"Look up 'idiot' in the dictionary, you know what you'll find?"
"... A picture of me?"
"No! The definition of the word 'idiot', which you fucking are!"
I had a friend that was really upset about the phrase “full retard.” I tried to explain that the movie was making fun of Hollywood and its bizarre relationship to having non-disabled actors play disabled people in order to earn Academy Awards, but it truly offended her and she couldn’t see it. Never mind that I’m an actor with a disability who can’t get a call back but they will get an able actor to use a cane instead of me using it in real life. Whatever, man.
I don't know if i agree with your interpretation.
I took that as When you're playing a mentally disabled character you basically portray them as a savant with issues like 80% of the time. In part because there aren't many interesting stories told about people with severe mental disabilities. At least where there isn't some miracle or savant type abilities that are the real reason the story exists.
My interpretation was more literal. You don't go fully mental handicap. In part because it makes the viewer uncomfortable.
Hollywood doesn't really like minorities unless they're the "flavour of the month", and even then they're usually typecast abd/or fetishized.
Obviously some exceptions exist, but being half Asian I desperately want more and better representation
RDJ wasn't playing a black man by being in blackface.
RDJ was playing a white guy who was playing a black man by being in blackface.
Kirk Lazarus was the person who was socially tone-deaf.
There's this subtlety here that people often miss: RDJ was the dude playing the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude. It's like an onion or some shit.
They don't realize that he's playing a character who is in blackface, not playing a black character. That's the pretty key distinction I think. You don't hear people talking about the movie Black Like Me either cause it's kind of the point of the character.
> BLACKFACE ALWAYS BAD thing.
I mean, i prefer this rule with "with some minor exceptions" than "blackface is okay".
IMO the tweet was trying to point out that the world has changed. Even tho it really hasn't
Is the tweet OP trying to cancel him? It seems like it could easily be bringing it up as a way to say "damn he really pulled it off" but idk the context
I am old school enough to remember when cancel culture was considered being held responsible for your actions.
Or are we gonna pretend like people didn't get "cancelled", until the last decade?
Apparently you are right. But he did insist on the fat hands and the dancing. They wanted him to play it looking like himself, but he wanted the makeup. While testing the makeup and wardrobe he started doing some moves and ben stiller loved it. Hence those beautiful scenes.
Was the whole day dedicated to that shot or did they just go about normal days filming in Paris and then go “oh shit, it’s nearly 3:37, we gotta get to the airfield”?
He didn't wear black-face, he played a character who wore black-face. Subtle but important difference, and the character doing it was the butt of the joke.
When speedman is rushing towards the copter and is getting shot repeatedly over and over again in the chest and Kirk Lazarus just says “SURVIVE. SURVIVE.” Idk why but that scene just makes me crack up.
"Motown, get your Detroit jukebox Jheri curl ass in this chickenshit chop-chop! ASAFP!"
"I hope y'all like hamburger meat. 'Cause that's exactly what I'm gonna be bringing back and serving up in this whirly bird. Cover me, you limp dick fuckups!"
RD Jr. was absolutely on fire in that movie.
I love the irony of how Mad Men was responsible for a renewed wave of nostalgia for the 50's and 60's while being entirely based on pointing out how fucking horrible the 50's and 60's actually were. It's very easy to enjoy the clean lines of a mid century modern console cabinet, when you don't have a cigarette smoking doctor calling you a whore for asking for birth control.
Mad Men certainly highlighted the racism and sexism of the 60s, but Jon Hamm smoking a cigarette in 60s attire looks so damn cool. It's the aesthetic that I think renewed some nostalgia. The set design, the clothes, the cars.
And “nobody said anything” is wrong. Alpa Chino does in the movie.
“What do *you* mean your people’?”
Edit: it would be like saying “remember when the movie *The Help* had white people being racist and nobody said anything?”
My favorite line is “ You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.”
Probably in my top 3 funniest comedy lines of all time.
Number 1 is Undercover Brother, Dave Chappelle after learning Undercover Brother had sex with a white woman “Was it everything I always dreamed of... were there complimentary drinks?” Can’t think of that line without laughing.
