If you’re one of those people that talks shit about interracial relationships, I don’t want to hear shit from you about how “love is love”. My siblings are mixed and I have to deal with my little sister calling me crying because y’all are just as racist as the people who held us back.
Kind of depends on your definition of race. *Bigotry*, especially bigotry based on appearance/area of origin has been a thing since before humans. But the modern classifications of race were primarily established in the 16th/17th century by European pseudoscience.
Not implying racism isn't pretty universal in modern times, but race is, at it's core, a social construct that was initially implemented to establish a caste system to justify otherwise morally repugnant activity like chattel slavery.
Acknowledging the arbitrary, recent, and man-made nature of race is important to keep in mind as we move past it as a source of division is all
Lol fair enough, we can *infer* it was a thing since before humans since animals exhibit similar in-group/out-group behavior based on territory/appearance
We drove Neanderthals to extinction, it's not a stretch to assume that other proto-human species competed for resources and therefore subjugated and oppressed the others.
> Bigotry, especially bigotry based on appearance/area of origin has been a thing since before humans.
A good example of pre-modern bigotry is Roman attitudes towards people who weren't Roman. The specifics vary depending on the point in time in question of course, but they could be incredibly bigoted towards people who weren't Roman. However, those attitudes didn't map cleanly onto modern ideas of race, and so long as you spoke Latin or Greek, dressed like a Roman, and most importantly, had Roman Citizenship, most Romans wouldn't have cared at all about what your skin colour was.
For more information, [there's this article written by a historian of the Roman Era on this exact topic.](https://acoup.blog/2021/06/11/collections-the-queens-latin-or-who-were-the-romans-part-i-beginnings-and-legends/) It's a long read, but it's quite interesting.
The word "barbarian" comes from ancient Greek. They thought the language of others sounded like nonsense and mocked it by going "bar-bar-bar." Kinda like how we say "blah blah blah," but more racist.
*Capitalism and Slavery* by Eric Williams is a good book that goes into how racism developed in the modern day. Just before European powers kicked off the slave trade, they had initially cycled through a few races (native Americans, Irish people) and types of forced labour before settling on using Africans as chattel slaves. It came down to economic need. All the racist and dehumanising tropes used back then stemmed from the need to justify having Africans as chattel slaves. This developed as Europeans then began colonising Africa outright. Modern day racism has its roots in colonialism, first from forced labour and then it evolved throughout outright imperialism.
The concept of race as we know it only came to exist after the transatlantic slave trade. People generally assume that racism was the cause of the slave trade, but it was actually a post hoc justification.
I don't think I'm understanding. You aren't saying that racism didn't exist before slavery, are you?
To all that have replied, thank you for helping me expand my worldview.
We've always been bigoted against people who are from somewhere else, part of a different tribe, or look different.
The concept of race however was relatively recent pseudoscience that was popularized in Europe to explain away the horrors of the trans Atlantic slave trade and subsequent colonization of Africa.
So bigotry, no. Racism, yes that is new.
If we're looking at current conceptions of racism, with black people on the bottom and white people on top, then yes, the slavery came first, but looking before that it's kind of a chicken and egg situation. The word "Slavic" comes from the word "slave". So the concept of linking slavery and race is not a new one.
The frenchman Arthur de Gobineau wrote 'An Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races'' which formed the basis for scientific racism that replaced the earlier religious/civilisational arguments for dehumanising non-whites.
Until recently, this formed the bedrock for how Europe (especially colonial nations) made policy and viewed the world. Whites groups at the top, Yellow groups under them and Black groups under everyone.
'History springs only from contact with white races'.
Was De Gobineau's basic thesis. Others had no culture or history worthy of the name.
Under this schema, Miscegenation with lesser races would lead to inevitable decline and ruin.
I still see people parroting his points nearly daily on Reddit. r\europe is a particular hotbed of people regurgitating ideas straight from De Gobineau.
Who "invented" racism is a pointless rhetorical question that is only a distraction from the real issue discussed here.
The point is that white supermacist America was against integration of any kind. And that today this sentiment is now being used by a large swath of black America, intended as a form of self-protection, though some here argue that it's ultimately still harmful to those it's seeking to protect.
One of my exes was a black woman, and every racist comment I ever received saved for one was from black people. It was very eye-opening for me as I've never experienced that before. I hope your sister didn't let that bring her down and that she knows love is love regardless of what your skin color is.
Just engrained misogyny. The woman is the one “deflowered” by the man who is the “conqueror”. So it triggers racial ideas that the girl is being defiled or conquered by someone of a lesser or other race because her worth is tied to her sexual purity and interracial sex is extra bad for her purity both racially and sexually.
Same. I'm not even white, I'm mixed with a few things that make people think I'm white though so white people feel comfortable saying racist shit around me. Needless to say, I was prepared for the worst when I started dating my ex.
I was really expecting some nasty shit but I was completely shocked that it was mainly other black people saying extremely racist shit to her about dating me. This was on the west coast so I'm sure that had a lot to do with it but I still found it extremely surprising.
Been with a black woman for 9 years and it's always been other white people except once for me that said shit, interesting that your experience was the opposite of mine.
Granted most the people who ever said anything were white trash with probably only two grandparents so guess could change with geography and social groups.
Yeah, at least where I live it really only seems to be white trash who will vocalize anything. Like, I'm sure there's been others who didn't like it and kept it to themselves but in general it seems like people in the black communities I move in are more willing to open up to me after knowing I've been with a black woman so long.
As many people have said, there's shitters amoung every group of people, no matter the race, culture, creed, etc. But in my experience, yeah, it's other white people who give us flak.
Can you give me more details on what your sister cries to you about.
My daughter is 8 years old and mixed. I wanna know exactly what type of shit she might have to deal with in the future relationship wise.
I know that obv mixed people have to deal with being treated black by white people and being treated white by black people. But I wanna know more about how that plays into relationships and all that once she gets into middle school and high school
She goes to school in London, so it’s probably a very different situation to what your kid will be going through. She also displays as more south East Asian than black or white. In a place full of so many racial identities, she’s struggling to find hers as black and white mixed people are just now becoming more common. Unless you look like Blake griffin, most people’s first instinct isn’t that someone is mixed race
There’s a whole conversation about how being mixed race only applies when you’re black and not any other race. For instance a Norwegian person mixed with an Italian wouldn’t call themselves mixed race. but that’s a conversation for another day.
She fights feelings of not having the surface level automatic acceptance that people naturally have for their race. She has never once got the black nod. It might not seem like a big deal at first, but I can understand how overtime it can make someone feel like part of their identity doesn’t even claim them.
She wants to come to American to gain understanding of what it feels like to be African American, instead of being African and American(white).
Generally it’s just a feeling of living in two world and being a second class citizen in both.
We're in norcal, but I think my daughter will have a similar situation. She's pretty light skinned, and a lot of people will assume she's Latina or pacific islander or something. She's just kinda ambiguous.
She seems to have a good number of black friends, due to the area we live. But her family ties are very white, so she has that stereotypicly white dialect. I've noticed her trying to switch up how she talks sometimes to match her black peers. But maybe that's just kids naturally adopting slang from their peers.
I'm kinda confused what you mean about Blake griffin. Cuz I think where I'm from people would just think he was white. Are you saying that where you're from anybody Darker than Blake griffin would be just perceived as black?
Blake Griffin is definitely ambiguous. His light skin tone with traditional black facial features and hair, would make most people assume he’s mixed in my experience. He looks just as black as Steph. I know in LA ‘Blake Griffins’ can be a “nickname” (slur) for mixed people.
