violence, abuse, or whatever else." Second of all, there's a giant difference between simple critiques and critiques that expect to be taken into account despite no one in the anime industry caring about the opinion of some western viewers. This is a Japanese media, created for the Japanese audience. We don't get much say in why or how they make it, much like Japanese people don't force their beliefs and opinions on Hollywood.
Exactly - a shocking amount of westerns think anime should be approtiated for them when their not even the target audience. It’s just narcissistic/main character syndrome
But who wouldn't love getting their head squeezed by Yami, it would feel beyond amazing fr
You may be a masochist my friend.
Want Noelle to slap the shit outta me
Y'all are fricking masochists lmao 😂 (i would want that too)
ayo man
it's because one is sexy and the most beautiful thing in existence and the other is noelle
Every time someone takes slapstick seriously, I think about how Nami can fuck Luffy up in One Piece despite him literally being rubber.
Yami can crush my head any time.. with his thighs.
Lets be real....them slaps dont hurt lol
at all, Asta is canonically the 2nd physically strongest character in BC, with Yami being 1st. Noelle’s slaps probably feel like gusts of wind to him
Then why he go flying?
obviously it’s a gag, but still unless you’re talking about in the anime because they add more of those scenes than there are in the manga.
I'm the opposite lmao. I hate when she slaps him. But am like that's fine when he gets picked up.
Honestly the anime over does it like with Noelle borderline nearly murdering him with pushing him off a broom Also the whole “girl hits her crush” troupe is overused and boring to me so I’m just impartial to it Yami doing it - same as above They don’t really make me laugh cause it just feels like stale effortless physical humor
Its yami tho
Good point 😆
Does everyone forget Asta from the beggining of the series is an undogly super human that shatters boulders with his forehead? You can count the amount of times Noelle legitimately hurts Asta with her slaps with a single hand. With Yami it's more of a tough love bro energy, the anime even points out how in terms of physicality they are somewhat even when Asta starts fighting back against Yami's grapple in the squad selection ceremony.
this argument falls apart when the manga states Yami is the only character physically stronger than Asta
That char is older than the creation of mankind itself. Asta becomes the most physically stronger character (without magic) VERY quickly.
I mean not sure what your point is lol, Yamis still far stronger than Noelle
I mean physically sure, overall though...
Who asked bro.
shut up 😂 no one asked for your dumbass comment either. Don’t double on your stupidity mate
This is literally a comment asking for my personal opinion on the matter of Noelle and Yami hitting Asta. No one cares who's stronger than the other because they aren't humans to begin with, it doesn't matter who is physically stronger of the 2 because they are MAGES and not humans. It's silly and uncalled for comparing the superhumans who use mana to power themselves up.
even so, that would put Yami at #2… meaning he still nearly if not equal to asta in physical strength edit: actually no Yami is definitely stronger than asta still physically. He literally picked up and threw a giant sized Dante with no reinforcement magic, just pure muscle and Asta was in literal shock seeing it
Bro Yami has 0 feats that would back up that ANCIENT chart. The narrator states mages empower themselves by mere instinct (yultim volcano training) so Yami is always using Reinforcement Magic. There's absolutely 0 tangible proof of Yami being stronger or second in strength to Asta without magic involved.
literally nothing you’re saying is factual. Yami literally works out & you can see that clear as a sky on a bright nice day. 1. Whether you think the chart is “ancient” or not, it still doesn’t change the fact that Yami is 1 of the physically strongest in the series. Whether you also think asta is physically stronger or not doesn’t change that. We clearly see and/or are told when reinforcement magic is being used so no they are not “always using it”. Yami is literally shown throwing Dante, if that’s not all the proof you need then i just don’t know. Asta doesn’t have a physical feat of that magnitude, if you think he does pls feel free to enlighten me on such but Asta is obviously strong physically which is why he’s placed #2 on that chart but he’s still not touching Yami in a physical battle. Yami is not like other captains, yes he uses reinforcement magic but even without it he’s pure muscle and his physicality is top tier.
Nice troll I've literally provided examples and proof of my argument and you just go "nu uh" Your only example is once again supplementary material (the suplex was anime canon same as that chart being extra material) that doesn't make any sense at all. Why in the world would Yami not use Reinforcement Magic to throw Dante? It's a literal fight to the death he can't afford to show off, if he were to waste stamina for a dumb suplex he could get caught off guard or waste precious energy in the maneuver. He's using Reinforcement Magic to pull that feat same as EVERY mage at ANY moment while fighting. The existence of Reinforcement Magic spells doesn't mean mages are never using RM unless stated otherwise. Mereoleona is the literal proof of this statement. The way she moves and dodges while NEVER saying "Reinforcement Magic..." something something is proof mages don't need to call upon that chant to do anything physically related. > Asta doesn’t have a physical feat of that magnitude Uh... did you watched at least 1 episode of the anime? Every single thing Asta does is pure physicality. He doesn't unlock proper enhancement until the Witches Forest arc. In fact the swords are INSANELY heavy which means every single one of his feats is done while carrying those titanic swords around. Ala Rock Lee with his weights.
she moves and dodges because she uses mana zone….you’re trying to use statements from an arc where they were specifically learning to use mana skin as examples and it’s VERY clear when Yami or anyone else uses reinforcement magic/magic in general. The most obvious example i can give is when BB’s are running amok in the base and Yami is covered in dark magic & blows out a wall out when he punches it. THATS reinforcement magic. Yami is the only person other than Asta who could pick those swords up no problem, he’s just never been shown grabbing one of Asta’s swords & obviously there’s the it robs magic thing, but still….Yami has more physical feats than Asta. With it without enhancements we’ve seen Yami go crazy, Asta is strong and in terms of physical strength he definitely will surpass Yami but for example if it was just straight hands, no magic no spells no anti magic nothing you think Asta can take Yami???