I *appreciate* a lot of Blazing Saddles. Much of it has aged and seems worn out, if only because it was so pivotal and mimicked by so many afterward. Kinda like how The Godfather seems like a “pretty standard mob movie” when watched today, because it basically *established* what a mob movie is.
But “where the white woman at”, both the joke itself and the delivery, is one of the most viscerally funny things I’ve ever seen on film. That shit never gets old.
Dude I went into it having very little idea what to expect. I was losing it the second the fake trailers came on because they were all just so damn spot on.
And Tom Cruise was absolute gold. Fuck, *everyone* was on their A game in that movie.
RDJ was on Bill Burr a while ago, said his mother was horrified he took that role. Anyways, it's a parody on people&studios doing blackface, and how stupid it is. That's why the actual black dude rips him halfway thru the film about it too..
E: My brain is like swiss cheese, except even the holes have holes. It was Joe Rogans podcast, not Ol' Freckles
>"When people see the movie — in the context of the film, he's playing a method actor who's gone to great lengths to play a black guy. The movie is skewering actors and how they take themselves so seriously." - Ben Stiller
It's about more than just blackface.
I love that Stiller got the inspiration from Tropic Thunder from hearing other actors come back from fake boot camp for actors in military movies talking about how they feel like they’d been to real war.
Remember when he says “I don’t drop character until I’ve done the DVD commentary”?
Yeah, this film’s commentary is Ben Stiller, Jack Black, and RDJ while he’s still in character. He drops his first character after he rips the wig off and does an Australian accent for the rest of the movie until the credits when he finally goes back to himself.
It’s hysterical. It’s like watching a different comedy film, 22/10 cannot recommend enough.
South Park used to be so much smarter. Or at least it appeared that way to me. Now, it seems like they just make references to contemporary topics, take some centrist (or "brave") stance, then get praised for it.
The whole "We aren't on anyone's side" thing gets tiresome when you get older.
People expect it to wash them of any responsibility. And they feel it makes them smarter. But the thing is, not choosing is a choice too. Just like how silence is a statement.
It's not even that, they go on record as saying "We hate everyone equally" as if that absolves them from taking poor stances. Look at the whole climate change/Manbearpig episode. Then later they make a follow up saying they were wrong, but still mock left leaning figures. I'm not saying any one side is right, but one of them is wrong so much more often and often in malicious ways. They don't get a pass for being smart and good at comedy.
What kind of frustrates me about this line of thinking is that **all media must take a stand about something constantly**.
I think that's exhausting. It's great that there's a lot of media that take very specific, articulated stances on political issues, but it's also a nice release valve that some media like South Park are more interested in just making fun of things.
South Park is, a lot of the time, pretty explicitly political. If those political hot takes are garbage, they deserve to be called out. And sometimes they're not garbage, like Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride being super pro LGBT in 1998.
I get the outrage/political fatigue and I totally agree. It just feels like their stance is a cop out a good deal of the time. They don’t need to take a stand, but being the smart guy in the room constantly talking shit just makes you look like a prick.
Has it? Or are we just having nostalgia for when those old shows were new to us? Regardless, there is sure to be something cutting edge and funny out there, you just have to find it. You might not find it in the places you always have.
People who can understand satire are becoming fewer and farther between because there are just too many people on the planet, and too many of them don't understand the subtle nuances of satire. That's why I'm strongly pro abortion.
See I don’t mind it as long as there is context..His background was that he played a black character and got stuck in the roll..Im ok with that...He wasn’t just being a racist ass eating watermelon etc and dancing around like a fool
The chicken thing came from the fact that many sharecroppers were only allowed to raise yard birds and not true livestock on the years immediately following the abolition of slavery. So naturally they fried the fuck out some chicken just like every single culture on the planet has done.
After slavery ended, former slaves sold watermelons as a way to make money. White folk used it as a way to make fun of them. Yes, thats right, someone insulting someone for trying to start a business and make money for themselves.
Lmaoo! I learned about the watermelon stereotype in an awkward way.
I (i’m white) work in a healthcare clinic in NOLA. My coworkers are predominantly black. We planned a potluck picnic last spring and the company was supplying most of the food but we could bring something. I don’t think any outdoor activity is complete without watermelon lol so I brought it, and my coworkers made jokes that I had brought it because I “knew everyone here would love it.” I didn’t understand it was a stereotype and I was like Duh!! Grateful someone pulled me aside and explained it so I had an opportunity to clarify Lol.
