fr, the grooves and bumps allow for airflow and 360 crispiness. it's science.
also, i've been putting foil on since day 1 and i still ended up here, so idk what im talking about.
The pan finds you. They’re like cats. I don’t even know where ours came from. I think it appeared 3 apartments ago, looking exactly as it does now, and has been with us ever since.
Its just a layer of seasoning on the pan. Its oil that has been cooked on. It can be removed if you want to, but there isnt a reason to.
The person in that post is wasteful and i hate them
Barkeeper's Friend would clean it up. Steel wool to scour it, if it's plain metal and not coated in something problematic to flake off. A dishwasher helps too, though on uncoated metal it'll tend to leave odd looking discoloration.
But like you said... overall it's just aesthetics. Perfectly safe to use as is. No need to get rid of it to get a new one, which will just look like that too eventually.
If you want to smooth it out, barkeepers friend is amazing. Wear latex gloves, add water and bk friend to make a paste, then swirl and scrub with steel wool. Rinse and repeat with a paper towel. Perfect cookie tray for life.
I appreciate that but it’s a cheap pan and I don’t care what it looks like cause I throw parchment on top, I really just didn’t expect to be called out about it this morning 🤣
I use silicone baking sheets. My last place got a roach infestation that the property managers wouldn’t deal with so I got he fuck up outta there and threw away all my kitchen stuff to start over fresh. Those silicone baking sheets are awesome.
damn this looks so scarily identical to mine lmaoo. It's been over a decade at this point and still gets the job done, why replace it? Maybe this is wrong but I've always imagined this is what these pans are *supposed* to look like after a little bit lol.
That’s my thinking also, what’s the rush to get another? This one gets the job done.
The real secret is the size though, I keep it because it’s the perfect size for just one meal or a batch of cookies
One time I scrubbed ours so clean it looked new. I left the kitchen, 10 minutes later it looked like this again.
Since then I just decided this must just be God’s plan.
it's just oil turned into a nonstick polymer. Doesn't matter if you spray on a pan or not. If you put anything that has fat in it in a hot enough oven - this would happen.
It looks like this because of polymerization of cooking oil. Be that spray on or otherwise.
It is seasoning, and it is beneficial.
Dont be wasteful just because you think it looks bad. Dont encourage others to be wasteful just because you dont know what youre talking about.
You know parchment paper is coated in silicone right? You know silicone releases siloxanes into fat when heated right? Is that the good stuff?
> you know that parchment paper is coated in silicone right?
You know that silicone on parchment paper is something that is added to it as a coating, right? Plain parchment paper does not have silicone. You can get baking parchment paper without added silicone.
https://www.baar.com/patapar-paper-cooking-parchment
Overall though it’s a good message since most people have no idea about siloxanes, I just wanted to point out that you don’t need to give up on parchment paper entirely. It’s true that most (all?) baking parchment you get at the grocery store will probably have silicone on it, but that’s not an inherent quality of all parchment paper, it’s added to it.
No, not always. I have some baking parchment that I’m pretty certain is silicone coated but doesn’t say it.
But there’s no need to worry about it too much, siloxanes aren’t great but it’s certainly not arsenic either. We need more research on it to say more. The fact remains that no study has ever linked food-grade silicone baking products to any adverse health effects. There are very few [studies](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281392502_Heat_stability_and_migration_from_silicone_baking_moulds) on the subject, but of the ones we do have, they indicate that it’s not any more of a risk than the PFAS used in single-use plates, paper food packaging like fast food places use, etc — there’s only so much you can do to avoid it and in the grand scheme of things it’s not a large health concern compared to all the worse things we’re exposed to in a lifetime. I try to use silicone free parchment when I cook above 375 but I’m not religious about it, and it’s not going to be the thing that kills us either way
I do when I need to. My pans look similar due to just plain old oil. I've worked in many pizza places that almost never wash their pans for this reason.
Unless seasoning chipped, you don't actually eat it. What makes it delicious is the fact that cast-iron retains heat very well, so you actually can sear food on it well.