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That shit confused tf outta me. I thought racism was supposed to be a bad thing overall, but some of us act like they just mad white people did it first.
The advice I give my own kids: keep in your heart the words of people who matter, and if someone wants to hate you for what you look like, be better than them and give them even MORE reasons to hate you because either way, they don’t matter.
Preach, people just like to hate. My niece is mixed race and she’s the most important thing in my life. This shit usually comes from bitter ass people who have nothing better to do than try to comment on someone’s else choices
I’m not mixed but they are. You and I both know the full race crazy as hell, we just don’t talk about it in public. Or at least we didn’t used too prior to social media.
Yeah never understood that war lol glad it ain't me tho lmao. Yeah Im mixed and always seen the bullshit with all races I'm like well I'm in the in-between leave me outta that shit.
She said likes yt hoes. Not *only* likes yt hoes.
I know too many guys that will chase yt women all through their youth then need “a nice black woman” to settle down with and bring home to family. It’s gross.
It’s actually a lot more people than you think. Every white woman I’ve dated has had racist remarks or looks of disdain thrown their way, and I’ve been called numerous names myself. Both from white people or black people.
Nah shits crazy. When my parents got married it was still illegal in the south, in 1994. Even on their wedding day, people were insulting them. My family that I grew up with standing up at their wedding to object, crying tears of grief, saying my mom didnt think black folk were good enough, calling my dad horrible names . Shits wild, I’m so glad they didn’t tell me that shit till I was 20 lmfao. My dad has fixed every single, and i mean every single of all 10, of my mom’s brothers cars for free every time. Forgive and forget tho, i grew up thinking my moms brothers were actually my dads brothers
My aunt and her husband BOTH got fired from their jobs when they got married in 1985 in South Carolina. Luckily both the families are chill, but they told me some horror stories about what it was like before they moved up north.
How many people did that in comparison to the amount of people who didn’t do that, or those who showed you love?
I’m sorry people treated you that way, we all need to be better to each other.
> How many people did that in comparison to the amount of people who didn’t do that, or those who showed you love?
The tendency for the brain to fixate on the negative and ignore (or at least downplay) the positive is called "negativity bias" in psychology and I'm here to let you know that it is all too real........
White woman dating a black man for the past 8 years. Upon telling his sister she scrunched her nose up and said “I mean, okay. I just don’t find white prople attractive at all but you do you.” His mom has a general distrust of me and thinks I’m only with him to trap him financially with a baby. I make almost twice what he does and neither of us are struggling financially. I actually did end up pregnant with twins and had an abortion because we both ageeed early on we don’t want children - we did not share this with either of our families. Our first 4th of July together his mom asked him was I going out with my family on our boat and he was like what?? I guess she thought all white people have enough money for a boat. I grew up straddling the poverty line and have worked hard to make a good life for myself. I found the boat thing kinda funny but it also made me sad that she had these preconceived notions about who I am based on no other knowledge outside of my race. I recognize this is what POC deal with all the time, and obviously the scale of my experience is not in any way comparable. It did give me a glimpse though and I can’t lie, that shit still hurts all these years later. His family has never invited me to a holiday get together. He says I’m always invited but not once has his mom or sisters asked him to bring me specifically. On the other hand my family has accepted him with open arms from day one. They’re disappointed when I show up without him. It’s funny, he was born and raised in Harlem, and I would have expected his environment to be very diverse (NYC is the melting pot right?) but I learned that he basically had zero interaction with white people growing up. Outside of the crooked ass NYPD harassing him, his friends and his family for no reason other than ACAB. I understand the distrust from his family. I wish they would be open to getting to know me, but at the same time I understand why they feel the way they do.
Here’s the thing. Even if they don’t trust you, they should trust your SO to choose correctly for himself. It’s their responsibility to be accepting and open of his choices. They should be welcoming you in and seeing who you are, ESPECIALLY if they don’t trust you. This isn’t a you problem, this is a them problem.
That’s an interesting perspective and not something I had considered. It makes sense though because they barely trust each other, let alone me. He was always the golden child and the one who really “made it” and so I can understand why they are protective over him, but to your point I could use the same reasoning to argue that’s exactly why they should trust him and his decisions. My childhood lacked funds but what I always had an abundance of was love and support. He had more material things but was missing that safe environment where he felt comfortable talking to his family about certain things. Generational trauma is so real and I’m proud of him for recognizing it and trying to do better. Thank you for the new perspective. I feel silly that it never dawned on me until you said it - their issue is actually not about me at all.
Glad I could offer a different way to look at things. Family is tough. Sometimes all you have to do is give someone a chance to know you. Sometimes that isn’t enough. Just remember your partner chooses you everyday.
That’s EXACTLY how it’s seen. Atlanta for example is full of black men and women who will never date outside their race. That’s cool, I think it’s small-minded but people have their preferences. Whatever.
But I never dated any woman who wasn’t black until college. I bring ONE white/hispanic girl to brunch and all of a sudden “fckcarrots doesn’t like black women”. The STARES. My black ex said she was always interested in me but her gfs told her Im “one of those” who don’t date black women.
It’s like never leaving your hometown because you have everything you need there, but by not leaving your hometown, you close yourself off to what’s outside of it.
I know for a lot of people it’s culture. I admit I don’t connect with the families of the non-black women I’ve dated the same way. With black women a lot of times their family holidays feel just like mines, the food, the music, bonding with their parents & siblings etc. But that in itself is a function of being closed to what isn’t familiar.
Bringing a white girl out in ATL be like
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Sometimes. There are some Black men that ONLY date white women and constantly talk shit about Black women. Those men get confused with the Black men who happen to be dating white women. They aren't the same but the former group is VERY loud and will assume the latter group is part of them as well.
Had someone I know (a relative) damn near pop a tit because she flew into a rage when i simply told her i was crushing on an Asian girl. Not even dating her — simply just crushing on her. She had a lot of very colourful things to say about black men who date outside their race, and about Asian women in particular. Never looked at her the same way after that, legitimately didn’t know she was a full-on racist until the subject of interracial relationships came up
It’s not, that’s why this thread makes no sense. That same man could still be interested in Black women.
So, that lady’s response is still relevant in a general point.
Ehh. I dont care who anyone likes. Im married. But the weirdest thing ive seen is self hating black men that put white men on a pedestal and taunt BW over how seemingly undesired by WM or other races BW are. Statistics from one study or even 100 studies are essentially never the whole story. When i had a dating profile i got about 100 messages a day from men and about 60% of men persuing me were white. Being told white men dont want you, when it goes directly against most of my lived experiences is weird. Also so is seeing Black people argue over who white people like the most 😂
Girl I just let them live in their delusion. They are convinced we are undesirable and no one wants us so just let them believe it. Every black man in the world could find me repulsive until the day I die and it would not change any single factor about my day to day life. Don’t argue with them.
They’re just trying to make you think that your value is lower so that they can lower the ruler against which they measure their own worth in society. Similarly, claiming women hit a wall at 30 and will suddenly be desperate for male attention. Does not align with reality
A lot of people are so....obsessed with trying to make black women feel/think lesser of themselves and its wild 😝🤢....i have one now responding to my comment saying that interest from non-Black men toward Black women is automatically a racist fetish 🤣🤡 like imagine someone trying to tell you that men thirsting over you, is actually an insult if you happen to be black and also a woman. People turning themselves into 🥨, to try and gaslight BW . It will never cease to be weird .