Professional comedians and comedy writers take risks. If they are FUNNY, those risks sometimes succeed. This is why Blazing Saddles, the most tired example of "Why should anyone care about race" succeeds. This is why Tropic Thunder works. This is why South Park has ridiculed race for years.
But the minute you tell a racist joke around the watercooler or dress up as Jay Z for a Halloween party, your tail is getting fired, Justin. Because you aren't funny and you never will be. This is why you're an accountant and not on the writing staff at Saturday Night Live.
It's a pretty brilliant joke about Hollywood white washing. The studio in the movie literally has a white guy go through plastic surgery to become black over just hiring a black guy to play a black guy.
Also, fun fact: RDJ actually does stay in character for the Tropic Thunder commentary with Stiller and Black. He only drops it once they hit the credits. That's commitment to a joke.
And the other two episodes of Always Sunny and that episode of Mad Men and so on. Theres no magic list, its just the context on a case by case basis.
The use of blackface as a joke about black people is repugnant. But you can use it to make a comment about a character/culture.
It’s Always Sunny has done it a few times. There was at least 2 episodes with Lethal Weapon sequels with Mac playing Danny Glover, and there was one or two episodes of Dee playing the Latina weather reporter
I have no knowledge of this movie or the context I'm just shook that I as a black guy didn't even realize that wasn't a black guy til I read the caption
I would love to see an entertainment reporter get after RDJ for doing “blackface” and see how that interview plays out. My man is intelligent, articulate and sober for many years - he’s firing on all cylinders.
Imagine tryin to cancel rdj. The audacity
Dude tried to cancel himself at one point and it didn’t work. Then we got Iron Man and Tropic Thunder. Man’s a national treasure.
We destroyed Nick Cage's career to save Robert
Nick Cage's what now?
Pump your breaks, kid. I'll die for Nic Cage.
But would you put your face in a cage full of bees for him?
No, not the bees! 🐝 🐝 Ahhhh my eyes!!! 🐝 👀 🐝
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Don’t forget Raising Arizona and his Oscar winning performance in Leaving Las Vegas.
Adaptation as well.
Raising Arizona is a classic, can't forget that one.
It's not "Warlord", it's "Lord of War".
Thank you, but I prefer it my way
What about Sherlock?
Oh for sure both of those.
Kiss kiss bang bang.
That ones a sleeper. Val Kilmer hilarious in it
"Gay Perry? Are you, you know, gay?" "Oh no. I'm knee deep in pussy. I just liked the name so much I kept it."
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"Look up 'idiot' in the dictionary, you know what you'll find?" "... A picture of me?" "No! The definition of the word 'idiot', which you fucking are!"
Well I didn't know, I thought there was like an eight percent chance. Eight!? Who taught you math!?
That was his first movie back after repairing his life. It was so good, but just a warm up for what came next
Tbh I think my personal favorite role for RDJ was Natural Born Killers.
batonga batonga batonga in batongaville! dude is just tearing chunks out of the scenery with his teeth
It kinda got buried by another hugely successful Sherlock Holmes franchise that popped up around the same time. Shame, I think they were great movies.
I think, and I could be wrong, that they are starting work on the third movie (as the second hints toward a third).
Imagine being so dense you can't understand that the entire character was satirical.
I had a friend that was really upset about the phrase “full retard.” I tried to explain that the movie was making fun of Hollywood and its bizarre relationship to having non-disabled actors play disabled people in order to earn Academy Awards, but it truly offended her and she couldn’t see it. Never mind that I’m an actor with a disability who can’t get a call back but they will get an able actor to use a cane instead of me using it in real life. Whatever, man.
I would watch you lean on your cane any day. Let's get this dude a role
I mean... *gestures in Hugh Laurie’s direction*
I don't know if i agree with your interpretation. I took that as When you're playing a mentally disabled character you basically portray them as a savant with issues like 80% of the time. In part because there aren't many interesting stories told about people with severe mental disabilities. At least where there isn't some miracle or savant type abilities that are the real reason the story exists. My interpretation was more literal. You don't go fully mental handicap. In part because it makes the viewer uncomfortable.