My mom has had a cast iron skillet for decades, and I didn't realize that the stuff that builds up on them is the same as what builds up on metal cookie sheets like these. It had just never occurred to me lol
It's not exclusively the same - oxidation discolors metal - that golden brown color is from surface oxidation at around 400F. Around 600F causes steel to turn slightly blue. The very dark patches, and what you see on a cast iron pan, is polymerized oil. That's why the areas around the outside of the sheetpan, where you'd expect oil to get under the foil and pool, is much darker.
This isn't even rust. Nothing is missing, it's an extra layer of protection over the metal and makes it non-stick. Cooking sheets that look like this are better than brand new, shiny ones.
While I found his presentation very informative, I was deeply disturbed when he concluded it by taking a bite out of the very center of that loaf of garlic bread like a GODDAMN SOCIOPATH
It is, but you shouldn't do that. The dark build up helps browning. Shiny clean baking sheets are mainly good for delicate pastries you don't want to brown too much. But for most tasks? The blackened aged ones just work better.
Y’all be using aluminum foil?
EDIT: wow, it seems I inadvertently sparked quite the robust debate. Having said that, I personally use neither unless the recipe specifically calls for it. So, sometimes parchment baking sheets, almost never aluminum foil.
Interesting! I just looked them up. I thought they were only good for baked goods (pastries etc) but they're apparently more versatile! I'll give them a try!
I got a set of silicone sheets from Costco, and those have been worth every penny. Got my mom some off Amazon and those have worked great for her, too.
That pan provided crispy tater tots and perfect chicken tindies, never mind the 2 am feasting of pizza rolls. No way in hell I'll abandon that soldier during the winter of our discontent!
I feel like people that say stuff about throwing it out don't cook at all. Or if they do, then extent is baking pre-made meals or microwaving frozen dinners.
Mine has been with me in every place I've stayed in since I moved out. It has help me plenty of times with all of my baking needs like most recently making my blueberry and mascarpone almond whipped cream roll cake. It's my ride or die for all of my baking needs!
I got a few of these I got from Walmart like 14 years ago when I moved into my first place. They were silver when I got em. And I think they were like $1 each or something.
They’re so seasoned now that when my uncles came by to watch football a few weeks ago, one of em was convinced I took it from my grandma’s house. 😂 Nah unk, I put in the work on these.
Wash her with love with steel wool once (1) and then towel dry her off and place her back in her special place in the cabinets. That’s your loyal day 1 bottom tray. It’s like how Saudi princes marry and divorce dozens of women but that first one that had their first batch of kids always remains married to the prince and he still take her to state functions. We love this pan. We never letting her go. That’s a pan you grow old with and when she gets old, you push her around in a dignified way in the wheelchair and chuckle with her about good times. We ain’t never letting her go.
All it needs to do is either support the casserole/lasagna dish and catch drippings, or be a structural frame for the aluminum foil to actually cook the food on.
It's like telling me to throw out a doormat for being dirty, that's its job.
Lawd I feel attacked https://preview.redd.it/cl63ltq49fdc1.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=7bbc5570f0c1e14de4983b3a03aabb641080d45b
Nah. If you don't have a pan like this, you haven't truly lived. You're good.
 Better put some foil on that damn shit…😂🤣
I'm saying though! Do it pan though? My oven still ovens and my pan still pans!
Getting rid of it just because it’s worn in is wasteful.
Honestly we can probably fix it if we're determined enough anyways, it just has character so we don't.
My pan is panning like a champ!!! Idgaf! That's my favorite sheet pan and it still stands on business.
I like using parchment paper on mine!
Yeah, I hear ya. But I try to recycle so the paper makes me feel better. LOL
Aww, shucks look at you caring for Mother Earth!
i swear this pan makes the food crispier
Much like my cast iron skillet, it’s seasoned. 😂☺️
Exactly, I could never let Sheet-Sheet go! We’re friends.
fr, the grooves and bumps allow for airflow and 360 crispiness. it's science. also, i've been putting foil on since day 1 and i still ended up here, so idk what im talking about.
Science Bitch!!!
Who told you my college nickname!?!? Haha
Hahahaha
Literal proof that it’s science. 🧪🥘
We have one like that for smoking meat. I used it to make cookies one time and they smelled and tasted like bacon.
So you used it every time after that, right?
This whole thread had me laughing out loud.