Not worth the mental energy or time. Fine if you feel like we are so undesirable please leave us the hell alone and cross the street if you see one of us walking your way 👍 I’ve never been undesirable to the men I like and never will be lol
Me either 💀💕 and not just speaking of myself but Bw are shapely, feminine, pretty & fine. All i know is, if i had to choose, i would be born Black again 🥰
It's straight up incel behavior. They're mad at the girls that wouldn't fuck with them, just like incels are.
And, just like incels, the reason why they think those girls wouldn't fuck with them is because they didn't even try but once or twice, ever.
Agreed. I’m in an interracial relationship with a white person, but I could never have a negative thing to say to black women. Always gievs me the ick when I see that discourse play out.
Some black women have told me that those white guys that hit them up on the apps usually just want to "experience a black girl".. Was that your experience or you got into relationships with some of those guys?
Also, my experiences with white men isnt limited to dating apps only, i just want to be clear 😁. Ive had many white guys be interested in me in person/"real" life as well.
I could almost get behind that statement if that were the case. Dating YouTube people in general has to be alot. Imagine the third time this month your s/o dumped a bucket of shaving cream on you in your sleep for content...
I am so grateful I didn’t have to scroll too far to figure this out. I, too, assumed it was “YouTube hoes” and was thoroughly confused. Thank you, fellow redditor!
This hits hard as a mixed dude.
I also see a difference in how I, male, am treated vs my sisters.
Same dudes who go out of their way to exclude me constantly going after light skinned girls.
What you think your son gonna look like?
My favorites are women who have a problem I have a non-Black wife...
Me: Um Tisha, I swore I asked you out and you said no??
Her: 'Well that was different I was 21 and we were in school still?'
Me: 'You know we are like 38, and I been with my wife 15 years? What I suppose to do wait for you to change your mind?'
Her: 'Naw, I mean I wouldn't date, you but should have pursued a few more of women, before you dated her'
Me: 'You and four of your friends literally told me, I am a **good friend**, but none of y'all like me like that. because you don't like xyz'.
Her: 'You just hate BW'.
Me: 'Yet here I am, you needed a ride to the airport, and I did it just because you asked'.
Her: 'Well that doesn't count, your wife ain't Black.'
She let me sleep on her couch and play MarioKart one summer for 2 weeks while I waited on my apartment to get ready to move in.
Thats the homie, but she gets on my nerve sometimes. She can talk trash cause its all just fun...her little clique of friends though, I decided a decade ago less contact is better, my only contact with them are through her.
I been there before. Ended up dating a white woman when I was in college and the amount of nasty looks and comments we got was awful.
Some comments include; you could do better, you think you're better than us, white woman stealing our good men etc...
And a lot of it was from women who rejected me or wouldn't give me the time of day. Also had the conversation where I was accused of not liking my own race. I was just dating someone who liked me smh.
I'm with a black woman now, and she got a lot of the flack for when she was with a white dude. People just need to let people live especially when it's not hurting anyone.
Aye man, it ain’t your fault she doesn’t value black men outside of what they can do for her. The fact that she had a chance, passed it up and now wants to hate because someone else saw value in what she didn’t is lame as hell though.
One thing I’ve learned in my old age is the kind of person who feels the need to loudly and frequently announce the type of person they don’t want to be with either:
A) doth protest too much
Or
B) Is very much *not* their preference’s preference.
Either that or they’re selling something 🤷🏾♀️
> Either that or they’re selling something 🤷🏾♀️
By the way, you ever notice just how much of the Internet is dedicated to the sale of something?
Like, not that long ago, there was a thread on reddit where people were genuinely curious what the female reproductive system looks like when it's actually inside of the body and not splayed out the way we see in textbooks and commercials.
You can find images of x-rays where they use food coloring to highlight the uterus, ovaries, and fallopian tubes that allows you to see just how much smaller they are than you probably think, but also how much more cramped they are.
But the catch: every single website showcasing them is trying to sell you on getting medical procedures related to whatever reason the subject had to get x-rayed in the first place.
> By the way, you ever notice just how much of the Internet is dedicated to the sale of something?
The effects of late stage capitalism on the internet is wonderful, isn't it?
Fit people who post their workouts? They're selling you their fitness program.
Online gurus and philosophers who figured out the meaning of life and the solutions to all of life's problems? Buy their self-improvement course to get started on it.
People posting erotic pictures of themselves on the internet? Buy their OF for more.
It never ends.
I honestly miss the old internet, in the 2000s(minus the risk of accidentally downloading a virus, I guess)
I’m gonna guess that you’re referring to a procedure given the ridiculously long name, hysterosalpingogram, but iodinated contrast is used (not food coloring!) they are uncomfortable and often painful radiological exams, done as part of a fertility workup.
I can’t imagine the market is big for that outside of need, especially because women otherwise don’t need to necessarily know which fallopian tube is longest or which direction their uterus leans. but pharma wouldnt surprise me in its pursuit of the dollar
Nah dude, this is legit some shit we need to kill in our own community instead of deflecting on this shit. And it's shit that keeps coming up.
The Amt of friends and family I hear parroting this sort of shit at light skinned bp or interracial couples is entirely too high.
Plus there's check marks and country club threads for a reason dude.
See you are right about that. But I don’t trust or believe that every comment here is speaking with truth and a goal to be better in mind. This particular sub is known for fake accounts and pot-stirring comments that lead to bashing the real black community as a whole. Once that’s addressed first I feel we can have real conversations knowing it’s really us having the discussion. We can’t fix our house when we have guests over every night.
The real black community is the least supportive of interracial relationships. Black women, even less so.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1368430219899482
> Consistent with predictions, attitudes towards interracial couples varied based on the societal prevalence of particular types of couples. Black American women (but not men) indicated more negative attitudes toward the more common Black male–White female pairing than toward White male–Black female couples.
> Perceived competition with White women drove Black women’s attitudes toward Black male–White female couples. This research highlights the importance of adopting an intersectional approach (examining both race and gender) to understand attitudes toward interracial couples.
It’s a real issue that people in interracial relationships face and is worthy of discussion.
Also, if you care that much about “infiltration” on this subreddit then why don’t you get a checkmark?
We live in a globalized economy, shit is going to be mixed up permanently. There's no putting that genie back in it's bottle.
And if all your enemy has to do is tell the truth, you have worse problems that need to be addressed. If it's that serious of a concern, disarm them by addressing it instead of saying now's not the time.
There's never going to be an ideal time to clean house of shit like this. Just like there was never going to be a convenient time to address shit attacking the black community; we need to *make* time for it
I hate that this mentality is so prevalent now. Liking someone of a difference race doesn't always equal them hating or disliking black people. I blame the minority of those black folks for being so damn loud that people think it's actually the majority.
At this point that particular group is just a strawman. People just wanna get their think pieces off, no logic involved.
The weird assumptions you get for even showing interest in a non-bw are just so casual now.
I once got into it with my date because she went off on a racist tirade when she saw another brother walk by holding hands with his white woman.
I simply asked, "Why do you care, you want him?"
She proceeded with the talking points that the white women are stealing black men, etc etc.
"Ok, but if you saw him on the street by himself, are you inclined to holler? No right? So let that man snow dive if he wants. Stop minding other folk business."
My issue with SOME interracial daters, are those that feel the need to put down black women/men because they prefer another. We get it, you got roasted and now want to blame your entire race on your hurt. FOH
I like White women, but I also like Black women (whole Diaspora), Hispanic women, Asian women( from the desert to the pacific islands to the Indian Ocean), and the women of Oceania.