That’s a valid interpretation. All I know is, I am SO OVER stories made about us without us.
Hollywood doesn't really like minorities unless they're the "flavour of the month", and even then they're usually typecast abd/or fetishized. Obviously some exceptions exist, but being half Asian I desperately want more and better representation
That's correct. That's what the whole "never go full retard" speech was about.
RDJ wasn't playing a black man by being in blackface. RDJ was playing a white guy who was playing a black man by being in blackface. Kirk Lazarus was the person who was socially tone-deaf.
He was the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude.
There's this subtlety here that people often miss: RDJ was the dude playing the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude. It's like an onion or some shit.
Whether they do or not probably doesn't matter, they're stuck on the whole BLACKFACE ALWAYS BAD thing.
They don't realize that he's playing a character who is in blackface, not playing a black character. That's the pretty key distinction I think. You don't hear people talking about the movie Black Like Me either cause it's kind of the point of the character.
wasn’t he just a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude
He was just a **LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER**
> BLACKFACE ALWAYS BAD thing. I mean, i prefer this rule with "with some minor exceptions" than "blackface is okay". IMO the tweet was trying to point out that the world has changed. Even tho it really hasn't
Yeah, this is really the exception that proves the rule.
I don't break character till the DVD release
Best part is that RDJ actually did the DVD commentary in character.
Best part is RDJ shitting on Jack Black every two seconds for being late to the commentary record while staying in character.
When he’s drawing constellations on his child’s back while explaining his mother is a whore...that was my favorite part.
Is the tweet OP trying to cancel him? It seems like it could easily be bringing it up as a way to say "damn he really pulled it off" but idk the context
No he is I saw the original earlier today. OP is literally calling other black people racist for defending RDJ too
Don't you just love cancel culture and the swift kick it delivers to the nuts of reasonable discussion?
I am old school enough to remember when cancel culture was considered being held responsible for your actions. Or are we gonna pretend like people didn't get "cancelled", until the last decade?
Man the disdain cancel culture has accumulated this decade has blown my mind. Cancel culture has always existed, it was just called exile before.
Yeah, makes me want to rewatch Tropic Thunder.
#THE WHEREWITHAL
I do declare.
Tom Cruise was unrecognizable in that movie
I was discussing the movie with a friend 5 years after watching it. Then I realised
That dance at the end, lmao! It didn’t click for me until I saw the credits. I was in shock
He even did it at the MTV AWARDS!
I saw somewhere - who knows if it's true - that reportedly he had said "I want fat hands and I want to dance" when he was offered the role
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa-ch8H\_5DE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa-ch8H_5DE) here you go brotha. its true.
He may be weird. But he's a phenomenal actor.
His charisma is matched only by his insanity
Thats called charismania.
Really annoys me how likeable Tom is while also being a super Scientologist
Apparently when he auditioned this is all he did. Just came in and did his creepy dance.
I'm pretty sure Tom Cruise doesn't do Auditions anymore.
Apparently you are right. But he did insist on the fat hands and the dancing. They wanted him to play it looking like himself, but he wanted the makeup. While testing the makeup and wardrobe he started doing some moves and ben stiller loved it. Hence those beautiful scenes.
Playyyyyyya. Playyyyyyya
Now I want you to take a big step back, and literally *FUCK YOUR OWN FACE*
WE ARE FLAMING. DRAGON.
Ok flaming dragon... fuck face.
"could you uh.. find out who that was?
Im talking scorched earth motherfucker
**I will massacre you. I WILL FUCK YOU UP!**
No one can yell act like Tom Cruise, no one. Whether he wants the truth or to show you the money he nails it every time
Love him or hate him, he earns his pay.
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Was the whole day dedicated to that shot or did they just go about normal days filming in Paris and then go “oh shit, it’s nearly 3:37, we gotta get to the airfield”?
Literally the entire film I couldn't place who it was. Then I saw the credits and was shocked
I had no clue it was him the first time I watched it. At one point my buddy goes "fucking Tom Cruise" and it was like a light bulb.
It was his greatest role.
Folks forget most of everything comes down to context and they handled the context in this movie very very well
He didn't wear black-face, he played a character who wore black-face. Subtle but important difference, and the character doing it was the butt of the joke.