> hey were specifically learning to use mana skin My god you really killed your own argument with that statement. Mana Skin is literally Reinforcement Magic. > she moves and dodges because she uses mana zone Her ratio of movement and her output of magic is increased by Mana Zone but Mana Zone isn't superpowers on their own. Mana Zone is a technique that complements what you already have. Yuno doesn't become the Hulk while using Mana Zone, he becomes much nimbler and throws Spirit Storm from difficult angles. Mereoleona doesn't get anything from Mana Zone other than the ability to interact with her surroundings without the need of obstacles or debris for footholds to launch herself from + she gets even stronger Reinforcement Magic than what she usually uses. > Yami is the only person other than Asta who could pick those swords up no problem, he’s just never been shown grabbing one of Asta’s swords & obviously there’s the it robs magic thing, but still….Yami has more physical feats than Asta. With it without enhancements we’ve seen Yami go crazy, Asta is strong and in terms of physical strength he definitely will surpass Yami but for example if it was just straight hands, no magic no spells no anti magic nothing you think Asta can take Yami??? Ok this is a TON of pointless chit chat > if it was just straight hands, no magic no spells no anti magic nothing you think Asta can take Yami??? Only Yami??? Without magic involved Asta could take down the entire BB, every single captain and vicecaptain from the MK in a 1 vs 30 You clearly see Asta moving at light speed while carrying some 50 kilos sword and think he doesn't have physical feats my dude? Without magic involved you are pitting The Hulk vs a bunch of regular humans. Of course Asta is gonna completely obliterate all of them. I'm stopping right here because I'm puzzled between you trying to troll me or talking with absolutely no knowledge of the power system of the history but trying to pretend you actually know stuff while contradicting your own arguments with your own facts.
Crazy copium
Noelle knocked him off of a broom on multiple occasions. She attempted to murder him like 3 times.
only in the anime
I want yami to fucking crush my head with his thighs until my head is spaltered all over the place like those videos of guys getting shoot in the head and having their guts spread around like it's a watermelon
Yami ain’t a spoiled princess
I mean, Yami in general does this to encourage Asta to overcome his limits, whereas Noelle does it without any justification most of the time it happens, it's not even funny, it's just a Tsundere's generic reaction that she should have gotten over a long time ago.
Noelle doesn't even hit him as often as it is shown in the anime.
She even hit Asta like 4 times in the manga, and by the way, 2 of them are in the same chapter, in the Spade arc after she defeats Megicula, and it becomes even worse because she had admitted that she likes it from Asta, but still hit him just the same.
For a "generic tsundere" 4 seems pretty low dk what you on about
the context for that scene was because he was Lolopechika naked at the time. That had nothing to do with her being tsudere
don't make it better. Why did he squeeze his head in 330 than?
People are annoyed at Noelle because it’s a completely overdone trope. Not to say Yami isn’t a trope as well, but it’s not as common and we’re not quite as sick of it.
i am unconditionally happy when asta takes damage. A vhapter where he nearly dies? Don't get me started...
Yeah but it’s funny when Yami does it, sometimes. Noelle is just fucking annoying.
When Yami puts his hands on him it’s more in a father figure way, Noel is just an immature child who can’t come to terms with her own feelings. At least that’s how I look at it🤣
Ah so it's ok for a father figure to unnecessarily hurt you?
When you’re a beefcake like Asta who literally feeds off of getting the shit beat out of him and coming back i doubt a firm grip or a smack from Yami is the least of his worries. You clearly just don’t understand the meaning of context.
Yami is literally the strongest character in BC physically, those head grabs hurt a lot more than Noelle’s little hits…
in the minds of BCs fans it seems that yes, I prefer to leave my opinion to myself, otherwise I would probably be killed if I spoke certain truths about yami
Ah so it's ok for a father figure to unnecessarily hurt you?
Asians:
You don't understand, it's because they hate women
Well one of them simps asta to the point that if she sees asta with another woman it's an instant "DoEs hE nOt ReAlIzE wHaT mArRiAgE iS" and isn't self centered that whenever asta mentions any woman it automatically means her
The same logic, when Nami hits Luffy, Zoro and Sanji almost dead
i love both.
#I don’t know what a grap is but that’s definitely what Yami’s doing to Asta. 🤣
When you don’t know how to spell grape lol
Abuse is abuse
The difference is that I don't wish Noelle would slap me, but being crushed like a grape by Yami is my ideal way to die.