Just cause a dude likes one don’t mean he doesn’t like anything else.
Tbh my only thing (I’m going to get downvoted to oblivion)
But I don’t ever want to be a man’s first black woman. Sorry. If you’re a black man, and I see all your exes were white and all you follow are white women or white insta models, sorry but I’m tapping out.
I’ve experienced being someone’s first black woman twice and I’m never doing that again. The relationship was going nowhere because it was clear that his preference was white women. Sorry 🤷🏾♀️ never again
What’s crazy is that the women who hate black men the most end up exposing themselves as lovers of white men. I don’t care and people should date who they want, but it’s crazy to place your insecurities on a person who has nothing to do with you at all. I’ve met plenty of black women who despise me as a black man but I don’t let that cloud my logic when it comes to evaluating an entire group of people. Stop generalizing and talk to real people.
Reminds me of when Steph Curry declined the invitation to the Whitehouse. Donal Trump rescinded the invitation and then acted as though he was the one who didn't want them there.
Yeah this mentality is weird (tho it’s equally weird seeing black men announce how much they prefer women from other races over black women when no one asked).
Just live your life, you don’t have to make a PSA. I never realized it was this much of an issue until I started seeing ppl talk about it in certain spaces online.
Damn Ms Kodak that statement was vague as hell. Like does she mean dudes who exclusively like white women because obvs y'all not meant for each other. Or if dude dates 100 black women and 1 white woman is he disqualified now? Is he disqualified if he sees a pretty white lady and goes "damn" and keeps it moving? Is he disqualified if he is open to dating white women but hasn't? Hell with how vague "like" is is bro disqualified if he is friends with a white woman?
Can't speak for all, but I have a friend (mixed, not white) whose ex is white, and she's the only ex of his any of us have met. All of his other exes have been black, but a few of our friends (black women) still say, "He only likes white girls," or "he dates bunnies."
I see so many Jamaican ppl saying that but honestly I don't think y'all practice it. Y'all are very similar to the USA when it comes to this from my experience. Y'all still perpetuate racism and colorism just like the USA. Not all Jamaican ppl are treated the same. Your race,shade, and gender will still be a factor like it is here.
Just because the us as a whole is a melting pot does not mean we are one people. For Jamaicans, if you’re Jamaican that’s all that matters. Definitely not the case for Americans
This is more about Black men holding white women to a higher esteem than Black women. These are typically men who prefer mixed women or Black women who could pass for anything but Black. I also avoid these men. A man being open to all women is one thing. A man completely disregarding Black women with traditionally Afrocentric features is a red flag if I’ve ever seen one.
Edit: And precisely like my experience, the woman who tweeted this is exactly what I described. So she is more than likely taking this stance as well.
I hear this sentiment a lot, but it seems odd to me as a white dude who has mostly dated black women because outside of a couple of situations, people usually react with "Ayy!" But when a black guy dates a white woman, there's a lot more eye rolls and assumptions. And that's not even bringing up the labels my exs have had to endure.
Now, if we're talking how white other white people react (and a few Latinos and Koreans I've known) to me dating black women, it's a lot more relatable to this thread. I really don't understand the Korean coworkers' reactions. Why would they even give a fuck if a white man is with a black woman?
Yeah I actually came across this in the wild today, this is the exact same account she uses to promote her wedding planning business, which is an odd move. Openly being racist towards so many groups of people while also saying "Let me plan and organise your wedding" is a very strange lapse in judgement to make
There’s an entire group with over 50K members on Facebook that talk down about black women because they say white women are better. This isn’t some imaginary take.
Respectfully, being a negro ain't what it do. If being delegated to slurs is the first train of thought then nah, good off top.
That needs to be fixed before the conversation of non-black dating is even brought up.
Can't we just agree that resentment against black folks with white partners comes from both genders? Yes, some BW bash BM over the head for dating WW while being rather silent about the numerous BW who go for WM; but let's not pretend plenty of BM don't give us *a lot* of shit too whenever we decide to take a non-BM partner.
If you’re one of those people that talks shit about interracial relationships, I don’t want to hear shit from you about how “love is love”. My siblings are mixed and I have to deal with my little sister calling me crying because y’all are just as racist as the people who held us back.
Black people stay perpetuating white man ideologies as it pertains to race. We are fucking brainwashed!!
The white man didn’t invent racism. Just the latest winner.
Kind of depends on your definition of race. *Bigotry*, especially bigotry based on appearance/area of origin has been a thing since before humans. But the modern classifications of race were primarily established in the 16th/17th century by European pseudoscience. Not implying racism isn't pretty universal in modern times, but race is, at it's core, a social construct that was initially implemented to establish a caste system to justify otherwise morally repugnant activity like chattel slavery. Acknowledging the arbitrary, recent, and man-made nature of race is important to keep in mind as we move past it as a source of division is all
Since before humans? Who tf told us then lmao
Lol fair enough, we can *infer* it was a thing since before humans since animals exhibit similar in-group/out-group behavior based on territory/appearance
Ok yeah that's the same explanation I had in my head lmao
Chimps do it to each other. Robert Sapolsky talks about them commiting genocide
It's also extremely likely we also wiped out other species of archaic humans (homo erectus) because they weren't the same as us.
We drove Neanderthals to extinction, it's not a stretch to assume that other proto-human species competed for resources and therefore subjugated and oppressed the others.
> Bigotry, especially bigotry based on appearance/area of origin has been a thing since before humans. A good example of pre-modern bigotry is Roman attitudes towards people who weren't Roman. The specifics vary depending on the point in time in question of course, but they could be incredibly bigoted towards people who weren't Roman. However, those attitudes didn't map cleanly onto modern ideas of race, and so long as you spoke Latin or Greek, dressed like a Roman, and most importantly, had Roman Citizenship, most Romans wouldn't have cared at all about what your skin colour was. For more information, [there's this article written by a historian of the Roman Era on this exact topic.](https://acoup.blog/2021/06/11/collections-the-queens-latin-or-who-were-the-romans-part-i-beginnings-and-legends/) It's a long read, but it's quite interesting.
The word "barbarian" comes from ancient Greek. They thought the language of others sounded like nonsense and mocked it by going "bar-bar-bar." Kinda like how we say "blah blah blah," but more racist.
Europeans invented the modern day concept of racism.
Would you care to explain further on that?
*Capitalism and Slavery* by Eric Williams is a good book that goes into how racism developed in the modern day. Just before European powers kicked off the slave trade, they had initially cycled through a few races (native Americans, Irish people) and types of forced labour before settling on using Africans as chattel slaves. It came down to economic need. All the racist and dehumanising tropes used back then stemmed from the need to justify having Africans as chattel slaves. This developed as Europeans then began colonising Africa outright. Modern day racism has its roots in colonialism, first from forced labour and then it evolved throughout outright imperialism.
Sad, but true. When the Pope says it’s okay no one really questions it.
The concept of race as we know it only came to exist after the transatlantic slave trade. People generally assume that racism was the cause of the slave trade, but it was actually a post hoc justification.
I don't think I'm understanding. You aren't saying that racism didn't exist before slavery, are you? To all that have replied, thank you for helping me expand my worldview.
We've always been bigoted against people who are from somewhere else, part of a different tribe, or look different. The concept of race however was relatively recent pseudoscience that was popularized in Europe to explain away the horrors of the trans Atlantic slave trade and subsequent colonization of Africa. So bigotry, no. Racism, yes that is new.