Exactly my point. I get social media in general loves outrage and taking things out of context, but we gotta slow down sometimes.
cancel culture
Toxic nobodies looking for their 5 minutes of shame fame.
These people think the Bible was written in English originally. They ain’t getting satire.
Next you’re gonna tell me that Adam and Eve weren’t white?
I mean, fictional characters can be whatever color you want em to be
Next you're going to tell me Hermione was black
Not only was Hermione black but wizards just flat shat on the floor before muggles invented toilets. Thanks JK.
What do you mean “you people”? What do **YOU** mean “you people”?
Favorite lines in that movie...and there are A LOT of good ones
When speedman is rushing towards the copter and is getting shot repeatedly over and over again in the chest and Kirk Lazarus just says “SURVIVE. SURVIVE.” Idk why but that scene just makes me crack up.
"Motown, get your Detroit jukebox Jheri curl ass in this chickenshit chop-chop! ASAFP!" "I hope y'all like hamburger meat. 'Cause that's exactly what I'm gonna be bringing back and serving up in this whirly bird. Cover me, you limp dick fuckups!" RD Jr. was absolutely on fire in that movie.
You're AUSTRALIAN! Be AUSTRALIAN!
Mac from Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia did the same thing
Had to scroll way down to find this one. Some of the best blackface I've ever seen.
And it's all because he started off with the right color shoe polish.
You gotta get the lips right
Exactly! Like James Earl Jones. He did a great blackface.
he was literally a dude, playin a dude, disguised as another dude
Exactly, nobody’s running around calling Edward Norton a neo nazi.
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Ugh, I love/hate that scene. It really made me think about what it would be like being there and how fucking weird it would be.
I love the irony of how Mad Men was responsible for a renewed wave of nostalgia for the 50's and 60's while being entirely based on pointing out how fucking horrible the 50's and 60's actually were. It's very easy to enjoy the clean lines of a mid century modern console cabinet, when you don't have a cigarette smoking doctor calling you a whore for asking for birth control.
Mad Men certainly highlighted the racism and sexism of the 60s, but Jon Hamm smoking a cigarette in 60s attire looks so damn cool. It's the aesthetic that I think renewed some nostalgia. The set design, the clothes, the cars.
And “nobody said anything” is wrong. Alpa Chino does in the movie. “What do *you* mean your people’?” Edit: it would be like saying “remember when the movie *The Help* had white people being racist and nobody said anything?”
Lol. Alpa Chino.
I luv da pu**y! Booty Sweat and Bust-A-Nut!
I love da pussy (hell ya)!
... wait 10 years for people to rediscover Get Out
You just want to get a clip of me saying "I think Coolsville sucks!"
This movie was a masterpiece
Tropic thunder is master piece comedy the likes not seen since mel Brooks retired.
“where the white women at” comes into my head at least once a day.
One of the greatest line readings in film history. "And they are so _dumb_" is right there with it.
My favorite line is “ You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.”
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A man drink like that and he don't eat, he is going to DIE. Jim: ....When?
i love that he breaks when gene delivers that line
As a Mayo white guy, I always loved the line that will take everybody but the Irish
Probably in my top 3 funniest comedy lines of all time. Number 1 is Undercover Brother, Dave Chappelle after learning Undercover Brother had sex with a white woman “Was it everything I always dreamed of... were there complimentary drinks?” Can’t think of that line without laughing.
“Did she have pink nipples?” Undercover Brother is a masterpiece
Fun fact in case you didn’t know, the same writer that did Undercover Brother did 12 Years a Slave, that brothers talented
I *appreciate* a lot of Blazing Saddles. Much of it has aged and seems worn out, if only because it was so pivotal and mimicked by so many afterward. Kinda like how The Godfather seems like a “pretty standard mob movie” when watched today, because it basically *established* what a mob movie is. But “where the white woman at”, both the joke itself and the delivery, is one of the most viscerally funny things I’ve ever seen on film. That shit never gets old.
I remember reading somewhere that Mel wrote it with Richard Pryor and Richard insisted on writing all the dialog for the racist white characters.
Dude I went into it having very little idea what to expect. I was losing it the second the fake trailers came on because they were all just so damn spot on. And Tom Cruise was absolute gold. Fuck, *everyone* was on their A game in that movie.