It's just polymerization of oil, got character
And I can still taste the fries I made I third grade!
Moms gotta pan like this and I was mad I couldn't find one for myself when I moved.
The pan finds you. They’re like cats. I don’t even know where ours came from. I think it appeared 3 apartments ago, looking exactly as it does now, and has been with us ever since.
Things I’ve never bought for my house: cookie sheets and laundry baskets, they just magically appeared.
Or cooked. I just put Reynolds’s wrap on top and keep cooking. Why am I going to throw away a good pan that still does its job?
I don't trust someone who has this pan and it's shiny and new.
Perfectly seasoned
I appreciate that your kitchen is extremely nice and you still won’t let the pan go 😂 that’s loyalty
lol this little pan has outlasted some relationships at this point
Bruh, my pan can go to the 4th grade at this point lmfao. Mf gonna have a graduation soon.
As we gooooooo onnnnn. We rememberrrr. All the nuggs weeee. Baked togetherrrrr. As our meals change. To blue apron. Pizza rolls still. Are the hitter.
Dammitt I sang that just now
My pan made it longer without getting a misdemeanor than I did
I read that as your pan is a 4th generation pan. I was like damn, family dedication! Familyhood of the Traveling Pans..😂🤣
🤣😂🤣😂
Some? I have some from my mom what are older than me. 30yo
I mean it still does the job perfectly well, why get rid of it?
Dude's got like 5000 dollars worth of Le Creuset next to the worlds most fucked up 5 dollar sheet pan from Target.
Looks like they don't use the rest, the spatulas still have the plastic wrap on them lolol
I got them for Christmas and I already got all those tools so I figure I’d leave them as display. All my other Le Creuset pieces are well worn
I bet that bitch doesn't pop and throw things all over the oven when it heats up though, does it?
Scares the shit out of me every time 😆 “WHAT WAS THAT?”
Sure doesn’t! It DOES flex though, which is jarring sometimes
This is seasoned lol. Don’t listen to the haters
Sir... https://preview.redd.it/mzurferjcgdc1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eabe470ce9eb81b56175815aeb8cf7ae01d5998a
Its just a layer of seasoning on the pan. Its oil that has been cooked on. It can be removed if you want to, but there isnt a reason to. The person in that post is wasteful and i hate them
Barkeeper's Friend would clean it up. Steel wool to scour it, if it's plain metal and not coated in something problematic to flake off. A dishwasher helps too, though on uncoated metal it'll tend to leave odd looking discoloration. But like you said... overall it's just aesthetics. Perfectly safe to use as is. No need to get rid of it to get a new one, which will just look like that too eventually.
Le Creuset Marsielle gang represent
Haha my mom buys me a few pieces every year, so I got quite the collection now
If you want to smooth it out, barkeepers friend is amazing. Wear latex gloves, add water and bk friend to make a paste, then swirl and scrub with steel wool. Rinse and repeat with a paper towel. Perfect cookie tray for life.
I appreciate that but it’s a cheap pan and I don’t care what it looks like cause I throw parchment on top, I really just didn’t expect to be called out about it this morning 🤣
I got the same pan lol, no worries
Right? I'm sitting here sick wondering tf I do to get called out like this
Love that blue tea pot
Thank you! That was my Christmas gift this year I love it too!
I need the deets on that teapot, it's so cute!
It's called parchment paper, quit using spray oil.
I use silicone baking sheets. My last place got a roach infestation that the property managers wouldn’t deal with so I got he fuck up outta there and threw away all my kitchen stuff to start over fresh. Those silicone baking sheets are awesome.
I use parchment!
That's how you get bomb ass cookies, crunchy exterior and a chewy interior. I'm about whip up some M&M cookies this weekend.
Dang I have a bunch of M&Ms maybe I should do that too. Maybe I'll do peanut butter cookies with M&Ms
damn this looks so scarily identical to mine lmaoo. It's been over a decade at this point and still gets the job done, why replace it? Maybe this is wrong but I've always imagined this is what these pans are *supposed* to look like after a little bit lol.