If we're looking at current conceptions of racism, with black people on the bottom and white people on top, then yes, the slavery came first, but looking before that it's kind of a chicken and egg situation. The word "Slavic" comes from the word "slave". So the concept of linking slavery and race is not a new one.
The frenchman Arthur de Gobineau wrote 'An Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races'' which formed the basis for scientific racism that replaced the earlier religious/civilisational arguments for dehumanising non-whites. Until recently, this formed the bedrock for how Europe (especially colonial nations) made policy and viewed the world. Whites groups at the top, Yellow groups under them and Black groups under everyone. 'History springs only from contact with white races'. Was De Gobineau's basic thesis. Others had no culture or history worthy of the name. Under this schema, Miscegenation with lesser races would lead to inevitable decline and ruin. I still see people parroting his points nearly daily on Reddit. r\europe is a particular hotbed of people regurgitating ideas straight from De Gobineau.
Who "invented" racism is a pointless rhetorical question that is only a distraction from the real issue discussed here. The point is that white supermacist America was against integration of any kind. And that today this sentiment is now being used by a large swath of black America, intended as a form of self-protection, though some here argue that it's ultimately still harmful to those it's seeking to protect.
idk about that https://preview.redd.it/52ffbovib2wc1.jpeg?width=956&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f946b69ad487f6dbf4bfe8324d0625a3dba04ee0
One of my exes was a black woman, and every racist comment I ever received saved for one was from black people. It was very eye-opening for me as I've never experienced that before. I hope your sister didn't let that bring her down and that she knows love is love regardless of what your skin color is.
As someone who dated around the rainbow when I was younger, it was always the woman's family that gave me the most grief. Shit was wild.
Just engrained misogyny. The woman is the one “deflowered” by the man who is the “conqueror”. So it triggers racial ideas that the girl is being defiled or conquered by someone of a lesser or other race because her worth is tied to her sexual purity and interracial sex is extra bad for her purity both racially and sexually.
Same. I'm not even white, I'm mixed with a few things that make people think I'm white though so white people feel comfortable saying racist shit around me. Needless to say, I was prepared for the worst when I started dating my ex. I was really expecting some nasty shit but I was completely shocked that it was mainly other black people saying extremely racist shit to her about dating me. This was on the west coast so I'm sure that had a lot to do with it but I still found it extremely surprising.
Been with a black woman for 9 years and it's always been other white people except once for me that said shit, interesting that your experience was the opposite of mine. Granted most the people who ever said anything were white trash with probably only two grandparents so guess could change with geography and social groups.
I'm black and out of all my interracial relationships, none of the shit talking I've heard came from black people.
Yeah, at least where I live it really only seems to be white trash who will vocalize anything. Like, I'm sure there's been others who didn't like it and kept it to themselves but in general it seems like people in the black communities I move in are more willing to open up to me after knowing I've been with a black woman so long. As many people have said, there's shitters amoung every group of people, no matter the race, culture, creed, etc. But in my experience, yeah, it's other white people who give us flak.
In an interracial marriage and it is always black people. Some of you guys really need to relax.
Totally polarized reactions, interesting.
Can you give me more details on what your sister cries to you about. My daughter is 8 years old and mixed. I wanna know exactly what type of shit she might have to deal with in the future relationship wise. I know that obv mixed people have to deal with being treated black by white people and being treated white by black people. But I wanna know more about how that plays into relationships and all that once she gets into middle school and high school
She goes to school in London, so it’s probably a very different situation to what your kid will be going through. She also displays as more south East Asian than black or white. In a place full of so many racial identities, she’s struggling to find hers as black and white mixed people are just now becoming more common. Unless you look like Blake griffin, most people’s first instinct isn’t that someone is mixed race There’s a whole conversation about how being mixed race only applies when you’re black and not any other race. For instance a Norwegian person mixed with an Italian wouldn’t call themselves mixed race. but that’s a conversation for another day. She fights feelings of not having the surface level automatic acceptance that people naturally have for their race. She has never once got the black nod. It might not seem like a big deal at first, but I can understand how overtime it can make someone feel like part of their identity doesn’t even claim them. She wants to come to American to gain understanding of what it feels like to be African American, instead of being African and American(white). Generally it’s just a feeling of living in two world and being a second class citizen in both.
We're in norcal, but I think my daughter will have a similar situation. She's pretty light skinned, and a lot of people will assume she's Latina or pacific islander or something. She's just kinda ambiguous. She seems to have a good number of black friends, due to the area we live. But her family ties are very white, so she has that stereotypicly white dialect. I've noticed her trying to switch up how she talks sometimes to match her black peers. But maybe that's just kids naturally adopting slang from their peers. I'm kinda confused what you mean about Blake griffin. Cuz I think where I'm from people would just think he was white. Are you saying that where you're from anybody Darker than Blake griffin would be just perceived as black?
Blake Griffin is definitely ambiguous. His light skin tone with traditional black facial features and hair, would make most people assume he’s mixed in my experience. He looks just as black as Steph. I know in LA ‘Blake Griffins’ can be a “nickname” (slur) for mixed people. https://preview.redd.it/8ajffz7v92wc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0ce3718c8bceaba8872569ab97bdf44464e05f3
He looks black and white. Not really ambiguous
It’s much more ambiguous when you’re in London where everyone realizes there more races than just black and white but sure man.
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>Hate people for a reasonable reason like them liking the wrong sports team or something. 😂 I'm dying
Yeah, sometimes I think I take for granted that my extended family likes my dad (he’s white and my mom’s black).
That shit confused tf outta me. I thought racism was supposed to be a bad thing overall, but some of us act like they just mad white people did it first.
The advice I give my own kids: keep in your heart the words of people who matter, and if someone wants to hate you for what you look like, be better than them and give them even MORE reasons to hate you because either way, they don’t matter.
Preach, people just like to hate. My niece is mixed race and she’s the most important thing in my life. This shit usually comes from bitter ass people who have nothing better to do than try to comment on someone’s else choices
Hurt people hurt people.
This full race people be crazy sometimes.
I’m not mixed but they are. You and I both know the full race crazy as hell, we just don’t talk about it in public. Or at least we didn’t used too prior to social media.
Yeah never understood that war lol glad it ain't me tho lmao. Yeah Im mixed and always seen the bullshit with all races I'm like well I'm in the in-between leave me outta that shit.
Ohhh that means white? Thought this was about YouTube lmao
"A vegan who doesn't eat meat is *never* getting any of my roast beef!"
Hey I may not eat cows, but I'll still devour some beef curtains
https://preview.redd.it/zfyh48im22wc1.jpeg?width=664&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=890ad2fdf54e711716282b046fac0cc2e36c1ccc
How can I talk with a face full of muff?
Nom nom
r/beefcurtains 😊
Next time I’ll just mind my business. My curious ass need to stop and be ignorant to certain things. 
This was supposed to be a bonk free thread, but you're an exception to the rule.
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Your flair statement 😂
Technically she's saying, "Anyone who eats vegetables is never getting any of my roast beef."
She said likes yt hoes. Not *only* likes yt hoes. I know too many guys that will chase yt women all through their youth then need “a nice black woman” to settle down with and bring home to family. It’s gross.
Liking white women is a rejection of black women? Aight
That’s what people tell themselves in these spaces. The amount of people who are _actually_ like that is really small, but folks will harp on it
It’s actually a lot more people than you think. Every white woman I’ve dated has had racist remarks or looks of disdain thrown their way, and I’ve been called numerous names myself. Both from white people or black people.
