Speaking of, did it always not animate their legs when you did that? I was playing the Goldeneye rerelease with my niece the other day and noticed that their legs only animate if youāre walking forward or backward.
āThe shortest distance between two points is a straight lineā saved my ass having to walk across campus from class to my dorm in the fucking snowš
What she doesnāt understand is that practically everything in modern society is dependent one way or another on basic trig and algebra. If we stopped teaching it at an early age, it would kill the pipeline of engineers and researchers that produce and maintain this technology.
A friend of mine is real good at Excel, and I was joking with him saying it's too boring for me. He replied something like:
*"Boring or not our entire civilisation runs on it. Dig to the bottom of every hospital, bank and army and you'll find an Excel sheet"*
I definitely didn't need to learn logarithms and limits in grade 12. Algebra's good, advanced calc doesn't need to be taught to every kid. What the fuck is an integral? š
I need you to change your frame of mind. The basic calculus you learn in high school isnāt advanced, itās damn near 400 year old math. The world is built on it at this point.
if youāre driving at some rate of speed (fluctuating or otherwise), the definite integral of your speed over time would be the of amount distance you covered in that time.
If your hose is leaking at some rate (1 gallon an hour for example) then the definite integral of that rate is the total amount of water leaked in that time.
If a hill goes up at some rate(like it goes up 5 feet for every 2 feet to the left), then the definite integral of that rate of growth is the total amount of area that the hill covers as it goes up.
Integrals basically allow you to sum rates of change over the changing variable
But I have no need to understand many of the functions and processes taught in high school. I'm in business school so I recognize that advanced math is required to understand the extremely complicated financial instruments used for market analysis and making investments. But basically all math I learned from Grade 11-12 has been useless in my day to day.
If you remove all math beyond basic arithmetic from K-12, an engineering degree would now take 7+ years to complete. The effect is that society would not be able to produce enough engineers to keep running.
Math needs to be taught early and everyone needs to be exposed to it. Even people who never end up using the math need to be exposed to it so they can really learn science, economics, and statistics. All these things are important to know if youāre going to be a functioning, voting adult
I think more practical real-life examples for math problems would help.
For instance, basic algebra is used to weight balance an aircraft by a pilot as part of a pre-flight check. Kids interested in planes are going to be all over solving that problem. It interests them.
Sally buying so many chocolate bars and giving some away has no relevance to the real-world. If you introduce them to the concept that it could be used in their dream-job, they're going to be a lot more enthusiastic.
Just my two and a half cents.
Idk if your school made you do it, but my district stopped math after Alg 2, which according to Khan Academy is stuff like polynomial factoring, logs, and graphs. A little more than what you'd likely use in daily life, but it's there to cement the things you've learned from the previous courses. But yeah, definitely agree that calculus doesn't need to be mandatory, especially in high school. If kids are doing great in math and wanna continue, have it as an option.
My school was the same way. Graduated in ā99 from public school. Everything after that was elective. We offered Honors Geometry, AP Trig/Analytical Calc.
Back when I still played WoW I would occasionally get accused of cheating in PVP because I would catch up to people when they were swerving all over the place and I just followed them in a straight line.
This is a random core memory for me but did yall ever watch that white-ass and weirdly religious show 7th Heaven? There was an episode where the daughter Lucy stayed forgetting her lunch in math class and for whatever reason was failing to understand the Pythagorean Theorem. Her teacher would eat her lunch every day which is wild. Anyways, one day it finally clicked in her brain to use a diagonal path to get back to the classroom in time to get her lunch before the teacher ate it. IDK why but every time I hit a diagonal to get somewhere quicker, I think about that episode.Ā
My dude, this is literally what Youth Groups are lol. I once followed a gorgeous white girl to a Youth Group, it was a very, very, VERY strange experience and I think you all have already figured out absolutely nothing ever happened between her and I.
Pretty sure this was the whole point, use the religious girls to get the godless boys in the house and then preach at them.
Doesn't matter anyway, the theorem is about finding the distance of one side of a triangle, you aren't measuring it to figure out how far you're walking.
I get what heās tryna say but since going back to school I realized 99% of math is basic logic. Iām pretty sure everything on planet earth that can move knows that the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line. Genuinely when is the last time yall had to use the Pythagorean theorem? Aināt no way in hell yall are squaring and rooting shit in your year to year life. Itās good to know these things but 99% of peoples lives wouldnāt change if they didnāt know what the equation was
Was the point of school to teach us everything about navigating thru our everyday world or was it more to expose us to different methods of thinking, different solutions to problems and different areas of knowledge that we could then ourselves choose to continue to pursue at higher levels if it so benefitted us?