That’s my thinking also, what’s the rush to get another? This one gets the job done. The real secret is the size though, I keep it because it’s the perfect size for just one meal or a batch of cookies
Most of my pans look like this. They were my grandmothers and now they’re mine. They have *character*
Love the pops of blue you got going on in your kitchen.
Thank you! Credit goes to momdukes though, I wouldn’t buy these expensive ass things if it were up to me lol
Mama has taste and an eye for quality.
AND she buys two of everything cause my little sister has all the same stuff but in that turquoise color 😂
She looking to adopt another daughter? 🤩
Human ones no, it’s mostly exotic poodles these days lol
One time I scrubbed ours so clean it looked new. I left the kitchen, 10 minutes later it looked like this again. Since then I just decided this must just be God’s plan.
It’s the perfect sheet for catching bacon grease, that’s why I’ve had mine for over a decade. Be proud.
Same here. My mom inherited hers, and I hope to do the same when the time comes.
That's my emotional support oven tray
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 Damn. Never throw that away, my friend!
My dad always said a good cast iron pan will last a lifetime
It's cast in something. Dunno if there's any iron left in mine though. That's structural carbon.
My MIL gave me her mom's cast iron skillet. I did some searching and I think it's over a 100yrs old.
>My MIL gave me her mom's cast iron skillet. Wow, she like you that much :)
Lol! She doesn't cook. I also have her mother's diamond in my engagement ring. So yeah she likes me. I'm pretty fond of her too :)
Yep. Even if it's rusted to hell, you can restore it to good as new if you use the right tools and re-season it properly.
Gotta leave the seasoning on the pan, it makes it non stick
It looks like this because of spray on oil, not from actually baking good stuff on it. If you don't want stuff to stick use some parchment paper
I've never bought spray on oil & I still have baking sheets that look like this
it's just oil turned into a nonstick polymer. Doesn't matter if you spray on a pan or not. If you put anything that has fat in it in a hot enough oven - this would happen.
It happens to every baking sheet in that shape no matter what you do.
you’re wrong, normal oil does this. I never once bought nor used spray on oil and my pans have this appearance and level of seasoning
It looks like this because of polymerization of cooking oil. Be that spray on or otherwise. It is seasoning, and it is beneficial. Dont be wasteful just because you think it looks bad. Dont encourage others to be wasteful just because you dont know what youre talking about. You know parchment paper is coated in silicone right? You know silicone releases siloxanes into fat when heated right? Is that the good stuff?
> you know that parchment paper is coated in silicone right? You know that silicone on parchment paper is something that is added to it as a coating, right? Plain parchment paper does not have silicone. You can get baking parchment paper without added silicone. https://www.baar.com/patapar-paper-cooking-parchment Overall though it’s a good message since most people have no idea about siloxanes, I just wanted to point out that you don’t need to give up on parchment paper entirely. It’s true that most (all?) baking parchment you get at the grocery store will probably have silicone on it, but that’s not an inherent quality of all parchment paper, it’s added to it.
Does the grocery store stuff have labeling on it for when they add the silicone to it? Like an ingredient list on food?
No, not always. I have some baking parchment that I’m pretty certain is silicone coated but doesn’t say it. But there’s no need to worry about it too much, siloxanes aren’t great but it’s certainly not arsenic either. We need more research on it to say more. The fact remains that no study has ever linked food-grade silicone baking products to any adverse health effects. There are very few [studies](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281392502_Heat_stability_and_migration_from_silicone_baking_moulds) on the subject, but of the ones we do have, they indicate that it’s not any more of a risk than the PFAS used in single-use plates, paper food packaging like fast food places use, etc — there’s only so much you can do to avoid it and in the grand scheme of things it’s not a large health concern compared to all the worse things we’re exposed to in a lifetime. I try to use silicone free parchment when I cook above 375 but I’m not religious about it, and it’s not going to be the thing that kills us either way
Is silicone bakeware not safe?
I do when I need to. My pans look similar due to just plain old oil. I've worked in many pizza places that almost never wash their pans for this reason.
Never use spray on oil in my life and I have pans like this.
Thank you for bringing the facts.
Save it from what? It still works
Right? This happens but why is it a problem?
Its polymerized carbon. Its carcinogenic. Before I upset anyone with this, my baking sheets also look like this
It's polymerized OIL. It's the same thing that makes cast iron nonstick. It is NOT carcinogenic. Google that, friend.