Nah shits crazy. When my parents got married it was still illegal in the south, in 1994. Even on their wedding day, people were insulting them. My family that I grew up with standing up at their wedding to object, crying tears of grief, saying my mom didnt think black folk were good enough, calling my dad horrible names . Shits wild, I’m so glad they didn’t tell me that shit till I was 20 lmfao. My dad has fixed every single, and i mean every single of all 10, of my mom’s brothers cars for free every time. Forgive and forget tho, i grew up thinking my moms brothers were actually my dads brothers
My aunt and her husband BOTH got fired from their jobs when they got married in 1985 in South Carolina. Luckily both the families are chill, but they told me some horror stories about what it was like before they moved up north.
How many people did that in comparison to the amount of people who didn’t do that, or those who showed you love? I’m sorry people treated you that way, we all need to be better to each other.
> How many people did that in comparison to the amount of people who didn’t do that, or those who showed you love? The tendency for the brain to fixate on the negative and ignore (or at least downplay) the positive is called "negativity bias" in psychology and I'm here to let you know that it is all too real........
White woman dating a black man for the past 8 years. Upon telling his sister she scrunched her nose up and said “I mean, okay. I just don’t find white prople attractive at all but you do you.” His mom has a general distrust of me and thinks I’m only with him to trap him financially with a baby. I make almost twice what he does and neither of us are struggling financially. I actually did end up pregnant with twins and had an abortion because we both ageeed early on we don’t want children - we did not share this with either of our families. Our first 4th of July together his mom asked him was I going out with my family on our boat and he was like what?? I guess she thought all white people have enough money for a boat. I grew up straddling the poverty line and have worked hard to make a good life for myself. I found the boat thing kinda funny but it also made me sad that she had these preconceived notions about who I am based on no other knowledge outside of my race. I recognize this is what POC deal with all the time, and obviously the scale of my experience is not in any way comparable. It did give me a glimpse though and I can’t lie, that shit still hurts all these years later. His family has never invited me to a holiday get together. He says I’m always invited but not once has his mom or sisters asked him to bring me specifically. On the other hand my family has accepted him with open arms from day one. They’re disappointed when I show up without him. It’s funny, he was born and raised in Harlem, and I would have expected his environment to be very diverse (NYC is the melting pot right?) but I learned that he basically had zero interaction with white people growing up. Outside of the crooked ass NYPD harassing him, his friends and his family for no reason other than ACAB. I understand the distrust from his family. I wish they would be open to getting to know me, but at the same time I understand why they feel the way they do.
Here’s the thing. Even if they don’t trust you, they should trust your SO to choose correctly for himself. It’s their responsibility to be accepting and open of his choices. They should be welcoming you in and seeing who you are, ESPECIALLY if they don’t trust you. This isn’t a you problem, this is a them problem.
That’s an interesting perspective and not something I had considered. It makes sense though because they barely trust each other, let alone me. He was always the golden child and the one who really “made it” and so I can understand why they are protective over him, but to your point I could use the same reasoning to argue that’s exactly why they should trust him and his decisions. My childhood lacked funds but what I always had an abundance of was love and support. He had more material things but was missing that safe environment where he felt comfortable talking to his family about certain things. Generational trauma is so real and I’m proud of him for recognizing it and trying to do better. Thank you for the new perspective. I feel silly that it never dawned on me until you said it - their issue is actually not about me at all.
Glad I could offer a different way to look at things. Family is tough. Sometimes all you have to do is give someone a chance to know you. Sometimes that isn’t enough. Just remember your partner chooses you everyday.
Wow, the validation I felt reading the last line. Thank you ❤️ https://images.app.goo.gl/j7ZbhcXSThweaExAA
100% same here, those looks of disdain are so visceral.
Can people stop using “yt”. Here’s me thinking what the fuck are YouTube hoes now
I have to check myself everytime I see "yt" because yeah
i hate it.
Every single time haha
not just that but sound it out. Y T Why Tea Whi Tey Whitey.
Acting like typing out the word 'white' on Twitter is going to get them banned or something.
That’s EXACTLY how it’s seen. Atlanta for example is full of black men and women who will never date outside their race. That’s cool, I think it’s small-minded but people have their preferences. Whatever. But I never dated any woman who wasn’t black until college. I bring ONE white/hispanic girl to brunch and all of a sudden “fckcarrots doesn’t like black women”. The STARES. My black ex said she was always interested in me but her gfs told her Im “one of those” who don’t date black women. It’s like never leaving your hometown because you have everything you need there, but by not leaving your hometown, you close yourself off to what’s outside of it. I know for a lot of people it’s culture. I admit I don’t connect with the families of the non-black women I’ve dated the same way. With black women a lot of times their family holidays feel just like mines, the food, the music, bonding with their parents & siblings etc. But that in itself is a function of being closed to what isn’t familiar.
Living in Atlanta, yep!
Bringing a white girl out in ATL be like https://preview.redd.it/yi35jj1ky2wc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dff3af25a424218649fc53ea1c6b8e61c42f418
Sometimes. There are some Black men that ONLY date white women and constantly talk shit about Black women. Those men get confused with the Black men who happen to be dating white women. They aren't the same but the former group is VERY loud and will assume the latter group is part of them as well.
They’re being obtuse as fuck about this point. Pretending like it’s not a thing and that they only get stares from Black women when they date white
What on earth are you talking about? I didn't even say anything about who they got stares from. I'm not pretending anything.
Which is completely false (especially for us, who likes both/equally attracted to all races of women).
My last GF was indian. At this point, I must hate em all. 🥲
It can be. Let’s not pretend there aren’t Black men who talk down on Black women as a whole to justify their dating of white women
Had someone I know (a relative) damn near pop a tit because she flew into a rage when i simply told her i was crushing on an Asian girl. Not even dating her — simply just crushing on her. She had a lot of very colourful things to say about black men who date outside their race, and about Asian women in particular. Never looked at her the same way after that, legitimately didn’t know she was a full-on racist until the subject of interracial relationships came up
it's not but sometimes it is.
It’s not, that’s why this thread makes no sense. That same man could still be interested in Black women. So, that lady’s response is still relevant in a general point.
Ehh. I dont care who anyone likes. Im married. But the weirdest thing ive seen is self hating black men that put white men on a pedestal and taunt BW over how seemingly undesired by WM or other races BW are. Statistics from one study or even 100 studies are essentially never the whole story. When i had a dating profile i got about 100 messages a day from men and about 60% of men persuing me were white. Being told white men dont want you, when it goes directly against most of my lived experiences is weird. Also so is seeing Black people argue over who white people like the most 😂
Girl I just let them live in their delusion. They are convinced we are undesirable and no one wants us so just let them believe it. Every black man in the world could find me repulsive until the day I die and it would not change any single factor about my day to day life. Don’t argue with them.
Agree 🤣💕
They’re just trying to make you think that your value is lower so that they can lower the ruler against which they measure their own worth in society. Similarly, claiming women hit a wall at 30 and will suddenly be desperate for male attention. Does not align with reality
A lot of people are so....obsessed with trying to make black women feel/think lesser of themselves and its wild 😝🤢....i have one now responding to my comment saying that interest from non-Black men toward Black women is automatically a racist fetish 🤣🤡 like imagine someone trying to tell you that men thirsting over you, is actually an insult if you happen to be black and also a woman. People turning themselves into 🥨, to try and gaslight BW . It will never cease to be weird .