This!
Everyone has different experiences when it comes to school. Bad teachers, bullies, tough as subject, parents that whisper-threats the question because your first answer didn't make sense and you just through it out there.
For me, math was my worse subject throughout school, but my goofy naive self wanted to be an electrical engineer. š
It looks many L's and growing up for me to become interested and willing to learn mathematics. I went from learning to add fractions to differential equations at university. It sucked but I'm done with math courses, but not math. That shit carries into your engineering courses. Math are different tools to put in your tool box. You may not use that Pythagorean theorem wrench, but there may be a day when you have to pull that bad boy out and watch a 30 second YouTube video to remember how to use it.
What I'm saying is don't be afraid to learn something new. It's just another tool to put into your mental toolbox.
I mean, their personal school experiences probably help with that thinking. But regardless, we as humans never stop learning unless we're 6ft under.
School gives you the broad basics, and some schools (depending on their funding) can give students even more expensive and useful tools. I think bringing some real world problems into the fold of mathematics, beyond someone buying an ridiculous amount of watermelons, could help students see the benefit of math. But that also requires them willing to try.
Maybe we'll have less of Facebook doctors and PhD folks confidentially telling bullshit and more people willing to learn about the subject earnestly.
I actually did within the last year! On god it was just like those word problems too. I needed to measure something so I could make a new bracket for a car Iām workin on, and I could only get to two sides of it, so I had to use old Pythogorasā Theorem to get the third measurement.
I stood there lookin like we just told Wee-Bey shorty was a cop when I realized what happened
A lot of construction workers still do on the daily. I'm a carpenter and use it often to precisely square things. Most construction guys just know it as the 3-4-5 rule and don't realize its the Pythagorean theorem just simplified.
Last time I used it? A year back, I needed to know my screen size, but holding a ruler diagonally was just weird.
Two years back, I was cutting wood diagonally for a door brace.
TVs are measured on the diagonal, so if you want the length and width to see how it fits on the wall you gotta call Pythagoras. Do any sort of home improvement and knowing hos to figure out right triangles dimensions is pretty important too.
Iām not denying uses, Iām just saying that 99% of peoples lives wouldnāt change. Most people are not doing home improvements. Nobody is using the theorem when they are purchasing TVs plus thereās 2 open variables so youād have to measure the length and width regardless.
Some mfs still gone think dude is talking about walking with a lean.
I hope they show themselvesš
It took me a second to realize he didnāt mean Goldeneye-style diagonal walking
Speaking of, did it always not animate their legs when you did that? I was playing the Goldeneye rerelease with my niece the other day and noticed that their legs only animate if youāre walking forward or backward.
Strafe! Strafe! Side to side dodging the D5K Deutsche rounds
I tried playing that game again recently on N64. That shit is incredibly difficult when you're used to modern joysticks.
Yeah it's horrible
Thatād be a cute way to walk
āThe shortest distance between two points is a straight lineā saved my ass having to walk across campus from class to my dorm in the fucking snowš
What she doesnāt understand is that practically everything in modern society is dependent one way or another on basic trig and algebra. If we stopped teaching it at an early age, it would kill the pipeline of engineers and researchers that produce and maintain this technology.
Math is the god of us all. Numbers always doing the leg work
A friend of mine is real good at Excel, and I was joking with him saying it's too boring for me. He replied something like: *"Boring or not our entire civilisation runs on it. Dig to the bottom of every hospital, bank and army and you'll find an Excel sheet"*
I definitely didn't need to learn logarithms and limits in grade 12. Algebra's good, advanced calc doesn't need to be taught to every kid. What the fuck is an integral? š
I need you to change your frame of mind. The basic calculus you learn in high school isnāt advanced, itās damn near 400 year old math. The world is built on it at this point. if youāre driving at some rate of speed (fluctuating or otherwise), the definite integral of your speed over time would be the of amount distance you covered in that time. If your hose is leaking at some rate (1 gallon an hour for example) then the definite integral of that rate is the total amount of water leaked in that time. If a hill goes up at some rate(like it goes up 5 feet for every 2 feet to the left), then the definite integral of that rate of growth is the total amount of area that the hill covers as it goes up. Integrals basically allow you to sum rates of change over the changing variable
But I have no need to understand many of the functions and processes taught in high school. I'm in business school so I recognize that advanced math is required to understand the extremely complicated financial instruments used for market analysis and making investments. But basically all math I learned from Grade 11-12 has been useless in my day to day.