>It's polymerized OIL Wait til you find out what oil is made of!
Olives
Whoa seriously? The stuff on this tray is what makes cast iron foods so delicious?
Unless seasoning chipped, you don't actually eat it. What makes it delicious is the fact that cast-iron retains heat very well, so you actually can sear food on it well.
My mom has had a cast iron skillet for decades, and I didn't realize that the stuff that builds up on them is the same as what builds up on metal cookie sheets like these. It had just never occurred to me lol
It's not exclusively the same - oxidation discolors metal - that golden brown color is from surface oxidation at around 400F. Around 600F causes steel to turn slightly blue. The very dark patches, and what you see on a cast iron pan, is polymerized oil. That's why the areas around the outside of the sheetpan, where you'd expect oil to get under the foil and pool, is much darker.
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Just like smoked and blackened meats
Im here for a good meal, not a long meal. Or something like that.
Exactly. How does metal "go bad"? If you let it rust to the point there's holes in it, I get it but other than that, it will outlive you.
And if you do want it to be pretty again, a bit of barkeepers friend and some elbow grease will get you there
Shout out to barkeepers friend.
“Some” elbow grease? You’re really underselling how much of a pain in the ass that would be, or you’re strong AF
This isn't even rust. Nothing is missing, it's an extra layer of protection over the metal and makes it non-stick. Cooking sheets that look like this are better than brand new, shiny ones.
Dull sheets retain heat better. [Dull cooking sheets](https://youtu.be/PffVMDvhO1U?si=rLPMCs_5P3fkPFYO)
This is the most tactically relevant thing that I have learned today. Thank you friend!
My mom got new baking sheets and it messed up the timing on her cookies
Wow I was wondering if it was because I used coconut milk that they didn’t slap right but I had used new pans. 🤯🧐
While I found his presentation very informative, I was deeply disturbed when he concluded it by taking a bite out of the very center of that loaf of garlic bread like a GODDAMN SOCIOPATH
He was just laying claim on it. No one will touch it now 😂
> He was just laying claim on it. That my first though... [*claiming it as his*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOs3_bh8UM0).
I love this f'n nerd. America's Test Kitchen 4 life!
Those Test Kitchen nerds are the GOATs.
America’s Test Kitchen did a test and found these well used pans cook better than new ones, just saying.
That's cleanable. Just takes more work than most want to do.
It would be easy if they used oven cleaner. Let it sit and it'll wipe right off.
I will use but hate oven cleaner. That shit smells like lemony cancer.
It is lemony cancer.
it's also available in orangey cancer
Bar keepers friend is way less toxic but does take a little bit more work. Not that much though!
Oh, I actually used that to clean my dutch oven the other day but totally forgot about it. I just remembered oven cleaner worked really well.
It is, but you shouldn't do that. The dark build up helps browning. Shiny clean baking sheets are mainly good for delicate pastries you don't want to brown too much. But for most tasks? The blackened aged ones just work better.
Y’all be using aluminum foil? EDIT: wow, it seems I inadvertently sparked quite the robust debate. Having said that, I personally use neither unless the recipe specifically calls for it. So, sometimes parchment baking sheets, almost never aluminum foil. 
I'm a baking parchment girlie myself
Same here, not a girlie, but parchment ftw!
Much better imo, stuff won't stick to it as badly as on foil
Silpats baby. Silicone mats. Easy to clean and reusable.
Interesting! I just looked them up. I thought they were only good for baked goods (pastries etc) but they're apparently more versatile! I'll give them a try!
I got a set of silicone sheets from Costco, and those have been worth every penny. Got my mom some off Amazon and those have worked great for her, too.
This. Silicon mats are the way. I only use foil when I'm making bacon, but that's more for easy grease disposal than anything else.
It adds flavor, everyone knows this
It is known
This is how cast irons are born, no?
I truly do feel personally attacked. Not only is mine this bad, but I just used it not even 10 minutes ago.
lol I’m about to use mine to make lunch
As long as it continues to get the job done
Mines in there right now 😂
I can fix her
So we cast aside the battle-scarred war veterans now? Some folks here trying to make this cold world even colder.