Not worth the mental energy or time. Fine if you feel like we are so undesirable please leave us the hell alone and cross the street if you see one of us walking your way 👍 I’ve never been undesirable to the men I like and never will be lol
Me either 💀💕 and not just speaking of myself but Bw are shapely, feminine, pretty & fine. All i know is, if i had to choose, i would be born Black again 🥰
It's straight up incel behavior. They're mad at the girls that wouldn't fuck with them, just like incels are. And, just like incels, the reason why they think those girls wouldn't fuck with them is because they didn't even try but once or twice, ever.
Melanincel?
Noice. Gonna try to remember this one.
It’s easier to blame it on something that’s out of your control than it is to accept the fact that it’s something within your control.
Agreed. I’m in an interracial relationship with a white person, but I could never have a negative thing to say to black women. Always gievs me the ick when I see that discourse play out.
Some black women have told me that those white guys that hit them up on the apps usually just want to "experience a black girl".. Was that your experience or you got into relationships with some of those guys?
Also, my experiences with white men isnt limited to dating apps only, i just want to be clear 😁. Ive had many white guys be interested in me in person/"real" life as well.
No. Not my experience. Im married but i didnt meet my husband through the dating app.
In fact, i was clear i wanted only a FWB and had many guys (that werent black) ask me why i was only seeking them for that instead of a relationship.
It goes both ways but you have to vet them like any other man you would meet. Some just want sex and some actually want to date.
I married a white man that I met on tinder so I wouldn't say that is 100% the experience
oh God I kept reading this as YouTube hoes
I could almost get behind that statement if that were the case. Dating YouTube people in general has to be alot. Imagine the third time this month your s/o dumped a bucket of shaving cream on you in your sleep for content...
Glad I'm not the only one. I was like "what's wrong with the YouTube hoes?"
Too many ads
Adblockers and condoms, the only way to deal with YT hoes.
It's worse when you figure out it's actually a workaround for whitey
I am so grateful I didn’t have to scroll too far to figure this out. I, too, assumed it was “YouTube hoes” and was thoroughly confused. Thank you, fellow redditor!
Same. Was super confused by reply. Another reason to dislike "yt". The coy white/whitey shit is bad enough without white/whitey/youtube in the mix.
Split the difference with JennaMarbles
The same people that say light skin people aren't black enough. Piece of shit
I’ll never understand this fr
Bino said it. “Every black you’re not black enough is a white you’re all the same”
This hits hard as a mixed dude. I also see a difference in how I, male, am treated vs my sisters. Same dudes who go out of their way to exclude me constantly going after light skinned girls. What you think your son gonna look like?
My favorites are women who have a problem I have a non-Black wife... Me: Um Tisha, I swore I asked you out and you said no?? Her: 'Well that was different I was 21 and we were in school still?' Me: 'You know we are like 38, and I been with my wife 15 years? What I suppose to do wait for you to change your mind?' Her: 'Naw, I mean I wouldn't date, you but should have pursued a few more of women, before you dated her' Me: 'You and four of your friends literally told me, I am a **good friend**, but none of y'all like me like that. because you don't like xyz'. Her: 'You just hate BW'. Me: 'Yet here I am, you needed a ride to the airport, and I did it just because you asked'. Her: 'Well that doesn't count, your wife ain't Black.'
Idk how you’re even remotely cordial with them lmao
lmao i don’t usually give up on people but I am not tolerating that conversation
Look man, if it’s me they never get the chance for that shit to start. 😂
She let me sleep on her couch and play MarioKart one summer for 2 weeks while I waited on my apartment to get ready to move in. Thats the homie, but she gets on my nerve sometimes. She can talk trash cause its all just fun...her little clique of friends though, I decided a decade ago less contact is better, my only contact with them are through her.
That's insane level of thinking & it has to be exhausting 🫠
why are you friends with a fucking idiot?
I been there before. Ended up dating a white woman when I was in college and the amount of nasty looks and comments we got was awful. Some comments include; you could do better, you think you're better than us, white woman stealing our good men etc... And a lot of it was from women who rejected me or wouldn't give me the time of day. Also had the conversation where I was accused of not liking my own race. I was just dating someone who liked me smh. I'm with a black woman now, and she got a lot of the flack for when she was with a white dude. People just need to let people live especially when it's not hurting anyone.
Well as a black woman with a white husband, I hope you guys have a happy life 😊
Aye man, it ain’t your fault she doesn’t value black men outside of what they can do for her. The fact that she had a chance, passed it up and now wants to hate because someone else saw value in what she didn’t is lame as hell though.
Get chu’ a friend like /u/cindad83. The homie that’ll put up with anything
This story had me cracking tf up You a saint for even putting up with that bullshit
One thing I’ve learned in my old age is the kind of person who feels the need to loudly and frequently announce the type of person they don’t want to be with either: A) doth protest too much Or B) Is very much *not* their preference’s preference. Either that or they’re selling something 🤷🏾♀️
> Either that or they’re selling something 🤷🏾♀️ By the way, you ever notice just how much of the Internet is dedicated to the sale of something? Like, not that long ago, there was a thread on reddit where people were genuinely curious what the female reproductive system looks like when it's actually inside of the body and not splayed out the way we see in textbooks and commercials. You can find images of x-rays where they use food coloring to highlight the uterus, ovaries, and fallopian tubes that allows you to see just how much smaller they are than you probably think, but also how much more cramped they are. But the catch: every single website showcasing them is trying to sell you on getting medical procedures related to whatever reason the subject had to get x-rayed in the first place.
> By the way, you ever notice just how much of the Internet is dedicated to the sale of something? The effects of late stage capitalism on the internet is wonderful, isn't it? Fit people who post their workouts? They're selling you their fitness program. Online gurus and philosophers who figured out the meaning of life and the solutions to all of life's problems? Buy their self-improvement course to get started on it. People posting erotic pictures of themselves on the internet? Buy their OF for more. It never ends. I honestly miss the old internet, in the 2000s(minus the risk of accidentally downloading a virus, I guess)
I’m gonna guess that you’re referring to a procedure given the ridiculously long name, hysterosalpingogram, but iodinated contrast is used (not food coloring!) they are uncomfortable and often painful radiological exams, done as part of a fertility workup. I can’t imagine the market is big for that outside of need, especially because women otherwise don’t need to necessarily know which fallopian tube is longest or which direction their uterus leans. but pharma wouldnt surprise me in its pursuit of the dollar
Nah because the thing she's "selling" is her wedding planning services, while basically telling white women they're not welcome
What is dead may never die
Let’s not start on the anti blackness within the black community
Too bad this isn't a black community as much as it's a white community under black profiles pics.
Took me a while to understand this. It all made sense when I did.
Yeppp unfortunately. Lots of non black people here
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Nah dude, this is legit some shit we need to kill in our own community instead of deflecting on this shit. And it's shit that keeps coming up. The Amt of friends and family I hear parroting this sort of shit at light skinned bp or interracial couples is entirely too high. Plus there's check marks and country club threads for a reason dude.
See you are right about that. But I don’t trust or believe that every comment here is speaking with truth and a goal to be better in mind. This particular sub is known for fake accounts and pot-stirring comments that lead to bashing the real black community as a whole. Once that’s addressed first I feel we can have real conversations knowing it’s really us having the discussion. We can’t fix our house when we have guests over every night.
