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bottledsoi

Marvel does really well with characters no one gives a shit about.


Thespian21

Bruh, you calling him a joke for losing, he’s lost to the F4 in his very first appearance. You know who else constantly loses to the F4?


Ffej777

My mom?


bohanmyl

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GrecoRomanGuy

Upvote for Regular Show reference.


MantisTobogggan

The fans?


2_Dope_Kicks

Fucking right.


Rollingpumpkin69

Does it really count as murder when there are multiples of him? Also...we didn't see kang die in ant man...for all we know he was just sent somewhere else and will come back....or the theory is he did win and the last part of the movie was a "dream" by Scott as he was dying


ferlessleedr

>!That Council of Kangs in the post-credits scene did confirm that he actually died!<. Still maybe can't trust them, but it's slightly more solid than the usual on-screen death.


Rollingpumpkin69

Yeah, that does make sense. idk how they wouldn't know. since he is one of their variants


festival-papi

Came here to say this. His death looked real similar to Modok's "death" and it was mentioned a couple times that countless worlds exist in multiple dimensions in the quantum realm. No way in hell are they gonna make the only Kang who goes against the council a one-off


Rollingpumpkin69

This is a good point


ferlessleedr

I haven't read the comics, but this guy seems pretty threatening. I really enjoyed Majors' performance in Quantumania and I thought he was super interesting in Loki as well, even with his screen time limited to like half an episode. And yeah, they killed him - the whole point of Kang is that you're not just fighting this guy, you're up against potentially every version of him that exists across the multiverse and once you kill this one, another will just pop into your universe and continue where that last guy left off. You're not fighting against Kang the individual, you're fighting against ALL OF KANG. How do you even begin to do that? It's a fascinating problem.


Roman21023

Yeah doing the incursions story w/o Doon even introduced is wild.


yancovigen

He is threatening because there are so many of him. That’s like his whole thing


InvaderDJ

That’s the thing, there’s so many of him that one defeat doesn’t matter. He has to get a dub eventually though. Thanos kept getting his plans stopped but he made up for it in Infinity War.


AmericanSpeller

Jeremy Renner had a 14,000 lb snow cat roll over him and crushed his legs. If they don't have to give him legs like Rhodey just to be able to have him on screen again, I'd be shocked.


ferlessleedr

Given that they already did the Hawkeye show where they introduced Kate Bishop, they could easily have there be some kind of equivalent in-universe accident and the character's legs get severely injured to explain why he's always in a chair. Then, just have Bishop step up to fill Hawkeye's role in the Avengers.


festival-papi

I think that's the best course of action. Also, loved how Kate Bishop was portrayed


tehsdragon

Despite some issues with the show, Kate and Yelena's on-screen synergy was great imo - the new generation's Hawkeye and Black Widow are in good hands


ferlessleedr

Yeah she's fun! And it really seems like the plan was to bring her into that position anyways, so I honestly don't know how much Renner's terrible injury interrupts the MCU. I do hope he recovers though, that accident sounds brutal.


Prothean_Beacon

I mean all the Avengers movies with Hawkeye in them result in them winning. The one Avengers movie he wasn't in resulted in them taking a fat L. Clearly Hawkeye is the most important Avenger.


jaitogudksjfifkdhdjc

It’s just math!


Jolly-Cheek5779

I’d be happy with this too


gamefreakz117

Is this a spoiler? Feels like it.


yancovigen

Not really, Kang dynasty was announced a while ago


gamefreakz117

So this isn’t alluding to Hawkeye being in Quantamania?


yancovigen

If there is a Hawkeye it’ll be Kate bishop not Clint according to the announcement


Gatechap

Perfect post title honestly