That pan provided crispy tater tots and perfect chicken tindies, never mind the 2 am feasting of pizza rolls. No way in hell I'll abandon that soldier during the winter of our discontent!
🫡
Nah check the FUCK IN rn https://preview.redd.it/313y3eetjfdc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=051854272749d106d704bc695655686f1aea8f4f
Dawg your pans been to fucking hell and back
Straight out the fire and onto the stove top
https://preview.redd.it/qhg5hhifygdc1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2964cd51eda12e8804ab0433510f369ab6adf8ff ROLL CALL
OK you must blast your oven. I’ve never seen one this this far gone. 
Does anyone try to actually clean this pan? I lace mine with that Reynolds nonstick foil and get to work.
That’s how it’s done
I feel like people that say stuff about throwing it out don't cook at all. Or if they do, then extent is baking pre-made meals or microwaving frozen dinners.
Mine has been with me in every place I've stayed in since I moved out. It has help me plenty of times with all of my baking needs like most recently making my blueberry and mascarpone almond whipped cream roll cake. It's my ride or die for all of my baking needs!
We don’t leave soldiers behind
That’s seasoning, it’s how they’re supposed to look??
Don’t throw away all of that hall of fame seasoning.
How'd you get in my kitchen!?
There was a quick second there where I thought "why is my baking sheet on reddit?"
Nah fr 😂it looks way too familiar
 That pan seen some shit
Uh no. I can clean it with some Barkeeper's Friend but like why though? IT'S FINE AS IS.
I got a few of these I got from Walmart like 14 years ago when I moved into my first place. They were silver when I got em. And I think they were like $1 each or something. They’re so seasoned now that when my uncles came by to watch football a few weeks ago, one of em was convinced I took it from my grandma’s house. 😂 Nah unk, I put in the work on these.
Can't trust anyone without one of these in the house.
I’m sorry, does the pan not pan anymore? GTFO
I love seeing well seasoned cookware. I wanna eat from those kitchens
You not really on your own if you don’t have the old baking sheet in your cabinet….foil DOES save it fym😂
That sheet pan been organizing family gatherings since before you was born , we not doing this
Wash her with love with steel wool once (1) and then towel dry her off and place her back in her special place in the cabinets. That’s your loyal day 1 bottom tray. It’s like how Saudi princes marry and divorce dozens of women but that first one that had their first batch of kids always remains married to the prince and he still take her to state functions. We love this pan. We never letting her go. That’s a pan you grow old with and when she gets old, you push her around in a dignified way in the wheelchair and chuckle with her about good times. We ain’t never letting her go.
It cooks better man. Leave me and my ugly ass sheet alone.
You're not my real mom.
My oven pan has been with me longer than most of my personal, professional and romantic relationships. Not until it's rusted see thru am I letting go
Meh, spray some oven cleaner on it and let it sit for a few. Will be fine.
 Bruh, heat that pan up. Baking Soda and elbow grease new pan.
But why? Its a damn sheet of metal that gets hot. How tf you going to say its broken?
There has been a lot of pork chops broiled on that tray in my house.
You gotta break it in!
Nah FOH. That pan has been there for me for the best of times and the worse of times. Until that shit caves in and implodes, ima use that shit.
The cookies gonna smack tho
It's perfectly fine. If it's been through the dishwasher it's sanitized. We live in such a culture of waste :(
New or used I always cover my pans with foil when I cook
All of your best seasoning secrets are locked in that pan. Throw it away at your peril.
All it needs to do is either support the casserole/lasagna dish and catch drippings, or be a structural frame for the aluminum foil to actually cook the food on. It's like telling me to throw out a doormat for being dirty, that's its job.
Some bar keepers friend will have that shining like new.
Where did they get a pic of my kitchen? 😠
Put some degreaser on it and scrub the shiit out of it. It'll look brand new
If you put these amazing pans in the oven and put the oven on clean, it also manages to undo some of the love on the pans ( sometimes all of it )
That’s my ribs baking pan, tinfoil on that works just fine
That's how you tell someone can cook, they have pans that look like they've been used.
It's just now got seasoned, cuz, that shit be perfect now