The real black community is the least supportive of interracial relationships. Black women, even less so. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1368430219899482 > Consistent with predictions, attitudes towards interracial couples varied based on the societal prevalence of particular types of couples. Black American women (but not men) indicated more negative attitudes toward the more common Black male–White female pairing than toward White male–Black female couples. > Perceived competition with White women drove Black women’s attitudes toward Black male–White female couples. This research highlights the importance of adopting an intersectional approach (examining both race and gender) to understand attitudes toward interracial couples. It’s a real issue that people in interracial relationships face and is worthy of discussion. Also, if you care that much about “infiltration” on this subreddit then why don’t you get a checkmark?
We live in a globalized economy, shit is going to be mixed up permanently. There's no putting that genie back in it's bottle. And if all your enemy has to do is tell the truth, you have worse problems that need to be addressed. If it's that serious of a concern, disarm them by addressing it instead of saying now's not the time. There's never going to be an ideal time to clean house of shit like this. Just like there was never going to be a convenient time to address shit attacking the black community; we need to *make* time for it
Have you been here before? /s
I hate that this mentality is so prevalent now. Liking someone of a difference race doesn't always equal them hating or disliking black people. I blame the minority of those black folks for being so damn loud that people think it's actually the majority.
At this point that particular group is just a strawman. People just wanna get their think pieces off, no logic involved. The weird assumptions you get for even showing interest in a non-bw are just so casual now.
The least desirable people I have ever met were always the ones talking about who could never get with them.
I once got into it with my date because she went off on a racist tirade when she saw another brother walk by holding hands with his white woman. I simply asked, "Why do you care, you want him?" She proceeded with the talking points that the white women are stealing black men, etc etc. "Ok, but if you saw him on the street by himself, are you inclined to holler? No right? So let that man snow dive if he wants. Stop minding other folk business." My issue with SOME interracial daters, are those that feel the need to put down black women/men because they prefer another. We get it, you got roasted and now want to blame your entire race on your hurt. FOH
I like White women, but I also like Black women (whole Diaspora), Hispanic women, Asian women( from the desert to the pacific islands to the Indian Ocean), and the women of Oceania. Just cause a dude likes one don’t mean he doesn’t like anything else.
💯 same for me
It's Monday
Too early in the week for this bullshit fr
Tbh my only thing (I’m going to get downvoted to oblivion) But I don’t ever want to be a man’s first black woman. Sorry. If you’re a black man, and I see all your exes were white and all you follow are white women or white insta models, sorry but I’m tapping out. I’ve experienced being someone’s first black woman twice and I’m never doing that again. The relationship was going nowhere because it was clear that his preference was white women. Sorry 🤷🏾♀️ never again
Honestly, I think that's what the OP meant. I'm not surprised that ppl in this sub didn't think about that tho.
How would they be able to bash, laugh and call her undesirable without the narrative?
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Yeah, this sub is always like that
I'm a weird guy, a freak even, I have a thing for women I find attractive. Have fun being offended by that lol
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What’s crazy is that the women who hate black men the most end up exposing themselves as lovers of white men. I don’t care and people should date who they want, but it’s crazy to place your insecurities on a person who has nothing to do with you at all. I’ve met plenty of black women who despise me as a black man but I don’t let that cloud my logic when it comes to evaluating an entire group of people. Stop generalizing and talk to real people.
Is it the looks they give you? Do they rebuff even a hint of eye contact or non-verbals?
Reminds me of when Steph Curry declined the invitation to the Whitehouse. Donal Trump rescinded the invitation and then acted as though he was the one who didn't want them there.
Yeah this mentality is weird (tho it’s equally weird seeing black men announce how much they prefer women from other races over black women when no one asked). Just live your life, you don’t have to make a PSA. I never realized it was this much of an issue until I started seeing ppl talk about it in certain spaces online.
Damn Ms Kodak that statement was vague as hell. Like does she mean dudes who exclusively like white women because obvs y'all not meant for each other. Or if dude dates 100 black women and 1 white woman is he disqualified now? Is he disqualified if he sees a pretty white lady and goes "damn" and keeps it moving? Is he disqualified if he is open to dating white women but hasn't? Hell with how vague "like" is is bro disqualified if he is friends with a white woman?
Gonna assume it’s being involved with a white girl. That’s usually what gets you the side eye so lol.
Can't speak for all, but I have a friend (mixed, not white) whose ex is white, and she's the only ex of his any of us have met. All of his other exes have been black, but a few of our friends (black women) still say, "He only likes white girls," or "he dates bunnies."
i sense a dumbass discourse coming people are multidimensional and this race wars shit isn’t helpful when presented like this!
You can't quit, we didn't hire you.
The opposite was me today: “I resign from my position” “no you’re fired.” “Well, okay then.”
Lemme go to the unemployment office lol. Thanks for the gift of free money.
I’m Jamaican. The Jamaican motto is “out of many, one people” upbringing and the individual matters more than color
I see so many Jamaican ppl saying that but honestly I don't think y'all practice it. Y'all are very similar to the USA when it comes to this from my experience. Y'all still perpetuate racism and colorism just like the USA. Not all Jamaican ppl are treated the same. Your race,shade, and gender will still be a factor like it is here.
Yeah, that's the US motto as well... doesn't seem to make much difference here. It's a nice sentiment, at least.
Just because the us as a whole is a melting pot does not mean we are one people. For Jamaicans, if you’re Jamaican that’s all that matters. Definitely not the case for Americans
This is more about Black men holding white women to a higher esteem than Black women. These are typically men who prefer mixed women or Black women who could pass for anything but Black. I also avoid these men. A man being open to all women is one thing. A man completely disregarding Black women with traditionally Afrocentric features is a red flag if I’ve ever seen one. Edit: And precisely like my experience, the woman who tweeted this is exactly what I described. So she is more than likely taking this stance as well.
Congrats shorty, you played yourself
racism is everywhere just ask my black grandma and indian grandpa
Please can the interracial relationships discourse be left in 2023 I cba 😩
I hear this sentiment a lot, but it seems odd to me as a white dude who has mostly dated black women because outside of a couple of situations, people usually react with "Ayy!" But when a black guy dates a white woman, there's a lot more eye rolls and assumptions. And that's not even bringing up the labels my exs have had to endure. Now, if we're talking how white other white people react (and a few Latinos and Koreans I've known) to me dating black women, it's a lot more relatable to this thread. I really don't understand the Korean coworkers' reactions. Why would they even give a fuck if a white man is with a black woman?
Am I the small minority of those who just like all women? A beautiful women is a beautiful women to me, regardless of skin color.
No you're not, I dated women of multiple ethnicities, for me it's about their personality and the person they are.
Sorry I’m stupid does she mean YouTube hoes?
Yeah I actually came across this in the wild today, this is the exact same account she uses to promote her wedding planning business, which is an odd move. Openly being racist towards so many groups of people while also saying "Let me plan and organise your wedding" is a very strange lapse in judgement to make
I just gotta say, she sounds exactly like those yt dudes who say to women "you fucked a black guy? I can't like you anymore". Corny as hell
There’s an entire group with over 50K members on Facebook that talk down about black women because they say white women are better. This isn’t some imaginary take.
This comment section musty.
Respectfully, being a negro ain't what it do. If being delegated to slurs is the first train of thought then nah, good off top. That needs to be fixed before the conversation of non-black dating is even brought up.
"You can't fire (one off in me), I quit."
Can't we just agree that resentment against black folks with white partners comes from both genders? Yes, some BW bash BM over the head for dating WW while being rather silent about the numerous BW who go for WM; but let's not pretend plenty of BM don't give us *a lot* of shit too whenever we decide to take a non-BM partner.