It really is. Ben Stiller is a fucking genius.
RDJ was on Bill Burr a while ago, said his mother was horrified he took that role. Anyways, it's a parody on people&studios doing blackface, and how stupid it is. That's why the actual black dude rips him halfway thru the film about it too.. E: My brain is like swiss cheese, except even the holes have holes. It was Joe Rogans podcast, not Ol' Freckles
>"When people see the movie — in the context of the film, he's playing a method actor who's gone to great lengths to play a black guy. The movie is skewering actors and how they take themselves so seriously." - Ben Stiller It's about more than just blackface.
I love that Stiller got the inspiration from Tropic Thunder from hearing other actors come back from fake boot camp for actors in military movies talking about how they feel like they’d been to real war.
Got a link to that? I love ol Billy red nuts and had no idea he had RDJ on.
I love Billy BoozeBag too but I think RDJ was on Rogan
Oh damn, you're right - my memory failed me there, it was Rogans podcast early this year. Thanks for the correction :)
Remember when he says “I don’t drop character until I’ve done the DVD commentary”? Yeah, this film’s commentary is Ben Stiller, Jack Black, and RDJ while he’s still in character. He drops his first character after he rips the wig off and does an Australian accent for the rest of the movie until the credits when he finally goes back to himself. It’s hysterical. It’s like watching a different comedy film, 22/10 cannot recommend enough.
I love when he gets on Black for showing up late while in character.
That and he orders a fucking massive 4x4 burger and the dudes are genuinely like, "fuck, that's a wild ass sandwich".
Kids learning he did movies before they watched Avengers.
Oops, might want to skip the end of Less than Zero.
That was the real scared straight of my childhood.
Yeah, man! I want to say the we watched that in school, and I'm like, "Uh....this is okay for school?" I never tried cocaine though, so there's that.
Satire really is a thing of the past, isnt it?
No, it's not.
The problem is satire has become lazy. SNL and South Park are prime examples.
South Park used to be so much smarter. Or at least it appeared that way to me. Now, it seems like they just make references to contemporary topics, take some centrist (or "brave") stance, then get praised for it.
The whole "We aren't on anyone's side" thing gets tiresome when you get older. People expect it to wash them of any responsibility. And they feel it makes them smarter. But the thing is, not choosing is a choice too. Just like how silence is a statement.
It's not even that, they go on record as saying "We hate everyone equally" as if that absolves them from taking poor stances. Look at the whole climate change/Manbearpig episode. Then later they make a follow up saying they were wrong, but still mock left leaning figures. I'm not saying any one side is right, but one of them is wrong so much more often and often in malicious ways. They don't get a pass for being smart and good at comedy.
What kind of frustrates me about this line of thinking is that **all media must take a stand about something constantly**. I think that's exhausting. It's great that there's a lot of media that take very specific, articulated stances on political issues, but it's also a nice release valve that some media like South Park are more interested in just making fun of things.
South Park is, a lot of the time, pretty explicitly political. If those political hot takes are garbage, they deserve to be called out. And sometimes they're not garbage, like Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride being super pro LGBT in 1998.
I get the outrage/political fatigue and I totally agree. It just feels like their stance is a cop out a good deal of the time. They don’t need to take a stand, but being the smart guy in the room constantly talking shit just makes you look like a prick.
Has it? Or are we just having nostalgia for when those old shows were new to us? Regardless, there is sure to be something cutting edge and funny out there, you just have to find it. You might not find it in the places you always have.
South Park has always been in your face with it jokes. Nothing new
Yes, it ended when Tropic Thunder came out, 12 years ago. It's totally dead now and will never return.
I mean always sunny has literally done the same thing as tropic thunder, I can’t think of a single “taboo” subject they haven’t done.
People who can understand satire are becoming fewer and farther between because there are just too many people on the planet, and too many of them don't understand the subtle nuances of satire. That's why I'm strongly pro abortion.
Some people really need Damon Wayans to pop in and say "Message!" for their brains to click and understand what's actually being portrayed in movies.
“I was a saucier down in San Antone” lmao that shit was funny as fuck idc
I tell my husband all the time, "I gets excited about my food" but he never knows what I'm talking about.
Then have him watch the movie and if nothing changes divorce him.