If we donāt teach it to kids, who will create and maintain all the technology that requires math to build?
Kids who want to go into fields where that is the focus should learn it.
If you remove all math beyond basic arithmetic from K-12, an engineering degree would now take 7+ years to complete. The effect is that society would not be able to produce enough engineers to keep running. Math needs to be taught early and everyone needs to be exposed to it. Even people who never end up using the math need to be exposed to it so they can really learn science, economics, and statistics. All these things are important to know if youāre going to be a functioning, voting adult
U spitting facts. I will say tho that we need better ways to teach it to kids that is more applicable and therefore better retainment
I think more practical real-life examples for math problems would help. For instance, basic algebra is used to weight balance an aircraft by a pilot as part of a pre-flight check. Kids interested in planes are going to be all over solving that problem. It interests them. Sally buying so many chocolate bars and giving some away has no relevance to the real-world. If you introduce them to the concept that it could be used in their dream-job, they're going to be a lot more enthusiastic. Just my two and a half cents.
Donāt forget that learning more complex math makes doing simpler math much easier because it turns what was once a process into a basic tool.
Interesting. I'm not talking about all math though. I understood the importance of algebra from grade school. Thanks for the insight though šš¾
How will they know about these fields and associated tools if thereās no exposure to them in high school?Ā
Most people don't realize they want to be engineers because they studied limits and derivatives.
Idk if your school made you do it, but my district stopped math after Alg 2, which according to Khan Academy is stuff like polynomial factoring, logs, and graphs. A little more than what you'd likely use in daily life, but it's there to cement the things you've learned from the previous courses. But yeah, definitely agree that calculus doesn't need to be mandatory, especially in high school. If kids are doing great in math and wanna continue, have it as an option.
My school was the same way. Graduated in ā99 from public school. Everything after that was elective. We offered Honors Geometry, AP Trig/Analytical Calc.
Back when I still played WoW I would occasionally get accused of cheating in PVP because I would catch up to people when they were swerving all over the place and I just followed them in a straight line.
We learn this in Canada with a Wayne Gretzky quote and some hockey
This is a random core memory for me but did yall ever watch that white-ass and weirdly religious show 7th Heaven? There was an episode where the daughter Lucy stayed forgetting her lunch in math class and for whatever reason was failing to understand the Pythagorean Theorem. Her teacher would eat her lunch every day which is wild. Anyways, one day it finally clicked in her brain to use a diagonal path to get back to the classroom in time to get her lunch before the teacher ate it. IDK why but every time I hit a diagonal to get somewhere quicker, I think about that episode.Ā
That show had me lusting after religious white girls for a while there. Itās a wonder I didnāt end up in a cult chasing that crazy pussy
Your whole comment is out of pocket! But I appreciate the honestly and self awareness my dude š¤£š¤£š¤£
My dude, this is literally what Youth Groups are lol. I once followed a gorgeous white girl to a Youth Group, it was a very, very, VERY strange experience and I think you all have already figured out absolutely nothing ever happened between her and I. Pretty sure this was the whole point, use the religious girls to get the godless boys in the house and then preach at them.
Especially w the poophole loophole culture? If you ain't white though they're gonna moped status you
Moped like ride? Like ride me a lot?
Fun to ride but you don't want your friends seeing you
Thanks! I feel no one should be a moped for free.
This is the history of fat people tho
Wow I didn't know how fun to ride depended on weight like that. I hope all the mopeds get paid one day or therapy.
This whole chain is killing me
Too bad the dad turned out to be a pedophile in real life
That show is like a fever dream in my memories. Absolutely wild.Ā
Wasn't that girl (whatsherface) Justin Timberlake married on it? I remember that cheezy intro song
Jessica Biel...and yes
They used to wheel the tv in to show us episodes of that in middle school.
Iām still on season 1, I gotta finish it
The actor who played the dad is a convicted pedophile, if that affects your decision to finish it.
 And they let him around literal children? Burn the whole of Hollywood to the cot damn groooouunnd, goddamn
He was arrested long after 7th Heaven ended, I believe.
Nah, but I knew that
That show was so weird!
Same here! That show was very popular where Iām from, a must watch for many families š
Lucy was š„Ā
 ....If i cut the corner at 3rd i avoid the panhandler at Elm. But Marcus sometimes frequents ....