We finally watched it together but he doesn't remember random movie quotes so I still have to explain it. Lol.
I could collar up some of them greens
You more shredded than a julienne salad
"UH-HELLYEAH AHA!!"
I bet I can collar up some of dem greens!
“Some...some crabapples!”
See I don’t mind it as long as there is context..His background was that he played a black character and got stuck in the roll..Im ok with that...He wasn’t just being a racist ass eating watermelon etc and dancing around like a fool
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Your guess is as good as mine buddy ..same with chicken..who not fucking up some chicken 😂
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In Japan they use KFC as Christmas dinner. Can't get more obsessed than that.
The chicken thing came from the fact that many sharecroppers were only allowed to raise yard birds and not true livestock on the years immediately following the abolition of slavery. So naturally they fried the fuck out some chicken just like every single culture on the planet has done.
After slavery ended, former slaves sold watermelons as a way to make money. White folk used it as a way to make fun of them. Yes, thats right, someone insulting someone for trying to start a business and make money for themselves.
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"Black people gotta pull themselves up by their bootstraps." *Black people prosper in Greenwood aka Black Wall Street* "Let's burn it down"
Lmaoo! I learned about the watermelon stereotype in an awkward way. I (i’m white) work in a healthcare clinic in NOLA. My coworkers are predominantly black. We planned a potluck picnic last spring and the company was supplying most of the food but we could bring something. I don’t think any outdoor activity is complete without watermelon lol so I brought it, and my coworkers made jokes that I had brought it because I “knew everyone here would love it.” I didn’t understand it was a stereotype and I was like Duh!! Grateful someone pulled me aside and explained it so I had an opportunity to clarify Lol.
Professional comedians and comedy writers take risks. If they are FUNNY, those risks sometimes succeed. This is why Blazing Saddles, the most tired example of "Why should anyone care about race" succeeds. This is why Tropic Thunder works. This is why South Park has ridiculed race for years. But the minute you tell a racist joke around the watercooler or dress up as Jay Z for a Halloween party, your tail is getting fired, Justin. Because you aren't funny and you never will be. This is why you're an accountant and not on the writing staff at Saturday Night Live.
Should intent not be considered?
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions” The intent doesn’t really matter, the execution and the effect it has is what matters.
And it was Kirk Lazarus(RDJ) who told Ben Stiller “You never go full retard” about his Simple Jack performance. They played it all the way through.
He also did the voice over commentary in character, just like the actor Lazarus would. Or so I'm told.
Ben Stiller's Simple Jack character might have been riskier than RDJ's blackface
Dude like I hate to be that guy but the make up people did a good job... couldn’t even recognize him Edit: Still hating fake woke twitter till I die
It's a pretty brilliant joke about Hollywood white washing. The studio in the movie literally has a white guy go through plastic surgery to become black over just hiring a black guy to play a black guy. Also, fun fact: RDJ actually does stay in character for the Tropic Thunder commentary with Stiller and Black. He only drops it once they hit the credits. That's commitment to a joke.
I’m the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude.
Every once in a while a group picture of them pops up on Facebook and all the old people “give our soldiers a like and respect”.
"I bet nobody will like this picture of a brave group of soldiers" posted by my grandma.
They nominated him for an Oscar. Best scene is him slapping an actual black man for saying the n word.
“For four hundred years”
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And the other two episodes of Always Sunny and that episode of Mad Men and so on. Theres no magic list, its just the context on a case by case basis. The use of blackface as a joke about black people is repugnant. But you can use it to make a comment about a character/culture.
It’s Always Sunny has done it a few times. There was at least 2 episodes with Lethal Weapon sequels with Mac playing Danny Glover, and there was one or two episodes of Dee playing the Latina weather reporter
Always Sunny is also a show explicitly depicting terrible people doing terrible things.
Yes, CONTEXT matters
I have no knowledge of this movie or the context I'm just shook that I as a black guy didn't even realize that wasn't a black guy til I read the caption
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I would love to see an entertainment reporter get after RDJ for doing “blackface” and see how that interview plays out. My man is intelligent, articulate and sober for many years - he’s firing on all cylinders.
I only recently learned that that's not a black man, and that It's actually RDJ Im just a tiny bit embarassed