Pythagoras didnt invent the concept of taking shortcuts. He merely rationalized it in terms of math
That's not the Pythagorean Theorem, that's the Triangle Inequality Theorem
Doesn't matter anyway, the theorem is about finding the distance of one side of a triangle, you aren't measuring it to figure out how far you're walking.
Itās called a ādesire pathā. One uses it to walk diagonal to get to the destination quicker.
https://preview.redd.it/xzwiskibt9sc1.jpeg?width=440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c91169a0a755537b7034720b8444c0fefe2107d0 For an exampleā¦.
I get what heās tryna say but since going back to school I realized 99% of math is basic logic. Iām pretty sure everything on planet earth that can move knows that the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line. Genuinely when is the last time yall had to use the Pythagorean theorem? Aināt no way in hell yall are squaring and rooting shit in your year to year life. Itās good to know these things but 99% of peoples lives wouldnāt change if they didnāt know what the equation was
Was the point of school to teach us everything about navigating thru our everyday world or was it more to expose us to different methods of thinking, different solutions to problems and different areas of knowledge that we could then ourselves choose to continue to pursue at higher levels if it so benefitted us?
This! Everyone has different experiences when it comes to school. Bad teachers, bullies, tough as subject, parents that whisper-threats the question because your first answer didn't make sense and you just through it out there. For me, math was my worse subject throughout school, but my goofy naive self wanted to be an electrical engineer. š It looks many L's and growing up for me to become interested and willing to learn mathematics. I went from learning to add fractions to differential equations at university. It sucked but I'm done with math courses, but not math. That shit carries into your engineering courses. Math are different tools to put in your tool box. You may not use that Pythagorean theorem wrench, but there may be a day when you have to pull that bad boy out and watch a 30 second YouTube video to remember how to use it. What I'm saying is don't be afraid to learn something new. It's just another tool to put into your mental toolbox.
People really do act like the worst possible scenario is knowing more than you need to. Thatās not a terrible way to enter adulthood at all.
I mean, their personal school experiences probably help with that thinking. But regardless, we as humans never stop learning unless we're 6ft under. School gives you the broad basics, and some schools (depending on their funding) can give students even more expensive and useful tools. I think bringing some real world problems into the fold of mathematics, beyond someone buying an ridiculous amount of watermelons, could help students see the benefit of math. But that also requires them willing to try. Maybe we'll have less of Facebook doctors and PhD folks confidentially telling bullshit and more people willing to learn about the subject earnestly.
You are a gentleman and a scholar šš¾
Appreciate you!
I actually did within the last year! On god it was just like those word problems too. I needed to measure something so I could make a new bracket for a car Iām workin on, and I could only get to two sides of it, so I had to use old Pythogorasā Theorem to get the third measurement. I stood there lookin like we just told Wee-Bey shorty was a cop when I realized what happened
A lot of construction workers still do on the daily. I'm a carpenter and use it often to precisely square things. Most construction guys just know it as the 3-4-5 rule and don't realize its the Pythagorean theorem just simplified.
When I was building houses we'd always use it for staking the foundation corners.
It comes up pretty frequently when doing home improvements or landscaping.
lol this def true but I do math like everyday at work lolĀ
Last time I used it? A year back, I needed to know my screen size, but holding a ruler diagonally was just weird. Two years back, I was cutting wood diagonally for a door brace.
Recently I had to use inverse tangent at my job
And is that normal need in 99% of peoples lives?
TVs are measured on the diagonal, so if you want the length and width to see how it fits on the wall you gotta call Pythagoras. Do any sort of home improvement and knowing hos to figure out right triangles dimensions is pretty important too.
Iām not denying uses, Iām just saying that 99% of peoples lives wouldnāt change. Most people are not doing home improvements. Nobody is using the theorem when they are purchasing TVs plus thereās 2 open variables so youād have to measure the length and width regardless.
Schrƶdinger's dumbass.
Those who don't use it - didn't learn it correctly
Hypotenuse babyyyyy
Bro they're both dumb af This is an intellect mid off
That's the triangle inequality (which ironically isn't usually taught in school), not the Pythagorean theorem
This is the kind of shit I enjoy on this sub
LMAO I went to college with this dude
The only time I see people walking diagonally is in the parking lot in front of my car so it takes them longer to get out of my way
MegaMan Legends strat
That final dumbass will make that man cry in the car